[Killing Floor 2] Body Armor - Gameplay Mechanics

[@brucehc4975]

*SIREN WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*

[@ArchDurandal]

As a general rule for myself, I typically start buying armor around the mid-point of the waves when the skrakes and fleshpounds start spawning. Thanks for the tip about not using autofill when buying armor!

[@miciso666]

only on suicidal and above. armour mostly is useless on lower levels just pump into nice guns :D

[@k.okirbe]

buy it when the nice French lady tells you to

[@Brutaltronics]

i usually start buying armor on the last 2 or 3 waves before the boss.

[@lonelypotato520]

Armor is literally the first thing I buy

[@ace8656]

+Lonely Potato git gud

[@miciso666]

waste of cash if u have medics. 300 cash per wave u will always lose if u dont get gud. rather have the medic / off medic heal you instead. if the medic sucks. suck it up learn to press Quickheal

[@lonelypotato520]

ace8656 did somebody say A U T O F I L L

[@indianwarlord6935]

@@lonelypotato520 you're trash

[@RichardDangles]

Corrections: -Arguement should say argument. -Heavy Armor ignores DoT if armor is greater than the damage tick from DoT.

[@ryanorswift330]

Love the specifications

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

I already made a similar comment earlier but: -EDAR Trapper Grab attacks don't damage Armor and will always deal Health Damage just like a Siren Scream (it seems to ignore resistances). -The Steam Tubes on "Airship" deal no damage to armor and will always deal Health damage (it seems to ignore resistances as well).

[@miciso666]

o really? nice info :)

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

I have yet to be sent flying off the ship by those gas tubes despite being hit by them multiple times.

[@milkmessiah5192]

5:05 Next video should be on the new flying zed type.

[@Pudgeee]

His aim has improved so much since his first killing floor videos.

[@RougeHimbo]

I’ve developed a habit of throwing all my high tier weapons when I know for a fact I’m going to die, unless I get T-boned by a fleshpound

[@k.okirbe]

purchase it when the nice French lady tells you to because she is nice

[@91010186]

Sometimes i mute the game because of her voice.

[@justinmielsch5924]

Yes

[@justinmielsch5924]

@@91010186 no

[@allrisk7319]

@@91010186 blasphemy

[@91010186]

@@allrisk7319 killing floor is heresy to the 1st one

[@benjaminrobledo5466]

This video confused me more than helped. Lol. In the end, I got, Armor = Good. ~and~ Armor = 300 dosh to fill. ~and~ Don't ever use autofill/autobuy.

[@mob5613]

Awesome vid. Can you do a video on weapon upgrades? The pros and cons and what weapons are worth the upgrade and when should you upgrade !

[@ryanorswift330]

Wow I was just watching and you uploaded lol. Loving the content!!

[@TamiyaGuy123]

Very interesting and in-depth view of armour. A tiny bit maths-heavy for my liking, but you gave examples to contextualise your points, which is appreciated. I've got to say that I'm impressed at the lack of bias in your views, particularly considering that it's a fairly hotly contested issue (I've seen a few kicked players who bought armour at the "wrong" time). Possibly it might've been worth mentioning how perk choice and even number of players can significantly affect armour's cost-benefit equation, since you mentioned generally that it must be considered when choosing whether to buy. From my own experience, I almost never buy armour when I (admittedly rarely) play Berserker, since the damage resilience and regen/175hp, combined with the CQC nature of the perk, makes armour a money-sink in my view. In contrast, while playing Medic in smaller groups I often find myself having to kill trash and put myself on the frontlines to tank damage, making armour a much more valuable proposition as soon as Scrakes (or even Husks) appear frequently. And since I've seen it happen one too many times: Heavy Armour Training can have a big impact on any Medic who relies on Symbiotic Healing to stay alive, and can result in the wearer getting shredded if their armour depletes while in a bad spot. Cracking and excellently thought-out video as always, even though I play much more based on "feel" than the numbers. I look forward to the next one!

[@KageRyuu6]

I would argue Cripple is less valuable than Assault Armor given that it only slows zeds which is only really an issue with raging Scrakes, Flesh Pounds, and Quarter Pounds as lesser zeds/EDARs tend to fall to a short burst to their weak point, while SC tend to only require a single Stun Grenade to stun multiple of even if raging, and bosses tend to be immune to slow effects, only really leaving FP and QP as a potential net positive for Cripple. While Assault Armor increases your Armor pool by another 50 points to a max of 200 with Heavy Armor which combined with the 35% Armor Resistance SWAT gets from Heavy Armor further increases that value up to a max of 307 mitigated HP damage compared to the 230 you would get from Heavy Armor alone.

[@QuickQuips]

Thanks for this. I've put 200+ hrs and just treated it as a mystery.

[@Jojje4567]

Tactical Movement is still usually the better skill for SWATs to take after Wave 1. You''d be suprised how much being able to move at full speed while ADSing helps compared to a little more durability.

[@un-capital3666]

It also makes you immune to clot grabs, which is useful for avoiding a brick wall when being chased by 3 quarter-pounds. (In reference to the heavy armor skill)

[@synchronium24]

5:01 With the SWAT's heavy armor reducing damage by 35%, wouldn't you only receive 13 damage to armor instead of 20?

[@RichardDangles]

Yes! In the graphic it should say 20(0.65) meaning 20 * 0.65 = 13.

[@870gamer4]

@@RichardDangles what is the intro music

[@-snek.]

tfw no fleshpound husbando to embrace you

[@RichardDangles]

:-(

[@ChaosDemon2]

I still remember the medic skill that gave your teammates a small percentage of their total armour. Anyone else miss that skill, or am I on a ship sinking alone?

[@Rmason3156]

Miss it yes but it was way to op

[@beanboy3791]

Bro can I just have a cardboard box around me.

[@Gunzerkingidiot]

bean boy i mean that's what body armor becomes on HoE late waves

[@beanboy3791]

Still want the cardboard tho.

[@kirbyppg]

Actually, you can...

[@papalevan]

Imagine having to buy armor on the 2nd round. *This post was made by SWAT gang*

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

Richard, There is a few notes you missed: Armor does NOT absorb EDAR Trapper damage from the grab attack (you will lose about 20 HP from this attack regardless of your armor value) and armor will not be lost due to damage dealt by the gas tubes on the map "Airship" (it will usually do about 10 damage if you are unlucky enough to standing near a tube when they go off).

[@conspark9946]

The field medic can also get the 30% damage resistance buff from their own gas grenade. As well as all of the other team buffs. I was able to get full buff by standing in the gas for 5-8 secs.

[@metro2673]

When I buy armor is very dependant on map wave and team comp. If we have a good medic it basically only boss that I need armor. Imo the giving 300 dosh to your medic is better lots of the time.

[@McTheWarhammer]

Just be the person to find the armour pickup no investment needed lol

[@TOKTOM119]

Great to have you back on KF2!!!!!

[@zombieqtr]

Wow very very detailed, you are awesome sir.

[@3limin4t0r]

What about purchasing less than 50% armour after your first weapon buy? The lower absorption rate will make it a more efficient investment, since it lets a larger portion of damage through for you to heal. Alternatively you could drop some dosh on the ground to partially buy armour, assuming you have a non-random team that wont steal your dosh.

[@shugokithebackbreaker110]

Love your guides. Thanks a lot!!!

[@ponocni1]

I Generally purchace armor when i have at least T2 or T3 weapon and heavy hitters like fleshpounds and skrakes starts to spawns. Before that its quite literally waste of money if you have at least half competent medic or you dont do too much mistakes. Also its nice when your support takes that improved refilling that gives some body armor too, that is really good for economy.

[@ababab678]

I appreciate the KF2 videos dude, 👍.

[@armesisp3201]

Wow so many new updates, i gotta play this game again.

[@kevthefast]

Another nice video as usual.

[@TylerPKegger]

I throw my weapons before I die on endless if I’m corned so I can go get them after the wave is over if my teammates live through it.

[@SeedemFeedemRobots]

For me, i buy armour on round 4 after i top off my main gun and bring my other weapons ammo out of the red. and never really use armour on berserker as the damage reduction from parry skill is quite powerful and you should regain your health quickly enough with skrimisher and vampire skills (or when going dreadnought im confident with our teams medic)

[@DaArmoredBear]

I'm glad to see you doing this series again. Will you cover all the perks too along with the Zed's?

[@Foxhound3857]

I start buying armor at Wave 7, when Triple Fleshpounds become a thing.

[@Odd-Definition]

I got a fucking body armor advertisement before watching this haha

[@spongygames]

Always kit out first, unless you wanna be a tank.

[@tomas3034]

I hate the trader saying and repeating "buy some armor" cause its waste of money before Fleshpounds spawn

[@lonelypotato520]

Alright time to autofi- fuck, my armor isn’t full

[@ericaugusto758]

Buying armour is a pretty big decision But usually i buy armour just for a "filler" When u done buying all higher tier weapon and relading the ammo I use whatever spare money to just fill it up Weapon is still my focus tho Edit : IMO zerk is not a good armour buyer Ofc except in the later round when it will actually make a difference from dying or not Still, generally zerk doesnt need armour

[@fangbonnefoy9543]

Personally since I use gunslinger and kite enemies I usually don't get hit so until I max out my weapons to where they should be I don't buy armor. Also on farmhouse what's the best place to kite enemies. I usually use the opposite side of the yard that the barn is at

[@Leonidas_T0rres]

Start with swat lv.25, you will have 100 armour for free and if you are good player that armour can survive 3 waves for free

[@zcplayer1]

Great great job.

[@kiyoshimiyasato7324]

You want to know why you shouldn't buy armor on a team game? Because you leave those dedicated healing Medics with less job to do and less money to earn (healing is a good and free income source)

[@AokiZeto]

8:00 i know i come 4 year later, but still, if u dont get hit much(or at all) the value lost isnt that great. tho health cost nothin to be refill, if an error is made u risk death with armor.

[@AJ-zu7ct]

Hey Dangles, what happens when you upgrade the RPG-7

[@RichardDangles]

It gains a damage multiplier and blast radius multiplier of 1.1x. Or, in other words, it gains 10% more damage and blast radius.

[@AJ-zu7ct]

Richard Dangles Nice

[@sneakyangels9156]

What happens is that it breaks the 1-shot treshhold for Scrakes on a 6 man HoE game. A Demolitionist with the right skills will therefore find headshotting a Scrake once without any setup to be extremely useful. Combine that with a shot on the leg of Fleshpounds knocking them down and allowing you to quickly shoot 2 more shots to kill them before even reaching you making Demolitionist very useful against both Scrakes and Fleshpounds if the team communicates well and protects the Demolitionist. LLLLL, level 25, RPG-7 (Tier 5 (+1)), C4, Desert Eagle would be best since Desert Eagle also has a good ammo reserve and reaches Gorefast 1-shot decapitation treshhold.

[@dannyvizcarra]

I only buy ammo for the last round

[@ReSpark141]

is it me or is armoe now just extra health? i dont remember taking health damage with armor until the armor was depleted

[@RealityMFiction]

I was wondering if that was in k1?

[@ReSpark141]

@@RealityMFiction cant be sure

[@leonardoklausmann7972]

Another wonderful video, thank you, Richard! Cannot belive this has 24,000 views and only 750 likes. Like it folks, it helps the channel.

[@CloakedJester]

You would need to ditch symbiotic healing to use resillience, wouldn't you ?

[@RichardDangles]

Antoine Cheingold Yes. But hey you don’t need to heal if you don’t take damage

[@xxevildoctorxx2162]

I usually buy armor at wave 4/10, max wave i didnt buy armor is 5, dun want to get destroyed by big zeds

[@BonelessBuns]

I always start with the commando,with double 9mm pistols and 50 points of armor. In round 2 i change to other,i only use the commando for this...

[@makzammo]

Can someone tell me the intro song cause I wanna listen to this while kicking zed ass

[@kishi8774]

I dont buy armor for more challenge ..

[@870gamer4]

What is the intro music Richard

[@ChangedThingsUp..]

Medic and Bezerker, waste of Dosh at any wave. Hey Dangles, you run PS4 platform? Because I would enjoy seeing your skill, firsthand.

[@RichardDangles]

Not at all, the medic in particular get's a pretty good deal on armor, especially if you're playing a solo game or with not good teammates/pubs. Paying 1.7 Dosh per armor compared to 3, very useful if things go south and you're the lone survivor of a rather hectic wave.

[@inblockchainwetrust]

Richard Dangles, we agree to disagree. Which weapon do you get àyour 1st time at trader, as commando? What's your 4th wave loadout as Commando? I appreciate your opinion if I agree or not?

[@RichardDangles]

Usually after wave one I may just buy a mag for the AR-15, the first real purchase is the AK-12. Then I upgrade it to tier 4, then Medic AR or Tier 5, then whatever I didn't buy last time. End loadout T5 AK, Medic AR.

[@saluu9573]

So that's why when I have 100 armor it stays for a few rounds and then when it drops below 80 *bam* its gone and my team mates spam rip. ~fire bug all da way.

[@NotSam09]

11 minutes of pure armor mechanics, clearly not brief

[@mihaim722]

What is the name of the song in his intro?

[@dieterdewet7045]

Song playing in the intro

[@greygray6230]

Dieter De Wet it’s trash by Can

[@jeanmichel8919]

@@greygray6230 Hello Can you send a link to the vidéos please?

[@Shadowarfare117]

How do you reconfigure your perk midgame?

[@un-capital3666]

Reselect them during trader time, and they'll change before the round starts.

[@honda-priuss]

My theory on armor... *BUY IT, IS NICE* I often give 300 dosh to teammates for them to buy armor. Like Torb from Overwatch, *ARMOR HERE*

[@icata12345]

never buy amror on tank berserker is waste of dosh

[@kylekomicbro1836]

Vote yes for scout perk for those who Hit and run like me

[@Neceroe]

Not first

[@Prodigial]

I REALLY don't think running Resilience for the Medic is the best option. Running LLLLL is probably best (or LLLLR maybe with the new weapon coming out). Besides, Symbiotic Health is broken OP if you run the rest of the perks that buff teammates. Why? Because if you run Symbiotic Healing and buff your teammates, you ALSO give yourself the buffs. Coagulant Booster gives teammates a 10% increase in damage resistance that can stack up to 30%. What this means is, as long as you keep healing your team, you are basically giving yourself permanent 30% damage resistance. This doesn't even take into account the bonuses from Adrenaline Shot or Focus Injection. Please, if you play Medic, ALWAYS use full L side of the tree for everything other than solo play!

[@RichardDangles]

I disagree, I still feel pretty confident in using resilience especially on smaller games. I'm not saying its for every playthrough, or every team. But saying always is a bad suggestion in this case due to the fact that you aren't always healing and coagulant boosters timer is quite limited even with rather frequent healing.

[@Prodigial]

If you run Meditech 401 Assault Rifle and are level 25 with the increased syringe recharge, you pretty much CAN always be healing. Obviously you're going to be shooting trash for the most part, but when the team starts to get overrun (the time in the game Medic is supposed to shine the most), you should be spamming healing dart to the point where you pretty much ALWAYS have your stacks at max on yourself. I've been able to do it consistently, so I know it's possible. I really don't see how 50% damage resistance is even CLOSE to the potential for 30% increased movement speed, 20% damage increase, and 30% damage resistance. I get that, in order to get those bonuses, it's dependent on the condition of you healing your team, but Berserkers universally run Parry over Resistance, and it's conditional as well. Additionally, as you pointed out, you're left with only 50 HP (at best if you want the full 50% resistance), which can suddenly evaporate if you lose your armor. It also isn't as good for the boss for the very reason that you can often get your armor bursted down quickly when against Patriarch (the only boss people really ever wipe to). I'm not trying to be disparaging to you; I think you make great videos and make a valid point, but I've also played Medic a ton and think Symbiotic Health is really underrated (it's one of the best perks in the game IMO, but a lot of people choose Resilience because they don't know the synergy of Symbiotic Health with all of the other Medic perks).

[@miciso666]

when u clocked 2000 hours on kf2 are a pro on ps4 as well. but fucking dont know any damage values or body armour values xD i admit im to stupid for that mostly.

[@miciso666]

what i hate about myself and later allies is. people always pick both armour perks. meaning theyre armour gets shredded so damn fast. why not allow hp damage? nearly every game has 1 main medic and a gunslinger/me with a medic pistol or when i swat i carry the smg. this also gets me money wich i donate to allies as a thanks for leveling my medic up

[@MajorMasonGaming]

U should start buying amour after wave 2

[@zakillah9702]

MasonPlays No. Huge money sink. Get better weapons instead.

[@digital107-_-]

MasonPlays armor is top priority

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

No. Only if your team is struggling. And if that starts happening at wave 2 already, wave 7 will be the very last you might do, with or without armour. Armour should be last priority or second to last, with upgrading taking last spot.

[@digital107-_-]

Hanfgurkenhasser amour is top priority for me

[@costcoemployee6007]

What?! If you need armor after wave 2 you need to learn how to play, unless you are playing short mode on HOE then I kinda understand

[@fishbread237]

Hundred first!

[@stevens3199]

Second, love your vids

[@kurball1772]

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[@tmc_guy4288]

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[@Athaeme]

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[@laffytaffy6930]

Keep up the great content!