How to install F80 M3 Brakes on an F30! CHEAP Big Brake Upgrade!

[@EE_E38]

I appreciate yall continuing to make content on the F30 even though there is a new generation out.

[@bigshooTer39]

I echo his comment. Fantastic job putting out this material. I can’t tell you enough how thankful I am for it. The F30s are at an age now where modding is about to explode. Warranties expiring and pricing is in the range of the younger generation

[@M235i_bluelightning]

The f models are just beginning their way. They still have a lot of lifetime and tuning parts are still developing.

[@twinturbo8304]

Is yall A word?

[@iamworthy1302]

@@twinturbo8304 yes also known as y'all (you all)

[@purplepurplesaurasne]

I fully agree, my F34 was bought out of warranty used a year and a half ago and the youtube community has been a vital suppliment to the Bentley manual.

[@MegaGecas]

This was extremely informative. I will grab a coffee and ask my grandma to change my brakes. She managed through the WWII, I'm sure she will manage after these instructions.

[@ricardocuevas7815]

I love how Brian makes me feel like I can do a full engine swap in my shed with a pair of channel locks and a screwdriver! LOL Another great video.

[@AilikeLi]

Thanks for keep putting out F3x contents while the G2x lines are starting to flood the streets, appreciated Bryan!

[@bmw_m4_alpinewhite]

Just a side note here Brian, make sure to code the DSC with the correct disc size so the ABS/DSC knows when to trigger ABS when necessary. When retrofitting larger brakes/brake discs, you want the ABS to kick in later compared to smaller brakes!

[@Steven6489]

I coded SPBR in my F30 but i dont see any option in DSC for me to change the disc rotor size. Can you enlighten me where I can change it?

[@abumashfiquzzaman7806]

Would you be able to share the coding process please? I’ve done some research already but still not 100% that I can do it correctly.

[@washableaxe]

This is true. The brake bias needs to be adjusted. VO Coding SPBR to HO WORT option will do the trick.

[@washableaxe]

@@Steven6489 I am 99% sure adding SPBR to HO WORT is sufficient. Anecdotal evidence from people across forums is that FDL coding rotor sizes has no impact on braking. THIS IS SPECULATION, but I've heard adding S2NHA to your VO will expose rotor sizes. I don't know how SPBR + 2NH play along together.

[@jcarlo331]

Def note that

[@rhadoob]

You don't get higher stopping power with larger brake discs, but you can use them more before brake fade from overheating. Braking is tyre limited.

[@DearMajesty]

actually you do get more stopping "power". You just can't use it because as you mentioned, it's limited by tires.

[@BIGGELATO]

14:46 unless work is done on a 7 series and upgrading to M brakes for some yacht racing, might call it Portside and Starboard. Installing a hood on the bow and new exhaust back at the stern lol

[@derekyam1805]

Of all the DIY videos of replacing brakes, you are literally one of the few that actually cleans the hub. Its just a simple step that so many miss or skip. THANK YOU!

[@javianjohnson8746]

Thank you so much for the demo at the end on reseting the brake life for the system!!

[@johnshaw8013]

Those calipers are exactly the ame as what Niissan 200SX S14a had on the front..... 20yrs ago!!!!! Exactly!!!!! I must have put 6 or seven sets of Ferrodo DS2000 pads in those so I know what I talk about!

[@CarsWithKeav]

There was a separate Msport brake option that included these calipers and rotors for the F30 335 and on the 340 it was part of the track handling package. So glad mine came with it. If you can’t find used M3 you can search for the upgraded Msport ones. I’m pretty sure they are the same brakes. There was also a dealer accessory package adding a bigger kit in Orange, yellow or red with slotted and drilled rotors.

[@Dutch79]

Yes, M-Performance retrofit has yellow/orange or red calipers.

[@jongouy2798]

I'm glad you brought this up! I have a 2014 335i with the blue m sport brakes. I have F 80 lower control arms. I wonder if I can run the 380mm rotors?

[@hyde_official]

I went with the most aggressive one, 6 pistons front, and 4-pistons rear. It's one of the best mod i ever done. And rotors are 380mm all round front and rear

[@nyckperez6588]

You were able to fit the rotors on your f30 with no modifications?

[@tenaciousjeebs]

Why is it one of the best mods you've done?

[@shiftdnb]

I don't know if this applies with a M Sport package vehicle but if you're doing this with the M Performance Brake upgrade on another trim like sportline, you need to code the vehicle by adding SPBR to HO-Wort and code the DSC module.

[@deniss5034]

Hi dude! Why do you think SPBR is right option? There are several different options for perfomance brakes that i met: SPBR, SBRE, SPBO. But i have not figure out what is the difference between them.

[@jamdc2000]

Between this channel and Blakes Garage, it is all we need for BMW knowledge

[@lorsamadey2435]

Btw in a stock m-sport calipers you can fit 370mm brake disc. I did it on my 330d without changing anything, 370mm front and 348mm rear.

[@BillyLips10]

Yes, but what size calipers did you have? 340? Or 370/380

[@salt1093]

Hey. Have you done the base brake upgrade video yet?

[@germantechnik3184]

If you look at the OEM cross drill pattern it makes the aftermarket pattern seem like the direction is wrong. I know they labelled but the OEM is going the wrong way then lol

[@10msivana]

At 21:50 the rear discs are difficult to get off because of hand brake / E-brake as you call it in the US. You need to release it before taking the discs off otherwise they'll be a pain the ass

[@justinbuice]

Yes, don't forget to pump the brakes after! Ask how I know 🤣

[@FritzRamos]

Oh no! 😂

[@worlboss2844]

Yes , I know this part like the back of my hand, but sometimes I forget this step when am multi-tasking lol....hey Justin am subscribed to your channel 😁

[@Salpeteroxid]

Yeah me too! Lol

[@cuttthroatperformance2752]

How do you know?. (Since you told me to ask you)

[@justinbuice]

@@cuttthroatperformance2752 I did the brakes on my avenger and forgot to pump them. Put the car in reverse with my foot on the brake (automatic) and it started rolling. Ended up taking out some of my landscaping before the brakes were pumped enough to stop the car 😅

[@Claus2044]

You have to loosen the handbrake screw thru the hole of the brakingpad. After mouting the new brakingpad you to ajust the handbrake again.

[@davidmasekoa7800]

Am new to your channel All they way from south africa look I like how you camera angled everything and your explanation is on point..thanx

[@ildrichaseron]

I never realized how easy this was! I also just bought myself some used F80 calipers recently and installed them on my F22! Also had them powder coated. Thank you so much for the inspiration & giving me the confidence to do this!

[@baronmunchausen645]

What rotor size did you use?

[@dragongamer8253]

i use the 380mm rotors on my m240i f22 and they fit without any Problem even on 18 inch

[@dragongamer8253]

Even im running the Normal m sport calipper with a Spacer its cheaper and works as well

[@ryanreich7635]

He even had the P337 brakes which are LARGER than the junk floating calipers. I had the floating 312mm fronts and swapped to the 340 blue calipers. Love them.

[@PSUMED04]

Did you have to change rotors. I have new CQuence rotors but want you upgrade to M sport calipers

[@Specter_TF141]

This anwsered my bruning questions regarding the brakes on my F30 340i thanks!

[@petermitov8432]

Probably a dumb question but im about to pull the trigger on this , the only thing that im not sure does the rim size matter? My f30 has 18” wheels ?

[@officiallopez2334]

Literally my next upgrade!

[@philippealmeida3281]

WHAT A CHANGE AT BMW CONGRATULATIONS

[@michaelchiekelard929]

Thanks for the professional step by step tutorial. I have a 2015 640i grand coupe and looking to do the M6 break caliper swap with new routers and pads like u have done. My question is do u know if the M6 calipers would fit the 640i and what size disks i would require for the front and rear please ? Thanks again

[@ex-engineer-th]

Sold out for Rotor!!

[@therrandy2506]

Kies, is their any coding of the computer involved for the brake upgrade?

[@gjodexter]

Technically yes, but you don’t have to. On my channel I went thru and did the M Sport big brake kit and the coding. I didn’t notice much of a difference before and after coding it. Good Luck.

[@95lal]

YES

[@ayyyman_]

Every time I watch one of Kies' videos I can already feel my wallet getting lighter lol

[@DearMajesty]

Question...when you pressure the brake system wouldn't that push the pistons inward, hence not requiring you to really pump the brakes?

[@Mike-dr7db]

Why does applying pressure on the brake pedal close off the valves? I expected pressure to be there when you removed the lines?

[@joeyreuser9319]

Hey Bryan. In the rear you torque the new bolts down at 37 fp and the rotate it an EXTRA 90 degrees. In the front I didn't see you rotate it an extra 90 degrees after you torque it at 80fp. Is the extra rotation in the front not necessary? Greets Joey

[@microimation]

Brian I want to update the headlights from my f30 to the new Lci

[@Nakinakpgm]

Must code it and brake fluid flush with ista.

[@suspect3539]

Has anyone done this with 18" wheels (400m)? Any clearance issues between the caliper and wheel? I put some slotted rotors from ECS and Hawk HPS pads on, which is OK for the street, but the factory rotor size is concerning for track use. Thanks for this guide.

[@Kalashnikov444]

Can you use the oem F80 M3 rotors on the F30 or would that not work?

[@Quez5k]

I love tf out this video, great content my brother! I’m thinking of getting the 440 coupe, would this concept be exactly the same?

[@MrZyLInD3r]

correct me if im wrong but the M3 caliper is different to this... the caliper used in the video is the m sport brake kit for i think it was 328i and upwards i mean even the part number is different M3 ends with 63/64 and regular 3 series ends with 69/70

[@burrlap86]

Great video. Do you have a link to the brake calipers? Thank you

[@Phirephox]

How did you not have any air in the line while bleeding? You put new lines on and all which were empty then you even pushed the pistons back and emptied it even more, I would think the beginning of the bleed would be all air?!

[@sajidhasanzada6928]

Hey @KiesMotorsports just wondering if this same set up would fit a normal F30 with the standard brake set up?

[@lfsmith7]

No, it wouldn't. You need larger rotors in the front and rear. 370x30mm in the front and 345x24mm in the rear!

[@marksargent2908]

@@lfsmith7 So, technically, yes, if you upsize the rotors?

[@alcarpuk]

But the callipers just bolt on as I gather all of the knuckle sizes/position are the same?

[@sajidhasanzada6928]

Oh btw can you do a video on gearbox ZF8 auto service as well?!!

[@JusZard]

Yes please

[@abumashfiquzzaman7806]

Thanks this awesome video. Don’t you have to code the new m sport brakes to the car to account for the two piston calipers? Any chance you can do a video on the coding process? I’ve read that you can go without coding but the brakes will feel spongy if you don’t code. This is really the only thing stopping me from doing the retrofit. Have the parts purchased since last year but not good at coding.

[@Prestige.Motors]

Did you find out if we need coding?

[@PureGamingpro]

Some m sport you actually get the blue brake callipers but not the big brake disc

[@EddieMack626]

If you have base model brakes to you have to reprogram the car to read the bigger calipers or no

[@Szilagyicsabaistvan]

11:27 where can i find those pins? My wife 1 series are missing pins, its hoe we bought the car. Brakes are working but you can hear the oads moving and clicking sometimes.😊

[@yakboss1482]

You should sell the stop tech set up as a kit on your website

[@emmanuelhurtadonoblecilla2655]

QUESTION ... I have the normal brake calipers on a 320i ... can I upgrade right away with some used calipers like this? or do I need an adapter to fit them?

[@johnalessi]

I noticed that you only put the brake lube on the back of the pads where they contact the piston. I’ve seen others that recommend also putting the lube on the metal sides of the brakes and on the pins. Is that not necessary?

[@fastanfun]

I wonder if F82 m4 standard steel disk brake and caliper will fit on regular f series? Would it be direct bolt on?

[@niiick7772]

Did everything and got chassis stabilization error after. I think a wheel hit the front caliper and knocked something out of alignment. Going to get the car back on Jack stands, retighten the caliper, and realign the rotor and see if that fixes it. I need that stud conversion 😑

[@shiv135]

Awesome video, wanted to check the M140i comes with the blue calipers does it have the same ones that support 380 mm i.e the f80 ones?

[@visalgunaratne2296]

Will the F80 M3 brakes fit into a F36 428i? The 428 has got standard brakes btw

[@espo8798]

hey Brian you mentioned that the wheel hubs and carrier prevent the ability to use the larger 380mm rotor so im curious if you know whether or not its possible to swap the f80 wheel hub and carrier onto the f30 and will that then allow you to use the larger 380mm rotor? Thanks in advance!

[@aaronsamadi133]

Great video as always and thank you for the hard work

[@TheArmando00]

I have a 2011 BMW 750li Xdrive. Would this process be the same and tools?

[@s9811929]

Kies. do you need to code the big brake into the car using Esys after bleeding?

[@hippystinx1]

what physically on the inside is different between the 340 front brembos and the 370 m brembos. It literally still looks like they are identical.

[@MegaFregel]

Always thought the F30 had the same breaks as the F36. Didn’t know it had smaller disks.🤔

[@islamfawzy6206]

What are the dimensions of the front and rear discs in the modifications

[@babushkasboi8240]

Will those rotors work for the F80 M3 itself? Cheapest brake kit I can find is $8k

[@Unsocial200]

May I ask if you can use the air vacuum bleeder instead?

[@brunosanchez8509]

Hi I seen someone video who coded ( defined coding ) there brakes calipers after doing a retro fit ? Is it necessary or no

[@BadLTD]

Super dope video

[@charlesmckenna6164]

I didn’t see the video listed to add these F80 brake calipers to the stock f30 328. Any chance that was made or I missed it? I would love to add them when I upgrade. Thanks! Love the videos!!!

[@arleylopez8749]

Hi l just got a 2018 bmw 340i and I would like to upgrade the brakes, the brembo brakes from the m240 fit the 340i?

[@ildrichaseron]

Does your handbrake still work fine? I noticed since I upgraded the rear rotors from 300mm to 345mm, the diameter of the top hats also got larger and the E-Brake shoes doesn't seem to reach the new hats anymore.

[@jcarlo331]

Big Salute to you sir 🫡. JC , reporting for duty . So 370 is the biggest I can go on my F32 , can I go bigger than 340 rear ? I will be upgrading the calipers too , M Cal , can’t go 370 disc rear ? For aesthetics , on my M4 ,the huge rear disk looked sick .

[@f32440i]

Notice how he used new bolts to attach the caliper. BMW use one use aluminium bolts from the factory so this is where people can screw up

[@wouc89]

Kies any info on options for upgrading the G20 brakes from the non MSport brakes?

[@drxsiickx]

Isn’t the M logo @28:11 in the wrong direction ?

[@IIlVipeRlII]

Some f30s come with those rotors front and rear from factory right ?

[@Dutch79]

M-Performance brakes have these slotted/dimpled rotors. And always 370mm.

[@harbl2479]

Yes

[@AlexConnor_]

Yes and no. An F30 with the M-Performance brake pack will have blue calipers and look identical to this but has the 340mm BMW/Brembo front calipers instead of the 370mm version from the M3/M4. And 6 cylinder F30s come with the grey 340mm BMW/Brembo front calipers as standard because the engine is heavier.

[@ellechero9490]

Brian, why did you switch from the motul 600 to the motul 660? Just curious. I have the M3 calipers standard for my 435i. Is the 660 recommended for the blue caliper and 600 for the base brakes? Or just preference?

[@ProjectFDD]

Thinking of doing this upgrade. Was told I need to code in the bigger calipers. Is that true? If so about how much would it cost?

[@ScubaDriv3r]

Do you need to upgrade the master cylinder?

[@spdrasr3]

Does this caliper work for a 340i non-M Sport?

[@marckevinnn]

340i with 2 piston rear and 4 piston front calipers. Just did this over the weekend and followed the ebc yellowstuff pad bedding process to mate with the also new zimmerman slotted/dimple rotors. is the air "woosh woosh" type clicking sound normal? hear it exceptionally driving next to cars or barriers with windows down. Also, when i brake firmly i get a hum/drone noise. and no my pads aint on backwards. done plenty brake jobs. its just my first time using these type of rotors.

[@domkraggp9944]

Read about this issue on the forums ,seems it's only with the slotted dimpled rotors.Was contemplating upgrading to the slotted dimpled rotors , but after reading about the clicking sound I'm put off

[@roopeshamin4136]

Brian, I need help. I have a 2018 X3 M40i and need rear brakes and rotors done. My local dealership I think is over the top on price. Where do you recommend getting parts? Or is there a brake upgrade you would recommend?

[@KiesMotorsports]

We offer many brake upgrades or replacements for your car, depending on what you’re looking for! We love to run upgraded slotted rotors and low dust brake pads but also have more OEM style replacements. If you reach out to our team at [e-mail] our guys would be happy to help you out with more details as well as the specific parts and brands we recommend 💪

[@HargunSV]

what are those wheels and specs? they look hella clean

[@liionelbooon]

when buying used M brakes how do we ensure it’s not replica or knock off models?

[@joynerlucas1486]

Where else can I find all of these rotors same size and everything?

[@OscarCastillo1]

I want this. I have the M Performance BBK and I hate how annoying the sound coming from the dimpled rotors. Any noise while driving or applying brakes?

[@arov235]

I had the exact same issue when I upgraded to the M Performance BBK. The issue is with the front Brembo rotors. I fixed it by finding a TSB that provides a remedy of adding these shims. Problem solved. The part number is 34-10-6-887-529

[@alanhu9779]

Alex Were you having ticking sound when cruising normally? I’m very much annoyed by the sound... Do you know what caused the issue and how this shim can solve the problem? Thanks a lot!

[@EvoroPictures]

@@arov235 my guy, you gotta help. The noise has been driving me insane for a bit now. It’s the ticking noise when you get to about 20 mph. What do i need to do with these shims to solve it?

[@1Bigduff]

I didn't see you clean the rotors before install. is that a step you just didn't show or was it not necessary?

[@jcath473]

Hi I just bought rear calipers blue from a 2016 m3 They say p244 Can I use 2016 f80/m3 rear calipers on my 2018 340 I 19inch rims. The f80 M3 calipers had 370mm rotors in the rear original with the m3 car. The stamp says p244 I’ve seen p240 on other research with m performance package The 44 is a bigger piston same size as the m performance Can I use the 345mm rotor on the p244 blue caliper I know they originally came with the M3 and 370 rotors My big question is Can I use the calipers I bought and just use the 345mm rotors

[@leomunoz2422]

is the dsc brake bleed process through ista necessary? thanks

[@Ally.MacMillan]

Not really in this case, the ISTA procedure is good for a full brake fluid service when you flush it all out, but for this it should be fine with just the normal brake bleeding process.

[@tippy35075]

I'd be awesome of you can do the same with a mercedes w212 and fitting AMG brakes

[@EvoroPictures]

Okay so after i put this kit on my car a week later i started getting this noise like a card in a bike spoke. Apparently that’s how all slotted rotors sound? Let me know if that happens to you Brian or if you know a fix for it

[@jp_b58]

Is this the best brake upgrade I can do? I have 18 inch rims and I was looking at 6 piston brembo gt or stop tech.. but not sure if they fit. Does a 370 rotor fit 18s? And are there any 6 piston calipers that fit?

[@colinng9113]

Fits perfectly on 18s, they look awesome.

[@Jim007baker]

u could put some anti seize on the rotor so they wont stick the next time

[@kveezy3233]

Can I put these on a 2015 435i? I just bought one yesterday.

[@Dutch79]

Where can the SS disc retaining bolts be bought? So, OEM's are not SS?

[@surrontvkobuild]

Works Same for 340i

[@VC-id1ho]

can I just upgrade the rear and just use the same rotor size as the front stock M-sport breaks?

[@bloodymarvellous1531]

Brilliant!

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

Sweet vid!

[@mrfisther]

Do these breaks suffer from the hated break squeal?

[@marksargent2908]

Can this upgrade also be done on a standard non-M-Sport 2013 F30 320D? Thanks.

[@shaneWARs1]

What if I have the brembo break up grade will the roters work?