Kia stinger JB4 maps explained, requirements and how to make E30 mix

[@andrewt3619]

Awesome video. Love how you had pictures for everything and really explained it. Thank you so much🙏🙌

[@SupraNaturalTT]

I have the Denso's that were sent in the full JB4 kit for my 2018 G80. I gapped them down to .024 running MAP 3 with 91 E30 mix, stock intakes, stock exhaust, car runs freaking mint with no cutout hitting 19+ psi. Pulls very strong with no codes thrown and logs look great. Will try MAP 4 soon with JB4 intakes and same E30 mix👌🤘

[@410ytlmustang]

Do you need anything for the corn juice outside the jb4

[@phantomgodly3318]

@@410ytlmustanga little late on reply lol but if you’re running e30 you do not need anything except the jb4 but if you want higher ethanol content you’ll need high pressure and low pressure fuel pump

[@chemicalphoenix3]

Those of you who are saying great video are lying to you. This was honestly the worst and least informative video I have seen on this particular topic. You can't make a video titled JB4 Maps explained and requirements and then say you either don't know what that means, like you did with map 8, or say something that only showed me you had no idea what you were talking about. It is recommended that you run .022 or .020 gapped spark plugs no matter what map you are using with the JB4. Next you don't need E30 to run map 3 and up like you stated. Map 3 E30 is an option you can also use octane boosters as well, map 4 you need E30 or a good race fuel and Map 5 literally tells you that E85 mixes may not be suitable for that map. Then Obviously Map 6 is user adjustable so you don't need E30 there either and Map 7 is solely based on WMI so again no need for E30 and Map 8 you definitely don't want to run E30. And since you stated you had no idea what it meant let me help you out. Map 8 is a valet map which runs half as much boost as stock. This means the car accelerates slower because the turbos aren't pumping out stock psi numbers. you would use this map when you were going to let someone else use your car, such as dropping it off at a dealer or something along those lines and you don't want them joy riding in it. Then when you were reading some of the maps it sounded like this was your first time reading them and then trying to explain it to us on the fly. I don't mean to be an ass but my god this was just terrible in more ways than one not to mention the phone numbers popping up on screen, idk who that person is or why they are sending you movies via imessage nor is that my business but if I was that person and I started getting weird texts and calls because of this video I would beat you senseless.

[@stinger_gt219]

Thanks for the feedback 🙏🏽

[@TheAmaye]

Yeah this was bad

[@edsonhernandez5109]

Why don’t you make a video yourself and help us all out?

[@sjcajw7]

@@stinger_gt219 you are a super nice guy. The original poster's comment was unnecessarily harsh. I found your video extremely helpful. First video I've found that actually helped me understand the different maps and why e30 is. Keep up the great work!

[@stinger_gt219]

@@sjcajw7 thanks brotha, means a lot 😮‍💨🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@R85DAVID]

Great video. Valet map is for the times you park your car with a Valet Driver and you down want them to play with your car so you limit the car to 1/2 it’s power and they cant abuse it. Also good if your lending your car to a friend or family member who is not used to driving a high Horsepower car.

[@stinger_gt219]

Ayeeeee thanks for the info 🙏🏽🙏🏽🤣

[@elcadete4189]

Thinking of getting a stinger now

[@SteelCyclone1]

So kinda confused, I had a camaro ss 1le and needed a flex fuel sensor along with a tune to run e85 as it requires more fuel. In this case with E30 does the JB4 know to add more fuel based on the Ethanol content percentage? Here in Arizona the E85 is actually E60 and we only have 91 here. So according to a E85 calculator I would need 9 Gallions of 91 and 6 gallons of E60 to get me to E29.

[@stinger_gt219]

Well if you want to get accurate reading. I would recommend getting the flex fuel sensor. But no jb4 doesn’t push more fuel. 93/91 already has a bit of ethanol but your car pushes e30 fast enough to run more boost without losing power. Anything higher than that it’ll bug I remember I had e40ish without the cpi kit and it was having trouble around 110. The flex fuel kit has an amazing calculator and will figure things out for you. I’ll do a video tomorrow to help you

[@1state152]

So if u fill up on e30 . If I want to fill my car again at around a quarter tank mark how do I know the mix to run?

[@MadeinOregon503]

Say you have 1/4 tank. The tank capacity is 15.9 gallons… so 1/4 of that is 3.975, multiple the factor the calculator makes for you depending if you have 91, 92, 93 etc. www.morepowertuning.com/emix

[@JustChrisGamming]

Do you know what the 30% mix would be for 91 octane? We only have 91 max in CA or at least my city. I have a Premium stinger with jb4, hks plugs and k&n drop in filter running map 1 currently.

[@stinger_gt219]

I heard people run 91 with e85

[@stinger_gt219]

Do some logs after you do and send them to BMS

[@JustChrisGamming]

@Stinger_gt21 I heard that to. I was curious on the mixtures. Really thinking of trying it.

[@oglalo8753]

Hey so im new to jb4 , once i change from map1 to map2 is it safe to pump 91 to 93 without any other modifications?

[@stinger_gt219]

Yes it’s safe, you just won’t get the max output

[@stinger_gt219]

Please always us 91 or 93. Never 87

[@Zoom-CDL]

This carries over to the genesis g70 right?

[@stinger_gt219]

I’m pretty sure it does

[@Zoom-CDL]

@@stinger_gt219 also is it undetectable on obd scanners ?

[@stinger_gt219]

@@Zoom-CDL yeah dealership will never know it’s there unless you leave it on.

[@Zoom-CDL]

@@stinger_gt219 thank you for all the help. It does carry over to the g70 I just put it on. Personally I went with hks since I’ve heard they are the best for me. All I need left is a downpipe and Intercooler. I could do meth injections but I gotta daily it ngl😂

[@stinger_gt219]

@@Zoom-CDL I daily mine lol

[@michael-qv2du]

Any issues or codes with your jb4 thinking about getting one for my 2022

[@stinger_gt219]

no codes at all brotha.

[@oglalo8753]

So map3 and map4 is the same fuel requirements ??

[@stinger_gt219]

Yes 🙏🏽

[@oceanlifestyle2371]

I have 92 octane and been using map1 on jb4, can i use map2 using 92 is it safe?

[@stinger_gt219]

Yes, a lot of people only have 91 and run for map1 and 2

[@oceanlifestyle2371]

@@stinger_gt219 nice bro

[@NorthYorkCountry]

Very good video. But you have to make sure you don’t show somebody else’s phone numbers showing up on your screen as you receiving messages.

[@stinger_gt219]

yeah my bad!

[@grimlinms3614]

Valet mode is so the valet can't take your car and beat the hell out of the motor

[@goldenchannelone441]

I installed my jb4 yesterday. And now I keep getting battery discharge warnings on my screen all the times, any advise on what to do ?

[@stinger_gt219]

Hi, can you run me thru what you installed? DM me on instagram and we can work on this together brotha, Stinger_gt21

[@goldenchannelone441]

@@stinger_gt219 will do. Thanks.

[@regalgn1]

Never run 87 in a 3.3TT Stinger no matter what!

[@rail2110]

You can as per the manual

[@regalgn1]

@@rail2110 And the computer will retard timing to avoid knock retard and you lose hp. No thanks

[@lilman227]

@@rail2110 Yea, but if you drive hard on 87, it’s living on the edge of the knock sensor

[@garywilliams7319]

I’ve run 87 octane for years with my 2018 GT2 with no problems. I switch around depending on how I’m going to drive my car. So you could be right about the knock sensor, depending on how you drive. All it does is pull timing advance if it detects preignition. Normal driving vs racing requires different levels of octane, like it says in the Stingers owner’s manual. 93 octane DOESN’T have more energy than 87 octane. That’s why running 93 won’t improve your gas mileage over 87 under the same conditions. Now, 93 will allow the engine to make more HP only because the higher octane allows the ECU to run more timing advance on demand while avoiding preignition. Increased octane doesn’t make more energy, it just has higher ability to AVOID preignition and allows for more spark advance. E85 per government regulations can be anywhere from 51% to 83% ethanol(about 105-112 octane) so unless you use a test kit at the pump, you will not know what percentage of ethanol you are pumping at the “E85” pump. So the long and short of it, unless you hot rod all the time, using 93 octane in you Stinger is leaving a lot of money on the table for no benefit in return. Sorry for the long comment but a lot of people may not understand the difference between the two.@@lilman227

[@lilman227]

@@garywilliams7319 I totally understand ya. I absolutely agree that higher octane does not equate to more power in the fuel. (Actually, E85 has less). With the engine loaded between 2k and 4.5k rpm is where I usually see knock if I run regular gas. We do test the E85 in my area pretty regularly, and post results in our group. Lots of test kits, and flex fuel sensors. One more annoying thing to throw into the mix is atmospheric pressure in your area. I’m below sea level, so there’s more energy per combustion at a given throttle amount. The only way you can get better fuel economy on higher octane fuel is either when the engine is on the knock sensor with lower octane, or if you adjust the tune for efficiency through the cam phasers and ignition timing. As for adding power by running something like an E30 blend, this effectively “stretches” your fuel system if you don’t have a tune for it. This is because the stoich of e85 is way different (9.8:1 vs 14.7:1)

[@islandersonly]

Where can I get a copy of that information? Is there a link you can send me? I'll be buying my jb4 from another vendor and not from bms website, can you send me that information as far as the map set up ?

[@stinger_gt219]

Yeah, DM me on Instagram

[@dre_withthek1655]

Never run 87 on a stinger man. I have a 22 GT Line and only used 93 since I've owned it. At least use 89 if you're trying to save some money, better for your engine.

[@brn0ut4ever86]

Ok real question, has there been any real issues with jb4 that caused you trouble?

[@stinger_gt219]

I’ve had it for 19k miles and no issues at all. Installed it when the car had 2k miles and I’m now at 21k fbo map5 cpi kit e50

[@tipziiy6029]

So can you run map 1 with 0 supporting mods/ basically stock?

[@Nastyflow61]

So if you wanted to just run map 1 or map 2 you would get the “1 step” spark plugs ?

[@stinger_gt219]

I ran map1 and 2 without the plugs and I was fine. I did upgrade them to denso and ran map3-5 e30

[@nickyalbadi4060]

@@stinger_gt219 question.. I have a totally stock 2021 Stinger GT Limited ( Canada) if I get a JB4 AND NOTHING ELSE.. no intakes, no exhaust, and no plugs.. Are you saying the car can run Map 1 and Map 2 , safely with out anything but a Jb4?? But I would change the plugs just to be safe.. and of course 91 or 93 thanks for response.. James

[@stinger_gt219]

@@nickyalbadi4060 yes you can run that. But might make less power than shown on the dyno charts. Spark plugs are always a plus just to be on the safe side. I know I ran map1 and 2 for a few months before I got my spark plugs and e30

[@terrorsz75]

I don't see what the HP and TQ are for Intake, Map 2 and 93, is there a difference?

[@stinger_gt219]

This link has a lot of info with Dyno sheets that you can look at, It says here that map 2 is around 416HP and 514 TQ with intakes and 91 or 93. Just scroll down till you get to the dyne sheets and look and the mods with maps burgertuning.com/products/kia-stinger-jb4?_pos=3&_sid=da24dec2b&_ss=r

[@nateszatkowski499]

I have the Denso step 1 plugs can I run Map 3 with E30?

[@stinger_gt219]

Yes sir you can

[@betoherrera4288]

I’m just replying on this one since it’s a recent video but I’m kinda holding back on adding e85 to my car to make it e30 I have the gt1 and also live in California I’ve never ran e85 but I want something more than map 1 I’ve got bms intakes densos step 1

[@stinger_gt219]

@@betoherrera4288 denso and intake will allow you to go map3-4

[@stinger_gt219]

@@betoherrera4288 of course on e30

[@reonidsavic345]

Hello, I'm from Europe, which maps can i use with Octane 97 (bp ultimate 102), intakes and HMS spark plugs? We don't have E85 or E30 like gas.

[@stinger_gt219]

Is 102 with the additive?

[@reonidsavic345]

@@stinger_gt219 without boostane etc, it comes from the gas station with 102 octane, should be around 97 in American units

[@stinger_gt219]

@@reonidsavic345 you can run map2 and 3. Do some logs on map 3 and email them to me

[@reonidsavic345]

@@stinger_gt219 Ty, when I‘ll do, I‘ll mail you, I guess it will be in early September though

[@reonidsavic345]

@@stinger_gt219 sup mate, I finally got the Jb4 and installed it, can I still send you the logs? would need your mail tho. ty

[@jermainem3399]

Excellent job yo stay safe stay I stingers for life..peace thank bro

[@dmgwraith8417]

Ordering the 450hp package

[@stinger_gt219]

that's what i currently have brotha! trust me you can feel the power asap! i have every video you'll need here as well to make the installs run smoother for you. If you have any questions, im here to help!

[@dmgwraith8417]

@@stinger_gt219 much appreciated bro thank you!

[@joshuabreen]

Just ordered mine this morning!

[@stinger_gt219]

@@joshuabreen good bro, they can be removed very easy with no trace. keeps your warranty!

[@mrhades6420]

The reason I like the race Chip because it "doesn't" require you to add different gas or any mods to gain HP but there's been story's where they have mis fires. Theres this one where this guy bought a i30n when they came out but he couldn't have it tuned because no one done one for it since it was new. The answer was getting a race Chip and it did gain HP but he ended up getting mis fires and I'm pretty sure it was because of the race Chip. Idk if he changed the spark plugs. I rewatch the and I think the problem was the high pressure fuel pump. I'm not a geek at this but I'll link the two videos. The second one is where he explains why were they having a problem. Race Chip kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3_cZaR6aLaeY7c Motec ECU kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5rQaIGImb1sr5o

[@stinger_gt219]

misfires are caused because you are making more boost and the stock spark plugs aren't gapped right and don't give a colder spark, leads to misfires, also in most cases depending on the extra boost you are trying to get it'll require a mix so that it burns better. again so it doesn't lead to misfires at higher RPMs. I'm sure his misfires could've been since he had stock sparkplugs. Map1 doesn't require a lot but anything over that will recommend upgrades so that you don't run into those exact issues.

[@mrhades6420]

@@stinger_gt219 ooh ok, that makes sense, your reply is very helpful and appreciated.

[@marclemar]

Great video

[@stinger_gt219]

Thanks!

[@hughski0000]

When do you need intakes, exhaust, intercooler?

[@stinger_gt219]

You don’t need Intercooler for any map tbh. But intake will help the turbos and hp gains.

[@CorEdmonds]

@@stinger_gt219 Hello, are cold air intakes needed with these cars (3.3L)? I see a bunch of them with air filters laying in the hot engine bay. I do know inter coolers will cool the charge air temps down but sucking in hot air from non insulated air filters cant be helping either.

[@stinger_gt219]

@@CorEdmonds yeah it won’t help much unless you are doing rolls because you’ll be sucking in all the hot air. I have the velossatec ram air so I get better temps.

[@marclemar]

This version from the link doesn’t have Bluetooth?

[@stinger_gt219]

burgertuning.com/products/jb4-device-connection?_pos=18&_sid=a7a616ff1&_ss=r

[@stinger_gt219]

Hi, sorry forgot to link it. But I posted it here for you

[@marclemar]

@@stinger_gt219 ok cool so you can add it. For some reason I didn’t think you could. Thx

[@stinger_gt219]

Yes you can either get the Bluetooth for $140 or the other adapter that goes to the computer. I’m make a video on the as well tonight

[@teedubya5150]

@@stinger_gt219 Not sure why people leave out the other cost. The Bluetooth is extra but remember the mobile app to use the Bluetooth is another $27.99 on Android or IOS,,, lol

[@Kzxo]

So map 1 and 2 can be safely used on stingers with no mods?

[@stinger_gt219]

yes. just 91 or 93 gas. but if you want to see the same numbers you see on the dyne sheets, its better to have the same mods

[@dailydriventuners9122]

still get plugs if you are going to run map 2, i'm waiting on my fuel it flex fuel kit to run map 4 but suggest you get plugs if you are going to run map 2 so you do not chance it, it's hit or miss with that

[@DrewThompson-n5e]

93 octane under 3 dollars. Damn.

[@coreyrath2562]

U have an ig?