Kill Team Starter Set Unboxing and Review - Recruit Edition!

[@GlassHalfDead]

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[@KrullMaestaren]

This is probably the most reasonable box from GW that I have seen in a very long time.

[@marcocardoso8745]

This is actually the most "Starter Box" Starter Box I even remember from GW. Low Key entry point, actually all necessary Rules, enough models to play a decent Game and even some Terrain chucked in. And If you See the prices of Krieg + Kommandos + that Accessoires Set with gauges, Markers, Rules and barricades, the Deal does get even better. That amount of value is absolutely out of character for current GW and seems Like a step in the right direction and, which might be more important, two other things: 1) GW reinforces their commitment to KT and their efforts to establish it in the growing skirmish market as a dominant system. 2) someone there is actually analysing the market, customer behaviour and expectations and coming up with at least some correct assumptions. So...color me intrigued.

[@DestructoDino]

When I got into Warhammer a few years ago I didn’t know kill team existed and I dreaded buying loads of models for an army so I bought a start collecting seraphon and then start collecting skinks. I thought it was a decent AoS army then discovered kill team. My last two purchases (other than paints) have been this box so me and my dad could learn it and then T’au pathfinders as I love the T’au. And even though there isn’t enough terrain for a proper game we just made our own

[@hammanhouse]

I am exceptionally happy that they decided to do the recruit edition book. When I got into 40k 8th I loved the small little book that walked you through the game step by step. It was the Start of COVID lockdowns when I got it and I had no one who knew how to play the game and it was decent fun! Hopefully these starter kits will help more new players for getting into the game!

[@namewastaken360]

I love the prominence of the Ork with beanie on the front of the box too!

[@manofaction1807]

Put this on your calendar- THIS is a real starter set. Great Price for the value. Miniatures worth the price Enough to actually get some points on the table that you can play a game with. Well done, GW. Even as a add on for Octarus, this is a great buy.

[@nikolausnikolausnikolaus]

1:17 Yeah... That's how they got me and a friend of mine to buy it. Our first game took us almost 10 hours because we were constantly looking up rules. 😅 I definitely don't regret the purchase though even if it did kind of delay the completion of my largely unbuilt Chaos Knight army indefinitely.

[@GamingOnTheGo]

Brilliant video! I got this for my birthday as a treat to myself a few weeks ago but wanted it to play with the kids to get them into the hobby.

[@niallcampbell]

My son (6yo) and I have been looking to get into a new box set - we’ve played through the 40K recruit edition. I was considering Necromunda but it seems complicated for him, this with the recruit edition style rules seems like it might be ideal!

[@johnbeaudoin7820]

I’ve got most of that stuff from the Octarius box, but that Recruit manual could be useful as a teaching aid; I may look for that to pop up on eBay.

[@ger5956]

Great advice 👍🏻 it’s hard to argue with any of your points, very well thought out. I bought Octarus and I’m extremely tempted to get a copy or two of this box to bulk up forces to use in big 40k. Keep up the awesome work dude. 👍🏻

[@101Phase]

05:10 I was under the impression that most modern GW sprues are placed using an algorithm to minimise wasted space, so I guess we should blame the computer program they used lol

[@Serpsor]

That's not the main problem. It would be annoying but manageable if the parts were numbered sequentially based on sprue, rather than model. The instructions would be "use parts 1, 2, 20 and 38" but it would at least give you an idea which sprues to find the pieces. As it is, the instructions are "use parts 1, 2, 3 and 4" but neglect to tell you that the parts are sprinkled across three sprues in random places.

[@stefanradu-hq7wb]

@@Serpsor This was the most difficult GW kit I ever had. Searching for pieces was realy anoying. But they are great models. And so many left over bits :) .

[@Serpsor]

I just saw the Australian pricing. Wow, such value, so wholesome pricing.

[@GlassHalfDead]

Oh god. I'm sure it's still OUTRAGEOUS?

[@Serpsor]

@@GlassHalfDead below 40% of Octarius price, so yeah, very inexpensive

[@GlassHalfDead]

@@Serpsor I legit thought you were being sarcastic :P

[@Serpsor]

@@GlassHalfDead 100% truth - it's noteworthy that 65GBP converted to AUD is within a couple of dollars of the aussie retail price, so there is no Australia Surcharge. Maybe that's why it's so shocking

[@TheDigitalThreat]

I wouldnt say value, but more acceptable priced tiny hunks of pretty plastic. I know they got overhead... but its still just molded plastic! It just seems like a super value because everything else is usually ridiculously overpriced~

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Circle Hello! A friend & I divvied up the Octarius set, so this is the perfect opportunity to fill in the gaps.

[@namewastaken360]

I bought Octarius but I liked the Orks so much I started an Ork army and I would like to expand my Veteran Guardsmen to the full 20. So very tempted to pick this up.

[@GlassHalfDead]

Then this is a complete no brainer!

[@namewastaken360]

@@GlassHalfDead You would think so, but my wife thinks I should paint the models I already have first...

[@eljefedeguerra1343]

Totally worth the plastic. The orky terrain two ten man units. I have Ocktsrius and I’d still by this once or twice if I could. Trying to build a big 40K ork table as will as kill team boards. Great way to do that and bolster armies and stick up in dice sand tokens. Spread books around. Good stuff. Hope your doing all right glass. Keepin the ol chin up? We gotta look after each other we are a community

[@DJChipsandGarlic]

I was looking at buying the guard unit to give my Astra militarum a bit of variation. My son collects orks so I could be worth buying this

[@mikeoneil1370]

Very tempted to buy this box after your review, thanks! Did you ever make the "how to build" vet guard video? I couldn't find it

[@bolterboy]

Same! How did you build yours? Or did you find a video?

[@bradp6452]

Good to see a reasonable price point for something. Still very displeased with the quality and price for dungeonbowl last year. So what rules for the teams are missing. Guard missing orders, and like artillery support, plus the bonus secondary choices. Orks missing charge from conceal. Do they still have their ploys and equipment in this new book? Seems like the guard are in trouble with this terrain and rules set even worse than octarius.

[@donc.7465]

I already have the Octarius box set, but I’m ordering this as well to get the extra models. It’s less than buying the models separately, plus I get some extra scatter terrain, dice, tokens, and a “pocket sized” manual. Win-win.

[@thebattleofpelennorfieldsp6081]

I got mine in the mail yesterday. I think it is worth it for the tokens as a new player and the sprues.

[@robharris5317]

Great video , totally agree with all points mentioned, great value product and all you need to play a brilliant kill team game, nice one glass!!👊👌

[@Renigade16]

So the drop down pics of random games confused the hell outta me lol 0:31

[@GlassHalfDead]

I was talking about price and those were prices of competing games! I realise it wasn't well calle dout in the audio though.

[@Renigade16]

@@GlassHalfDead Ah! Okay okay I got you. That's actually helpful to convince my friends

[@artortiz3027]

Still an awesome value a year after this video. US$85 for the box. Vet Guard and Commando boxes separately? US$102 total at least!! Plus accessories! Plus books! I have Octarius already and I'm still leaning toward this for army building alone

[@RoyalPieMaker]

My friend and I want to get into Kill Team. He just bought Into the Dark box set. I was thinking of picking up the starter box so we’d each have two teams to play. Should I get the compendium too if I plan on playing against his guys? It seems like the recruit rules are fine if playing orks vs vets but how does it work against other kill teams?

[@GlassHalfDead]

As you seem open to playing the "full" teams, I'd say go with the starter box. You'll have 4 full spec teams between the two of you, and honestly that's A LOT to learn. And then if you find yourself just loving the aesthetic of a compendium team, just use waha for those rules. Honestly, waha is a great resource in general!

[@RoyalPieMaker]

@@GlassHalfDead awesome thanks! I found the Waha wiki right after your video so I went ahead and got the starter set. Cheers!

[@SaschaKleiber]

Thinking about getting into this game. Why would I need another set of Veterans? Didnt understand that part...

[@GlassHalfDead]

Oh right. Can't remember what I said in the video, but you do NOT need 2 boxes of Vet Guard to just play the team. However, if you want to take the team to tournaments, a second box would be good as you can build additional specialist options. To just jump in and play the game, one box is fine :)

[@taskendeer]

If i want to start 40K as a hobby and begin my army for kill team, is it completely its own thing and does committing to kill team limit me from using those same resources to other game modes a lot? I want to begin but start off with a more minimal collection and gameplay, so I'm wondering if I should start with kill team or perhaps the 500 point combat patrol army. What is the best, easy and minimal way to get into it?

[@sonicwingnut]

Seems alright but I kinda looked at this then the Octarius set and thought, yeah will probs go with that instead. Just for a shitload of terrain and the extra rules and stuff.

[@GlassHalfDead]

Totally fair! I think if you want the terrain and not having to rely on digital rules then yeah Octarius is the way to go.

[@DylanHussey-cq3rc]

I just got it for $100 on the dot because the box was damaged. Nothing was lost but in shipping the box was damaged to the hobby shop so yippee.

[@DJChipsandGarlic]

We bought it on Sunday, the minis where a bit finicky to build. Especially with the build numbers in random places 🥴. Should be starting the tutorial games soon. Also I have a ton of scenery from the Warhammer conquest magazine which is mostly heavy scenery

[@JuggernautDE]

Did u actually make an advice Video how to build the Veterans? I cant find it...

[@andreweckert2949]

I got Octarius as my first foray into Kill Team but am thinking this might be good for the Recruit book (as a new player), extra terrain, and to have all mini options. Would love a video on how to optimize kill team options if you have this and octarius (I think you mentioned you were considering this, so this is my vote for that). I still have to put Kill Team together, but I am really just trying to create a collection that gives room for variety in my games. I will only be playing at home with my son and so I am fielding both kill teams.

[@michatomaszewski9388]

I mean with that kind of terrain of course it will take 30 minutes. Good Luck playing against kommandos without any vantage point

[@egorrotneck5022]

So is this like compendium kommando's and veteran guardsmen? Seems a bit cheeky not including the full faction rules unless they are planning on a two tier game. Unless I am miss understanding which is quite possible

[@GlassHalfDead]

No, no, no. This is just them not giving you the full rules so that you still need to buy the rules. But obviously those can be found online, so... consider that!

[@bolterboy]

But how should I build my vet guard? New player here 😅

[@gustavosmith7648]

I missed the double hello, glad it came back for this video ☺️

[@fullarmourtracksuit4023]

I’m excited to get this.

[@hoshi314]

to be honest even if i don't like the vet guards or kommandos i still would recommend this just for the other stuff aside it

[@DiegoVallejoDev]

I just bought this box, what extra minis should I get for the kriegs?

[@GlassHalfDead]

Krieg can be played as a 10 man team no problem. But they are stronger if you take 4 additional troopers. This can mean buying a second box of krieg and just building 4 extra troops (plus any other specialists you didn't build from the first box), or just proxying any regular model that's in a 25mm base. It doesn't really have to be krieg!

[@DiegoVallejoDev]

@@GlassHalfDead any recommendation of what specialist should I build with the first box?

[@Feenicks30]

Could you explain exactly why you don't get enough guardsmen here and if you get the same sprues as in the octarius box?

[@eriond25]

its a wonderfull box. I only miss a default building settings for absolute beginners. Do you know where i can find a good settings to build the teams?

[@GlassHalfDead]

Kommandos are easy, just take 1 of each specialist. Done! Vet Guard have more specialists, but honestly, take whatever you want, they all have their uses. I would recommend having the sniper, spotter, comms, and medic. The others can be whatever you want. Plasma gunner is always useful!

[@eriond25]

@@GlassHalfDead Thanks for the answer! Its very usefull. For Vet guard i've found a winner build from ITC. + LEADER + SERGEANT VETERAN W/ PISTOL AND MELEE WEAPON: PLASMA PISTOL, POWER WEAPON + OPERATIVE + BRUISER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN, TRENCH CLUB COMMS VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN CONFIDANT VETERAN W/ PISTOL AND CHAINSWORD: BOLT PISTOL, CHAINSWORD DEMOLITION VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN, REMOTE MINE GUNNER VETERAN W/ FLAMER: BAYONET, FLAMER GUNNER VETERAN W/ GRENADE LAUNCHER: BAYONET, GRENADE LAUNCHER GUNNER VETERAN W/ MELTAGUN: BAYONET, MELTAGUN GUNNER VETERAN W/ PLASMA GUN: BAYONET, PLASMA GUN HARDENED VETERAN: BAYONET, BIONIC ARM, LASGUN MEDIC VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN SNIPER VETERAN: BAYONET, LONG-LAS SPOTTER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN, MORTAR BARRAGE TROOPER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN TROOPER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN TROOPER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN TROOPER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN TROOPER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN TROOPER VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN ZEALOT VETERAN: BAYONET, LASGUN source: www.lavozdehorus.com/fernando-marcos-ace-se-corona-como-ganador-de-lvo-y-el-ranking-itc-de-kill-team/

[@jonaspotthoff9317]

I would love to get a closer look on that Recruit Manual... It really sound like an good way to teach the basics or get someone new into Tabletop :-)

[@samuraijak6605]

What’s the best source for the rules of not interested in either team?

[@GlassHalfDead]

I mean, I'd suggest online tbh. But if you want a physical copy then they do just sell the core rulebook separately! But with this releasing I'd suggest ebay!

[@brunneng38]

The designed those sprues like that out of some theory that it somehow deters Recasters. Which it in no way does.

[@runningoutofnames3CS]

I was actually starting to get excited until I remembered that I need to build and paint these first 💀

[@mattcheeseman1]

As a new player, to kill team, which is best this or octarious with all that terrain?

[@GlassHalfDead]

I mean... I kind of said it in the video. If you want that terrain, then pick up the Octarius box if you can still find it. It's a good set of terrain that will give you many games of kill team. It's the set that the game is playtested on, so can't go wrong! But if you're open to other stuff, then I'd say keep it cheap and go for the Starter Box. We know we've got more terrain kits coming every 3 months, so just wait for one of those that you like to release!

[@colinmack8655]

There is a lot more terrain in deadzone though so you can play in 3d… and it is cheaper stateside than buying from gw. So you still need an additional book… yeah no.

[@GlassHalfDead]

I knew you wouldn't like that :P

[@tomryan3768]

Deadzone is a great game that's not popular. Killteam is a good game that's very popular. If you have a DZ group then good for you.

[@enr1l]

Yesterday i went to my local warhammer shop to buy this starter set and instead i left the shop with the octarius set (last copy that was ready to be sent back at the GW factory), i mean cmon those barricades are quite sad compared to the octarius scenario

[@franklinmckenzie8856]

I just bought it in an auction for $22!

[@majortom7186]

MCP is probably the best comparison game. MCP is slightly better value as you don’t need to buy an extra box and cards on top of the starter. The scenery included is roughly equivalent as both seem to have about half what you’d want for full on play. The MCP rules are obviously better than the Kill Team rules, but differences in local scene aside it’s probably easier to find people who either already play or who are interested in trying it. In the end it would probably come down to do you prefer the Marvel or 40K IP. For a GW starter that’s pretty amazing.

[@marcocardoso8745]

I have to say, I would be highly interested in MCP but the prices are, at least in my Neck of the Woods, ridiculous even compared to GW.

[@colinmack8655]

What is wrong with deadzone 3.0? It is a valid game.

[@majortom7186]

@@marcocardoso8745 in the UK the prices compare very favourably with GW. £70 to £80 for a starter with two complete teams that can be used to make a decent competitive roster, then between £15 and about £60 per unit, with the £40 units being roughly equivalent of the baby Imperial Knights. I guess the cheaper units generally coming in boxes with two units in can make it less attractive, but that’s X-Wing money rather than 40K money. I suppose you could argue that for Kill Team the £30 to £40 boxes have five or ten units in, but in terms of force orgs for both games boxes are roughly equivalent I think.

[@majortom7186]

@@colinmack8655 I’m sure it is if there’s any sort of local scene. The fact that I t doesn’t figure on the ICv2 lists so that doesn’t speak to a wide player base, and MCP has been above AoS in that measure. Opportunity to play is very much part of the value proposition IMO. Is there a Deadzone tournament scene?

[@tomryan3768]

MCP is a bit busy* but the prices are not that bad for the scale of the game. *I like the game but set up is overly complex as is 'deck/force building'

[@ganzgrosseskino]

The marvels of anchoring - making the single products crazy expensive, any discount will make it seem valuable until you take a step back and break down the price itself. Sad to see that even horde armies have boxes for standard troops that are just too expensive (Cadia, Krieg, the new Ork Boyz...)

[@dlear85]

Im looking to start 40k and was debating kill team and this video has made me even more confused lol

[@GlassHalfDead]

What exactly do you want to know, out of curiosity?

[@dlear85]

@@GlassHalfDead I have the recruit box all painted and played the scenarios but don't know what to do next. I was thinking kill team but there are 5 sets I have seen so far and I'm not sure if they are compatible or if you can just buy a "kill team" without knowing all the technical things

[@GlassHalfDead]

@@dlear85 so I'm planning to do a new "how to get started in kill team" video so this is useful, thank you. To clarify, you can just buy any kill team you want, it doesn't have to come in a set or anything. I'd say find a box with kill team branded models and buy it! However the rules for those models will be an additional purchase (or easily found online, but some want the physical book!)

[@PMMagro]

Auto buy! I need more Krieghounds and I love the Ork commandoes...

[@Ghostpanzer]

Curious what’s the difference between the octarious box and the starter box ?

[@ivansmirnov7342]

It’s a little too late, but this starter set while being a good value lacks not only terrain but also lacks Tac ops cards. And you need those for a proper match if you want to stick to the rules 100%. You get those in the Octarius set. Octarius comes with an Octarius book instead of the recruit one. The recruit one contains data sheets for the units and tutorial missions. Octarius book has full rules for both factions (equipment, strategic and tactical ploys, etc.). It has full set of missions that could be played individually or as a part of a big Octarius narrative campaign. If you are not sure if you want to spend big money on kill team yet - go for this starter set. Full Octarius terrain can be bought separately. Faction rules can be easily found online (God bless wahapedia). So really the only thing you are missing out on is the cards. Which again could be bought separately but the basic starter plus terrain already cost the same as Octarius box so this way you will pay more. You could start with the basic starter and then expand with Octarius. The terrain is nice. Cards. Additional models to build all the Krieg and Kommando options (the boyz are fine as is but the nob has two weapon options and both can be useful against different teams). I personally bought Octarius and now want to buy the basic starter for the minis.

[@flipnutdodad8841]

If you can get the octarious set do it. You won't be upset. I got mine for 164 bucks.

[@insecuristeeze5790]

Great stuff, but the missing rules bit is nonsense. Worth a buy and a pdf of the real rules when you're ready to use them. I'll go sailing before I buy a second book for the proper rules for the models I purchased.

[@And-c7n]

They have to compete with Star Wars legion in Aust it’s about the same price with no codex

[@GlassHalfDead]

That's fair. Legion is a good game at a good price!

[@jasonirwin4799]

Not a very fair comparison since SW Legion provides up-to-date rules for free on the official website.

[@And-c7n]

@@jasonirwin4799 So which is the winner? Not sure from your comment.

[@jasonirwin4799]

@@And-c7n My comment wasn't intended to claim a winner or loser. I was simply pointing out that the comparison isn't exactly apples-to-apples. I don't see Legion not including a rule book (or "codex") as a negative given the living ruleset is free to all.

[@And-c7n]

@@jasonirwin4799 okay. Fair enough. Thankyou

[@uaputte]

But its hard to say get this box if you alredy have the 2 other boxes. unless you need more of the same.

[@gratisninja9691]

I agree

[@jarenalfred66]

Jokes on us, the ork sprue is so terribly coordinated because whoever set up the sprues was a big lore guy and knows orks have no logic to them

[@rodinam1887]

i agree with u on the topic ^^

[@JohnnyLeyenda]

I am honestly surprised at the value of the box. Given the separate Kommando and Krieg boxes are fairly pricey, I am thinking of getting this box for the Kriegs only and maybe sell the rest.

[@TheDigitalThreat]

They really need to do a better job with their labeling products like this. As a new player/collector its so fucking confusing with all these box sets. They toss into the mix Starter sets like this, Recruit edition; and I assume they will like with regular 40k Starter box have Elite and or command versions as well. Just browsing the internet to see what will be available is a land mine of confusion as they are all labeled the same "Kill Team Starter Set" and thats the only title on the box and web listings, yet the contents and prices are radically different. For example " Warhammer 40K : Kill Team Starter Set $136.00" which has Adeptus Astartes and T’au Empire. Is this the elite? Is this the same thing with different troops? ffs GW.... Only difference I can see in the labeling is the image on the front of box is different, everything else identical - except price being nearly doubled..... So how many different army/sets will there be? Why is one $80-90 USD and the other $160....

[@TheDigitalThreat]

well figured out part of my confusion; the other sets are older/out of print. But I still dont know whats up with the "Recruit Edition" aspect. Will their also be Elite, Command etc versions? Why label the book recruit if its the only new box?

[@GlassHalfDead]

I think that's fair. The starter sets for 40k are quite the range. But for KT, this will be the only actual Starter Set now that the intro box of Octarius is gone. The other boxes are not starter sets as they do not contain the core rules or anything from the essentials kit.

[@iggythegreat5061]

You can't even play with this, you don't have the TacOpsCards in the set.

[@greywulfslair]

Around £52 from a third party retailer such as Wayland Games. This is an absolute bargain.

[@olivermohr6829]

You save 139$ cad when buying this

[@alexneal9534]

Waving hand format returns. Takes me back to the release of old(good) kill team. Nice review thank you muchly.

[@GlassHalfDead]

I wish I could find more things to unbox just so I could have the hand modelling channel!

[@TheYjmfan]

I can get this at 49.00

[@GlassHalfDead]

Yup, that's what I can get it at from Darksphere in the UK. It's a well priced box!

[@metalblizzard6024]

Sub

[@grahambradley8870]

Yuk. The weview is disgwusting

[@theanimaster]

I wonder if the Core Rules in this set have all the errata’d rules? My money is it doesn’t - much like how GW didn’t bother to print the updated rules in 2018KT version 2 starter set (but they replaced all the purrrty picturrrz)

[@majortom7186]

Sadly the book will have been sent to the printers long before the errata were compiled.

[@theanimaster]

Good price point. This will allow me to get another set of Krieg and Orks to build out all the options… oh, and an in-store GW coin! I have to applaud GW’s marketing strategy here: it’s good for certain Octarius adopters and it’s good for beginners - get them hooked and they’ll be buying the expansions and terrain in no time.