Multiplayer Cheating, explained

[@Chomperling]

I love how simplified you made this video for non-gamers, I can tell you really worked hard not only on the (incredibly smooth) animations but simplfiying explanations down to the bare bones as well.

[@KianBrose]

Glad it worked! Yeah I'm trying to move onto making content that the highest amount of people can watch without any prior requirements

[@Chomperling]

@BradynLee This would be true if everybody in the world was a gamer, this is of course impossible as some people dont even have access or even know about these technologies we have. People are always coming into the gaming community and these new people are going to hear some person across the world calling a person a "aimbotter" and this new person will have no idea what this person is talking about. This video is a very good way to teach these new people what a cheater in a video game is and how they work, giving them more knowledge and information on this topic they are learning about. lets be fair here at a certain time in your life you learned what an aimbotter was either through hearing it or being killed by one, and wanted to learn more about it. Its these videos which help people learn when other sources fail.

[@pierre7967]

finally a person that actually understands how hard and time consuming it is to make videos that has these these type of stuff

[@thecrypt6482]

It had nothing complex, Most of his information are very basic

[@NadeERLCTrailers]

@@thecrypt6482 You try animate it and explain it for a non gamer then

[@jsbots]

Thanks for the video. Didn't know there's a special terminology for type of bots. From the point of creator I consider bots more interesting and fun to make rather than cheats. When you watch your bots doing something on their own, there's always something mystical to it, as if you created something alive.

[@KianBrose]

Indeed, the perfect feeling of a program doing exactly what it's supposed to at incredible speeds

[@LineOfThy]

@@KianBrose impossible

[@estrawitch]

most roblox games, especially repetitive ones, allow and encourage the use of macros and no one has been banned for it

[@patrikugrin2592]

I don't think there is a trrminology

[@sicker889]

@@estrawitch these type of games mostly called simulators

[@Hasanex]

The quality of the video is so good! Very concise too and glad you got a sponsorship, hope this channel works out for you!

[@KianBrose]

Thanks! Hope so as well

[@demonman1234]

You also have the cheaters that cheat just to experiment and see if they can, same concept as people who do actual hacking on random systems as well. I consider myself one of them, I don't cheat to be harmful to anyone (which my cheating I usually do in singleplayer stuff), I normally cheat just to experiment and see if I can do anything fun that the game didn't originally intend for.

[@KianBrose]

Fair point, although the amount of people that do this kind of thing is very very very small hence why I didn't give it a category, I'd arguably say it will eventually lead to profit cheating as you make em and sell em

[@demonman1234]

@@KianBrose Tbh personally I never wish to sell cheats, the profit though comes from the fact that I’m planning on doing pentesting as a job, legally.. which would in fact bring in profit, but cheating in games is mostly just for fun or curiosity to see if I can do it.

[@Simking]

I don't know if I can classify myself as one of this kind, but sometimes I just love to mess around with stuff in the game without directly affecting the players if there are any, or even affecting them but without hurting em: mostly to make them laugh or something. Sometimes the game gets so boring over time (no new content or something) that I use or make exploits to make something fun out of already existing pieces, and if there any backdoors to import stuff. I never really enjoyed cheating the way in which other players get hurt or lose interest in the game, and never understood people who are continiously doing that. In my perception, cheating is like a form of art if performed correctly.

[@stolendiamond09]

@@Simking I remember playing a mobile game a long time ago in which the presence of cheaters had become part of the appeal of the game. Basically, because it had no form of anticheat so it was overwhelmed with hackers, no one really played the pvp as intended. Most of the time what would happen is that a hacker would join, fly out of the map into areas you can’t normally get to, and then use a specific power to pull people towards them so that most people were outside the map. Then people would just hang out and shoot at anyone who joins that isn’t up there lol That kind of cheater can be contrasted with the other kind, the people who join with guns that one-shot everyone, and start flying around spawn killing people until they win and then leave. And I think that illustrates what you said pretty well. Anyone who does the second type of cheating, even if they are just “experimenting,” is a despicable person, but the first one does little to no harm and makes more fun in an otherwise abandoned game.

[@jkls3sk620]

A game where alot of people have "cheats" is geometry dash or maybe getting over it but that's more of a modded game and not cheat

[@h3xad3cimaldev61]

I use to be one of those "profit cheaters" writing programs that people would use to cheat. I've stop along time ago but this video is great and accurate. It clears up the fact that cheats and basically computers and general aren't magic and have each side has complicated mechanisms. An extra tip however: Most good mod menus also use the network manipulation so mod menus and network hacking aren't completely separate.

[@KianBrose]

Yeah these can be mixed and matched, I personally used a mix of a bot, mod menu and network cheats for one bot to 1. network cheats: force all mobs within a map to spawn in the same area 2. mod menu: modify values like cooldowns on attacks, to make the player attack hella fast 3. bot: attack everything near where they were teleported to To make a hyper efficient farm

[@zakiahmed6655]

I still don't get what a network hack is. I get a mod menu and bots are even easier but what is a network hack? Is it like cheatengine or something?

[@h3xad3cimaldev61]

@@zakiahmed6655 basically sending your own packets to the server

[@universaltoons]

​@@zakiahmed6655modifying data sent to the server

[@zakiahmed6655]

@2cz5 thanks for now I’ll take your answer as the truth since no one bothered explaining or even replying

[@noobus1232]

I may be 9 months late, but you've earned yourself a subscriber for the high quality content.

[@KianBrose]

Tysm!

[@sergeychistov8162]

Agreed

[@rather_foolish]

I hate to admit this, though cheating is annoying, bad, and unsportsmanlike, etc... its also impressive that people can program something this advanced

[@KianBrose]

Indeed, making them is a satisfying process

[@PraviLukijanJC]

It is annoying but I still hack (parrot security operating system) and exploit on games where it will not be annoying so i can learn.

[@rather_foolish]

@@PraviLukijanJC That's fair

[@dacinrodney7024]

Wasted talent

[@Elias_Auxilibus]

Then there's the singleplayer-only cheaters like myself which despise this kind of cheating. Anyway, I might have known all of this, but Kian certainly did a fantastic job at explaining things to those that don't. Good work! Keep it up!

[@KianBrose]

Ty!

[@Elias_Auxilibus]

@@KianBrose Out of curiosity, will you do a shorter followup video on explaining cheating in singleplayer games? It's a wholly different kind of crowd doing it for different reasons, and we often take flak because of multiplayer cheaters.

[@STOPSYPHER]

Exactly. If it benefits me in a purely solo game it’s perfectly fine, but it’s different once it begins effecting other peoples gameplay experience.

[@ceadeusx]

​​@@Elias_Auxilibus the methods used in sp are still the same as in mp so theres no need. Also the intensions are the same. To make the game easier/more fun. The only aspect that changes is the effect on other players.

[@devawarewolf]

true its fun to experience different way how normal game wont allow or just easily practise stuff withouth reseting level or stuff all the time

[@marcuscazzola4005]

Wow, really nice animations and well explained! Great job. Congrats on your first sponsor!

[@KianBrose]

Tack!

[@bobucproidk]

amoung us sussyibng impoter uw imohegroihgoeh

[@yesfiraswa]

Finally the only KZbinr that puts sponsor part at the end of the video...

[@revyyyyy]

Great job Kian. Amazing to see the final video, after the few snippets you showed us :D

[@KianBrose]

Ty xD

[@blackguy-ij7ij]

I don't want to "feel" like I can beat the game, I want to actually beat the game

[@WearyShy]

Awesome can’t wait! Edit: this was very good! Learned a lot in just a few minutes!

[@KianBrose]

Glad to hear it!

[@slovakthrowback3738]

Really well made video, you're really improving as a creator. Good stuff!

[@KianBrose]

Thank you!

[@nerjghoeghl]

you forgot about the rare funny hacker, where they just hang out and do silly things like teloporting or being immortal but letting the last person win. the pacifest

[@Lerre]

Well structured video. I didn't myself learn a lot of new stuff, but i will definitely link this video to someone that doesn't know about thede things. Especially since you explained it better here than i could in a million years. Also older games have another kind of cheater type from what i've seen. The kind that are decent/good at the game, but start cheating just because it gives the game something new.

[@KianBrose]

I mean fair, at that point its more of a modificiation as they do in minecraft than a cheat

[@Natumi.]

this was a really well made video! i already knew the superficial things about hacks, but i didnt know it can go into detail like this! it was pretty easy to understand and follow, and the editing is really good! im surprised this doesnt have _more_ views.

[@KianBrose]

Ty! It actually semi blew up this month, it was at like 6k views after 100 days

[@Natumi.]

@@KianBrose thats good! i hope there will be another surge soon :>

[@prism9884]

People that cheat have got to be some of the saddest, most pathetic type of people to play in any online lobbies. It’s like letting everyone else know you suck so bad you have to hack just to get kills.

[@Tetroner]

I know its a stupid story but the first cheat/mod menu i ever used was in gta online. My first account (original legit) got banned because one day some modder gave me money drop. I immediately left the session thinking nothing would happen. Next day i see that i got banned. I tried to appeal and obviously Rockstar games wouldn't listen. So i used mod in second account just to take out my frustration (just added money didn't harm any other players). And the best (or worst) my second account never got banned. Edit: Nice video tho with visual effects. I am looking forward to become either a software or game developer, so its kool to learn something new from you.

[@KianBrose]

Glad you liked it! Yeah, game enforcement is often times pretty dumb

[@saucysaucingsaucer]

I already knew most of this but this video was great, I think this is a great way to explain this to people not as knowledgeable on the subject

[@KianBrose]

Indeed, I wish this existed when I started out

[@sushilkumarlohani6709]

Following you for more than 2 years and You are one of the best content creator on KZbin on this topic❤️🇮🇳

[@KianBrose]

Thank you!

[@Froguko.]

This is one of the smoothest and most concise yet informative videos ive ever seen on this platform, brilliant work Kian :)

[@KianBrose]

Thank you!

[@blerst7066]

I'm glad you made this video. Gamers and devs have to know how cheats work so they can quickly identify and counter them.

[@Purple_flower2002]

Devs know how cheats work…The likelihood that a Dev of a game like CoD helped make those cheats is VERY high

[@digitalsiler]

pro tip game devs create the cheats to make even more money.. from the cheats and from New game sales

[@Block_Piano]

I am actually a player of a Minecraft Anarchy server. Because Hacks are actually allowed there, it`s always fun to see the most technical, high-quality clients fight each other.

[@KianBrose]

yep

[@x4dam]

Minecraft, Fortnite and even ROBLOX players really need to learn this information!

[@liliataneva5874]

Tf2 players are currently shitting themselves for not mentioning them

[@nicholasbolen]

Excited man, glad to see you back on it

[@KianBrose]

Ty!

[@stefanmilicevic5322]

Wow, thank you for this concise and very informative video. Awesome work, my dude!

[@KianBrose]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@arvram6103]

And so the legend returns, glad to see you are back

[@KianBrose]

Ty!

[@nubcops220]

Your videos are awesome, simple, and self-explanatory. Thank you

[@KianBrose]

Glad you like them!

[@daniellim1212]

This is such a good video. Hopefully the algorithm picks it up eventually 💪🏻

[@KianBrose]

Hope so as well

[@dragomir44]

Great video! It's a bit misleading though that you visualize an aimbot in the start of the video, but then never explain how an aimbot works.

[@KianBrose]

Good point, but essentially the game receives information from the server about where opponents are, then a mod menu reads that information and displays it as boxes on the screen & lets you lock to them, I thought it would be too complex of an example to show

[@2b2tAU]

​@@KianBroseget player xyz pos covert to w2s (x, y) vec2 move mouse

[@Zullfix]

7:16 Fun fact, the told level domain (or "extension") is actually not part of the email specification. Dylan Beattie has a great keynote about the email that he performed at NDC Oslo.

[@makandalp]

This video has an incredible amount of work in it. Amazing

[@KianBrose]

Indeed, took over a month

[@space_audits]

Your channel is awesome. I really enjoy your style and sense of humor. Keep it up my man.

[@KianBrose]

Thanks, will do!

[@MomoWhaley]

Mmmm... 0:41 Its not JUST Ego and Profit I am one of these "cheaters" And my good sir, I use it for entertainment and pure boredom when I have nothing else to do. Yes I'll admit I have relied on it at times but honestly never Ego Or Profit anddd thats all :) Thank u for entertainment and have gweat day :>

[@KianBrose]

Ok

[@MomoWhaley]

@@KianBrose yis :)

[@RetroMadnessOC]

Love how you explain it so simplified, even i know how it works but it's good for people that don't know.

[@KianBrose]

Ayy glad you liked it!

[@GearsDatPowerDaTubes]

Fantastic video! I've written and analyzed cheat clients for Minecraft and this is a fantastic introduction video to understanding the basics of how they work. AIs like Baritone, modified clients, and packet interception is a great way to classify these techniques. I only cheat on anarchy servers which allow cheating, so I cheat for curiosity, which I guess is ego. :P

[@KianBrose]

glad you liked it!

[@frogzach6203]

Which languages do you write them?

[@GearsDatPowerDaTubes]

@@frogzach6203 Since minecraft is written in Java, a vast majority of them are written in Java or Kotlin, which is Java compatible. Tasks like packet modification I've seen done in Javascript, but Java is still predominant in the minecraft community. I'm not as knowledgeable on the bedrock minecraft community, but I have seen a few C++ clients written for it.

[@jhonlugo3144]

I was expecting more in-depth and detailed information about cheating, but this video just explained the broad term. While most of the points you mentioned are correct, I was hoping for more nerdy and gritty details.

[@KianBrose]

Unfortunately that would make for a boring video due to people with short attention spans that refuse to go through the explanation...

[@jhonlugo3144]

yeah sadly that right now, keep doing what you're doing mate if i may, i suggest if you wanted make it more in depth i would gladly helped. like about type of aimbot, type of wallhack and stuff.

[@savoeunyi7081]

Really well explained. While packets from the server to client are absolute. Packets from client to server can be modified. Depending on the anti-cheat, it could be pretty bad for the players.

[@KianBrose]

Exactly

[@AG-ld6rv]

Even as far back as Diablo II, people had working methods to duplicate items by fabricating client messages. Eventually, Blizzard detected these and swiftly banned offenders. It is such a common thing that I can only hope not many video games suffer from a lack of verification. It is more likely in smaller projects lead by less experienced programmers though.

[@zankiie]

ooo so long without video 😂 nice to see you back

[@Stormface16]

Very nice source of information! Well done. Would be cool if you could take a look at something like a leveling bot and check out how it's implemented

[@KianBrose]

Actually I had something like that planned for the next video

[@WnuTux]

I usually forget to like videos or dont like them but yours force me to like.

[@KianBrose]

Tysm!

[@danzisdaman1732]

Very well made! I learned a lot!

[@KianBrose]

Ty! Glad to hear that

[@Birchwood_log]

3:52 whats the name of this program again, please i cant remeber it

[@KianBrose]

guessing you mean the android bot one without even checking, repetitouch pro

[@Birchwood_log]

@@KianBrose thxxx!

[@ufatech636]

I learn so much things from you 👑

[@KianBrose]

Glad to hear that!

[@lordcinder]

I love videos like this on KZbin, they are informative in the most intriguing way possible

[@KianBrose]

Glad to hear it!

[@behradroshanii8619]

Dude we all support you. Keep it up

[@KianBrose]

Thank you!

[@Nycto97]

One of the easiest subs of my life! Great video, thank you!

[@KianBrose]

Glad to hear you liked it!

[@alfredomenezes8814]

Simply amazing, thank you for this video!

[@KianBrose]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tippyrelaxation4857]

Psst, I used to cheat quite a bit Let me inform you of another reason that others may cheat Ego and profit are the most likely run-ins tho, so keep that in mind. There are simps, which is self explanatory. There are people who are obsessed with justice. (Trying to make what they’re doing seem right with a “Logical” motive) And my personal favorite, to discover. This isn’t bad, nor is it good. It isn’t harmful, as it is just weird to others watching. This was the route I went with, and let me tell you now, it wasn’t bad. Seeing all the code, seeing parts of the map cut off, seeing what’s under the map. It’s really cool! I’m disappointed that people use such a thing as an unfair advantage tho, it’s just rude and disrespectful to the time creators put into their game Alr, thanks for reading, have a lovely day!

[@aezxol]

i do it to annoy people 😃

[@JohnPaulBuce]

@@aezxol i used to do the same but eventually i got tired of it so now im only doing bug abuses

[@KianBrose]

Yeah a lot of the comments justify the "for fun, technically not harmful to others" kind of cheating, and the odd scenario like minecraft 2b2t where hacking is kind of the game itself, which I hadn't considered

[@KiemPlant]

5:15 I mean, if this hack works then the game basically deserves it lmao. No encryption or (especially) server side validation would look extremely bad nowadays.

[@KianBrose]

Yeah, but youd be surprised how many glitches are found this way

[@KiemPlant]

@@KianBrose Yeah that's true. I also mainly meant the most obvious things. Once you can bypass the encryption and are able to forge packets you often still can do some pretty nutty stuff like teleporting projectiles in lots of UE games like Fortnite. (at least that used to be possible, kinda been out of it for a couple years now)

[@glootte]

This video is incredibly well-made and easy to understand from the perspective of a legit unlike others I've seen that either stray off-topic into personal opinions about cheaters instead of the main topic or are too complicated to understand for people who haven't cheated. Personally, I cheat for 3 reasons. 1. In most games, it allows you to play the game in an entirely different way, such as HvH (hack versus hack), or make tactics that would normally be either unviable or impossible more accessible. 2. Not to make regular people mad, but to make people who dox/harass people or think cheating should be punishable by real life punishment over pixels on a screen (although people who use cheats to crash a games economy such as TF2 or CSGO should get punished with fines since it affects people who make money from trading or running services to aid in trading). 3. Cheating has gotten me into coding and TASing (Which is essentially just using cheats like slo-mo, input recording, and save states among other things to make a speedrun as fast as theoretically possible, not meant to compete with legit runs.)

[@KianBrose]

HvH, that's a new term I haven't heard before

[@firstclass000]

So how would a duplication cheat work on multiplayer games? For example, in minecraft bedrock edition, theres many duplication glitches even though it is an online game.

[@KianBrose]

The last part of the video explains this, you basically figure out what part of the server code isn't validate it and send it a bunch of fake info

[@simonszydlowski]

you deserve more subs this channel is epic

[@KianBrose]

ty!

[@nglyoulookgay6657]

good explication +1 follower

[@KianBrose]

ty

[@TheMisterNebo]

Pretty good explanation. Didn't really go into detail of how aimbots actually work, but it's pretty good and accurate.

[@KianBrose]

Twas click bait I'm sorry

[@Xevion]

Half right on the reason: yes, there is a certain level of ego to be solved, but on the other hand, it's literally just fun to get an advantage. Playing the game in a way very few are, with little restrictions, and complete control over whether or not you win or lose. Yes, there are some cheats that are so god-like that it makes it unfun - there is not even a hint of a challenge, but there is also some levels of cheating that still require skill and "try" to maintain. Also, as a developer, I find reverse engineering games very interesting and different from my normal job as a software developer. Developing hacks is something I truly enjoy, both as a learning + development process, as well as plain entertainment.

[@KianBrose]

Oh for sure, making them is great and I do make some myself, but most of the times the people using it just use it to ruin others experience and not simply make their own better, like a mod would

[@badinez4937]

I find it exciting to find more about this topic, Great video

[@KianBrose]

Thanks!

[@mrdemon7353]

Thank you so much for this information even though I also use hacks sometimes to get items too quickly 😂

[@oAstro.]

great video, what is the song you used at 0:42? I am looking to use it for my own video, Thanks!

[@KianBrose]

unfortunately don't know xD It was made like a year ago at this point

[@oAstro.]

@@KianBrose all G man

[@paolr.343]

To keep it 100 with you I’ve been cheating pretty much for four years now and over 40 games to 30 games and I do it to test the game because a lot of games do promote their game being the best game know cheaters great anti-cheat, and I prove that wrong every day when I cheat in a game a lot of games that act as if they’re a good game or their devs actually put a lot of work into the game or super wrong. They are just money profiting because I can prove that their games aren’t on Hackable. I can use the shittiest menu to the best menu and still not get banned and when I do all I have to do is make a new account which takes literally a minute.

[@KianBrose]

I mean anticheats are expensive, I don't expect small companies to actually care

[@6leoo6]

At 6:14 you wrote that you are aware that the stock video is html while it was JavaScript😆. Other than that nice video!

[@KianBrose]

Ty! Technically inline js inside of html lul

[@bodaciouschad]

I've always wondered: if someone sets up a camera to watch their monitor and an XY motorized chassis to control their mouse, and uses pistons to operate their keyboard and they run their robot on a different computer which isn't connected to the internet, could they be distinguished from a human player? Would we have a Wattson moment between KennyS and a robot that mechanically plays CS:GO driven by a visual bot?

[@KianBrose]

Yes, depends on how the server is made In the end, the server doesn't know what you are running on your computer, it's the antiviruses job to tell it that you are cheating A chassi solution would just not trigger it since it's well... external

[@bodaciouschad]

@@KianBrose I imagine that it might even be possible to make a consumer version of this sort of thing using a microprocessor, some pistons for the keyboard, a chassis for the mouse with pistons for the buttons and a special HDMI/DisplayPort cable that branches the monitor's input into 2 identical outputs so that you don't have to have a fancy camera. I'm honestly more suprised that there aren't kits like this on Amazon at this point.

[@KianBrose]

I mean yeah I don't doubt it's possible, but for that amount of effort I think it's still going to underperform when compared to an actual integrated mod menu

[@tavo1ga]

i'm necroposting, but VACnet can automatically flag suspicious players for further review, it uses machine learning to learn the behavioral patterns of cheaters, then just guesses based on what it already knows cheaters will do when reviewing players

[@ChiekoGamers]

THANK YOU for not making this video 10+mins long.

[@KianBrose]

It's only as long as it has to be

[@TRVABL]

why are you making a video about it... you are killing the game 0:10

[@KianBrose]

?

[@TwinShards]

Is it that hard to take clip uploaded on youtube by cheaters?

[@gankfrombush]

@TRVABL simpleton

[@ordermorehours]

You might be slow

[@R0SSC4T]

​@ordermorehours how come I come across this random reply only 15 minutes after it being posted. Creepy..

[@Zaxes]

Great video, I will say that you wayyy oversimplified the reasons people cheat in video games. There was a great talk done by EAC about the different types of cheaters and how they specifically combat them. As someone who used to cheat in many video games (and upload videos on them) and still does from time to time it is a way more complex issue/topic than what was displayed here. Seriously the best video I have seen on simplifying how cheats work though

[@KianBrose]

yeah most of the comments went through the cases of why you would cheat, which i hadn't considered at the time

[@DevCucr]

at 7:04 is very common thing to happen with network hacks such as game hacks to games where you buy things with the game currency, it just manipulates your device to think there is the ammount of the currency, so its just a visual thing

[@KianBrose]

Yeah which is why most people complain in the cheat engine tutorial about "it didn't work"

[@romanberdichevskii5141]

Hey! Great content! What was the Android Macro app used in this video? at 2:30

[@KianBrose]

Iirc it's repetitouch pro

[@Yosh1az]

man, the video is so well made. I'm now a subscriber looking forward for future videos

[@KianBrose]

Ty! Glad you liked it

[@nuglar8239]

2:28 what is the app you used there? Would appreciate an answer

[@KianBrose]

guessing you mean the android bot app without checking, repetititouch pro

[@nuglar8239]

@@KianBrose thanks

[@yeetus5653]

the way this guy simplifies linear algebra to tic tac toe is legendary

[@lakshya5946]

KB Maintaing streak for regular videos. And here we have another episode of it

[@moopiemoopie]

What macro program did you use at 2:27?

[@KianBrose]

Repetitouch pro

[@Hostage..]

I used to run bots and dupe massive amounts of items across games for money, still cool to see you explain the entire process and simplify it for other people tho.

[@KianBrose]

I mean it ain't a tutorial but it's the rough overview, glad to hear that tho ^^

[@jules7073]

Its defenitely not only about ego or/and profit. As a cheat developer myself i can say that developing cheats are very educational.

[@KianBrose]

for you, otherwise the people that use it its either ego or profit

[@jules7073]

@@KianBrosebut its the starting point for most. First you learn gow it works and then you learn how to build it and experiment with it

[@jules7073]

@@KianBrose but i do agree most just cheat for ego or profit and they are assholes

[@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge]

I hope ur not actually using them in multiplayer

[@Salehalanazi-7]

Great video any tips on animation? is premiere pro enough for this?

[@KianBrose]

No premiere is garbage, I used to use it up until the last video until I discovered davinci resolve, it's what adobe would be if they didn't split one app into like 8 different ones

[@Dhia-Ounissi]

Best explanatory video ive seen about this kind of subjects

[@arman7163]

2:27 what's the app name that you're using in the settings app

[@KianBrose]

Repetitouch pro

[@arman7163]

@@KianBrose thanks 😊

[@ratman8251]

Watching you explain cheating hurts so close yet soooooo far

[@mapleint997]

It's kinda weird that this is so close and so far away simultaneously. Still a great overview for people who have absolutely no intention of getting involved in the scene.

[@KianBrose]

I mean it’s the valid theory of how it works, it doesn’t go through the practical things tho

[@rayexception4590]

Great production value!

[@KianBrose]

Ty!

[@dichebach]

You did a good job explaining the technical aspects of cheating in accessible non-technical language. Well done! You should do one on TST and Attestation and how they might impose severe limitations on cheating if more developers actually made use of them.

[@KianBrose]

To be honest I've never heard of tst or attestation lol

[@dichebach]

@@KianBrose Consider it an impetus to learn about them!

[@stefanocesaretti8962]

About the reasons, add fun. It's fun to create cheats and it's really fun to use them. I sometimes make and use cheats in some games (making sure not to ruin ppl experiences, for example creating XP lobbies and flying around the map) and it's simply fun.

[@KianBrose]

Fair

[@Nacalal]

Funny enough, there was a time in world of warcraft, back when it was very much still the king of MMOs, when a packet spoofing attack gave a couple regular players the equivalent of admin access to their respective realm server, letting them do things from spawning NPCs, to modifying gold values, to flight, and so on. No joke, there was 0 confirmation serverside that they should even have the authority to do that sort of thing, in one of the most technically complex games in terms of networking at the time.

[@alkinurdotran1053]

its not ego/profit, it can be grind of the game, or difficulty. Talking about single player cheating in this case.

[@Elektronyx97]

'imagine using aimbot' 'bro you don't even play games' 'ik'

[@ElitePlaysTactical]

I did not know in detail how those hacks and cheats work. Nice video! 👌 But it is pretty shocking, that there is even money being generated with it or a market behind it.

[@thehypejk_]

Music from 0:16 to 0:42?

[@KianBrose]

Don't remember sadly

[@vic_710]

great video dude you should have more subs for such quality ngl

[@KianBrose]

Ty!

[@richardpowell1425]

Good video. I was waiting for more detail about aim bots.

[@KianBrose]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@fredtrentini6791]

This video's quality is insanely high, gj

[@KianBrose]

Thank you my good sir

[@PaulGames93]

Hello, thanks for making this video, i am playing minecraft for a long time and i have faced alot of "hackers". I understood everything but did not get the answer, but that's not what matters. I have to say a big WOW (Not sarcastic) for the ones that didn't knew how it work, just like me. Now i understand a little better, but you can give more deteals, information. like in a game of Free Fire or minecraft 1.8 pvp hackers. It'll help me alot, and if you see this, i'm subscribed and waiting. 💫

[@KianBrose]

I'm slightly unsure about the question you have, as in what you don't understand

[@cybermats2004]

How do they protect their games from people that duplicate the quest. i want to learn more about how cheats work on the network server vs client in online games

[@KianBrose]

Basically you have a system that checks whether you have completed that quest before or not

[@WillFlores1]

You explain things really good and the visuals are so nice

[@KianBrose]

Ty!

[@Team25VR]

An easy way to prevent interception over networks is to use SSL encryption. That way, when a cheater tries to intercept it, it will look like absolute garbage going over the network and they wont know what to do. Also, another easy way to prevent cheaters Is make a websocket sided anti-cheat and a webserver sided anti cheat.

[@KianBrose]

Nope you just use a burp suite trusted certificate and bypass ssl

[@Team25VR]

@KianBrose Using burp wouldn't matter if I already had all those Ips firewalled. To make a secure web system, a developer would firewall all ips tied to proxys, tor ips malicious server Ips or anything that could cause harm or use to evade IP blocks. Also if a server is using this system, it is impossible to get around it as there is usually server sided authentication.

[@KianBrose]

@@Team25VR A good enough tech person can mess with any local security measures on their own device, it all comes down to how the server interprets it aka the validation part of the webserver

[@ytczech2746]

If I am making a RTS game similar to StarCraft, how can I make the anti-cheat that recognises bot who uses just what players see, hear and can do?

[@KianBrose]

you dont, its not preventable

[@NoThing-ec9km]

What about limiting the vision of players themselves on the local device. For example in FPS games, Only tell the enemy location to client device when the enemy is actually visible directly to the player so that he can't use cheat to see enemy locations all the time. Ofcourse it's not completely preventable but limiting Client device information and storing most information on server until it's really needed to be delivered to client device, this may help.*

[@Thunderclap117]

Ego based cheaters don't necessarily do it because they are bad at the game, quite often they cheat when they actually have the skill to pull said feat off. These cheaters don't always stand to gain something, but they are instead cheating to avoid losing something: their pride. This is surprisingly prevalent in speedrunning and other singleplayer challenges, where a top player cheats to do something they could probably do anyways with a bit of work (e.g. Dream [don't @ me]). Instead, these types of players cheat because they have a sense of entitlement, and feel like they deserve the world record, high placing, title, etc. They can often rationalize it much easier due to their skill, because after all, they could achieve this on their own, the cheating is just making it a bit easier, right?

[@Thunderclap117]

They can also be harder to catch, for example, if a pro COD player starts using an aimbot out of the blue, there is a less significant difference in the skill gap that could be missed or rationalized by other people that could assume the cheater just practiced a lot

[@KianBrose]

I mean that's kind of what ego is

[@tacnayn-x]

"Fine shot, mate!" "Good shot, mate!"

[@qwassred2539]

such a good video damn really smooth and nice animations

[@KianBrose]

ty!

[@JBRIANJEFFERY]

Outstanding explanation 🎉 ❤ 😮

[@KianBrose]

Glad you liked it