Kia Stinger V6 review - better than a BMW M340i?

[@carwow]

So… the Stinger, or the BMW M340i? VOTE for your pick below!

[@carwow]

VOTE: Kia Stinger

[@carwow]

VOTE: BMW M340i

[@lglg4151]

BMW...

[@Sheeps68]

BMW

[@duck8508]

Kia Just cus the bmw has a bmw badge does not mean its always best

[@rishimarrivada4574]

Can we please get a count of how my times mat flexed his galaxy fold 😂

[@Markcain268]

Never really noticed, I'm like that with phones lol

[@reecedrury4145]

Needs to stop it though, fold mark in the middle seems more and more noticeable

[@TheMartzyanu]

Literally :))

[@anthonymshila8019]

Samsung should get hold of Mat when he is not at work.... the loyalty....

[@bonzobonanza]

At this point, Carwow should be sponsored by Samsung

[@s1d3k1ckRO]

And remember, everybody has a BMW or an Audi but you'll be more separated from the crowd in this. It's a cool car and it single handedly made Kia a cooler brand than it was before.

[@TheComputec]

I think the sportage (for all of it's foibles) was probably the car that made owning a KIA acceptable... their normal range is drab. They do make really good looking SUV's and the stinger is a beauty, but even at that price point it won't be the head turner in the golf club car park that people think it will be

[@szpecunio]

It's way better than any other sports car just because of it's price. The fact is you're not paying for a bmw badge and that's why it can be as good as a bmw but for 3/4 of the price

[@TheComputec]

@@szpecunio It's fast, has great lines and sounds great, but at £42,000 it doesn't match the German brands for build quality or material choices. For example that steering wheel is awful and there is far too much cheap plastic... You get what you pay for

[@conorf8091]

But it’s still a KIA

[@jimbodean1991]

@@TheComputec As an owner, the only plastic parts are the bottoms of the door bins and centre console, where you don’t see them, and it turns an awful lot of heads. Mostly from German saloon drivers questioning their choices. Have a little look at drive surveys and you’ll find Kia is far above the Germans for quality and reliability. Hence they can afford a 7 year warranty.

[@2005lgt]

Five years and 115k miles later, still love it !! Drives like new !!

[@DonLee1980]

I've owned my Stinger GT for 3.5 years. It's been pretty much faultless, unlike my previous BMW. The ride is quite comfortable and I love how the car is fully loaded. The seats hug you tight so you don't jiggle about so much. The power is awesome but when you want the car to just be a comfy car, it's brilliant. The steering, the drive, the communication with the road is just great. I find it hilarious that the same friends who snobbed at my "Kia" are the same ones who had their German cars break down.

[@davidb5552]

Interesting to watch the brand progress but they desperately need to look at the aesthetics overall as Kia still screams Korean low brow wannabe. Reckon they should start with renaming...

[@arthurbeugre3624]

@@davidb5552 renaming to what for example?

[@masterplokoon4855]

@R A statistically speaking, bmws are not a reliable brand. This is coming from a guy who daily drives a 330i. The other guy's speaking from experience, why are you labeling him as stereotypical? Hell, carwow themselves rated bmws as unreliable in their brand reliability video. Mechanics on youtube concurr, like scotty kilmer who goes in depth about faults in build quality in some german brands. It's one thing to like a brand, it's another to be a blind fanboy. You're embarassing yourself.

[@davidb5552]

@@arthurbeugre3624 No idea Arthur, just simply something that doesn't look like it was designed by a till operator at B&M Bargains during their lunch break.

[@DonLee1980]

@R A stereotypes? It’s called facts. Multiple surveys show Mercedes and BMW being the most expensive to own due to maintenance and repairs for all of the western world. So much for YOUR personal biased opinion. Speaking of being deluded or stereotyping… I am definitely not American.

[@alexlee-isted5046]

I bought my 3.3 Stinger almost exactly a year ago. Absolutely amazing car and people who turn their nose up at it being a Kia are really missing out. Drives brilliant and turns heads everywhere you go. Love it!

[@rul3s1232]

do you still have it?

[@alexlee-isted5046]

@@rul3s1232 I do. 26 months and 31k miles in. Still love it

[@rul3s1232]

@@alexlee-isted5046 i mean i am far from obtaining one but its such a cool car i wish you the best

[@alexlee-isted5046]

@@rul3s1232 thank you. Depreciation is your friend :) Hope you get one in future. They appear to hold up well with age and mileage and still in warranty unlike most manufacturers too

[@donbaird3826]

2020 stingergt2 70,000 miles and no problems. 3.3 tt.

[@spamansh1710]

Forgot Mat had the carbon fibre stick of truth given by Rimac

[@arnavchavan5465]

It vibrates too.

[@EvpopUDIeXx]

@@이진석-z2x no one cares 🤷‍♂️

[@blackcrackmanace]

@@이진석-z2x nothing you said makes sense

[@arnavchavan5465]

@@이진석-z2x @이진석 I am a Beemer FanBoi and apto a certain extent u r right. But Kias don't make bad cars either. (I own one)

[@arnavchavan5465]

@@EvpopUDIeXx 🤣

[@jimbodean1991]

Manual mode sticks when you’re in sport mode, in the other modes it automatically switches back after 10 seconds or so, generally if you’re manually changing, you want to be in sport anyway.

[@garronah]

Yeah, that's pretty much the case for most cars these days. Manual will only stick in sport mode. Matt made a lot of weird, kinda wrong observations in this review. The USB C criticism was also completely wrong.

[@jimbodean1991]

@@garronah Probably the biggest things he didn’t mention is what you could do with the extra £15,000 you’d have by not buying the m340! Can buy an E46 M3 and have the best of both 😂

[@ukgroucho]

@@garronah Err not sure that is true. My experience of cars with ZF 7 and 8 speed boxes (Audi allroad BiTdi, S4, Maserati Levante S) is that you can shove the gear lever to the left to lock in paddle shift only mode. It will, of course, over-ride you if you over-rev or drag it down too low but beyond that you own the gear changes. And the Maserati is a 2019 so pretty 'modern'.

[@garronah]

@@ukgroucho So, like we're saying, you have to change modes to lock the paddle shifting. And moving the lever over to the left is just that. Leave it in the standard position, it will default back to Auto. That's what I'm saying dude.

[@TheComputec]

@@garronah I concur... My BMW does exactly that... It lets you dick about with the paddles for fun but after you've got bored of that and left it in the wrong gear too long the gearbox rolls it's eyes to the heavens, shakes it's head and resumes in auto mode, whether you have selected eco, comfort, sport or suicide mode UNLESS you push the lever to the left in which case the gearbox just folds its arms and mutters "knobhead" under it's breath and lets you wreck the clutches and gears by trying to out-shift the decades of experience that went into gear sequence design by the ZF engineers

[@dylandavies3634]

Bought a 2019 stinger in March and absolutely love it. I've put injen intakes and a borla catback on it and it completely transformed the driving experience. Can't recommend the car enough

[@KimChi4Life]

Why would you do that to yourself and buy a Kia lol

[@rakeshiyer5637]

@@KimChi4Life Because he doesn't look to be a brand-snob and actually want a good price to performance ratio car

[@muckspreader1able]

@@KimChi4Life could be worse he could of but an Audi or VW and spent more time at the garage getting fixed.

[@DEVILTAZ35]

It still has a shit gearbox though. Only that it is being discontinued to make way for Electric cars on the production line i am sure it would have gotten a Dual Clutch by 2023. The other problem is reliability beyond the warranty period if you are the sort of person that wants to own the car and not just lease it. For leasing nobody would choose this over an M340I or M440I as especially in Europe they have such very strong leasing deals for BMW. Also as far as 2nd hand cars go a Lexus GSF would make more sense with that sweet V8 if you want to keep a car.

[@jimmydean314]

@@KimChi4Life Some adults value...er, value. It's easily the most practical sport lux for the money. Oh, and you're a doosh. 🚮

[@Premiumsauce]

Had my stinger for over a year now. No issues at all and it’s a beast. I get so many compliments and questions about it. Whilst I would like a BMW one day I think I’m going to hang onto the stinger till it’s shagged!

[@guifev]

have had mine for 3.5 years - very happy about it ! Comes fully loaded with options so the price shown is what you pay for ... unlike most brands today. Not many people actually know the car so quite many eyes are turning to check what s this car...

[@AAA-xc4zm]

Ever since Mat became a dad, he does child seat fitting test himself. Anybody noticed?

[@jaibhambhe554]

Yeah

[@RohitKumar-df3op]

Ig u've started watching carwow just recently

[@AAA-xc4zm]

@@RohitKumar-df3op I've been watching every Carwow video for the past 2 and a half years. Maybe that's not long in your book. Just watch some old videos. He doesn't do it himself.

[@MonicaHolly143]

He always do this even box test and trolly test back in the days

[@johndavidson3424]

Yeah, he has a baby daughter(maybe) now.

[@robotomo4249]

5:45 Matt is never happy. He complained that when the drink holders were vertical because he'd get his arm stuck in them. Now they're horizontal and he's complaining that his writs gets stuck in them, so they have to be covered. That's Matt for you!

[@xIcarus227]

I think he meant that they should extend from the front side of the armrest instead of being _on_ the armrest.

[@ez10bang7]

shut up

[@alfredoalfaro5000]

He likes to low-key hate on asian cars. Not an uncommon attitude.

[@xIcarus227]

@@alfredoalfaro5000 not just Asian, anything that isn't German. You should see the shit he tried to pull with Ford across the years.

[@rayyannaeem3062]

@@xIcarus227 DID YOU watch his demon review , if not just stfu

[@ukaszb5694]

I wonder if Albert Biermann knows he's the most famous ex-BMW employee. He's mentioned in every single Kia Stinger review on the planet.

[@szilardsarkozi]

So if they change the old USB ports to USB-C’s, Mat complains that you have to change your cables. If they don’t, he complains that they didn’t change them to the new ones. I’m confused …

[@HybridViking]

YES THIS!! Complain about USB C and complain about USB A...

[@youngbo0128]

both is necessary

[@andreicranga14]

USB-C to USB-C is stupid, what phones come with this type of cable? I think only the latest and the most expensive models. If they get a charger at all :))

[@perpelle]

I don't get it either. Don't find USB A unreliable except it's orientation depended. However, it can be used almost everywhere compared C-C and you don't have to buy new ones to charge your phone in the car. When all other industries mainly use C-C, sure.

[@timsmith3229]

Correct! I just watched the BMW 3 series vid where he moaned about that! Maybe he didnt actually have 5 annoying things to say about the Stinger...

[@OPAdmiral]

Beautiful car. I have a 2019 GT (4WD) and I absolutely love it.

[@janhunter49]

They are the Police Persuit/traffic cars in NQ, Australia.

[@Ruchir1712]

I'm actually pretty happy they didn't change the rear charging ports from standard USB-A to USB-C.

[@Chris0-58]

Plus not many people have USB-C to USB-C cables.

[@Dranzell]

@@Chris0-58 Yes, but it's kinda one of those things that you will need sooner or later. A lot of charging bricks are now USB-C to USB-C.

[@erdnussflip3439]

Every new phone have usb c to usb c and even iPhones have usb c to Lightning and usb c can handele up to 100watt 🤷‍♂️

[@jayz4evr]

@@erdnussflip3439 not every phone is an iphone

[@이진석-z2x]

Comparing a bmw to a garbage Hyundai is something only people with low intelligence do. Kia Motors is just a stupid fire car factory that copies all BMW grills and emblems and claims that they are their own.😁😆🤣😂😆😁

[@justjosh11]

I do like the stinger, but why compare the boot space to an arteon shooting brake? Why not just the arteon 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@mateuszrynkowski4731]

Because it makes no difference, if you watch the Arteon SB vid he mentions there is hardly any difference between boot space of standard and SB model

[@justjosh11]

@@mateuszrynkowski4731 that's fair enough, but still why not just say the regular arteon? How many people will know the two have similar boot capacities?!

[@justjosh11]

@@edoalva48 fair enough, don't watch too many of the carwow videos these days

[@HidingAllTheWay]

Probably because a liftback and a "shooting brake" very deemed to be more similar types of car than a liftback and a sedan.

[@lechprotean]

@@justjosh11 it's also to highlight that there is no Stinger wagon - something I would love to own as I need the cargo space sometimes.

[@nathanb2100]

This is another great car that people don't buy enough of D:

[@henryvu725]

My best friend had one and he put twin turbos. Car goes💨💨💨

[@kushgarg971]

Because of scarcity of service centers

[@mitchellsteindler]

@@kushgarg971 what are you servicing lol. They don't break...

[@KayJblue]

I know a few people with one lol.

[@shivamthakur8148]

@@mitchellsteindler lol, they don't break? Aight Mr.Knows everything 👍

[@sjay7292]

Appreciate the fact there's little to zero badge snobbery from Matt - decent review for what seems a decent car

[@UltraJaff]

I think Korean cars are growing slowly on mats like list

[@xIcarus227]

I seriously hope you're kidding, Mat is pretty biased towards German cars.

[@sjay7292]

@@xIcarus227 we're all biased in some way and cars especially are emotional purchases. That being said of almost everyone I know most are snobbish towards Kia and pro-German hence this was a particular observation in that regard if that helps clarify?

[@xIcarus227]

@@sjay7292 well obviously he's not gonna say 'it's a Kia', he's pulled stuff like that before with other brands and he got destroyed for it in the comments section. And yes, we're all biased in some way. But I'm sure you'd rather that your bias be your own, not induced by a car review. This is why product reviewers in general should be impartial.

[@sjay7292]

@@xIcarus227 yer I've never seen where he's done that before so take your word for it and agree impartiality is absolutely preferred!

[@evertdevries8814]

The Stinger has fairly reasonable boot space inside: I'm 6ft 3 (193cm) and have gone camping in mine. With rear seats down, the front seat tilted forward and my luggage pushed over to the passenger side, there was enough length for me to stretch out fully in my sleeping bag on my self-inflating mattress. I could even point my tippy-toes down and only just touched the tailgate area. I found that impressive.

[@johnj3577]

This is good information, one thing I always want to know when buying a car is can I sleep in the back of it. I like to go camping with friends on occasion, but I can't be bothered with a tent any more since I'm getting older. Sleeping in the car is warmer, drier and quieter!

[@SakisCool]

I have been waiting for this review for so long.

[@trcs3079]

If you have a budget or aren't as affluent, then the stinger is for you. If you've enough income not to worry, then M, AMG, RS is all you need. Every budget for everyone who likes cars.

[@lastaccountbannedfortalkin1449]

M, AMG and RS cars are for people who don't care about reliability or people who cannot afford them. Cannot even tow my boat with the junk heaps as they either aren't rated to tow or the rear subframe snaps off with even a light trailer. I have the cash and I don't want unreliable German junk anymore, its not 1993 anymore pal, German cars are rental cars at this point, they struggle to do 100k miles.

[@lastaccountbannedfortalkin1449]

To show the workings for the fact people who cannot afford £50+ k German cars are the ones renting them I fix the things and I'm on a lot more money than the owners are. It's mostly foreigners who rent them as they don't pay taxes. Let's see if carwow let my truth stay up.

[@someguy1907]

@@lastaccountbannedfortalkin1449 I mostly see bmw merc and Audi in low income areas while in the richest areas of where I live there’s mostly British and Japanese cars

[@flopper_heads_popper]

@@someguy1907by British cars, you mean Aston Martin aren't you? :)

[@DonLee1980]

well, if you don't want a car that breaks down a lot, has expensive repair bills, whether you have the money or not... then you have to get the Stinger. Simple as that.

[@magnustan841]

This thing is underrated as f****. It’s a AudI S5 Sportback / BMW M440i GC type machine, for less, with Kia’s renowned warranty and reliability. Plus, it’s different, it’s cool, something to share with people who stop to ask about it. Apparently where I live, in the 3 years it’s been on sale, they’ve barely sold 300 of them, including 4 cyl and V6 GTS models, which is really surprising.

[@KayJblue]

I think they did a bad job on marketing, they advertise the sorrento and k5 too much and give the stinger no attention.

[@darrenb7372]

It’s the service requirements. Ridiculous need to check but last time I looked it was every 6k miles or 1 year.

[@rich7447]

@@darrenb7372 That seems pretty standard for service intervals these days. A lot of vehicles have 6 month intervals.

[@magnustan841]

@@KayJblue What's the K5? Is that available in the US and South Korea only? I've heard of the K9, I assume the K5 is a smaller sedan/saloon.

[@KayJblue]

@@magnustan841 it’s a compact sedan, looks really cool and it’s a great car. Around 20k but is better than a lot of expensive competitors here in the US.

[@belvederedog2563]

Nice review as always. Interesting to note they have removed Custom mode. I have it on my 2020 Stinger GT here in Oz so one can customise the settings for steering, suspension and performance. Bang for buck and value for money, not sure what else gets close to the Stinger GT given all the standard inclusions and warranty etc. I am biased though, I love mine.

[@alexlee-isted5046]

The UK has never had the custom mode unfortuantely. Very irritating as everywhere else in the world gets it

[@chancemcclendon3906]

My 2022 in canada has a custom mode.

[@kia-thepowertosurprise5325]

Simplicity, reliability, value for money !!! 👌🏆👍

[@lindanemnguni1621]

We need V6 twin tabo diesel

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

Reliability????🤣

[@kds8709]

@@aaronrodriguez1410 Kia is literally top 3 in reliability in reliability, check out the 2023 reliability and dependability report by JD Power, only lexus and Genesis (another kia/hyundai product) is above it lol

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

@@kds8709 jd power can't be trusted

[@camirocz]

Just bought one. It is a great car. Had a 2018 C43 as daily before and they are very comparable.

[@emrefifty5281]

Why give up the C43 for this?

[@camirocz]

@@emrefifty5281 Because i buy and sell cars for a living .I had it for a few months and made a profit on it . This car is just as nice to drive and four years newer. I ll keep it until March then export it to the states.

[@KayJblue]

@@emrefifty5281 The Kia is faster with better range and storage capacity and it’s cheaper.

[@이진석-z2x]

Comparing a bmw to a garbage Hyundai is something only people with low intelligence do. Kia Motors is just a stupid fire car factory that copies all BMW grills and emblems and claims that they are their own.😁😆🤣😂😆😁

[@camirocz]

@963 Plug Ask yourself that question when you look in the mirror. Nothing is wrong with me .

[@hamzashami4787]

So who remembers Matt’s first stinger review all those years ago 😂😂

[@mizangaming3816]

🤣🤣

[@TD1237]

Damn that was a BS review if I've ever seen one.

[@jimbodean1991]

Take a shot every time Matt says “For a Kia”

[@DreamCarGarage1]

I'd really love to try one of these. I think KIA have been on a massive roll for quite a while now. I predicted years ago that they would catch up to the premium badges and I don't think we're far off that prediction coming true.

[@mr.c3939]

ICE cars are at the end of their life. So I don't see what's so impressive that they manage to do what other companies have done for over 100 years. It should be expected today, not suprising

[@mr.c3939]

Also, Kia has killed this car cause it didn't sell. So failure

[@ukgroucho]

@@mr.c3939 I think this is part of Kia's proving ground (for lack of a better word) to being a more premium brand. Their new EV6 looks impressive - but it is premium priced... they are trying to make their way into a different market - not the budget runaround but competing with Audi and BMW in the mid-range at least. I think they will do well if they maintain their long warranty proposition. Does not matter to a company car driver (and I did that for decades) but when you buy your own vehicles and have to cough up for extended warranties then having 7 (or 10 in the US) years warranty baked in is huge. I've been a brand snob for years .. VW, Audi, Maserati (OK hold the comments on quality 'cos it's been great for over 2 years) but my aversion to South Korean products has dimmed. my Brother bought a Kia for his daughter out in California and it's been flawless... Sometimes you need to take a step back and think about what matters in your long term driving experience. I know that I love my Maserati Levante S, but I also know I drive it like a Nun most of the time 'cos that is what the current traffic volumes permit.

[@warshrike666]

I dont need to vote on which 1 i would chose mate, mine is now 1 month old. I am in Australia i had to wait 9 months to get it, i have already put 2500kms on it. It is the best decision i ever made my 1st brand new sports car. Smile has not left my face since i picked it up. We didn't get the Seude interior here in Oz so i went for Silky Silver outside and the Red nappa leather inside. I don't know what is up with your mode setup. I have a custom mode and i have setup my own settings. I have the Engine in Sports with transmission decoupled in what Kia calls glide mode, suspension in comfort. Reason for that is it is way to hard and stiff for our road conditions with the suspension in sport mode. I then have the Steering in sport as well because you alter that too in Sport mode. For when i have the wife in the car or i am commuting to work i just have it set to the default comfort mode. In sport mode you cannot change anything like decoupleing the transmission that is full trac mode basically. It is the reason i setup the custom mode because its just too hairy for fun driving in full sports mode. If you are dragging or racing of course you will use default sport mode is what its for. I watched the Video again mate and i saw when you went to change mode you had Sport+, that is where my Custom mode is in my car, mine dont have a Sport+ mode. Why would Kia do that????????

[@sirsimdude]

Love the stinger so much, I've bought it twice now.

[@someguy3856]

I remember seeing this for the first time and being stunned by how good looking it is. It certainly looks far better looking in real life. Hats off to Kia.

[@hyedefinition1080]

Definitely looks much better in real life. First one I saw was the nardo grey version cruising with the winter Arizona sunset bouncing off the paint. It sat so wide and low, couldn't take my eyes off it!

[@davidduffill6412]

I saw one of these at my local Kia dealer when i went to test drive the E Niro. If i wasn’t going electric, I’d go for one of these

[@chrish8487]

My wife's daily driver is a '21 Stinger GT which we bought new for only 35k American and this car is amazing for the price. She did go through 2 rear Michelin PS 4s tires at only 10k, but she is a little aggressive with her driving. Highly recommend.

[@chrisdik5311]

Ι could take this kia for sure! They made very good cars and reliable

[@heinz490]

im a bmw tec the e30 and e34 was perfect but my choice for my daughter was a kia rio 4 year and no amber engine icon only a spike in the tyre kia and hundai sorry to say make damned good cars

[@xolaruxo]

Mat we need a drag race with Rimac and F1 car 🔥🔥🙌🏼

[@Ramiiel]

Yeahhh that'll be epic

[@triplettutorials8334]

Yes please

[@didyouknow5648]

Yianni running is stikk faster

[@nikolagrujanovic8407]

We need drag race Bugatti Chiron vs Rimac Nevera

[@Gdank72]

My 2017 Stinger was the best car I've ever owned. A fantastic GT that you could eat miles up, then switch to Sport mode once there and have a tail wagging RWD experience.

[@tmeisenmann3285]

If you own an M340i, you can feel that the Stinger I've owned was a piece of scrap metal.

[@angelos0]

@@tmeisenmann3285I bet you never even owned a stinger nor a bmw 340 .

[@Gdank72]

I had a Jag 3.0 V6 before the Stinger.... The Jaq wasn't anywhere near as comfortable on daily drives. The M5 my mate has that I've driven had the same issue. Great car on a race track, but on UK roads the comfort of the Stinger wins. Like I said it was a great car.

[@DEVILTAZ35]

I found it let in too much road and wind noise and just no room inside for the size of the interior . Luggage space is great in the back though.

[@lukeslayer]

This car is so slept on, thing absolutely slaps for the price. It's mint 👌🔥

[@lukeslayer]

@hon solo wow hit a nerve there champ? There are numerous reasons why someone like myself would buy the Kia over the BMW regardless of the "FULL 1 SECOND SLOWER" lol I prefer the looks, the BMW looks like arse imo, the parts and service and a shit ton cheaper where I live as opposed to the euros, the car has all the features I like personally within a car, Etc, Etc, Etc.. Couldn't give a shit how the specs line up against the cars you named, they all look like arse compared to the stinger and the stinger provides exactly what I personally would like in a car for that particular value and it's really as simple as that buddy.

[@DEVILTAZ35]

The leather interior doesn't hold up very well for so called high quality nappa leather though. BMW interior is far better.

[@chromecobalt]

@@DEVILTAZ35 Uhh no. BMW really isn't known for their 'interior' even when comparing with the big 3 germans.

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

@@chromecobalt ? Where did you hear that? No kia or hyundai is matching up lol

[@1chrisanderson]

I just ended up financing my white '21 Stinger GT1 as my lease was about to end in another month or so. I'm just absolutely in love with the car and as i'm just hitting 8500 miles, there's a ton of potential still there. No maintenance costs aside from oil changes so far, but i also got the platinum warranty in case I decide to sell it later. I feel like with the cancellation of the Stinger and the inherent rarity of them to begin with , having one with such low mileage made more sense than trying to flip it or trade in for a new lease on a different car (which, yeah... there's really nothing that stands up as an alternative to the Stinger anymore in its price point and style/performance figures)

[@DCB2018]

If it hasn't been mentioned in over 2400 comments, the official horsepower is actually 368hp, 3hp more than the previous model with the original taillights.

[@WUStLBear82]

It's so weird to me that the UK got all the styling and kit updates--except the new KIA logo, which looks more modern and upscale, particularly fitting this car.

[@XDKX101]

Can't recall if Matt said this but it's the 2021. 22 onwards gets the new badge

[@darrenallen5760]

Good balanced review. Apart from the Stinger stays in Manual mode when in Sports mode since 2019 model year 😍

[@johnmaurice6320]

I’ve been watching for awhile, most kia review Matt face be like I don’t don’t wanna do this review!

[@angelos0]

He hate Kia

[@bledakaan]

Exactly...

[@Citizen052]

Clearly he does not enjoy asian cars.

[@teodorbirsan5036]

@@Citizen052 he enjoys the gr yaris

[@elvismegabrain752]

he reviews better cars not a......

[@charlesjames9783]

I’ve driven a lot of cars but my Stinger GT is my favorite. It is a sports car on the rare times you need it to be. All the rest of the time it is a great GT car waiting for a good straight or rolling hill twisties. I have fun every single time I drive it. Always take the long way home.

[@shreyashwankhede185]

My first CarWow video was the old Kia Stinger video and I'm glad I stuck around

[@bmf5420]

Very appealing car, but I still stand by my statement that the M340i is arguably the best all round car on sale today. Not only does it do everything very well, it also has some of that M magic that you feel when driving it. Not only that, you get arguably the best all round engine too in the B58. Imo it’s one of the best cars BMW have released in recent times, and looks amazing as well

[@reapertalon]

That's your opinion and I do respect it, but I also find myself really liking the stinger, and I would argue in terms of bang for buck, I would go with the stinger, purely because, well, it's cheaper, and I really like it

[@LoLeQ88]

M340i is so expensive in my country tho. Kia is like 35% cheaper

[@Refresh636]

it looks like the same old3 series from 15 years ago

[@andreigeorgesco]

The m340i / 440i are definitely better, BUT, also 25k more expensive if you spec them at the Stinger standard level. So, it's just a question of budget in the end. If you want to spend 50k you either get this one or a 330i. Or, maybe you don't care about sunroof, ventilated seats, adaptive cruise, sound system etc and could get a base 340i.

[@dixitjain6851]

In Australia,m340i is double the price but yes, if they were same price, I’d choose m340i

[@Nilamrainudeen1957]

The rear look is awesome🔥🔥

[@DEVILTAZ35]

The older model looked far better. The new one looks weird in comparison. Same with the wheels. The new design are terrible. You can tell this is the last model before discontinuation as they have lost interest in it. It didn't even get the digital dash like the G70. The G70 outsold it 3-1 as well.

[@hs5942]

Usually facelift ruins the original design intention

[@Sheeps68]

Love your videos Matt

[@connerthatdude9369]

I got this car recently with 1600 miles on it for 150000$ no muffler and this thing is so much fun

[@gioviardesigngraphic8403]

I have been waiting for this review for so long for this car

[@beauwasiak8617]

Just an idea, but you should do a Sound System test on each of the vehicles during the reviews!

[@maddog4390]

Yep

[@Cernold]

But you couldn't tell so it would be just his opinion only, what if he has terrible hearing?

[@themanipulator1]

If this car had a German badge on it for the same price, car wow would literally loose their minds, they wouldn't be able to praise it enough

[@muckspreader1able]

Imagine if it was a VW golf or any vag products he would of shot his load .Worst and most biased reporter on you tube

[@themanipulator1]

@@muckspreader1able 100% if this was a VW and cost ten grand more they'd heap it with praise

[@xIcarus227]

This is exactly why I watch this channel strictly for entertainment purposes instead of getting actual opinions on cars. I don't take these reviews seriously because Mat is biased against anything that isn't German. I remember the Focus ST auto vs Golf GTI video where he was spouting nonsense like 'VW hp > Ford hp' when in reality it was clear that the ST's gearing simply wasn't very good. Just one example of many. If you're looking for honest opinions on cars, look anywhere else. Rory Reid is an amazing place to start.

[@frasersime1082]

Yes but at the kind of price of this car, look how terrible the build quality and material quality is on the inside.

[@xIcarus227]

@R A oh yeah for sure, they're built to such a high standard that they're some of the most unreliable cars out there. And I'm saying this as a future RS3 owner. Gtfout of here you little fangirl 😂

[@wallstock]

Why didn’t you show the new exhaust system? Literally one of the biggest changes with the updated version…

[@elrebelde4610]

Yeah, he didn't mention the ,, bigger ,, updated exhaust tips

[@naughtynat82]

Bi-modal exhaust

[@elrebelde4610]

@@naughtynat82 my Stinger has bimodal exhaust installed since 2018 .......... 🤷‍♂️

[@bohomazdesign725]

@@이진석-z2x well, u can have ur opinion, but the truth is that u prob dont even have the money to buy a new car, not to mention a Stinger ^^ In fact, people who drive for years new BMWs and Mercedes cars are impressed with the KIA Stinger, especielly when they hear the price. Only people like u that dont have the money to buy a car like this trashtalk in the internet to make feel urself better?! ^^

[@markhd3059]

@@이진석-z2x Why are you commenting this in under every comment? Are you scared that your shitty BMW that you don't even own got beaten by a Kia?

[@angadjaysingh351]

In the American Model, there are a few differences than this one. A little bit louder exhaust and bigger exhaust tips, it has the new Kia logo and instead of the sports+ mode it has the custom drive mode.

[@skar6001]

4:14 is why i watch this rather than any other car review channel

[@ruhaan6216]

Carwow and Mat always delivering 😌

[@supercarMOMcbrtkk]

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[@tomaszpilka1497]

3:30 “And you fit like a bo’oh’o’wa’er in there” 😆 love the car and the reviewer

[@muhammednabeelsharaf8621]

Can you pls do an suv drag race this time with a trackhawk instead of the jimny and include the durango hellcat too

[@vamosnyckypoo]

Who is always ready for papa mats reviews ( am always ready )

[@chiron03]

Matt, please bring this car into some races! I'd love to see it compete.

[@chiron03]

@hon solo Whoa slow your roll there bmw fan boy, I just said I wanted to see them put it in some races to see how it does.

[@tkyhmaschost336]

@hon solo 급발진 오진다 비머야ㅋ

[@pato10111]

I've always liked these. They have a lot of road presence. I think I would actually buy one of these over an Audi or BMW. Very rare sight in Ireland.

[@Hope2421]

I have a Stinger and it’s a fantastic bit of kit, I’ve had Audis, BMWs, Mercs etc etc and can tell you honestly this car holds its head up high with them all. 👍👌

[@Manx0Mann]

Same here, love my GTS.

[@darrenallen5760]

Same here. Owned Lexus as well. Including Jaguar XJR. Stinger smashes the lot 😍

[@juda210]

@hon solo who gives a flying fuck about 0-60 times? People like you care too much about sheet stats rather than real world application. Interior space, looks, standard options, warranty, budget, personal preference. A lot comes into play when choosing a car. Take into account that Kia wasn’t making performance cars and for what is essentially their first real attempt, it’s a great package. The Germans definitely are ahead on most aspects but that doesn’t take away that as a daily driver this is a great option. And some people simply don’t care about the badges. Also let’s not forget BMW underrate their horsepower numbers almost all the time. Wouldn’t surprise me if the m340i had more hp than advertised.

[@luchoportuano777-s9d]

@hon solo like you will be racing in every traffict light. And beside tha cars you are comparing are atleast 15 thousand dollars more expensive

[@thomaswilkinson4856]

@hon solo no, people just buy German cars as they hold their value better

[@ntuthukovalentine6801]

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL

[@Jangimiau]

It's good that it is a regular USB A connector in the back. That way you can connect any device and not just USBC deviced

[@ccs618]

You should do a follow-up piece about the Veloster N. I believe the same gentleman from BMW was involved in it.

[@rich7447]

I saw a Veloster hit a deer (deer collisions are very common in North America) at about 75 mph and the deer tore it to pieces.

[@mrevoix1]

I wonder why they didn’t update their badge to the new one?

[@levichance]

Good point, the new badge is alot nicer in my opinion.

[@shroomyesc]

If you order one now it'll have the new badge, but we don't know when this specific review was filmed.

[@iPadGameWalkthrough]

2022 models onwards come with the new badge. This one is most likely a 2021.

[@levichance]

​@@iPadGameWalkthrough​ Ah, okay, cheers

[@UltraJaff]

The car is getting production axed next year to make way for an electric Carnival and possibly an electric Sorento and maby, very big maby, Ceed and Rio models

[@neophiri4079]

I see why BMW went with the bigger grills. The Stinger looks remarkably like a BMW from the front, head on position.

[@KayJblue]

It doesn’t, but people who aren’t familiar with cars that I know have made the mistake.

[@aidenp5768]

@@KayJblue compare the G29 Z4 against this Kia, in the front looks very similar.

[@이진석-z2x]

Comparing a bmw to a garbage Hyundai is something only people with low intelligence do. Kia Motors is just a stupid fire car factory that copies all BMW grills and emblems and claims that they are their own.😁😆🤣😂😆😁

[@neophiri4079]

@@이진석-z2x Calm down, I'm not implying they stole the design. Albert Biermann left BMW to go to KIA. Also KIA's are no longer seen as garbage btw. I believe the move was partly inspired by wanting to prove a point about how slowly Germans were developing their design ideas. Look at the 8 series GC compared to the stinger side profile. KIA developed that that idea, literally in half the time. Go on, compare the 6 series GC and tell me that Albert wasn't having a sense of humour!!

[@KayJblue]

@@aidenp5768 I agree that they look similar, but as someone who is experienced with BMWs, I guess it’s easy for me to see everything that isn’t BMW about it. For example the vents on the lower end of the front look like no current BMWs, and the headlight leds look a bit like bmw but to overall shape doesn’t. Overall that’s just how I see it.

[@stephenjacobs5640]

im sooo gonna buy one when i leave school and get a job

[@andrewplayer800]

Not sure if it was my phone but the sound on this video kept dropping out which was annoying. A great looking car with high spec, I put a deposit down one in2019 for a demo then withdrew it four hours later !!?? Not sure why, I regret it now when I see a rare one on the road. Aahh well . Thanks Matt

[@timariaans1710]

I really like this car. Liked the old model and like this model even more !

[@aj-audi6565]

I've always fancied the Stinger because it's the underdog that is packed with goodness :-) . I went with the Audi A5 in 2019 because of fab PCP/discount deals the german auto's had/have, and Kia didn't. The Stinger is still on my radar, especially as the internal comb' has it's days marked and this is a sick 3.3TT V6. I also have an appropriate registration to go with it, "ST19NGR", if you like that sort of thing.

[@heinz490]

the australian police use kia

[@williamvarga265]

9:58 When the Australian car manufacturing industry shut down for good in 2017, this car was heralded by some as a replacement for the Holden Commodore (Vauxhall Insignia in EU). However, the Stinger never became more popular than the Commodore. It seems to be a neglected category of car, demand instead shifted to cheaper Asian cars, and expensive German cars.

[@mrheyfuckoff1]

Hopefully the upcoming RWD Mazda6 can do a bit better in Australia

[@zaneiken07]

Because badge snobs down under wouldn't be caught dead in a KIA. The bogan chariots these days seem to be 4x4 utes anyway - Hilux/Ranger/Triton.

[@belvederedog2563]

@@zaneiken07 Truer words have never been written about this very excellent observation. Even worse, the bogans are buying them for Mrs. bogan, with their jeans with the torn knees and the huge tattooed eyebrows, who use them for dropping off future bogans such as Taylah, Jai, et. al. to school etc. and never actually go off road.

[@belvederedog2563]

William, that in itself is a conundrum. It is far better quality than some cheap Asian cars and offers so much for the price when compared to German vehicles that are equally specced. I love my Stinger and consider it the best value for money car I have ever owned and I have had some rippers

[@williamvarga265]

@@zaneiken07 True! I actually saw a Kia stinger a few months ago that had the badge removed, in addition to other modifications.

[@rishusinha210]

8:58 That's why those headlights seem like sleek Bmw's headlights

[@JohnDoe-is1tl]

My father had a Kia Pride which over the years rusted and literally fell apart, and when looking at its decay i swore i will never own a Kia. Ever.....Fast forward 10 years and it was time to buy my first used car for myself....and in 2016 bought a 2010 Ceed (3 door), since i fell in love in it at first sight. After 5 years we are still on the road today. The whole brand made a giant leap forward trough the years and Stinger is an example of it. Those who swear on german brands will ofcourse spit on it, since they are that kind of people, while others will appreciate what Kia offers to them. The car market is now getting crazy and to be honest i am confused if i even want a new car at all. Shapes are strange, everybody switching to electric and prices going up, so i guess i will stay with my Ceed for next 5 years until situation clarifies.

[@grecopaok]

Correction: Kia Stinger GT not V6 because it has turbo. But keep up the good work Matt

[@Fasteddiebreakshearts]

So does it just float like a butterfly 🦋 or actually stinger like a 🐝 🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@hoon7096]

1:09 another day, another flex on the galaxy fold 🤦‍♂️

[@johndavidson3424]

That Kia Stinger has an old Kia logo, unlike the new "movement that inspires" logo. I know cause I'm a public subscriber of Kia worldwide.

[@elrebelde4610]

I guess it is depends where you are located. In US seems they getting the logo already, but for example in Australia I still see people posting pictures on forums after they picked up brand new car still with old ones :(

[@DEVILTAZ35]

Yeah I am not sure what is going on in some parts of the world but they aren't using the new logo as yet.

[@skewizzyace]

Oh My, I am laughing hard at your facial expression when that infotainment went off, Epic reaction Matt!!

[@rbk7317]

This old style of reviewing is just beautiful.😭

[@GautamSingh-vo5kn]

Legends will definitely remember the " Carbon Fibre stick of truth " 💫 ♥️

[@GinoFoto]

The sad truth is, more enthusiast oriented car is, less people buy it.

[@darrenallen5760]

😢😞😞😞😞😕

[@xIcarus227]

Actually the market for these sporty 4-door coupes is pretty small, and the 3.3L engine doesn't make sense tax-wise for many European countries. It's too small/not big enough to justify the running costs. It should've been a 3.0. That's its main problem. And if it was made for enthusiasts, it should've had the option to choose a manual.

[@MrGahandsome]

So the UK doesn’t get the new KIA emblem graphic I noticed.

[@245thegreat]

On their electric range you will. They want you to feel exclusive with an electric car, and are obviously more money.

[@MrGahandsome]

@@245thegreat it’s electric!!! Boogie oogie oogie!!!

[@shakenator92]

2022 cars will

[@ptr8776]

Nice review! When are you guys gonna make a review for the new Sorento?

[@Fdezluxurycars]

Definitely not better but maybe a more unique purchase. I got my 2018 stinger Gt2 AWD for 36k with 300 miles back in January. Car currently goes for $39k with 10k miles.

[@kks1779]

Cant wait for Carwow to review the KIA K5 GT🤩✨

[@Manx0Mann]

K5 isn't available in the UK :(

[@seosamh7486]

About 30 episodes later, Mat is still talking about his new Samsung Galaxy fold phone 😆

[@phoenix7816]

The Arteon is a kombi tho , no point comparing this to that.

[@blackcrackmanace]

it has coupe version also wich is comperable

[@ICECREAMK1NG1-jw8ig]

@@blackcrackmanace And the price!

[@biruktsegaye688]

red all star and kia stinger nice mat

[@AgtX999]

This car is like the own brand cola in supermarkets, a less tasty alternative to the big brands that you want.

[@thunderengines8786]

Awesome... In India, we have only Seltos, carnival and sonet from Kia. We want more cars from Kia...

[@ayushk4099]

I want Smartstream 1.6 Tgdi engine from Hyundai/Kia group

[@neeljavia2965]

Because this car won't sell here. Nobody would pay 80 lakhs (after all import duties and stuffs) for a kia sedan when you can get a Merc or BMW for that price. Plus this car doesn't even sell well in Europe or US because it costs the same as bmw and Mercedes while not offering the same performance, driving capabilities, quality, technology and many more things.

[@thunderengines8786]

@@neeljavia2965 umm... 👍

[@rakeshiyer5637]

Not with "Kitna deti hai" mentality. The mentality needs to change.

[@neeljavia2965]

@@rakeshiyer5637 Not possible when the average income is very less and taxes on both cars and fuel are insane.

[@001barca]

Still slower than S4 and M340i, but a great car overall and fun to drive, which is the most important thing alongside 7 year warranty

[@kds8709]

still slower but its also like $20-30k AUD cheaper lol

[@001barca]

@@kds8709 Not $20K cheaper than S4 or M240i which are faster

[@kds8709]

@@001barca it is, a clean USED example of an s4 is going for around mid 60s while a clean USED stinger is going for around 45k where i am. when comparing new to new, the s4 is 100k+ and the stinger is ~70k.

[@001barca]

@@kds8709 well have no idea about Australia, the new prices aren't much different in the UK or N America

[@kds8709]

@@001barca that's really interesting, in that case most definitely the german rivals will likely be the better choice.

[@avis1978]

I have one 2020 GT limited AWD in 🇨🇦 and it's an amazing car. It's 20k$$ cheaper then it's Germans rivals, and it gives you the same preference, and it's more reliable.

[@ToruKurosawa]

I am thinking of getting one... the only thing I dislike is the size... it's a big car and in the UK spaces, small roads and congestion are quite a problem. At the moment I drive an Astra VXR J which is quite a bit smaller so it would take some getting used to.

[@ddcupload7373]

Design wise this car has my heart

[@GarryMcGovern]

The line down the middle of that phone screen would wreck my head - I'll stick with a normal screen thanks!

[@AhmedMJ97]

Same here, it is soooo annoying

[@MiguelRPD]

You don't notice it when you're using it

[@rakeshiyer5637]

I'd rather take that crease on the screen than a big fat NOTCH!

[@shahjalalalamabir5393]

Comparing the Stinger's boot-space with Arteon Shooting Brake's was illogical sadly. Because, the Arteon sedan is a fastback just like this Stinger

[@Nazhror]

if you watch the arteon test they mention that the SB's boot is basically the same size as the sedan

[@shahjalalalamabir5393]

@@Nazhror brother that I do agree, as the Arteon fastback has 563 liters and the Shooting Brake has 565. But my point is, whether they are same or not, comparing a fastback sedan with a wagon is not logical, that too when the wagon you’re comparing it with also has a fastback version. Lastly, Mat said in this review that the Arteon Shooting Brake has 590L of boot capacity, but on the ASB's review, he said that it has 565L. One mistake there too 😕

[@rayhan4502]

@@shahjalalalamabir5393 He is not comparing fastback sedan with a wagon, he is comparing fastback sedan boot with a wagon boot, it's a different thing

[@shahjalalalamabir5393]

@@rayhan4502 bro that's what I'm also saying. The difference advantage of a wagon over a sedan is its cargo space, so comparing their cargo spaces are just unfair

[@rayhan4502]

@@shahjalalalamabir5393 Thats the point tho.. it should be unfair, it should be different, but in fact it's similar and almost the same. So it's a win for a sedan that could have same boot size with a wagon

[@sebastianjohansson2602]

How is the gas mileage on this car? Does putting it in eco mode make a significant difference? Greetings from Sweden ;)

[@lastaccountbannedfortalkin1449]

@hon solo you are a joke, everyone is laughing at you. You called me a bum so wheres the vid of your boat son? My outboards cost more than your house.

[@mikojarvinen6273]

@hon solo Kia Stinger is a bigger car and better value for the money. Comes with all you need as standard meanwhile in a more expensive BMW you still need to buy the options. What comes to 0-60 times. I’m sure the germans have more power than they claim. That’s very typical of them. Ford Mustang though is also great value. However it’s a coupe so Kia is more practical.

[@mikojarvinen6273]

@hon solo That’s a good point but it depends of the market. This market effect is what killed many premium cars from non-premium brands. Also the reason why premium brands like Jaguar and Alfa Romeo struggle in several markets. The resale value is poor no matter if the car is good.

[@mikojarvinen6273]

@hon solo Seems reasonable. Here in Finland SUVs and anything with four wheel drive holds their value much better than elsewhere. Especially the legendary Toyota Land Cruiser. They sell for crazy amounts even after 15 years. Mercedes are highly sought after in the used markets. Japanese cars and Volvo too.

[@itumelengmapokgole6896]

Carwow your one stop car buying comparison site❤️

[@JagoTFC]

A 3.3 making 366hp is a great figure. I'd like to see the power curve. When you said the cheapest V6 out there you made me throw back to Hyundai Tiburon coupè.

[@rich7447]

I was surprised to hear that since we (USA) seem to have a lot of V^ and V8 sedans that cost about the same or less than the Stinger ($43k for this model). Just as a quick comparison, the V6 version of the Dodge Charger starts at $31k.

[@JagoTFC]

@@rich7447 the SXT has 292 hp NA is 1723kg. The Stinger V6 is 1873kg. Both extremely heavy. Anything beyond 1500kg is too fat. I'm not into big sedans. To me the right size is the Audi A3 sedan. A platform C sedan is the right amount of car for anything. I live in europe.