Kia EV6 | Ride & Drive - Driving Assist Features

[@michaelgoetz7506]

Background: I've owned this car for a bit over two months. With regards to the self parking, the biggest problem with this car is that the owner's manual does a poor job of explaining the details of how these systems work. Lots of owners, collaborating online, have pieced together how it all works. To address some of the not-so-helpful content about the parking systems in this video: (Few reviewers take the time to learn how it works, and it's not their fault.) 1) The reason the car stopped backing up into the parking space around the 6 minute mark is that if you're doing this from outside the car, you have to stay close to the car. Once it got a certain distance from the key fob, the car stopped. 2) It does NOT read the lane lines It will only pull straight backwards or straight forwards using the two buttons on the key fob. 3) It DOES have the ability to autonomously park in a straight-in spot like that, but only when there's solid objects like cars next to the space. It can't read the paint lines to tell where the spot is. Also, this is initiated by pushing and holding the parking camera button from inside the car. It's not very good at this party trick, however. You're better off parking it yourself unless the spot is too tight to let you exit the car. 4) It can autonomously pull into or out of a parallel parking spot, also by pushing and holding the parking camera button. It does this well. Better than I can, honestly. The second part of the video describing the HDA2 (Highway Driving Assist 2) and LKA (Lane Keeping Assist) features was dead on. The car does a good job of following lanes on the highway, and following the car in front of you. It's very, very good (but not perfect) at avoiding cars impinging on your lane. It will, for example, squeeze over to one side if a car is getting to close on the other side. It can autonomously take evasive steering action, as well as autonomous emergency braking. There's no phantom braking problem like there is on some other cars. It does a really good job of warning you about safety problems, such as when you're drifting over a line, or if you put on a turn signal and there's a car in your blindspot. The radar tracking line on the HUD shows you which car the cruise control is following. It really inspires confidence when you see it switch to the car that just cut in front of you -- as well as the deceleration to avoid said car. Most owners don't see the point of the automatic lane changing. Yes, it works. But it's easier (and faster) to turn the wheel than to wait for the car to change lanes for you. The other parts of HDA2 are really helpful, however, and make long trips much easier. The blindspot cameras that get displayed on the instrument cluister are activated by the turn signals. The cameras give you a really good wide angle view of the lane next to you. Perhaps this will encourage people to use turn signals more often??? It reads speed limit signs and displays the speed limit in the instrument cluster and on the HUD. It can, if you wish, change speeds automatically when the speed limit changes. I'm not fond of this feature. It's not so great being the only car that slows down. Under the right conditions, on cruise control, it will slow down to take steep turns.

[@Wasabi9111]

I have the Ioniq 5 version and love HDA. It makes driving long distance so much easier and it’s the best system of all the cars we have within our extended family. It’s smooth and easy to use/understand. My husband has a polestar 2 and that’s the worst system ever. It’s improved a lot w ota updates, but it still sux!

[@ruftime]

Thanks Michael! These are important details/features and actual capabilities, that are often overlooked. ADAS term is extremely general.

[@MTNRanger]

Thanks for the views and experience of an owner!

[@txdevops]

Two thumbs up! Thanks!

[@fcv1967]

Sounds like finally a car that is better or equal to Tesla ap

[@stephengneri2136]

I really appreciate posts that are filmed like this so we can see how the controls actually work. Great.

[@ianburton5624]

I think you have to be within a certain distance of the car when doing remote parking. The first time it stopped it resumed when you stepped closer.

[@MrSnicol]

Surely he must know this??

[@giovannifacci]

i believe it's not very manly reading the user manual. Section 6 Page 170 " Remote Operation function will operate only when the smart key is within 13 ft. (4 m) from the vehicle."

[@Emm2004]

@@MrSnicol mistakes happen

[@41istair]

Maximum 6 meters in UK Law since 2018, probably similar in EU and elsewhere for world homologation: Amendment of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 2.-(1) The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986(3) are amended as follows. (2) In regulation 110 (mobile telephones) after paragraph (5) insert- “(5A) A person does not contravene a provision of this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention- (a )that person is using the mobile telephone or other device only to perform a remote controlled parking function of the motor vehicle; and (b) that mobile telephone or other device only enables the motor vehicle to move where the following conditions are satisfied- (i) there is continuous activation of the remote control application of the telephone or device by the driver; (ii) the signal between the motor vehicle and the telephone or the motor vehicle and the device, as appropriate, is maintained; and (iii) the distance between the motor vehicle and the telephone or the motor vehicle and the device, as appropriate, is not more than 6 metres.”.

[@YTYTYTY7]

Yeah you need to be closer to the car.

[@lvjb]

Really enjoyed this overview and Chris's presentation. I'd love to see similar videos for each car you get in the shop.

[@madikuss6995]

Great review from Chris. Yes, please have Chris make a similar review of each cars autonomous system. It’s so difficult to determine real life function of these systems vs. what the manufacturer says they will do. Beautiful car, now a more realistic view of what it actually delivers.

[@normangebhardt2092]

Thanks Chris for your review of the EV6 self driving features. Really liked the heads up display while driving.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

great to see your critique of the ADAS in KIA EV6 in comparison to other vehicles you have driven, really great info!

[@MunroLive]

Glad you liked it!

[@shankhadeepshome3982]

About the Tesla lane change being abrupt, is more about committing than anything else. It used to be more gentle but would often fail in complex scenarios so as it got better Tesla focused on fast execution over comfort.

[@shankhadeepshome3982]

If you want feel old lane change, use Navigate on AP, self initialed lane changes, it's pretty slow compared to user initiated. For even more crazy lane changes, try FSD beta, it's wild 😜

[@gelisob]

6:00 range from the remote. Not ment to be done from a far. Walk along with it.

[@calholli]

I do like the styling.. Between this and the Mazda's--- they have really stepped up the styling game and are making nice looking cars these days.

[@Lucaat]

I think you have to stand closer to the car for that remote reversing to work.

[@levysrugo6861]

Great overview. Thanks Chris!

[@John-sh7rh]

I like the side camera view pop-up on the instrument panel in front of you when indicate to change lanes. If you can't get rid of mirrors then this is good.

[@ewkplymi]

The Adaptive Cruise Control also stays on when driving in city traffic. It requires no accelerator or braking by the driver and simply follows the stop and go of the car in front of you. If you come to a complete stop, you have to use the accelerator pedal or click the cruise control (+) button on the steering wheel to start up again but the Adaptive Cruise Control stays turned on. It is one of the best features on the car. I have a 2022 Ioniq 5 but I would assume that the EV6 operates in the same manner.

[@markplott4820]

good luck with that when it strikes a pedestrian.

[@michaelgoetz7506]

@@markplott4820 It's actually very good at avoiding pedestrians, both in front of and behind the core. It works exceptionally well. It's more attentive than most drivers. It tracks motorcycles too. I haven't had first hand experience with bicycles, but since it detects pedestrians and motorcycles, it probably can see those as well. It will hit the brakes, hard, when a person steps into the path of the car.

[@stephenj4937]

@@michaelgoetz7506 Most new Hyundai/Kia models also offer a feature where they prevent you from opening the rear doors if a vehicle or bicycle is approaching.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Love watching the car bouncing/thumping up and down on the freeway. Fond memories of Massive Michigan vehicle-swallowing potholes.

[@commanderroddi7742]

I"ve seen car pull into parking lot from a 90 degree angle, its a bit slow but there is a process for it. you drive by the spot, pick the spot, and then hold teh button. the forward/backward button will just do straight to pull in or out, but the car can stree into either a parking spot ina parking lot or paralel park.

[@theredmonkey]

Always informative, great video.

[@MunroLive]

Thanks Jared

[@Nick-uw4tx]

Yes. More on-road tests like this please.

[@dougk5456]

Great job of reviewing the controls. Something I can see that is needed is a standard for display icons and placement. When you go from vehicle to vehicle one should not have to hunt for where the indicators are or what they mean. For older people, like me, one can get confused and possibly make a wrong move thinking that an indicator is showing one thing when it is not truly relevant.

[@ContraVsGigi]

I think the icons are standard. At leat I can recognize some of those without ever being in a Kia/Hyundai. Don't know about Tesla.

[@ryanehoward]

These videos are really informative. One thing that would be nice, I realize that you guys JUST tried out the EQS. However, the EV6 doesn't complete in the same class. It would be much more informative if you could compare this other vehicles in the class like the ID.4 or the Mach-E.

[@davidhes]

It stopped reversing because of the range. You need to basically walk the car into the spot. Seems to only allow for a range of a few feet at most from the car when using the remote outside. I guess it must be some kind of safety feature.

[@disturbed4733]

Wish you would have shown what happens to lane centering when the right lane marking disappears for a while, such as when another road is merging onto the highway. My Subaru simply beeps and disables until the right lane marking reappears. My Tesla Autopilot would re-center to the right using two lanes and blocking the merging traffic, which triggered a lot of horn honking from the merging traffic, which hated and was one of the 3-4 reasons I sold it.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Tesla did fix that eventually.

[@MTNRanger]

@@TheEvilmooseofdoom My Model 3's AP still does the center on unmarked exit lanes. AP hasn't changed very much in the four years I've owned it.

[@disturbed4733]

@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Glad to hear they fixed it. Where I live, that could cause a road rage shooting if you are in the wrong part of town.

[@fcv1967]

@@disturbed4733 Which is why the Cybertruck with bulletproof panels and glass needs to happen sooner than later.

[@zoner__]

Great presentation skills.

[@anniethuyvu5552]

Hi, Does anyone know how to on Driving assist? When I drive, car icon didn’t show moving and didn’t show cars surround mine. Thank you

[@Joe-ud2hb]

Hi Chris, thanks for a great video. The car comes across as being a bit noisy on the road, what's your thoughts, how does it compare to the Eniro or Ioniq 5. I appreciate it's hard to recall as it's a been a while now. Keep it going.

[@famip3679]

I enjoy this style of video and I saw one on the road yesterday looked beast from behind thought it was a space ship

[@robertt1336]

Nice job. Would be nice to see how it does with merging traffic lanes

[@donpeyre-ferry214]

A bit more prep is in order when reviewing today's vehicles. Spent a bunch of time in this video trying to make features work the way a Tesla does! Read the User Manual.

[@ericgregori]

Are people still getting stranded due to the 12-volt battery issue? I really like the Ioniq 5, and was all set to get a green one, when I learned about the 12v issue.

[@chrisbell5248]

Really annoys me when "reviewers" who do not fully understand how the features work start to do videos about them, you can't let the car get too far away from you (the remote) when remote parking, just because you have a Tesla doesn't mean every other electric car is going to work the same (thank god)

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

They shouldn't be doing 'reviews' at all.

[@michaelgoetz7506]

In his defense, it worked for him when he tested it, and he didn't understand the difference between the dry run and the filming. The owner's manual is terrible, and you can't always find the relevant information -- assuming it's even in there.

[@paulhetherington969]

Yes, a partially useful video, but he shouldn’t call himself an ‘expert’ if he doesn’t know how things work.

[@b4804514]

Not sure why you are standing in the rain without rain protection. Why show is the system not working? Edit that out or tell us why is did not work. I think the value of these videos is frame of reference. Tell us what you are looking for and what you are comparing it against and what you think the best systems should do.

[@fcv1967]

You sound like a douche.

[@realscorpius]

Thank for vidéo after watching this I have more love for my Tesla thx again!

[@billnipp2309]

The car is red, why does the 360 camera show it as white? Ty.

[@M-Y-G-A]

How much does this speditivem car with all the shown equipment costs right now?

[@jimave]

Did you experience any phantom breaking? My M3 does this a lot.

[@paullester2535]

phantom parking

[@michaelgoetz7506]

No phantom braking yet, unless you count braking when parking if it thinks you're too close to something. On the road, none so far in my car, or for anyone else online that I'm aware of.

[@markplott4820]

Update software.

[@SilentServiceCode]

welcome back to........uh..... oh yeah. Munro live.

[@AidPast]

Please compare HDA 2 against Openpilot, Autopilot and Super Cruise. Thanks!

[@Poitda31]

That reversing feature is a great way to flatten your remote battery

[@richardkule9384]

What is the extension at the rear of the roof over the rear window for? Sunshade?

[@michaelgoetz7506]

Aerodynamics and styling.

[@cawfeedawg]

Is there lumbar support?

[@michaelgoetz7506]

Yes, at least in some trim levels.

[@Dochart268]

Hello new owner here of an EV6 GT line. did you get an official comment from Kia on why it wouldn't park itself?

[@arturw6059]

Maybe you can try to test OpenPilot for semi-autonomic drive? can be very interesting

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

I guess the Self Parking assist needs work.i wonder if an OTA is in order?

[@paullester2535]

Not great parking at the end! 3/4 of the wheels in the parking space - human or machine?

[@MunroLive]

Blame the machine...

[@paullester2535]

@@MunroLive is the human blaming the machine??

[@normal-cee869]

"Kia, park the car"....."I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that"

[@dennisfahey2379]

I'd imagine the aggressiveness of the lane changing is algorithmic and culturally biased. Some cultures being more aggressive drivers than others. The KIA seems to take the perspective of comfortable touring and good driver etiquette. It signals for a few seconds to inform the surrounding vehicles, then if the coast is clear does the lane change over a longer distance. This is a smooth, leisurely transition that is good for passenger comfort and the other drivers on the road.

[@bilgyno1]

Well... Use it for some time and your opinion may change. The lane change is extremely cautious and fails for very annoying reasons. Give a little bit of steering input (which happens easily when reaching for the indicator stalk) and it won't work. Hold the steer too loosely, and it won't work. If there's a car coming from behind in the lane you're moving into: it won't work, even if the car is 100s meters away and there's plenty of space/time to accelerate. Here, the slowness of the system doesn't help, because it often happens a lane change is aborted half way for oncoming traffic. A human driver would just accelerate a bit and complete the lane change. Finally, lots of road segments and lines are not supported. When it does work (very quiet roads, good line visibility) it is nice and relaxing. But way too many situations where it doesn't work. Hoping for updates for my Ioniq 5 here...

[@lakefiftyseven]

​@@bilgyno1 It won't be very long and freeways, at least in certain spots, will completely control all cars and trucks and do it in a way that people will be happy...........Perhaps they will leave the slow lane for a few drivers to self drive the car........lol

[@bbalintka]

When is the next R1T video dropping? I cannot wait to learn more about it.

[@MunroLive]

Friday

[@DScottMoore]

A ‘68 Impala with the 327 is looking pretty good right now. I wonder, is it possible for an automaker to build a classy, solid automobile without all the bells and whistles? Uncle probably makes it impossible.

[@manuelteixeira2311]

It would be great a review of the new BMW i4 features.

[@klaus8458]

agree

[@SundayShi]

A lot of assuming without trying to read the manual :D

[@seb.]

It seems to be a signature of some people on this channel.🤣 The rental car experience they say.

[@SundayShi]

@@seb. 😂 average consumers can do a better job reviewing, cuz they care.

[@truenexus1usa]

Good work Chris. Maybe Kia needs to or has an ADAS software update for this car.

[@chrissavage5966]

I think this car would be a huge success if only they could reduce the EV-added tax :( The warranty is excellent, servicing costs what it should unlike some other brands (I mean you, German manufacturers). I'd have one for sure - I'll be looking at the Korean offerings when I replace my current MB hybrid, although it'll be hard to not buy a Tesla. By the way, @2:19, the panel Chris taps is the charge port door.

[@kayEnt3rtainm3nt]

Where are you from that you get taxed on driving an EV? In the USA you get a federal tax CREDIT of $7500.00 for buying one of these.

[@badATchaos]

I like this character

[@MrFoxRobert]

Thank you!

[@MunroLive]

You're welcome!

[@guillaumevincent716]

this car is beautifull

[@richardsobetski8879]

If you get a chance would you do a review of the soul mechanic car.

[@jetking3079]

Would like to see the Cadillac Lyriq on your channel.

[@MunroLive]

Hopefully this summer!

[@Kimbrough87]

I know I'm not the only one who thought it was funny how he said Monroe live in the beginning 🤣

[@stewartstarling2309]

Omg get closer to the vehicle when using the smart park function and it won’t embarrass you!!!

[@TheAegisClaw]

I've been told there's 3 front radar units, behind each of the flat black areas.

[@pawelmagnowski2014]

13:24 53% battery 119m range -> real 100% range is 225m (360km) at 72mph (115km/h). Advertised 10-80% fast charge adds 157m or 252km range in 18minutes which you need to do every 2h.

[@jimwilt4944]

Like all EVs, this is temperature and speed dependent. Mine gets between 250-270 depending on how aggressive I am. On long trips I can go about 3.5 hours, though the choice of when to stop will be dictated by where the DC chargers are. It will be rare to experience an 18-minute 20-80% charge. Many of the DC chargers will not give you the full beans, even when advertised as 350kw. I’d count more on 25-30 minutes unless you find a good spot that doesn’t throttle output.

[@Chris28mmz]

Laughed when Chris said "...classic electric vehicle feel..."

[@thinkabout602]

Excellent explanation - I'll wait till they get the bugs worked out 👍

[@markplott4820]

good luck with that. KIA are not known for their software.

[@toronado455]

4:23 sunglasses on the seat?

[@redkid3278]

Bro I just saw ur car in Michigan lol so I searched u up

[@Impimpster2000]

Nice, good job Korea

[@quantumworkscorporation833]

Mach-E vs EV6 would be excellent.

[@ashwinm8849]

50K gets you a big persons toy car! Oh look, hit the button and the car moves!!!

[@roddlez]

The choices: KIA: Building cars with features for the driver that Tesla had four years ago... Tesla: Building cars for a future where you don't have to have a driver... In the end, one of these will be obsolete, while the other will remain relevant.

[@rmkep]

The only feature I wish were in my Tesla Model Y is the HUD.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Different strokes I guess. I have never seen a automotive HUD I'd want.

[@markplott4820]

there is a rumor that Tesla may include a sub display for model 3/y owners.

[@MTNRanger]

And surround view - I miss that the most.

[@cstalt]

Tesla REALLY needs to add the lane-change features to standard Autopilot now that other companies are offering them for free. I want it but no way i'm going to pay $12k for FSD just for lane change.

[@foam27]

or for basic summons

[@seb.]

2:13 blind spot sensor in the charging port??? 🤣 Also are the blindspot sensors generally doing rear cross traffic alert too, or that would be a different set?

[@michaelgoetz7506]

Not sure which sensors it's using, but it's definitely warning/stopping for rear cross traffic. Don't ask me how I know. :)

[@seb.]

@@michaelgoetz7506 🤣 So sad Tesla was cheap and skipped this feature.

[@markplott4820]

that would not be helpful, as it's placed too high. US need to be all placed on bottom of the car. at bumper level.

[@seb.]

@@markplott4820 those sensors are usually in the tailights, it's not parking sensors

[@markplott4820]

@@seb. - Tesla autopark seems to not have those problems.

[@kradwonders]

Would be nice if the vehicle would record the cameras as you drive.

[@michaelgoetz7506]

The Korean version of the car does this, just like Tesla's sentry mode. In those cars, there's a USB port in the glove box where you can put a thumb drive to record the video. It is greatly annoying to US EV6 owners like myself that our cars lack this feature. The US cars also lack some other features because of US DOT regulations, but we don't understand why the dashcam feature is missing.

[@WrathChild-NZ]

why doesnt tesla have a 360 camera view??

[@nealmcmillan5675]

Believe you have to be within 15 ' for the parking assist feature to work. Also have read that the steering wheel has capacitive sensors, not torque sensors like tesla. No need to wiggle the wheel. In my experience need to keep hand on the wheel not just fingertips. After the interior review door handle nonsense i'm having a feeling that Munro is failing to do even basic research before making these videos.

[@noradtux]

At 6:14 (remote parking) you are standing too far away.

[@dennisfahey2379]

Interesting comments. You know for most of us ADAS is changing so fast we are not tracking the milestones and caveats. What would be a valuable service is to create a Munro test track / benchmark and give the cars a Sandy-Score! The track would simulate whatever NHTSA does plus user opinion as shown here. So create a matrix of challenge conditions to exacerbate the stimulate ADAS responses. Go down the check list of what car/feature levels/ functions are advertised and met, etc. All cars go through the same gauntlet with zero bias or exceptions. Then Consumer Reports up a SandyScore! I really actually feel sorry for Tesla's overpromotion of their ADAS. Calling it Autopilot evoked certain assumptions and it worked so damn well it seemed sentient and invincible. But of course it has limits. No ADAS can handle road construction with lane divides not the intended route. Nor could they handle emegency situations where Emegency vehicles and personnel are moving in and out of traffic lanes. In those situations I'd expect a driver to take full control.

[@GlitterGuru]

I don't think the summon feature steers into a spot? I thought it's for when a spot is too tight, you can get out and move in front/back into a spot? It probably saw those lines and didn't want to cross them.

[@alanrogers7090]

Since this car has the "split" spoiler above the rear window, I'm wondering why Kia didn't place the rear-facing camera in the center support, instead of where they did at the bottom of the car. A higher wide angle camera makes more sense to me than a low camera does. A higher camera can able to see farther away than a low camera. I'm surprised that Kia doesn't make the screen that shows your car's surroundings have a color-matched visual. The driver is in a red car, but the screen defaults to a white car. This ia an expensive vehicle, you would think that a color-match would be standard. I've only seen this once before, on a first generation Aston Martin Lagonda that featured this same technology, but the car, which was maroon, appeared black on the screen. Unlike the Kia, the surrounding cars did not seem like a giant's toys.

[@CutterSlade001]

If the camera were in the spoiler there would be a blind spot and you would not be able to see small children and such directly behind the car, which is the original intention of those cameras.

[@Smffyzul]

How does the driving assistant feature on the EV6 compare to Tesla in terms of staying within its lane and maintaining distance between vehicles?

[@markplott4820]

EV6 is less Advanced than Autopilot & FSD beta.

[@wtmayhew]

I prefer no in-cabin go-fast noises. Hopefully the noises can be set to a default condition of being switched off. The marvelous thing about EVs is the quiet cabin.

[@MarkXHolland]

Yes! Let's hope that loud external noises don't become a thing.

[@wtmayhew]

@@MarkXHolland Funny you should mention that. I believe electronic vroom! vroom! was being worked on by the boyfriend in a cheesy Jennifer Anniston movie from about ten years ago. Those flatulent sounding muffler packs that teenagers install on Hondas are bad enough; we don’t need the electronic equivalent. Maybe that’s the next auto pseudo-performance cottage industry - making chips to “enhance” the pedestrian warning system sound generator.

[@adrianhorja5336]

The fake noises can be turned off.

[@wtmayhew]

@@adrianhorja5336 Thank you. That is good to know.

[@asuluzvideoandphotography]

Is in Greer how this guy don’t know this car he’s doing a review of it

[@lakefiftyseven]

It won't be very long and freeways, at least in certain spots, will completely control all cars and trucks and do it in a way that people will be happy...........Perhaps they will leave the slow lane for a few drivers to self drive their car........lol

[@jaysongz5191]

summon and autopark are two different things

[@grahamstevenson1740]

My human sensors still keep working in the rain !

[@zaferroni]

That noise would drive me nuts.

[@paulhetherington969]

There are a choice of several ‘engine’ noises, or no noise. The driver can change them. Unfortunately the ‘expert’ didn’t seem to know how to. It might be interesting when you can upgrade the engine sounds like you did with ring tones. A nice Lamborghini sound… but only inside the car 😕

[@okdok3742]

all the blueprints and patents that tesla has released overtime and still, all these other ev's are barely able to compete with tesla's that are many years older. the next 3 years will be insane!

[@user-zh9kc7tw4n]

Uhm the charging port is at the right rear not a radar... oops

[@SunshineVocals]

Probably too far from the car for the key to properly register

[@grahamstevenson1740]

I'm truly astonished at how many 'driver aids' are deemed to be necessary these days along with the supporting technology together with significant added cost. In my day, a air of eyes were considered enough to be able to drive a vehicle competently ! I can't help thinking that the job of the driver is being de-skilled.

[@hrdgrd]

When remote parking you are standing to far away from it.

[@IvanKashperuk]

It's interesting. It looks like a good car. But funny to see how automakers copy from tesla, but can't just get it to the same level of software quality for the most part. Like with backing up remotely, lane switch assist, etc.

[@LawpickingLocksmith]

I have a Kia, this is a Kia. Nice. But they will never grow up to be a Tesla!

[@Resist4]

Tesla's camera system is a joke compared to this. But I hate the piano black interior trim! Even so, this car may be my Tesla replacement vehicle because Tesla's have gotten so much more expensive now. Is disappointing though that it failed the parking test.

[@narayanalee]

woo woo woo !!!

[@charlotte5159]

I liked the dedicated review focused on self driving. I bought a 2017 Model S and with the promise of FSD within a year. I don't regret the purchase but Tesla better up it's game. Competition is coming on strong. Hopefully Munro will add it to all the new car reviews.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

They didn't promise, they projected and then admitted it was harder than they thought. Strong? The competition is slowly creeping into the game.

[@targetx1733]

Sorry for seeking assistance here

[@lifeofreilly]

You must be within 4M of the vehicle for the remote parking feature to work. This is easily available information. I mean, bruh, if you are going to demo a feature, don't blame the system when it doesn't do what you want when you didn't RTFM :) You could have Googled that *instantly*. That's a big oof from the person who is the autonomous vehicle and self driving "expert". *Shaking my head in disbelief*

[@calholli]

I wish a company would get smart and do away with all that tech and camera crap and sell an ultra affordable EV. You could still sell a plain EV for the next 15 years before all those cameras are even necessary. The software still isn't good enough to use all that stuff yet.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

The cost of the camera's is not the problem with the cost of the car. Camera's are CHEAP.

[@calholli]

@@TheEvilmooseofdoom It's not just cameras-- it's all the sensors, the drive by wire controls, the R&D, the computers and other hardware, the AI driving, the automated parking, ect. ect.. They've spent all this time creating a system that is not needed. All I want is a very simple motor and controller and battery= THAT'S IT .. Give me hand crank windows, manual locks and manually adjustable seats. WE don't need a space ship--- we need something that moves down the road, and is super cheap... It needs to be totally standardized, with the same controller, same motor and same battery across several brands.. and they need to make millions of them. FOR CHEAP. China will end up doing it, just watch

[@cassidybb10]

That spacy noise is awful too lol

[@philipa5568]

As soon as this car is available when inventory is normal I will get one. Do not want to overpay. There are no Tesla Service centers in my state. That is a big negative for me. But the tesla is a great car.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

If you don't want to overpay, don't buy from the dealership.

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

I like that Tesla has no STEALERSHIPS , I can't recall wanting to go back to any legacy auto dealer after I have been robbed blind, both in the sale of the car and the Service Dept.I guess some people like YOU want the Sales and Service staff hands in your wallet🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@amperformance7998]

You can order a car, dealers will be more willing to sell at MSRP. The downside is you'll have to wait some months, but you're planning to wait anyway, so...

[@BrianOlmsted]

you were just too far away from the car for the remote parking to work.