Killer Submarines Sneaking Through the Blockade | The Cuban Missile Crisis | Day 09

On October 24, 1962, the US-led blockade on Cuba goes into effect, but It's not the showdown that it looks like! At least not on the surface...
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[@TimeGhost]

This is the tenth of fourteen episodes following the Cuban Missile Crisis day-by-day. We'll be back tomorrow, and the day after that until the end of the crisis. All the episodes are already available to the TimeGhost Army on www.patreon.com/timeghosthistory or timeghost.tv. By joining us there you will also support the creation of these independent, realtime historical documentary series! Cheers, Joram . *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban. THE PROMOTION OF EXTREME, VIOLENT IDEOLOGIES IS ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN This includes the justification, or promotion of ideologies, regimes, and systems that have historically or are inherently contrary to the principles of democracy and human rights. To be clear some of these ideologies are Naziism, Fascism, Colonialism, Imperialism, Leninism, Stalinism, Revolutionary Socialism, Integral Nationalism and any other ideology that promotes authoritarianism, and a disregard for inalienable individual rights as outlined in the UDHR. Regimes that fall under this rule are for example: Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, the British Empire, Colonial France, pre-emancipation USA, Imperial Japan, Communist China, the USSR and any similar systems and regimes. While an academic discussion of these ideologies and regimes is permitted, even desired, any value statements or comparative posts to extoll their positive sides will be deleted, and may lead to a ban. . Here’s why: It is objectively true that the authoritarian regimes we cover in our series, be they far-left or far-right, were willing to use systematic oppression, violence, and murder to create or maintain their preferred system of governance. From the perspective of human rights, democracy, and plain decency, this is clearly unacceptable. Now, that is, of course, a morally absolute statement based on 21st-century morals and ethics. Therefore, in our content, we refrain from any such judgement and just tell the story as it is. We’re concerned only with the past. We don’t take sides, and we don’t decide which side deserves more blame than the other. Our comment section, however, is not taking place in the past. Our comments are made in the present-day, and political comments such as the ones we don’t allow are promoting a present-day agenda by whitewashing, diminishing, or even justifying the crimes of a past regime. We will not allow for such rhetoric in the same way most democratic European countries (where we create this content) won’t allow for such rhetoric. As historians, our very work depends on this so that we can continue interrogating the past free from political influence.

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

You claim it's the tenth yet you put at the title "day 9". Please fix this...

[@atharva_kari]

Hey Indy! Thanks for the awesome videos! Hope your doing well and stay safe :)

[@howardbrandon11]

@@luxembourgishempire2826 they're counting day 0 as the first epsiode.

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

@@howardbrandon11 Oh! Oops... 😂😂 Thanks for saying.

[@TimeGhost]

@@luxembourgishempire2826 no, no this is the tenth episode, but it's also Day 9 - the first episode was Day 0.

[@dday881]

“literally had to lock up the nukes to prevent him from using them”. I got more humor out of that phrase then I probably should have. Lol

[@lobaandrade7172]

I laughed out loud at “he was furious that he couldn’t nuke North Korea”

[@davidwright7193]

Tamas Sandor he felt that nuking North Korea was essential to protect the purity of the vital fluids of US population....

[@Skac01]

@@lobaandrade7172 he was legitimately disappointed when WWIII didn't start when the Soviets downed a US spy plane over Soviet soil in 1954.

[@hansgruber788]

@@davidwright7193 purity of precious bodily fluids

[@howardbrandon11]

That soldier picked a really, really bad time to be, both literally and figuratively, caught with his pants down.

[@ronik24]

Since there was no war, I think the time could have been way way worse for him. In fact, we are all very lucky to still have the world as it is now.

[@Cancun771]

The poor shmuck couldn't know that he was just going to be on candid camera. For all he knew, it could have been a surprise air raid and he was about to get blown to bits, especially if nobody put up some AA fire. What a prank indeed.

[@Raskolnikov70]

Maybe, maybe not. The rest of his comrades with their pants still on probably soiled them as the planes flew over.

[@RickLowrance]

He was interrupted cloning Curtis LeMay.

[@Teronas]

Kind of wished they had shown that photo :P

[@vehementocean31]

I love the gradual decline in the background the further into the crisis we go

[@howardbrandon11]

It only gets worse, especially with regard to Indy's wardrobe.

[@SuperLusername]

What do you mean by decline in the background?

[@phetproductions5818]

@@SuperLusername If you look at Indy's background between the episodes, you can see it getting messier and messier

[@tredbobek]

If you compare it with the first episode, you can see he is "using" the couch as bed, he's necktie and jacket is loose and the desk is a bit messier

[@cwulfe1]

Yeah, and those bottles of whiskey are getting empty too.

[@SenseiHippo]

13:35 ''See you on the ninth day of the crisis'' Waaaaaait a minute...

[@jennifermizutani6230]

Well, either we're going to do a Groundhog's Day kinda thing, or all the stress is getting to Indy. :D

[@TLTeo]

My aviation nerd self is SO HAPPY you mentioned the RF-8s. I love that airplane. The pilot's motto was "alone, unarmed, and unafraid". Supposedly, one of the pilots commented "we definitely were alone and unarmed. Not sure about that last one though".

[@Sturminfantrist]

Same motto for USAF Recon planes RF-101 Voodoo, RF-4C Phantom , i love Vietnam Era US Jets especialy USN planes F-4, A-4, A-6 ect. but my favorite is the F-8 Crusader the last Gunfighter (in Navy Service for a while) " when youre out of F-8`s youre out of Fighters"

[@Sturminfantrist]

you right, they flew unarmed because the Staffs were concerned that when armed with Guns or AIM`s the Pilot would play Cowboy and engaging enemy Fighters for a Kill this would endanger the Recon mission when an Recon plane got lost in AA combat, sry for bad engl.

[@OnionChoppingNinja]

Forget the U2 pilots. the RF-8 pilots where the real badasses.

[@allangibson8494]

The F-8 also set the record for the longest free fall after an ejection...

[@TLTeo]

@@Sturminfantrist eh, you may be exaggerating a bit there. The cameras took the place of the guns in both the RF-8 and RF-101, so they couldn't carry guns if they wanted to. It's possible that there was no room for pylons and wiring the AIM9s either. By comparison, F-14 Tomcat pilots who flew recce during Desert Storm could and did carry self defense weapons, and would say that they did not need any escort, because they were their own escort. Told you I'm an aviation nerd ;)

[@Alex.HFA1]

Hey there, Indy and Crew! Since I can read Russian, I thought I could chime in about the letter presented at 7:31. It does not say what you said it does. Chruchev mentions a letter received on the 23rd of Oct, tells Kennedy that he considers it a challenge and an untimatum and asks "How would you respond to an ultimatum like that". Then, he doubts the legality of any intervetion in the relations between two sovereign countries. Finally, he challenges the legality of the "quarantine", the misleading name, etc, while referring to a "You-know-what", implying a blockade. IMHO, this looks like Chruchev flinched, or at least not willing to escalated yet, as saying "blockade" might mean a declaration of hostilities. P.S. "Challenge" in this case implies a provocation, something that demands a response.

[@sacredkinetics.lns.8352]

Thanks for the clarification.

[@guillermoelenes7252]

Wow ! Alex for the kill on this whole propaganda series ! --- good job Alex

[@Jazaen]

I believe he's quoting this one digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/111552.pdf?v=9766f4104cf2da1edae58187c797e0e (slightly different translation than the one used here, but the meaning is pretty much the same)

[@Alex.HFA1]

@@Jazaen This is a strange one, here. I don't think it's the same letter - the English translation in MUCH longer, there's no mention of Piracy in Chruchev's orginal and no-one bothered to translate the "hint" that it's not a quarantine, but a blockade? As for "killing any propaganda"? - I was just trying to review the source, no more no less. Also, I think that Time Ghost crew is generally doing a good job, showing how close the warmongers came to their nuclear exchange and how culpable the US was in the whole thing.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@drdavid Snowflakes have no camp. Right Wingers had meltdowns long before anybody started talking about SJW and "left wing snowflakes". To pretend only one political direction has oversensitive worrywarts is laughable in the face of constant value shaming from the right. but at least in one regards you seem to be correct. Gullermo sounds like a cuban with some beef regarding the situation, but not enough knowledge or eloquence to actually expand his claims with evidence or even proper arguments.

[@callummegginson554]

I'm glad to see that the red lamp is back, I was sorry to see it so dormant last time. Hopefully green starts feeling better soon :(

[@AnnieVanAuken]

I have thoroughly enjoyed your multi-part series on the Missile Crisis, an event that terrorized me as an 8-year-old, thanks in large part to my youthful conclusion that the world would surely end in a nuclear holocaust. Just a week or so before these events unfolded, I and my whole grammar school lined up on the curb of New Haven's Woodward Ave. and watched and cheered as President Kennedy rolled by in an open limo. He had arrived to give a speech at Yale. It was a gorgeous autumn morning, with a brilliant sun making JFK's hair glow red as fire. I remember thinking, why couldn't this beautiful man be my Daddy? That dreamy feeling got lost in what would soon bring the planet to the brink of disaster.

[@Cancun771]

It occurs to me that Kennedy, while not a submariner, still had been a Navy man, serving aboard some patrol torpedo boat in the war if I remember correctly. So he should have been perfectly able to put himself into the position of Soviet sailors that get "practice charges" dropped on them while on duty in hostile waters.

[@509Gman]

Cancun771 there’s no way for the sub crew to know they’re “just practice charges”, in which case they’re not going to surface, and will probably retaliate, which will start a war. It’s the stupidest plan ever.

[@Cancun771]

@@509Gman Especially when the sub has nukes. Even if they are suicide nukes.

[@Aposthumushobo]

Kennedy indeed did command a Navy Patrol Boat as a Lieutenant, Junior Grade (LTJG). However, those patrol boats were equipped and trained to use torpedoes to sink enemy surface ships, and were completely unequipped to deal with submerged submarines. In fact, he is very well known in the scope of WW2 as being the commander of PT 109, a patrol boat that was rammed (still disputed whether or not it was intentional) by the Imperial Japanese destroyer Amagiri during a night with very low visibility at around 2:27 AM on August 2. Between then and August 8, Kennedy led the 11 survivors of the 13 on board at the time (including many seriously injured) through two incredibly demanding swims of 3.5 miles/5.6 km and 3.75 miles/6.04 km using a timber from PT109, all while clenching a life jacket strap to tow a guy with 70% burns across his body! Additionally, he and some other of the less injured and able swimmers swam to nearby islands in search of supplies. All this time they were also evading the various Japanese ships and camps in the vicinity. Ultimately, they managed to get in touch with allied coast watchers on August 5, but true rescue didn't come until the 8th. This incident would turn Kennedy into a hero, and was used to great effect during his campaigns for various political offices.

[@keithh67]

@ 10:15 it states that Ecker is a "Commanding Officer US Air Force". He was, at that time, the Commanding Officer of VFP-62, a NAVY photo reconnaissance squadron. Both he and Wilhelmy were US Navy officers and not associated with the USAF. In case non-military folks are confused, this is why LeMay (a USAF 4-star General) pouted in his Limousine. The Navy guys got the pictures. :)

[@PinguWithAnAxe]

I get the distinct feeling LeMay only has that cigar in his mouth because it would seem unprofessional for a Chief of Staff to have a baba and a blankey.

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

If you want a slightly exaggerated portrayal of LeMay, watch Doctor Strangelove and pay attention to General Ripper.

[@Gronk79]

LeMay was Gov. George Wallace's VP candidate in the 1968 Presidential election as a third party.

[@kitch42]

I remember this day very well, realizing this was very serious. I came onto campus and people were in the streets listening to their car radios. When I asked what was happening, all said it looks like war after all. The news was giving the details of the blockade. That is when I knew it was real.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Curtis Lemay sounds to fantastical to even be a Bond villain. They should have just told the Soviets they had this insane physcopathic lunatic, running around trying too set off any nuke he could find, that would have probably got them to step down.

[@planescaped]

He looks like an adult who bullies children.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@planescaped and acted like it too

[@martijn9568]

Good thing that he has been put in the World Dicktionary

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@Chris_Wooden_Eye mate I was joking, I was not thinking this would be a great tactic. If they should have done anything with him, it would have been give him a psychological examination and convict him of his war crimes.

[@creatoruser736]

Well when Indy only says the parts that make him look like a bloodthirsty monster and doesn't give any context, you'd get that idea.

[@Fortzon]

0:10 Someone cheated Indy in Battleship...

[@Raskolnikov70]

First pillow forts and now board games. Indy is using this series to work through a lot of stuff, be sensitive guys.....

[@Alex-cw3rz]

I like how in every video it looks like Indy's clothes are getting more and more ruffled with each episode

[@jrk1666]

for the first time on indy's narration its not a german sub causing trouble

[@elmersbalm5219]

what trouble were the soviet subs causing?

[@Wickedonezz]

@@elmersbalm5219 heating up the cold war

[@elmersbalm5219]

Wicked Onezz the cold war was a creation of Churchill and Truman. Russia was the last empire the UK and US had to obliterate. This was a continuation of The Great Game. Nothing more nothing less. Pity all those who sacrificed their life to fight 'communism'.

[@Wickedonezz]

@@elmersbalm5219 yeah dude, shame on those people wanting to fight more Nazis The Soviets never even get held responsible for the Holodomor

[@indianajones4321]

US: E 10 Soviet Union: Not anymore US: WHAT! Soviet Union: Takes subs off the grid US: Dude, so uncool

[@fabioartoscassone9305]

probably URSS thought to play star wars movies' chess...20 yrs before that movie

[@Raskolnikov70]

I did that once as a kid while playing with my uncle, took my destroyer off the board and slipped it into my pocket. He caught me cheating and was NOT happy.

[@Betrix5060]

@@Raskolnikov70 A game of battleship where you are constantly moving your units would be pretty infuriating, but with some rule restrictions not particularly unrealistic.

[@nonamesplease6288]

Great series! I particularly like the way you use recordings of the actual conversations in the White House. It gives more immediacy and shows the humanity of the men making the decisions.

[@Ghost_wheel]

I just want to comment on the absolute professionalism of the production value of TimeGhost. Just the tiny touches in the background of Indy's set are so spot on.

[@TimeGhost]

Thank you!

[@lambastepirate]

My dad flew sub chasers in the navy they where on maneuvers in the devils triangle at this time he spotted a sub and thought it was an American sub participating in the maneuvers he lined up on target dropped a couple 2 pound dummy bombs on the sub. He had a direct hit on the sub radioed it in to the ship they told him to come back to the ship. After he got down he was called to the capt. the capt. said we had no subs in the area my dad told him that they had taken pictures of the sub after they developed the film he had bombed a Russian sub!!

[@hvymtal8566]

I can hear the profane screaming of the passive audio sonarman when he hears what is, to him, an enormously loud _THUNK_ in his headset xD

[@mojrimibnharb4584]

Humiliating, but that's just how navies roll.

[@remybien3277]

Proud patreon supporter

[@TimeGhost]

Thank you

[@andypants1000]

Cuba isnt being quarantined, its social distancing.

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

They are actually pretty good at that

[@simoneriksson8329]

Nuclear distancing?

[@BigBoss-sm9xj]

At least six nukes apart

[@GugSport]

I am glad McNamara was freely explaining practice depth charges to someone who already knew that. If this was a video game, it's be a clear example of gratuitous exposition.

[@BleedingUranium]

Just another great example of people who complain X or Y in movies/fiction "isn't realistic/believable" sounding silly.

[@scruffscruffeton986]

Followed this every day while delivering the evening newspaper. Ahh, the 60's growing up. Didn't come in till the street lights come on, hanging out with friends, and, why should my friends and I worry, the adults will take care of everything.

[@maxsmodels]

Just to pick a bit, your picture of Lt. Bruce Wilhelmy labeled him as US Air Force. According to one of his squadron mates he was US Navy and was killed in 1966 in test pilot training at PAX river (NAS Patuxent).

[@williamhcollins2010]

Just found this channel and love the indepth analysis and explanation of the events!

[@PabloVestory]

Thank you so much! This series is so great, the rhythm, the ambientation, the 007 style music... I know how it ends, and yet i'm getting more and more anxious every day about all the question!

[@NoOne-fn8rz]

7:31 Translation: Dear Mr. President, I have received the letter you'd sent me on October 23d. I've read it and now answering you. Imagine Mr. President if we had sent you the same ultimatum conditions as you did with your action. What would be your reaction (respond)? I think that you would be outraged because of such an action from our side. And It would be understandable. You Mr. President made an invocation giving us that conditions. Who did ask you for that? What right has allowed you to do that? Our connections with the Republic of Cuba the same as with the other countries involves only two of us. And if we are talking about the quarantine you've mentioned in the letter then as it used to be in the international practice this quarantine is supposed to be done only according to an agreement of two countries between themselves and not by any third country. There are for instance quarantines of agricultural goods and products. But in this particular case we are not talking about a quarantine. We are talking about a more serious stuff and you understand it well enough. To his Excellency Mr. John F. Kennedy the President of the United States of America Washington, DC

[@dadonutparadise7626]

lost all credibility at "Deer"

[@NoOne-fn8rz]

@@dadonutparadise7626 Thank you dear)

[@user-vf6cp5vw6s]

@@dadonutparadise7626 Deer is actualy a common russian insult to a stupid stubborn person more common now than donkey) so the reverse translation would be very funny in russian

[@Niinsa62]

Remember a buddy of mine telling about the time they were overflown by a SAAB SF37 Viggen photo-recon plane during an exercise here in Sweden back in the early eighties. They did not have time to respond to the low-level fast jet, or even react. But the Air Force squadron sent them a photo afterwards, a very clear, crisp photo, showing a lot of stuff in great detail. Including a lone white face looking up at the photo recon jet, and very clearly also giving a second finger salute. Apparently the Air Force guys were impressed that this one single guy of the grunts down below was fast enough to at least show his contempt! While no-one else around him was fast enough to even look up. So I'm impressed by that guy in Cuba stumbling out from the outhouse with his pants around his ankles when the Crusader passed above, really quick reaction there! :-)

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

I am actually happy that Ecker and Bruce didn't have to face a monster like Curtis LeMay. Heroes like them don't need any appreciation from such a war-criminal.

[@keitatsutsumi]

11:20 I wish you guys showed that pic lmaoooo

[@Afdch]

7:30 Dear Mr. President, I have received your letter from October 23rd, I have read it and I am replying to you now. Imagine, mr. President, that we have set to you the ultimatum you have set to us with your actions. How would you react to that? I think, you would be outraged by that our step, and that would’ve been understandable. By setting this ultimatum, You, mr. President, have challenged us. Who asked you to do this? By what right have you done this? Our relations with the Republic of Cuba, as our relationships with other nations, nevertheless the nation, are a concern only of the two parties having said relations. If we’re talking about the quarantine that is mentioned in Your letter, as is customary in foreign relations, it can only be set between two countries according to the treaty between them, not by a third party. There do exist, say, quarantines for agricultural goods and products. But in this case, it is not a quarantine at all, it is all more serious, and You do understand this. To His Excellence Mr. John F. Kennedy The President of the United States of America Washington city.

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

Noone: Some USA generals during the korean war: Let's just drop a few nuclear weapons until we turn this into a waste land.

[@michaeltempsch5282]

IIRC, the idea was to use Cobalt jacketed ("salted") nukes to create a long lasting irradiated belt by the N.K./China border

[@thesweatleaf]

10:15 Hey please be more careful in the future. It is key to the story to show the Navy, while performing a blockade, was responsible for rapidly providing reconnaissance. These aviators could have been requested by the Kennedy Administration because of his faith in the Navy, and his skepticism over LeMay's Air Force -- Kennedy may have been less likely to trust recon conducted under LeMay's instruction. The caption should read US Navy, NOT US Air Force.

[@ernestebell1735]

Yeah, I noticed that, too. The pilots are Navy, but the caption reads Air Force.

[@phelyxz]

... The fact that that might be the reason the navy did the recon and not the air force might be worth mentioning!

[@thexalon]

Nice guy, this Curtis LeMay character. Someone should make a movie mocking him, maybe holding a folder that reads "World Targets in Megadeaths" and advocating unabashedly for an all-out nuclear strike.

[@MarkoKraguljac]

Wasnt that general Buck Turgidson from Kubrick's "Dr Strangelove"?

[@thexalon]

@@MarkoKraguljac Yes, that's exactly the reference.

[@UngravedNazi]

I‘m curious, on 7:44 Indy refers to the Khrushchev’s letter to JFK and quotes it. Is it some other letter, not the one shown just few seconds earlier? Because the letter in Russian that was shown in the video doesn’t have a single word about banditry, hatred towards Cuba, imperialism or elections 🤔

[@Raskolnikov70]

Another commenter here who reads Russian better than I do pointed out that inconsistency as well. The visual producer might have used a stock photo of a different letter that didn't match the script.

[@UngravedNazi]

Raskolnikov70 oh, my apologies, haven’t seen it.

[@БогуславПозняк]

​@@Raskolnikov70 it is not a stock photo as it's content is actually related to the current events, maybe it was just another letter that was sent before?

[@UngravedNazi]

Богуслав Позняк, exactly my thoughts. Pretty sure there was more than one letter, and TimeGhost guys either made a whoopsie, or just haven’t posted the mentioned original letter.

[@Rangersly]

You guys have done an excellent job on all your videos, but this series about the Cuban Missile Crisis is the best thing you have ever done!

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks! It took a lot of work so we're glad it showed :)

[@DB-jc5ns]

My grandpa was a radioman aboard a sub-chaser in Key West in 1962. I knew about the Cuban Missile Crisis and that he was part of the blockade but I had no idea how heavy of a role his ship and the other sub-chasers played in the crisis. Thanks for shedding a little more light on a part of his service I wish I could have talked to him more about.

[@Knihti1]

One of the generals takes his cigar out of his mouth and says: "You're a pilot..." Naval Aviator risk his lifes to take photos over Cuba and general insult him by calling him a pilot! A PILOT!

[@darthcalanil5333]

I hope this series will be noticed and picked up by some streaming service. You deserve all the success from this level of excellence !

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks for the words of encouragement! If you ever find a mainstream outlet that would be interested in speaking with us, please send us their information :)

[@hafizajiaziz8773]

The last time I was this early, no one had comment on Indy's tie yet.

[@gianniverschueren870]

Oof, I see why you left the jacket open to make sure everyone saw this tie. 3/5

[@gianniverschueren870]

@Yugesh PatnaikA title I will relish

[@Raskolnikov70]

It's a lot more subdued than the others have been lately. I was starting to get a tropical, tiki-vibe from those.

[@capt_von_ondine5962]

Hmmm. Thought you would give this at least a 3.5. You getting tougher on them? Also, what is with the clothes laying about the room. Is Indy sleeping in there until the crisis is over?

[@gianniverschueren870]

@@capt_von_ondine5962 I have to grade on a scale and Astrid has served up some doozies in the past few months. I don't know, this tie somehow manages to be colourful and a little boring at the same time

[@atharva_kari]

This is really informative Indy! This helps us in Quarantine! Stay safe!

[@BebopSpeaks]

Your description of the heroic pilot's flight was awe inspiring. Good work!

[@FatManWalking18]

ok, the set grips are doing a great job, moving around the glasses, changing the liquor levels and adding cigarette butts

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

This is getting too dangerous...

[@morisco56]

Not as dangerous as you aquiring nuclear weapons doe imagine

[@Raskolnikov70]

Could be worse, the Duchy of Grand Fenwick could get involved and we'd all be in a world of hurt.

[@Darwinek]

@@morisco56 Imagine Luxembourg being the only nuclear power out of the three Benelux countries. People would pay the country a long-deserved respect finally.

[@hoyer]

really like that the tie is looser and the whisky glas on the table

[@poot111111]

Wow Indy is great, he puts me on the edge of my seat, every time!

[@Sean_Coyne]

Curtis leMay, refusing to attend the decoration ceremony for the navy pilots, "pouting and chomping on his cigar"...as his precious bodily fluids boil over.

[@Jay-ln1co]

I'm just picturing a LeMay demanding the launch keys from some lieutenants like a drunk person wanting his car keys.

[@johnhanselman6371]

The game "Battleship" is not very realistic considering an aircraft carrier is the easiest target to sink and the tiny USS Minnow PT Boat usually survives and wins the game. It is also a simple game of honesty between two people which is always suspect.

[@dirkbonesteel]

Submarine SSN 597 pictured was the most advanced of it's time with turbo electric drive and first sonar dome in bow. It didn't have the history it deserved partly due to it's spare parts being lost in a fire. It was one of a kind so that's a problem. It did stay in service into late 80's but spent a lot of time tied to Groton pier

[@DATA-qt3nb]

Everytime Curtis LeMay does anything it's usually terrible and doesnt accomplish the goal

[@DATA-qt3nb]

@@paulacassinlearningcentre8326 lmao, Yes indeed

[@DATA-qt3nb]

@Despiser Despised I know how the command structure works obviously, doesnt make LeMay any less shity of a person for having bad ideas. Please tell me where I even mentioned communists? Sounds like you're just some paranoid bootlicker with 1 sided opinions.also never pushed blame on him for this specific situation entirely anyways you just assume shit I suppose.

[@DATA-qt3nb]

@Despiser Despised Saying he had shity opinions isn't a Communist conspiracy you Dunce. It's literally just my opinion and you're taking this shit way too seriously lmao

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@paulacassinlearningcentre8326 There would have been no need for a 2nd Battle of the Isonzo, or a 3rd, or a 4th, or a.....

[@RCAvhstape]

That's actually quite incorrect. LeMay was an asshole to be sure, but he did know how to run a strategic bombing campaign. His campaign against the Japanese Empire was brutal, a war crime, but effective. And his work building SAC into a credible and terrifying nuclear deterrent force was solid. So he was good for something, but in my opinion he was also too dangerous to be left in command. During the Eisenhower administration he illegally sent US bombers onto recon/mock bombing runs inside Soviet territory against the president's orders, and for that alone he deserved to be run up the fucking flag pole. His blatant insubordination is intolerable in a man charged with a nuclear arsenal, and his disrespect towards those brave Navy pilots marks him as a first class piece of shit.

[@9wowable]

hahahahah just watching the booze levels in the background getting lower and lower

[@sacredkinetics.lns.8352]

Gentleman: You are the best; astonishing presentations. 💫👽💫

[@TimeGhost]

[@jondough76]

Excellent series!

[@MajSolo]

War Hawks !!! I think Kennedy was the most balanced. I love TimeGhost series

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks!

[@mikematthews7166]

Another excellent episode. Thanks Indy.

[@TimeGhost]

Thank YOU!

[@anthonybrummett9231]

Good Luck to you Indie... Really love ads

[@xyanide1986]

That Lemay is such a heel cartoon villain. I love it.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Excellent.

[@MrKen-wy5dk]

I remember, in 7th grade, practicing "Duck and Cover" in my junior high school classroom. I lived near Galveston, TX so the threat was not that far away.

[@Niinsa62]

Really interesting stuff, keep it coming!

[@thewidow7864]

there's a Spanish punk band called Def Con Dos (a misspelling of DEFCON 2)

[@joelvig]

This is a great series. Keep it up

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks!

[@grathian]

The "practice" depth charge they are talking about is called "SUS" (Sound Underwater Signal), essentially the same as a flash-bang on land, of negligible power.

[@Sturminfantrist]

When i hear Le May, SAC and "Dr. Strangelove......." comes to my mind .

[@iamnolegend483]

Sturminfantrist Maybe he was a role model for the George C Scott character in Dr. Strangelove , General Turgidson

[@maxsmodels]

Oh I sank many a battleship

[@InfinityWarriorInc]

Y'know, I wasn't exactly expecting my home town to be mentioned here; but I guess that Jacksonville, FL does have an airbase somewhere.

[@Darwinek]

As kids, we used to play battleships on a grid paper. No screens involved. Best time ever.

[@deabreu.tattoo]

I love it how Indy is getting progressively disheveled with every episode. I'm looking for stubble and eyebags past day 11

[@anshuldwivedi1919]

Love your videos guys be it the extensive coverage of WW1, Interwar, WW2 (ongoing) or the Cuban Missile Crisis. If funds & time allows, I would love you guys to cover more countries & conflicts like - Korean War - Arab-Israeli wars - Iran-Iraq wars - Indo-China war etc

[@kyledunn6853]

"Take us to DEFCON 2, Secretary McNamara" ( Heavy Boston Accent)

[@elmersbalm5219]

what a cliff hanger! What a cliff hanger! I hope things end up well tomorrow!

[@andreborges73]

Man! Indy's video opening lines are so good! Indy has so much potential as an entertainer! I'm professional wrestling fan, I think he would be a great manager, I'm sure about that! XD. I forgot to put thumbs up in almost every video, but every Indy video has my thumbs up as default!

[@soviet9922]

Real good

[@petethebastard]

Good vid, great series! ...nice tie! You're green/blue lava lamp still isn't working... Or will it soon?

[@thebog11]

Seeing LeMay has reminded me of something - the DickTionary must be completed! I don't know what TimeGhost has planned, but this is absolutely vital.

[@stevefreeland9255]

I may never recover from seeing that picture of lemay in a bathrobe!

[@vacuumgaze5277]

11:21 please tell me where I can find this, reminds me of Jurassic Park

[@L.J.Kommer]

Like, I know how this all ends, but it's still terrifying to think about how close we were to nuclear extinction.

[@jeffmcarthur5617]

Funny enough, when I first saw this, I had literally just watched a video about the movie Battleship, based on the game Battleship. (To hear Indy say at the beginning, "You know the game Battleship?" Well yeah! I think I do! :) )

[@Coconutlacroix]

Such a great series. If they aren't going to reopen schools, then your videos should be prescribed for history

[@TimeGhost]

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Kinda wanna see that picture of that Cuban stumbling out of his outhouse

[@RandomDudeOne]

The writing is great in this series. Blows away other history channels where you can tell they're reading wikipedia articles.

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks so much, what you see in videos is sadly only the tip of the iceberg of all the research that gets done!

[@bryanguzik]

9th day, FIRST TIME?! How responsible.

[@TheSamstergangster]

wish i could afford to support you, great channels

[@rogerhudson9732]

Soviet submarines had a number of HE torpedoes and just ONE nuclear torpedo, because the lethal radius of the warhead is the same or a little more than the range of the torpedo, it endangers the sub that fires it.

[@jacek8889]

Damn Kruschev in playing rough!

[@onefastcyclist]

A great job describing the tension of the time and having the USSR's point of view adds true substance that no one in America had at the time. However, It is sad that LeMay chose this time to be petty.

[@fredhoupt4078]

The best.

[@stephen9869]

Using noisy old diesel powered subs that need to surface on a regualr basis to snorkel the fumes wasn't the greatest idea...however placing *Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov* on one of them actually was! ;-P

[@coolwhip455]

Curtis LeMay is the person who slams the Monopoly board to the ground when he lands on Boardwalk.

[@alexhatfield2987]

Ive been watching this for 9 days.....I'm now getting scared....

[@eifelitorn]

LeMay was THE hawk of the hawks.. dam dude

[@jmitterii2]

More like the chicken hawks of the hawks. The blowhard coward probably spent his time in his limo chomping on a pacifier or his thumb with banana peal to his ear. You'll discover the loudmouths tend to be the most pathetic wimps.

[@eifelitorn]

@@jmitterii2 he, it seems like he wanted to compensate for something real bad

[@lycaonpictus9662]

@@jmitterii2 Curtis LeMay was a lot of things - most of it bad - but he wasn't a coward. He was a dangerous war hawk, a mass murderer, and later became the running mate for a segregationist candidate for the presidency. In many ways we represented the worst of America in the 20th Century. He was not lacking in physical courage however and personally led many dangerous bombing missions over Germany in the Second World War. While a Colonel in charge of a B-24 group a report reached him that many pilots had been aborting over their targets too early. He sent out an order stating that he'd be in the lead plane for all their missions and that the crew of any plane that failed to follow would be court-martialed. LeMay was a villain of an almost cartoonish quality, but physical couage is perhaps the one trait of his personality that hasn't earned criticism.

[@odiebo]

at 10:16 photos of the pilots are labeled at US Air Force but the pilots, and planes are US Navy. Hence the reason LeMay was upset by the Navy's recon.

[@guibass2000]

I don't think that green lava lamp is working, Indy...

[@spyrosg3172]

At 10:14, the text under the photos of Ecker and Wilhelmy suggest they belong to the US Air Force. Of course they are US Navy officers, as explained in the video.

[@satazs6195]

>begins video by saying "Day nine" >ends video by saying "See you on the ninth day of the crisis" What did he mean by this