Kia stinger Gt2 reliability sucks!!!

[@DonLee1980]

"no modifications..." except a couple... What does "this is just a kia" mean? Dude, you're such a badge snob. The car was headed by former BMW M division design chief. No Kia was ever built like this. You say it's got bad reliability? Tell that to my BMW that broke every year. I've also had a Stinger RWD for 6 years and not a single fault.

[@urbanjam_1139]

I bet he did something to his stinger by the look of engine bay he is not telling the whole truth.my 2022 rwd gt stinger did 30k not a single problem.

[@ConspiracyDrakonian]

Same I got the 2020 stinger gt2 rwd at 40k miles. Got injen air intakes, hks spark plugs, hfc high performance midpipe and downpipe combo, jun bl evc exhaust. Oil catchcan, and jb4 tune. No problems at all absolutely love my car❤

[@Horrormovieguy2.9]

I honestly had zero problems with my 2020 GT1 AWD but the worst part about the stinger isnt the car its dealing with kia dealerships they by far are the worst dealers to ever deal with in the world

[@brettschuller1863]

I hate every single one of them with a passion. Just find a shop that's ok with dealing with the warranty services.

[@harrymason5032]

I see you got your engine bay all prettied up bet you ran the dog shit out of it. I’ve seen you guys show off and try to spin around all over the highway. Yeah you’re gonna break something every car will I think you just mad on my third Stinger had a 19,20, and 22 never a problem whatsoever.

[@thatruth6488]

Good for you nice bro!!

[@jgregg7100]

Does NC have lemon law? 3 times with same issue and they have to take it back

[@mrscottmescudi10]

I think you’re just very upset you got a lemon…mentioning wireless CarPlay on a car that is 5 years newer? Saying the car feels more refined in an accord? You said ask anybody that had a Kia and went through the warranty process well I’m here to tell you I went through it with no problem. It all depends on your dealer. Honda makes the most reliable engines in the world but buying a Honda Accord after a Stinger GT is mind blowing to me cause that driving experience doesn’t even come close to compare. A RWD biased twin turbo V6 compared to a FWD 4 cylinder “sport” hybrid 💀 If I wanted long term reliability in this segment (even though you said you don’t keep your cars long lol?) then I’d go with the TLX Type S but even then you lose the utility of the hatch. M440i GC and S5 SB are the only direct competitors to the Stinger.

[@gangatalishis]

damn im sorry to hear that man, I can understand the frustruation. its insane how the dealership is refusing to fix the issue and corperate not returning your car is crazy. I guess I would go to the BBB and report this issue, they may be able to help.

[@StreetbeefsScrapyard]

Why did you remove the intakes?

[@urbanjam_1139]

Do you believe no modification he is not telling the truth

[@MoneyShifted]

bruh "it's just a kia" cause of reliability can be said for the same thing for BMW back then BMW couldn't make a reliable v8 for shit and all they other cars always had coolant leaks.

[@Kzxo]

This guy is so mad he had to post two videos on his Stinger. I asked the OP if he bought it new and he legit lied about buying this car new and etc… If he’s not willing to be honest about his former Stinger, idk why people should take this video seriously

[@FordPickUPRed]

I'm sorry you had issues with your Stinger. I have a 2018 GT1 and only had my power liftgate fail on me since I had the car. I run e50 with 24 psi for the past year without issue. I run the brake snip which allows 10lbs of boost on launch. I think the limited slip diff in the GT2 is the problem.

[@manofsesame3024]

Funny to see someone comparing the interior of a new gen Accord to a car built in 2018 (2019 model) and complaining the car build 2018 did have a large screen the new gen Accord has 😂

[@manhidinginthewoods]

sorry to hear it man!!! wish ya the best in the future

[@thatruth6488]

Thanks

[@cjg6364]

People talk about Hyundai and Kia warranties as being the best in the business. Anyone who knows Hyundai and Kia going back to the 1980s knows that the corporation is cheap AF when it comes to warranties. The Hyundai dealer in my area changed hands about a half dozen times because they couldn't manage to make money and keep technicians on staff - not when Hyundai only pays the dealer techs 2.5 hours labor to replace a head gasket on one of their $%^&boxes. The 100k mile warranty is only as good as the company that's standing behind it, which in Hyundai and Kia's case - isn't worth $%^&.

[@ikesparrow2490]

I think you just got a lemon

[@CaliSteve169]

No, it's a Kia, what do you expect?

[@ikesparrow2490]

@CaliSteve169 a bunch of other owners not complaining

[@CaliSteve169]

Dude, ask a mechanic. They never recommend the Korean brands. Don't get duped with this junk.

[@ikesparrow2490]

@CaliSteve169 I'm a certified technician. There reliable cars at the end of the day low maintenance. You decide to get a v6 twin turbo and push it well your gonna have to pay. Big toys cost big money

[@CaliSteve169]

@@ikesparrow2490 to each their own. I test drove most of them when I was shopping for my cars. I saw the online hype so I decided to give them a chance. They have definitely improved since the 90s, I'll give them that. However, they are still not as refined as an Acura or a Lexus. They slap a big engine, but steering and suspension don't feel as solid.

[@old_dan]

It seem you got a lemon, which can happen on any car brand. I have a 2018 Stinger GT2 with 45k miles and zero problems. Last year I drove weekly 140+ mile trips for work training for half of the year, I floor it any chance I get, done crazy donuts in an empty warehouse parking lot and the car has been nothing but a true performer. Your local dealership is trying to hose you and you need to call the State's Attorney General's office and make a complain against the dealership.

[@mattzero46]

Lawsuit, lemon car

[@A1doz]

Damn I was hesitant to purchase a Kia coming from my reliable Lexus. Thankfully my 2018 GT2 with AWD has endured so much even these harsh Canadian winters currently at 55k miles. I will say one thing, I avoid the KIA dealerships like the plague. We had a Kia VIP line we would call as stinger owners back then I don’t even know if that’s a thing anymore, but they were helpful.

[@ZmanCanTV]

If it’s covered under warranty the dealership should fix it, a whole reason I made sure I bought mine certified pre-owned. Sorry to hear this man!

[@therapy_withjim]

Sorry to hear Ive had amazing service from Kia Canada after having issues with the dealership

[@o50cal]

the way you said that at 2:29 made me laugh. I wanted to get a gt2 but a 2022 or 2023 with the updated infotainment. What year is yours?

[@o50cal]

oh and also which diff keeps breaking or was the 2 the front and rear?

[@thatruth6488]

​@@o50cal2019

[@thatruth6488]

Rear wheel drive

[@Alien_Nukes]

Youd probably be better off getting a custom built differential than a replaced stock one which will just break again. Youll need a stronger adter market one.

[@corybureau4124]

bro got a lemon. the 3.3T and 8spd has proven reliability. there will be issues with anything mass produced.

[@KobeMpthers]

How about the 2.5 stinger?

[@jamescobble6518]

You are in short company my guy...not many have had any issues with our cars and some of us are modded to 500+ wheel horse power. Again. 0 issues. There was a TSB on the diffs a while back where they recommended a different gear oil but thats the only thing I can think of for your case...other than dealer tech error.

[@baybreederbayarea510]

If you're not going to keep the car, y complain 😅

[@themidcentrist]

I just got a 2024 Camry XSE V6. The Stinger is my favorite Kia model, but I could never bring myself to buy a Kia or Hyundai. IMO they both put too much effort into making the cars look stylish and not enough effort into actual design and manufacturing. It used to be that Kia and Hyundai were appealing because they were inexpensive, but that is no longer the case. I don't understand why anyone would buy a Kia or Hyundai when a Honda, Toyota, or Mazda costs the same amount of money.

[@andrewwoods-pardee8825]

Its actually a Hyundai they bought Kia & @ least its not the V10 Bmw M5

[@johannest-amour6481]

I had 3 KIA's so far with no problem, 2 KIA Sportage(2020 and 2022) and now I have the 2023 Stinger GT Elite 3.3L V6 twin turbo AWD (I'm in Canada) and had zero problems with all my 3 cars, doesn't mean its a KIA its a piece of s....I know alot of Stinger owners different years , I never heard someone bash it this bad, yeah they have little problems here witch eventually will happen on any cars, I had many many cars in my life, from Honda, Chevy, my first car was a grand torino(yellow) lool....after awhile they all had issues, I think it's just bad luck...but please dont bash KIAs they came a long way.

[@flybriur]

Sorry to hear about your problems you have had to deal with. I too had issues with my GT2, but not anywhere near as serious as yours. Mostly it was fit and finish issues like the sunroof rattle and noise coming from the headliner. They ultimately replaced the rail system of the sunroof, which fixed that issue, and the headliner noise was gone for awhile, but did come back, but is significantly reduced (the issue is the adhesive that holds the liner to the frame -- and the warmer it gets outside, the more the adhesive loosens a bit, causing some noise during chassis flex). I did also have the issue with the brake pad deposits forming on the rotor which caused steering wheel shake similar to a warped rotor (but the rotor not being warped). They replaced the rotors and pads under warranty. Those issues have been quite annoying, and there was a delay during COVID with a Kia corporate tech coming out, but other than that they have at least been addressing the issues. I haven't had any mechanical issues with the car at all to this point after three and a half years of ownership. It does only have around 18,700 miles on it though. The car definitely doesn't have the same level of build quality as my previous Lexus IS 350 (although I will admit that my Lexus, despite me taking crazy good care of it and not beating the hell out of it, still had the transmission fail at around 83,000 miles (the transmissions in these cars should last quite a bit longer than that if taken care of properly)), but even with the issues I have had with my GT2, the car has been a blast to drive, is ridiculously practical as well, and, so far, has been reliable for me. And for the price I got it for, I still feel it was worth it. But I totally understand your position given your situation. It really sounds like you got a potential lemon, and should look into talking to corporate about that (typically you have to go in for the same issue at least three times).

[@cedricscott6622]

Your comment makes me feel better about my own purchase of one this past October. But wow... 3 years and less than 19k miles. Thats amazing! Someone said they drive theirs hard and is at 88k miles without mechanical issues. Just the same headliner rattle sound others have complained about. Sp hopefully my dream car stays my dream car for a long while.

[@mrscottmescudi10]

@@cedricscott6622 2019 GT2 here with 50k miles and no issues besides the well known brake pad deposits. This guy definitely got a lemon and had a shitty dealership to work with. Kia dealers are a hit or miss so I don’t blame him for thinking they’re all shit but my dealer is great…they even Uber me out and in so I don’t have to wait there for service. So don’t worry the Stingers (specifically the GTs) are solid cars for the money given that its direct competitors are more expensive (M440i and S5 Sportback).

[@roczilla224]

Man I have a 2019 gt2 heavily modified with about 500 to the wheel. Never had an issue besides replacing the rotors which I upgraded to slotted and drilled . Im no mechanic and did all the work myself, except install the wmi kit, by watching KZbin videos. I got it brand new with 204 miles on it and it currently have 67k on it and has only been to the dealership for the free oil changes. Sounds like you got a bad car and just got screwed by the dealership. I know its a Kia, but mine has been fun, reliable and a great conversation starter with people who don't believe it's a Kia. It sucks that you got a bad car and they didn't want to make it right for you because it's just as good as the poular name brands that cost 20k-40k more.

[@cedricscott6622]

That's crazy. We got the same name. I just got my gt2 2023 in oct this year but got from another state, but in my youth da ville was home. I say that just because that scares me about my stinger cuz we are similar. Funny i got my moms kia from a Fayetteville kia dealer and they were a terrible dealer. This is scary.

[@canocardonapr]

I think you should check your drive shaft.

[@ahkemyancey3467]

Don't know what your talking about but my 2020 runs great

[@atgoat13]

Sorry you the only person that feels that way i love my stinger

[@USMC_LAterZ]

Don't do any mods before warranty ends. Simple as that.

[@thatruth6488]

Hey, guys, just a little more clarity. The car has 42000 miles on it. Did not start having problems until that amount of miles. The rear diff keeps breaking somehow I do not know why.

[@fragoutrambo6381]

Yea man, AWD is a costly system to run. The Stinger is on a steel chassis so its hella heavy, which is why the differential works hard. Differential service is super important in cars like these, it's just the way performance works unfortunately. KIA dealers suck ass too which is why they have such an awful reputation. I'm sorry you had to go through all that. I think the stinger is a great platform. But it's issues like this and the sorry-ass customer service KIA prides itself on that got it discontinued.

[@goldiilockzz7556]

You keep saying “it’s just a Kia” yet it has German engineering behind it 😂.

[@GiantBrooklynBuffalo]

I'm the original 1000 of the 2018 GT2 and have NEVER had an issue. But do agree that the dealerships are horrible when it comes to customer services for 2nd hand buyers. And depending on your situation corporate mybe suspect. BUT NEVER TAKE YOUR CAR TO KIA FOR REPAIRS, out source to your mechanic. But you Sir bought a lemon..facts over feelings.

[@NateIngy]

Wow man, I’m really sorry about this. I agree with you that if you advertise a car as performance-oriented, it should be able to handle being driven harder than a normal car. They should also be willing to honor the warranty considering they advertise it like that.

[@stanfields5697]

It is well equipped and serves as been a wonder experience

[@JamalSmiith]

Sounds like a bad experience. I can’t blame the hatred for the car after something like that, but it definitely does look like that things been modded out just based on the engine bay alone it’s evident you had your fun with it😂 I’m also not here to say you shouldn’t have though! I got a 2019 GT2 at 40,000 miles now, borla exhaust & injen intakes and I def have my fun with it, I’m not buying a twin turbo v6 to drive around like a soccer mom. With that being said I’ll watch out for tha rear differential, my dealer here in Canada has been very good with servicing on warranty so I don’t see it being a problem. Probably too late for you now but I would’ve recommended trying a few other KIA dealers as with my experience some are a lot better than others and it seems they pick and choose what they want to cover lol.

[@luismaturano4774]

If its under warranty you have to hit them with a lawsuit

[@StalinsPurge]

Yeah he has 0% chance of getting anywhere with that

[@bo0sted]

u know how much money you need for that

[@thatruth6488]

​@@StalinsPurgeexactly

[@flybriur]

@@bo0sted You can get a lawyer on contingency.

[@JustinPennito]

First I've heard of this & I've had a couple Stingers, on top of other Hyundai/Kias & Stingers aren't known for having any reliability issues past early model paint chipping & there would be plenty of things out by now, as it's been out since the 2018 model year, so that's just your Stinger, sad to say.

[@thatruth6488]

You will see a lot of kit stinger engines blown on TikTok.Kia engines are a shit!!

[@ShartReacts]

Did you buy it new? If so you have a 10 year warranty.

[@thatruth6488]

Brand new!!

[@ShartReacts]

@@thatruth6488 Then take it a kia dealership. I had my GT2 since 2020, hada few issues but they fixed it for free same day.

[@TheRealCatof]

@@thatruth6488 You have a 10 year warranty. Take it to the dealer to get fixed.

[@im_not_a_smurf-974]

I mean I get the frustration I’m the second owner of a 2018 stinger gt2 with 85k miles and I’m young and no offense but I would never launch mine even if advertised. It’s obvious that the engine is too powerful for some of the other parts, just sucks you got a shitty one man. There all your average street cars so no point in launching any of them or racing

[@jeffreylewis535]

Dude, I have had one of the first Australian stingers which I still have 6 years later. As far as the diff goes, I'm not sure you could be right, but I've had mine tuned and changed the exhaust and air intakes and have done roll racing with it but not drag racing and to be honest the quality is really good in most areas in this car I will never be able to afford an Audi A4 which would go for about 100,000. I've had so much fun in this car and most of the time if you go to the right dealership they will repair it. You must have a really crappy dealer there but as for reliability the engine has drop forge pistons and liquid filled Valve stems. The car has proven to do 10.9 or less on the quarter mile on a road surface and 0 to 100 km an hour in 2.9 seconds on a road surface. I'm sorry you didn't have a good deal with yours. Every new car has it s teething problems and this one would be no different but bang for buck, you just can't beat it 😎👍

[@stanfields5697]

Damn I had mine 2 years now, a 19 gt2 awd. Never had a problem,and I run it hard. Just because you got a lemon you can't hate on the hole brand my buddy had a soul mother blew up and they f ix in. Pretty fast

[@joaorodrigues-dy9rm]

It sounds too good to be true, a performance car with 7 year warranty. Abusing a car, and the dealership fixing it. Nahhh, when its too good, its just that

[@harlonmac4504]

WOW THEY DIF THE EXACT SAME THING TO ME REAR DIFFERENTIAL BROKE TWICE AFTER THE SECOND FIX THEY KEPT IT FOR 2 MONTHS THEN FINALLY FIX IT AND THEN SAID IF IT BRAKES AGAIN THEY WOULDN'T FIX EVEN UNDER WARRANTY AND LESS THAN A MONTH LATER THE REAR DIFFERENTIAL BROKE AGAIN

[@brettschuller1863]

Kia Service manual glosses over standards that have not changed for years. Diff fluid should be changed 30-35k miles. I do coolant at the same time and oil changes every 4-5k, sometimes sooner if i know ive driven it hard. Only thing im concerned about is the transmission... but name a manufactuerer that hasnt sealed their transmissions.

[@toddaulner5393]

You are in fact the only person i have heard say this.

[@abulhashem-jc9mv]

😆 wtf you have heat wraps if you don’t have any mod? You mess shit up and now piss at Kia? 😆 plenty of people driving 500whp over 80k miles 💪

[@jeffreylewis535]

Honda is a great car and reliability rules over everything else. I agree. Good job buddy

[@averyrichardson1567]

No major problems with mine 62000 miles in but I agree, their customer service and warranty department suck

[@shannonscott9836]

Hey I feel like maybe you got a lemon but Kia still should have honored the warranty so I think you definitely have a point but I have this exact same car and had nothing but enjoyment with it doing pulls no problem also I have friends who have had massive mods on their Kia stinger and have had no problems whatsoever so I think maybe you got the runt in the litter which is no fault of your own but disappointed with Kia not fixing that drivetrain properly

[@wildazme2006]

2018 gt2 here never a problem.

[@ianplonka1148]

It’s the only video I have seen bagging out the Kia stinger.

[@ebeshaj7038]

Take your truth and shove it up 🦋

[@commonduck10]

Got to call out the dealers…

[@scottboyer7557]

sorry to hear that but to be honest my dads kia stinger has no probloms so im confused

[@juniorotero9030]

I got my Genesis g70 at 60k miles no problem on yet so far and I dog tf outta my car that’s what there for you gotta pay to play

[@YogSothoth620]

well, u tell us this . . . my Stinger already has 110k miles on it with not a single problem, i know more ppl who have a stinger with 100k+ miles my conclusion: u just dont know how to drive a car

[@ianthomson4427]

That car looks strongly to have mods.😅

[@copyninja2004]

Sounds like you got a lemon bro. Tough luck. Kia dealers are hit and miss. Good luck with the honda. The interior is nice in those cars.

[@prvideos8229]

I think there is more to the story….I mean I have had 2 Stinger…. One that is still own and best the shit out of it and no issues.

[@crazybeartimba]

Damn. Thanks for the heads up. I was very close to purchasing.

[@flybriur]

I personally haven't heard of that many people having differentials completely fail. In addition to KZbin videos, I'd check out the Kia Stinger forums to get a much bigger picture of what it's like to live with the car on a regular basis and potential issues you may be faced with.

[@1mickyfinn]

No issues with my Stinger 2022 at 1,600. Love this car.

[@mac3176]

@@flybriurI wouldn’t recommend anyone looking at purchasing a new vehicle to go look at a forum filled with people circlejerking about how great their car is of course if you own a stinger your going to say it’s great but try and be less biased and understand Kia has nowhere near the same track record as a Honda or ford I agree the stinger is a cool car but I for one would never buy one after all the complaints I’ve heard it’s just not worth it to me

[@flybriur]

@@mac3176 I disagree about your take on the forums. On the Stinger forum there are tons of people who post about issues they have had and ask for assistance in how best to resolve them. Also, if someone owns a Stinger and has issues with it, I don't think they are going to be gushing over how great it is. Sure, Kia doesn't have the same track record as Honda (or Toyota). In regard to Ford, at least recently I wouldn't say their track record is too good, as their reliability is below average, and in some rankings trails behind Kia. I can only speak about myself, but for me personally, I feel I am rather objective about being a Stinger owner. My last car was a Lexus, so I have that to compare it to. The Stinger, and Kia overall, definitely have their shortcomings, but for the price I paid for the car and what I have gotten out of it so far, overall, I feel it was worth it.

[@markhall3434]

AWD is much weaker.. Actually I'd prefer FWD or RWD only. FWD for handling, RWD for Traction, your choice. I had a Taurus SHO FWD Only, and wow.. enough traction for a darn quick car.. FWD handling is worthy!!

[@DonLee1980]

FWD for handling??? LOL

[@grand__tour]

how is fwd going to be superior in handling compared to rwd? that sounds weird.

[@jakimmixon1461]

This is why I fix my own car lol

[@cahlibedwards1959]

Lemon car man,

[@javiernoriega560]

Love mine. Go to another dealer and Get a lawyer.

[@Matt-vp3nm]

Sounds like you don't know that much about cars. Launch at your own risk...

[@MarketingCoachKen]

Kia lovers might have a hard time hearing the truth about your experience, but truth is truth. Not only that, you could say the same thing about other makes and models. Toyota, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Honda... they all have cars that a poorly designed and made to break down after the warranty expires so you can go buy another new car. You want a reliable car consider Lexus.

[@Okoro17]

But Lexus is a luxury Toyota and you mentioned Toyota as a brand that has lemons.

[@thatruth6488]

Lol

[@martindeleon9863]

Kia is trash. I remember having limp mode issues with an optima and they refused to fix it too.

[@insansiregar6158]

Buy Japanese cars especially Toyota and Honda if you want a reliability

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

Within seconds, my boy, said it's a POS! You had me laughing. Yea, I would never purchase a Kia. Long term, I've seen problems with compression. All my Honda's I drove hard without any problems. Sure there not fast but they're reliable. Hell, Ashley Shaffer did not like to even sell them.

[@cultofmodernism8477]

Kia is the biggest scam company in the U.S. Always subject to mass class action law suit. I bought a shit new 2022 Sorento. Less than 3,000 miles in, it had tech and transmission issues. Sold it real quick.

[@StevenNeidlein]

Kia has always sucked lol 368 hp is not power

[@Ahmed___9]

As a Stinger owner I agree.. it's not reliable at all

[@JamalSmiith]

What’ve been your issues bro?

[@lilredthabest]

sounds like a skill issue

[@moonman_8935]

I raced a Bome Stock Stinger GT1 from a roll the other day in my Lexus IS500. Then a whole lot of white smoke came out of his exhaust lol

[@CausingDread]

Oh shit turbo went out lmao

[@useurnaame]

If U seen the exhaust it means it was beating you .....

[@CausingDread]

@@useurnaame no it doesn’t lmao it means that he could’ve slowed down after it all and saw the guy have problems

[@useurnaame]

@@CausingDread when you steet race you generally don't want to slow down and stick around after the race. Most likely he lost the race lol

[@CausingDread]

@@useurnaame well if you are a runner then it doesn’t matter but I got you

[@FinalVibes]

Honda Accord is an AWESOME car.

[@JohnnyG_films]

lol you dont know how to drive it I bet

[@maxpus1781]

Junk it

[@thatruth6488]

Lol😂

[@arsinalarsin8683]

Kia is shyt

[@kevinc2332]

End of the day, still just a Kia. Well said. Kia are shit. Congrats on the Honda, looks awesome!

[@thatruth6488]

Couldn't agree more!

[@flybriur]

Do you also feel that BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Range Rover are also shit?

[@StalinsPurge]

There's a lot of known issues with these cars and kia warranty being absolute trash. You just have to google it. Also nobody bought these because there is nothing about them that justified the price. Its a kia. Yeah the situation sucks but its a kia and they are junk.

[@UnderWarranty]

It isn't just Kia, all cars have problems, i have had major issues with my Audis and BMWs. You think kia is bad trying buying a land rover, crazy amount of money for a car that breaks down every few days.

[@jakimmixon1461]

@@UnderWarrantyRange Rover is bad 😂

[@flybriur]

I have had issues with my 2019 GT2, but most have been fit and finish (the other being the brake pad compound issue, which isn't a mechanical issue). So far Kia has addressed them all and have been willing to fix and replace what was necessary under warranty. Haven't had to pay any money out of pocket for repairs or fight for them to address something. The main problem (and this is with a lot of brands) is that dealerships are independent, and unfortunately can vary WILDLY in service quality. When I had a Lexus I used to take it to a dealership service department on the East Coast that happened to be in one of the most affluent areas in the county, and they were phenomenal (which is what I expected, due to it being a Lexus, and also because of the area the dealership was in). I moved to the West Coast, and then took it to a dealership service department that also happened to be in another one of the most affluent areas in the country, and the service department used to be pretty good -- and then a few years later it went to complete and utter shit (I believe the dealership may have gone under new management) -- I almost ended up having to sue them over a mess-up with a service recall replacement. And they started doing shoddy work, and one time they totally saw no issue in giving me back my car with the shoddy work on full display, in addition to dirty/greasy fingerprints ALL OVER the interior headliner. With my Stinger, I have had experience using three different dealer service departments -- one was decent, one was absolute shit, and the third is pretty good overall (and the only one I currently go to).

[@StalinsPurge]

@cornpop8260 our svr is great. 75k miles and only issues we've had are u joints and axles

[@UnderWarranty]

@@StalinsPurge Yeah that is good but there is also people that have never had issues with their kias. Type any car into google and you will find problems with it. I have a ford ranger with 42k miles and had no issues but other people i know with same vehicle have had a lot of issues with less millage. Mclaren have a lot of issues and look how much they cost. The badge doesn't mean anything