KILL TEAM (2024) - Hivestorm Narrative Mission: The Big Guns Fire

[@dan2691]

That was a cracking batrep, loving this version of KT so far.

[@badnamebob]

Yay, more Jay! Also, I love how the comments spell out the Drowning Pool riff and Google adds the “translate to english” tag! Oh, and a fun bat rep as well. Trifecta of fun!

[@cordial001]

Love this mission. Great game both of you

[@goforitpainting]

Cool battle report.

[@TomK_421]

This mission is incredible

[@danfocke]

@@TomK_421 it really is. I hope we get more narrative missions like this.

[@victorvectorinspector]

i think obscuring causes you to remove one hit and negate crits. heavy cover doesnt do that, heavy cover lets you retain one defense as a success i believe. Also i think accurate lets you get one auto hit, its not a reroll. please correct me if im wrong guys, im also learning the rules :)

[@danfocke]

For Jay's Sgt options, if they can take a plasma pistol, I'd go that route. Make them into another short range gunner. When going up against elites, don't try to get into CC with them until they have been softened up a lot with shooting. Then you can put the last few wounds on them with a charge. And try to hold the sgt back in the first couple turns. Have them push buttons, and position them, and bring the sgt out to fight in the last two turns. Take my advice with a grain of salt though. I'm not the best at kill team.

[@worlds-in-conflict]

Thanks for that! I've been finding it baffling. Apparently for my go forward I've decided on playing Heretic Astartes and not being so squishy!

[@danfocke]

Well, I guess you can do it that way too.

[@jeancouscous]

Unfortunately at the moment the Elite teams (marines of all kind) are god like and way too strong for the other teams to tackle unless there is a huge skill disparity. No matter what he did he would have had a slim chance of beating Legionnaires. Team that does well against elite beside Elite is Inquisition (tricky to play) , Corsairs, Hierotek circle

[@Ranzarok]

Always enjoy watching games with Jay. Any chance you guys might do a Legends of the Old West anytime soon?

[@matthewwilliams294]

love this mission and used it a few time for teaching others to get into kill team. great battle but please reread the accurate rule again as its not a reroll

[@rodneyhall5913]

What was your formula for painting up the Volkus terrain? It looks fantastic.

[@shaynesmithcomedy]

Drowning Pool ooooh wa hahaha

[@Weed_Ghost]

Oooo ah ah ah ah 😈

[@nicopwg]

Nice batrep, I might try this mission, it looks fun. On the rules side there seems to be confusion between obscuring and hard cover. Hard cover is the same as light cover except for determining viable target from vantage against concealed target. Hard cover just gives a cover save, same as light. Obscuring is when heavy terrain is in the way but more than 1" from either models. That makes all crits into normal hits and removes 1 hit. When Chosen is shooting he can keep his crit, target can keep 1 automatic cover save. At 32min same confusion with plasma gunner. At 28 min, reaper chaincannon cannot shoot when counteracting despite the Astartes rule showing to counteract when concealed: you need an engage order to shoot, he has a conceal order. Counteracting is not an activation so you cannot switch to Engage order. Also, you can only counteract once per operative per turn.

[@benares180]

Astartes rule says you can counteract shoot while concealed. What am I missing? Also. His anointed can open doors in demon form.

[@nicopwg]

​@@benares180 Astartes rule says you can shoot twice and you can Counteract while Concealed. They are two distinct statements. Shoot action requires an Engage order, counteracting while concealed does not remove this rule amd since counteracting is not an activation you cannot change the order from concealed to engage. So no shooting while counteracting for Astartes with Concealed order (unless specific weapon rules).

[@benares180]

@ It specifically states you can counteract regardless of your order. Why specify order if they didn’t want this to relate to shooting/fighting? Since shooting and fighting are the only thing that a conceal order can impact? Sooo, pretty sure you can shot and fight on conceal. While counteracting.

[@nicopwg]

@@benares180 fighting is not impacted by Conceal/Engage order, you can Fight while Concealed. Charge is the other action that cannot be done while Concealed. Counteracting does not remove action requirements, it only removes action restrictions such as for example not being able to shoot more than twice (for Astartes): when counteracting you can shoot a third time even if you have already shot twice this turning point, or you can Reposition again even if you have already Repositioned this turning point etc. But it does not remove the requirement that to Shoot you need to have an Engage Order, that is a stated requirement under the action "shoot". This is the same requirement as not being able to Shoot while within engagement range of an enemy operative: counteracting does not give you the right to Shoot while within engagement range of an enemy operative, that is exactly the same as not giving you the right to shoot while you have a Conceal Order. They're literally in the same sentence in the Shoot action. And you cannot change your Order when counteracting as it is not an activation (you can only change the Order at the beginning of an Operative's activation).

[@orkusdorkusmaximus]

did you get the new nurgle set ?

[@jedhayes9267]

ACCURATE IS AN AUTO HIT :)))