Killed from too much Starting Fluid ---Old Toro Snowblower Saved

One of the best snowblowers ever made gets a second chance at life.
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After Thoughts about the Video: Fixing this cost me $6.37. I actually picked this up from a diy guy who gave up on it(and another snowblower). He cleaned the carb and it still wouldn't start, so threw in the towel. I assume the previous owner killed it via starting fluid. These machines are way over built by today standards and are nearly 3x as thick steel. They take repowering with new/much larger engines amazing and there is no reason any one of these should ever be tossed out for a "new" machine. Not that it needs repowering as TECUMSEH is the best/easiest starting cold weather engine ever made. This being a points machine scares people but I find points rarely go bad and just need cleaning every decade or so.
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[@flatlinesup]

Few things: Thanks for caring enough to turn down the sound of loud engines/tools etc. It's much appreciated to headphone users and a lot of (even veteran) youtubers don't consider it. Thank you for taking the time to film/share your experience and knowledge. Love that silly ass dog. Ginger is awesome.

[@sixtyfiveford]

No problem. I edit the video without headphones and then do one final watch through with headphones to try and keep an even volume.

[@zumbazumba1]

@@sixtyfiveford On my other channel i usualy put a 5s warning if people wanna hear recorded volume.If it is not important i lower the volume. So many assholes just leave it as it is and it takes like 5 s of editing .

[@steedandersen]

Those old Toro's were solid machines and last forever.

[@ls2005019227]

Still one of the best channels for knowledge on YT- Thanks Moe!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks Robert.

[@yodasbff3395]

Good video. 👍 My 1970s 2 stroke Toro snow blower would have corrosion on the points almost every year, I finally replaced the points with a little electronic module I got at the hardware store, no problems for the last 30 years. Ginger has a great personality, she is so loveable. 😍

[@sixtyfiveford]

The little points eliminator boxes are great. I used to put those in from time to time. I found the trick to points is they need to stay dry/no humidity. So I make sure the gasket is air tight and generally I get 10years. However I do live in a relatively humid free place.

[@aaronpowell4885]

Gotta love bringing old equipment back to life👍🏻 by the time the first owner gives up on it, it's often just getting broke in!

[@russellstephan6844]

I bought a sitting-for-years Kawasaki KLR250 dual-sport dirt/street motorcycle. The carburetor was gummed up I knew for sure. But sometimes, if you can get them started and running long enough to get warm, they clean themselves up. And that's what I tried to do with starting fluid... The hard knocking should have been a big clue for me to go easier on the speed-up-the-warming process. Anywho, the warm-up didn't help and I ended up pulling the carb for disassembly an a proper cleaning. Once back together, it ran perfectly. Although, during freeway rides I was getting a hell of a lot of oil in the airbox from blow-by. If I ran high speed long enough, I'd lose enough oil there was a risk of emptying the crankcase... Great! I pull the head and jug. I can't seem to find anything. Then, I spot it! I cracked one of the skirt channels between the rings. A section of piston aluminum was still in there like a perfect puzzle piece. While everything was out, I had the jug bored in addition to installing a larger piston. I had fun on that bike for a couple of seasons until it ended up in a deep mud hole swamping the entire engine. I roached everything trying to ride it home due to water intrusion to the crankcase. I sold the abused machine as a chassis-only purchase. ------ I don't use starter fluid anymore... One Summer I rode the bicycle around the neighborhood on trash day and cut off the propane BBQ grill bottle regulators. With a quick-disconnect on the regulator hose, I can now plug in compressed air blow nozzles an deliver propane as starting fluid. The setup works perfectly. Search KZbin for "starting fluid on steroids" for my video.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Great story. I have a small diesel in right now that they guy blew the top of the piston off with too much starting fluid. It can be a lifesaver but also a killer.

[@COSpacegunner]

I have the same Toro 521, but the original engine crapped out several years ago, so I replaced it with a Harbor Freight 6.5 HP engine. It has run great since. I serviced the drive/clutch and augers two years ago. Used it for the first time this season last week. Started on the second pull and continued to launch snow about 30'. If the stock engine dies, the HF engines are < $150 when on sale. The only thing that needs to be modified is the crank shaft that rotates the discharge chute. I cut a section out to clear the valve cover and clamped on a section of high-temperature hose that flexes around the cover. The next modification I plan to make is to extend the second-stage impeller blades with thick rubber-like (from thick mud flaps or conveyor belt material) "wipers" to close the gaps between the blade and second-stage wall. Lastly, the bottom scraping blade and side risers are still available online. I got a replacement set, plus a spare set.

[@robertknight4672]

Why did the same on a 521 that I got for free. I believe mine is a much later model the original engine had a black shroud and black gas tank that did not have points. Mine also had pneumatic tires and a taller chute..

[@silvergrizzly316]

There's nothing you can't fix my friend!!! AWESOME STUFF 👍👍

[@jasondk5127]

Awesome job! I haven't purchased a snow blower, lawnmower, weed whip in 25 years! Thanks for showing the future generations how to fix things, it's priceless!

[@SteveStoltz]

I prefer these over the newer ones, everything is metal and there isn't a lot to break. Mine always starts on the 1st or second pull even after sitting over the summer.

[@haneyoakie14]

Nice! I love the old equipment. Tecumseh powered snowblowers are the best. That is what Tecumseh did best, imho. They made lawnmower engines for Craftsman, but their money maker was the 5 & 8 HP Snowblower engines. Easy to work on, easy to fix.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I'm a huge fan of the Tecumseh snowblower engines but somehow I dislike their lawnmower engines. I think they bid for contracts and had to cut corners to get the jobs. And it's just the opposite with Briggs as I hate a snowblower with a Briggs engine.

[@haneyoakie14]

@@sixtyfiveford I think they built lawnmower engines just to keep their people employed in the off season from making snowblower engines. I do have a Monster od a Snowbird 11/33 with a Briggs 25 CID on it that I love. But my overall favorite to work on is the HS 50.

[@JOEZEP54]

I find these between free to $100. Sometime they are even running. The usual repair is just a carb cleaning, replacing starter rope, sometime a stuck valve. Did not have any with a blown head gasket yet. I get many craftsman / Briggs engines with blown heads. I like TECUMSEH engines. A lot of whining on line about them but I will take them in all day long. Stay well, Joe Z

[@colehara]

Those old Toro's with the drum style auger we're great machines. I had an 8-24 that lasted me 30 years.

[@robertknight4672]

I have a 521 that but then decided to swap that this come so for the Predator 212 engine from Harbor Freight. Having an opportunity to really try it's it since been such a mild winter where I live this year.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Great machines. I would probably swap a 3, 4 or possibly 5hp for a 212cc Chinese clone but not an 8hp.

[@jimanderson4495]

Thanks for saving this “iron” from the landfill . Good job

[@amycyclenut]

Damn I needed that thing when I lived in Denver a few years ago! I shoveled so much sidewalk snow, for myself and for my elderly neighbor. Guess it helped keep me in shape, lol.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Definitely a good workout shoveling snow!

[@z06rcr]

I love my 25 year old Toro 521!!! Never let’s me down.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Great machine

[@RichardGreco]

Good video! It would be great if you could do a video (or multiple) on carburetor operation and maintenance. What were you looking for when you dismantled it? Actually videos on various aspects of small engines operation and maintenance would be fantastic.

[@Hellsong89]

Also jetting and carb adjustment. That shit is black magic for me.

[@c.j.taylor7325]

He does have an old video of carb cleaning and adjusting. Search his KZbin name and carburetor and it should come up. That's where I learned how to clean them

[@1waukesha]

Smarter every day does a really awesome carburetor video. Its pretty crazy to see how his clear model works in slow motion!

[@assassinlexx1993]

Older snowblower take off the sparkplug cap so it doesn't get burn. Heat the head up with a propane torch. Just don't shoot the flame to the gas tank or you going to have a bad day. This i find helpful for starting on really cold weather.

[@mishman]

Love the channel! So much great information

[@dickham]

Second time you saved my old snowblower. This time with the starter cord trick and the first time adding rubber wipers to the Main propeller. Thanks

[@sixtyfiveford]

Excellent!

[@GuildOfCalamity]

Love the "will it run" videos.

[@805ROADKING]

300K!! Well deserved Bud!!☻

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey thanks

[@strongandco]

Your channel is an encyclopedia of practical knowledge but it's the experience that you share that is priceless. Also, I looked at those Vessel impact drivers a few years back and was unsure but seeing as you seem to be finding them useful, I've put an order in 😀

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks. Those Vessel screwdrivers grip Phillips head screws better than any other brand of screwdriver I've ever used.

[@marvinheemeyer9768]

Crazy story but back in the early 70's while in grade school, I mail ordered a couple of hand impacts from JC Whitney on a BOGO sale, gave the other to my dad for Christmas. JCW back then, besides sending a money order along with mailing the order form, did not list ANY brand names of their products in their catalog at that time (later they obviously did). It was decades later when I realised that the hand impact that I still own today, was a quality Vessel brand!

[@richardclifton4120]

I bought a new WeedEater push mower with a Briggs years ago and it never would stay up to speed when hitting high grass. Come to find out the head gasket was never installed by the manufacturer. It still starts on one pull since I put one on. I guess it was assembled on a Monday. 😀 Ginger doesn't attack that snow like she does the water hose.

[@sixtyfiveford]

That's funny!

[@roselima1741]

I love how you show the bare minimum to get a engine back to service. You have help to stop me from trying to rebuild a engine that only needed a carb flushing. Thank you for the street smarts to combat my fancy book learning. Take care

[@transmitterguy478]

You didn't install the conveyor belt pieces on the thrower blades, that works sweet! Great vijeo as always.

[@sixtyfiveford]

On these cheap snowblowers I'm just going to sell I rarely do it. Why? because generally the people who buy them are lazy and can't care for anything. This will be in disrepair in 2 season from now from lack of care.

[@Bigtwin88]

I love finding stuff like that on the side of the road.....Great Video.....Thanks....

[@Ken_in_Wisconsin]

Thank you. I always enjoy your videos.

[@skippylippy547]

He made that look SOoooooo easy and simple!

[@wayneo7307]

Hi Moe , Nice Repair Job ! Great Tip and Instructional Video .

[@vennic]

Just picked up a "universal" UTV plow.... You're my inspiration to make it work anyway!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome.

[@DAS-Videos]

Another machine brought back to life, love these videos.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks.

[@TheShadeTreeFixitMan]

Good one Moe! I always enjoyed working on snowblowers back in MN, but no need down here in TN.

[@rodneybrand8521]

Hey Moe...I've seen either destroy small engines a few times..even had one that cracked the block...yep i did it to my old 3 1/2..briggs i was young and didn't know better..lol..Techcumsen used to make very good engines..then they got cheaply made..i don't think they make them anymore..looks like Ginger was having a blast ..lol.. See you on the next one Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@sixtyfiveford]

Cracked block... That's fun. Yeah, around 2000 was the last year for the Tecumseh.

[@rhysjones4988]

My neighbor had a old Craftsman snowblower that was pitiful. Only half of the augur turned, and one day it wouldn't start after a storm. I brought a heavy extension cord and a heat gun, and a nut and bolt. I put the bolt through the augur, pulled the sparkplug boot and heated the head for 45 seconds. It started up.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Nice!

[@prostreetgsxr]

Awesome video! That is a nice machine and you are one smart dude!!

[@timdaniels2100]

Excellent ! Thanks. I think ur dog likes the new toy.

[@theidahodian4518]

Another excellent rejuvenation.

[@jussiketels151]

Really good job you made! The trick with the starter rope is unpayable! Thanks for it! Ginger has a new toy and also a snow shower machine 😂😂😂

[@fraydnot]

Gotta love free! Thanks for the upload

[@ZeldaNumber17]

I got the same Milwaukee shorty. My favorite tool of all time

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

Nice save and you make it look so easy. Not much call for snow blowers here in Australia. 😂😂

[@JCcanU]

Not bad , Its running and blowing . Nice job

[@samiam247]

Great snag, another bulletproof tecumseh, my tecumseh lawnmower is over 40 years old and just keeps going, only problem in 40+ years is a dead primer bulb, my neighbor gave me an MTD snow blower the sheet metal is so thin it must weigh half of what the toro weighs.

[@LeroyBraun]

Got an old tiller for very cheap. They couldn't get it to rev up. Older Briggs and Stratton 5 HP with the foam in the air filter. The foam had pushed down through and was stopping the throttle from turning. Replaced foam. Works great. Easiest fix yet.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Great fix.

[@Buddycoop1]

You've helped me many times. Would you someday show how to wrap a new spring on a Toro Briggs 8- 12 hp snowblower starter ? Have watched other videos doing that but my spring always blows apart before getting the cover on.

[@resellpanda88]

Great video as always. Picked up this same model a few years back. Has been solid everytime I use it. Just need to learn how to drive it better so it doesn't stall on me.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Right on!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

God save and I gave up on fooling with Tecumseh engines a while back. Briggs for me and maybe a Kohler and Kawasaki that you don't really have to mess with and glad Ginger is taking the snowball slinger in stride! God Bless!

[@89G]

Great stuff.... I learned a couple things on this video. Never had to mess with spark on one of these. It's almost always a carb issue.

[@sixtyfiveford]

It's always carb.

[@89G]

@@sixtyfiveford way worse now that we have corn in it, lol.

[@stevenlatham4397]

300k, we’ll deserved.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks Steven.

[@chryco63]

Great video as always. I've got the exact same blower, and it's a beast for only being 5hp.

[@sixtyfiveford]

These are so well built it wouldn't hesitate if you threw a 10hp on it.

[@gearheadgregwi]

Same here man. Just won't die.

[@donaldlawton7384]

I reused a head gasket on a 31/2 or 5hp. I used that exhaust sealer puddy on it worked like a champ. Advanced auto has it in a toothpaste tube

[@sixtyfiveford]

Makes sense.

[@BruceBoschek]

Nice job, great machine. Puppy likes it for sure! Thanks for the video.,

[@sixtyfiveford]

You bet

[@crazzywolfie]

it is always nice to bring old equipment back to life. i picked up a fairly clean toro 5/24 last year that would have likely gone to scrap had i not ended up with it. piston was about 1/4" from the top of the cylinder and water clearly got into the engine with how much crud and corrosion had built up in the cylinder. cleaned it out as good as possible and hit it with penitrating oil. it broke free eventually. the bore didn't look perfect but after cleaning the carb and points it seemed to run real good and didn't seem like there was much if any blow by which actually surprised me.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome

[@carlmiller1034]

Great video Moe! Those Toro 2-stage snowblower from the 70s, 80s, and 90s are usually pretty solid (and easy to work on). Thanks for sharing.

[@sixtyfiveford]

They really are.

[@ProctorSilex]

Mine has been nothing but trouble. It used up the belts, the power transmission wheel thinger, start rope, and even the worm gear all with hardly any use. I spent most of my time with it repairing instead of blowing snow. It refused to run down hill for a time. When it did run, the snow was usually too much for it (too wet/deep/icy). I hope my grandfather got more use out of it before he gave it to us.

[@transmitterguy478]

Some consumer stuff just isn't designed well and ends up being junk.

[@foxwood67]

I have a few vessel impacts screwdrivers to work on older Japanese bikes. The heads are JIS and do work well even on a standard #2 Phillip. Nice easy fix for the snowblower. 👍👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, I've had a basic Vessel JIS for years and wouldn't be without it. Just barely picked up the impact and so far I'm impressed.

[@tomjohnson3141]

Even when they run great those motors are just a little under-powered for the deep and heavy/wet snow; just a little more work than it can easily handle. For me, instead of dropping more time/money replacing the carb, fuel lines, muffler, etc. I'm doing the Predatpr 212 swap. These old v;pwers are "built like a tank" and seem far better built than newer models. Having 30% more power from the Predator swap (from 5hp to 6.5hp) should make it a nice little work horse and it should last another 20+ years. :)

[@donaldlawton7384]

That's a great unit. I have the exact unit at home.👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

They're built like tanks.

[@donaldlawton7384]

Yea,lol mine was shooting snow over 2 cars,lol!

[@dosiodosev740]

With that knife, good job Rambo, thank you

[@kevinleee3408]

That's a nice handle on there for the recoil

[@josephhalas1676]

Keep those videos coming

[@buzzard6410]

Got the same one only it's a 421. Change the oil and spark plug periodically and they just run and run.

[@kevinleee3408]

I'm hoping you got a video about that little pickup I'm going to watch that next

[@mikecollins8241]

Another great video! I just revived my (almost the samw) 'blower... it had sat for the last 3-4 years and the carb was SHOT... $8 for a new one from Amazon (china), new fuel line and some PB blaster on anything that should move and she fired up first pull ;)

[@sixtyfiveford]

Can't beat that.

[@mr1pearl]

The old Tecumseh rides again !!!

[@corey6393]

That would be a great minibike/go-kart engine donor. Could be swapped around seasonally, too!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Definitely!

[@barthanes1]

Nice find.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks!

[@Kevin-xy3yr]

I use a 521 very good little snowblower, it's got a 212 cc predador engine on it. pretty simple swap

[@zx8401ztv]

Well done Moe, I did wonder if the compression was ok, but the way it starts it's good :-D i'm lucky to live in the uk so no snow just rain rain and rain lol. It usually rains when i start mowing the grass, just to annoy :-)

[@sixtyfiveford]

Just to annoy! that's funny.

[@zx8401ztv]

​@@sixtyfiveford Ha ha 😀 Well maybe look at it like this, you repair a minor fault on a friends car. You give it a good 40 min test drive and it's spot on! :-D So you call the owner to pick it up. 30 mins later the owner is back with the car, ' The fault is still there moe i may slap you for taking the micky' So you apologise and attack the car again, seems good now 😀 You call the owner again and they pick up the car, you are sorry as you want to help the person. Don't you feel that the car is just taking the piss :-D

[@adnacraigo6590]

An all around Jedi master of mechanical things.

[@mrdddeeezzzweldor5039]

A wee bit more effort than the average homeowner is willing to expend and the reward is well worth it. Every SF salvage comes with a maintenance or repair tip prize...like a box of Cracker Jack!

[@louf7178]

Thanks!

[@beingsneaky]

man wish i cold find stuff like you and mustie... but alas i don't live in the States.....

[@beingsneaky]

I know ppl be hating on tecumseh but they are great engines if you looked after them, meaning don't leave gas in the tank and carb. Clean carb, put stabilizer and maybe carb injector choke cleaner in the gas..

[@PainterD54]

The old Toros are good machines and built to last (if taken care of properly) The new ones are built alot cheaper and need preventive maintenance more often.

[@bobrees4363]

I always put a nut on the end of the crankshaft when using a hammer to remove the flywheel. Just as a precaution.

[@sixtyfiveford]

If the threads go all the way out, yes.

[@gearheadgregwi]

That is familiar. I've got one in the garage. Just replaced the carburetor. Starts on first pull.

[@randallswetnam]

Impressive!

[@DaveAppleton]

We are living at a time where the cost of living has made wages so high that items like this are not worth repairing for someone with zero mechanical knowledge. I think it's sad. Anyway more free stuff to fix up and keep or turn a profit on 😁

[@sixtyfiveford]

Great point!

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

That'd be a unique pastime for an Aussie blue cattle dog. They're great mutts but need plenty of exercise. Not usually suited to the urban environment.

[@robertknight4672]

I'm not 100% sure but I think if the 521 has a red shroud and red belt cover it has points and if it has the black cover on shroud is more likely to have electronic ignition. I had one of the more modern 521 blowers with pneumatic tires. That had the more moder electric ignition engine on it before I repowered it with a predator 212.

[@wtbm123]

Cool . I have one of those screwdrivers

[@sixtyfiveford]

It was cheap enough I thought I'd give it a try. I like it.

[@old64goat]

Great fix Moe. Questions: did you use the old head gasket over again? Did you use any gasket cement on the head gasket? Many many years ago I replaced the head gasket on my Studebaker 6 cyl and the machine shop that resurfaced the head told me to use aluminum paint on the head gasket before installing it.

[@DaveAppleton]

The part he needed hanging off the blower at the start of the video was a new gasket.

[@old64goat]

@@DaveAppleton Okay, thanks

[@rodneybrand8521]

Copper coat is best..

[@sixtyfiveford]

I picked up a new gasket for $6 and the old one had a large hole in it. These engine are such low compression(6:1) that they need very little help from things like copper/aluminum paint coat. For car engines with coolant passages etc the paint can really help seal and or give reassurance.

[@old64goat]

Thanks Moe for the info.

[@luke2042]

You have a whole bag full of tricks

[@steamboatwillie935]

Got one of these going last Year. Problem couldn't sell it. Because nobody wanted a 40 Year Old Snow blower. Fine for personal use, but I've already got a newer Model.

[@sixtyfiveford]

People don't want 10year old snowblowers. Stuff is such junk these days I have to omit the age unless they ask.

[@kevinleee3408]

Tell me what that spring looking dude at is that's in the path of the snow coming out of the chute

[@campbellpaul]

Best dog on KZbin!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Never a dull moment.

[@tughillplateau2129]

Love the old equipment, built so much better.

[@12wingwfetech]

I been told that those blowers with the large drum auger are better in in wet slushy snow

[@williamwilliams7706]

Your pup is a Nut.

[@bardmadsen6956]

I keep forgetting, but I've heard leaf blowers work great, and I have around four of them way up North. Help, made a dash cover to stick on my rebuilt shattered Chevy dash out of treadmill tread and realized at the last moment that is like silicone sprayed nylon, tape doesn't even stick. It tried cleaning it with acetone, got any ideas?

[@sixtyfiveford]

Contact adhesive? That stuff bonds most anything, though I haven't tried it on silicone. Maybe silicone caulk.

[@bardmadsen6956]

@@sixtyfiveford Thanks, I guess it will have to wait till warm weather or scrub it in the bathtub with dawn dish soap. Just wasn't thinking, I was too excited that I found something, the black velvet and rubber cement worked for three years. I'm one of those that actually watch the road and can't stand reflections, or today's inconsiderate drivers that leave their brights on. The whole thing was an ordeal, even had to make a screw jack tool to get the wipers off so I could use the vent as a pattern.

[@handyhippie6548]

last week mustie1 did the same thing to an ariens snowblower.

[@larspersson6619]

You are best

[@rockystelone21]

Whats the name of that stand you had the snowblower on thanks?

[@sixtyfiveford]

It's a hydraulic double scissor lift table cart amzn.to/3wHaH0d

[@robertmailhos8159]

The engine is.looking like a Tecumseh engine I've heard that the use to much starter fluid in a diesel engine is not a great idea either Glad you got it running again

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, this is the good days to Tecumseh (1983) before they starting cheapening everything up in the 90's to win contracts.

[@robertmailhos8159]

@@sixtyfiveford the bad thing is that they are out of business now 😭😳

[@sixtyfiveford]

@@robertmailhos8159 Yeah, I think it was around 2000, so 20-25 years ago now.

[@robertmailhos8159]

@@sixtyfiveford that is a long time to be out of business

[@jasonwb6884]

I've never heard of blowing a head gasket by using starting fluid. Was going to say a mouse nest on head, but looks like most of the fins don't have much of a cover over them.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Ether makes any fuel extremely easy to combust. So the combustion can/will happen before the piston crests and essentially slams against the piston. So a piston moving up is instantaneously slammed back down, reversing the rotation of the crankshaft. This bends connecting rods, cracks the piston and blows out the head gasket. I have a engine right now that the top of the piston is blown off due to starting fluid.

[@Goomer]

I have an old 5/24, it is a tank. I hate the shifting/clutch is one control on the bars, so you have to let go of the left bar to shift or pull it out of gear via a shift knob....dangerous. Nobody wants to buy it, lol. Does that one have solid tires?

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, the super hard solid tires. The only thing good about solid tires is being able to throw a couple hex head screws in them for traction.

[@staind288]

I'd say the weak points had a play in it too. Not just the head gasket.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Zero compression was the key

[@greebo7857]

Coolest dog on the internet..