Killing Floor 2 Perk Guide - [Killing Floor 2] Support - Perk Guide #4

[@KamikazeeDolphin]

Shout out to the Supporties who let you grab ammo from them during trader time, allowing you to save dosh on resupplying

[@matthewmassengill1509]

KamikazeeDolphin your welcome

[@lonelypotato520]

Me: “Hmm I wonder if I can grab some grenades or ammo” Support and demolitionists straddling the trader pod: “No.”

[@QuickQuips]

Then again giving 20 armor later in the round has its benefit.

[@davecrupel2817]

You're welcome. ^_^

[@ArmanGT]

"Press E to use Trader" *inches backwards, facing support* "Press E to use Trader" *inches backwards* "Press E to *leaves*"

[@DoctuhD]

When using a tube-fed shotgun (M4, SG-500, Trench), the first round you reload from 0 takes much longer than the rest, so watch your ammo and reload when you have 1 shot left instead of using them all.

[@Psychoangel-d23]

Generally its adviced to reload as often as possible. When you lets say wasted the bigger zeds and only a few cysts is what you face. Loading 1 or 2 Shells before finishing them off before their reinforcements arrive.

[@butnuster354]

he actually mentioned the rechambering thing in the outdated version of this guide but i guess he forgot to in this one.

[@thetute59]

The answer to "what happens if we use 100% of our brain`?"

[@autumnwitchmaple]

Richard, you've struck gold here. Excellent information, no flaws I can see, well presented, with great counterpoints to several suboptimal choices and perk complaints. Full marks here, friend.

[@autumnwitchmaple]

@@simplerabbit2186 hahaha, if you trudge around you'll see me credit you in various informative comments. Just want to give ol' Rich the praise due for working hard to realign himself with the accuracy the community deserves.

[@LaputanMachad]

You managed to upload a guide for my favorite class on my birthday. 11/10 my guy.

[@jtktomb8598]

Nice !

[@kharnthebetrayer250]

That’s fucking cool

[@HaircombMan]

Happy birthday m8

[@onioncum446]

Ireadthisonmybdaywoahtrippy

[@brucehc4975]

11:09 *EAT HURT*

[@icewolf4978]

[YES]

[@kenofjustice212]

Support is one of my favorite perks, but the first few levels are BRUTAL because you just don't have the firepower yet. I like getting the HZ12 early on, since it can deal with pretty much everything that's not a Large Zed in one 2-round burst. Then I get the Doomstick as soon as I can afford it and upgrade both as far as possible. Oh, and King Fleshpound is just THE WORST without a Support and a Medic.

[@squirrely_wrath]

just go with the starting weapon, then the double barrel, then upgrade or get a AA12, keep upgrading those. its a breeze. edit: the alt fire on the double barrel is a life saver

[@thetute59]

Support and early weapons is the shit imho. When Im survivalist or medic and I get my hands on the standard shotty stuff is going to die, I love it.

[@laflux]

I try to get the M4 as soon as possible even if means selling the starting shotgun.

[@serpentmongrel]

The double barrel is a beast. Costs 750 dosh, wide spread, high damage, squares up well against scrakes and fleshpounds, and it pairs up well with most other weapons (if not all) in a loadout. And jumping backwards with the alt fire can get you good distance in the event you need to be evasive, which can be a useful trade off at the cost of your ammo.

[@ilovehertodeath]

I find the support is basically in the perfect spot right now. If they nerfed support at all they would be too weak, but if they buffed them they would be too strong. They are right where they need to be, great for killing groups of trash, being able to drop scrakes and fleshpounds with headshots, and great to have on a boss wave for solid damage and the extra ammo and possibly extra armor.

[@autumnwitchmaple]

Takaithepanda Yeah, I actually agree wholeheartedly. What I love most about them is that they really are a support class. They are the tertiary member. You have a commando, a slinger and sharp, and then in between all the cracks is the support. It just feels so perfectly designed. Not only is the balance perfect as you said, but i feel the support is in a place where the perk is "perfectly itself" right now.

[@ilovehertodeath]

Cyberpunk Seven Support is my main, and I love it. They can handle themselves, or really help bring down a priority target.

[@autumnwitchmaple]

Definitely a fun class. That and commando have been my most played as of late. Cheers, have a good one.

[@ilovehertodeath]

Cyberpunk Seven You too, and Commando is really fun post 20.

[@hotslice7704]

HOOOOOOOOOO TIME FOR 75% MORE AMMO IN THE CLIP THAN 50% BITCHES!!!!!!!!

[@psycosanches589]

STOP TELLING ME ALL MY FAVORITE PICKS ARE USELESS! ;A;

[@psycosanches589]

I love the trench gun....

[@SalaComMander]

I personally love the trenchgun. I admit it's the least helpful gun in my arsenal, but I've built my support build around...supporting...Which for me means filling in small but necessary jobs that my team may not be prepared for, and while Bloats may not be a high priority target, if we don't have a Firebug, they can eat a lot of ammo (get it...because they're fat). The trenchgun takes care of them pretty fast.

[@psycosanches589]

SalaComMander I would say that’s the same for EDARs, but an EDAR can be taken down super easy with even a basic, unleveled 9mm

[@BDozer666]

Problem with Trenchgun is that it's not that good vs Bloats. The DOT isn't strong enough to quickly kill it through body damage, using it on Support means you don't have the DOT time extending skills to even do so with one shot, and it's too inaccurate for headshots compared to other choices.

[@brancakes8888]

"Profesionals" like to do that a lot, just do what you wanna do and only follow this advice if you really feel like it is actually going to benefit you. Otherwise, just do your own thing and have fun.

[@maxducks2001]

I just started playing the game, so I decided to go through the basic training scenario with every class to see how I liked them. One of the later perks I tested was Support. The pump shotgun awoke some primal instinct in me. Some feeling that went "FUCK YEAH, LET'S GOOOOOOO" Now, I get scared very easily. When I first tried to play a few months ago, Clots grabbing me scared the shit out of me and I would panic fire. But once I was able to test out the AA, I was practically taunting them in my head, daring the zeds to come and get me. And once I fired into a swarm of Crawlers and Clots, it was all over. I have officially fallen in love with Support.

[@jayfisher3359]

"Ah I feel tickles in my dangles" - Dr Steve Brule

[@pxkrow]

The Richard tickles my dangles

[@MagusTTV]

As a guy who mains Support and am working towards maxing out my Prestige Support right now, you nailed it right in the head with this guide. Keep it up.

[@CrustyTheMoist]

I absolutely love running M4/AA12 and boomstick, its such a fun loadout, especially when you trash scrakes in solo.

[@jacobwickersham2516]

Another great guide. Something you should mention about ammo based skills in the future is that you can take the skill, buy the extra ammo, throw the weapon on the ground, switch off the skill, and you'll keep the extra ammo. Works for mag boosting skills as well. Making ammo skills even worse then they already are... EDIT: Do NOT pick up any ammo boxes after you do this, however, as it will reset the ammo count for all weapons you did the trick with. Also does not work with dual wielded weapons. The mag boost skills trick, that is. You still get the extra ammo, just not the mag size boost.

[@HikariDesu]

The long awaited video has come. Loving this channel

[@JayS96Bruh]

Hey man. Been watching your videos for a while now, and as a fairly experienced (at least imo) Killing Floor player, I gotta say I love how much effort and information you put in your videos. There's always some information or strategies you share that I didn't know or hadn't thought of. Whenever I get a friend into killing floor I make sure to send them your way.

[@meganobgutzkraka2398]

HERE ME SUPPORT BROTHERS ALLOW YOUR BATTLE BROTHERS TO SUPPLY FROM YOU REMIND THEM THEY CAN FOR IF THEY DO IT SAVES THEM MONEY! ROCK ON SHOTTY BOIS!

[@Cryoyunjin]

I already know the majority of this but i still enjoy your guides because they are super entertaining

[@dingdongbellsandshotgunshe5381]

Yessssss been waiting for this thank you so much

[@xxvengefulonexx1924]

Anyone know the name of the song used from 0:00 to 2:54?

[@corereject5796]

good video, this was the first perk i got to 25 and it is probably my favourite. i love using mixed loadouts with aa12/HZ for trash + a good weapon for big ones. I used to really dislike the m4 before the upgrade system but it does so much damage now

[@DethMetalDurgn]

Skills - Tac.Reload, Salvo, Tight Choke, Resupply Pack (with friends)/Concussion Rounds (solo) and Barrage. Loadout 1 - AA-12 and BoomStick fully upgraded Loadout 2 - M4 and BoomStick fully upgraded :P Love Support... as a 3rd perk

[@coffee0093]

My favorite part about the Vlad-1k is how you can do early waves with one magazine, it's stupidly ammo efficient.

[@Wineblood]

One thing I thought would be in here, gorefasts and gorefiends take a lot of damage from shotgun type weapons and are a prioritised target for supports?

[@jacobwickersham2516]

Wineblood Any perk can kill any zed. See a zed? Kill it. But to be less of an asshole, yes, you do deal extra damage to them. They're not exactly a priority target so much as just another trash zed to shoot in the head just like everything else.

[@jacobwickersham2516]

Headhunter_FRANK You could kill him with nothing but the 9mm lol, ez boss.

[@jacobwickersham2516]

Headhunter_FRANK Eh, he's weak to fire, so caulk'n'burn would actually be pretty reasonable against him. He's one of the very few situations where firebug actually shines.

[@autumnwitchmaple]

Wineblood In my opinion, separating trash zeds from each other is not necessary. They are all killed very easily and efficiently by the people who kill them anyway. Big zeds take a bit more personalization to really take care of efficiently, so it starts to matter with them and bosses. The thing previous commenters here missed, I feel, is past the fact that any weapon can kill any zed (which is technically true), is that any weapon made to kill a tier or type of zed will do it just as well regardless. It doesn't matter that a support kills a gorfiend over a commando or a firebug, so there's no real reason to differentiate, I feel. I cannot speak for Richard's reasoning, but if I were to write the script for his guide, to be honest it would not even occur to me to mention. Cheers!

[@BDozer666]

Fully Upgraded Spitfires = Roasted Nazi boi.

[@jacobwickersham2516]

Also, rich, there seems to be a video glitch at around the 6:38 part, might need to take a look at that.

[@RichardDangles]

Jacob Wickersham I saw that too. Glad Vegas is being good to me.

[@davecrupel2817]

Do not underestimate the HZ-12. It is the best "long haul" gun in the support arsenal. And i always carry it to boss fights. Its a weapon that can deal rapid and fairly high damage with skilled recoil management. A competant support can handle a scrake or FP if not much else interferes. It is clip reloaded. And with the extended mag skill, the only way you will deplete your huge ammo supply with this gun is if you try to. It has a reasonable choke, and damage at a reasonable range for a shotgun. So you can do multi-kills on trash even at range. It is an *excellent* all around gun. And i havent used the m4 in 2 years because of it. If i need a tighter spread weapon, i ccan hold onto the sg500 untill i get the aa12. And the AA-12, with mag extension, is fantastic against bosses and Scrakes/FPs. Nail gun? What is that?

[@OrdinaryOrchid]

"clip reloaded" AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@BattleKegGreg]

The octabarrel devastator: doomstick, boomstick, dual 9s. If only you could swing the double barrel pump action in there as well

[@Kufion]

tough class to survive when in a tight situation with no medic, thanks for the guide. i love the m4 and boomstick, doomstick... well, i hate how dumb that when you alt fire and then reload, you just randomly shoot one of your shell out of nowhere. to get rid of this you have to reswitch. but im a ps4 player and sometimes i dont like reaching my fingers to press the triangle button

[@Henning00007]

Doesn't happen on PC (at least not for me)

[@gubbica99]

it all depends on map , teammates that choose class and such , playing HoE without medic is simply dumb when i see such team i usually choose other server,

[@thetute59]

@@gubbica99 I just take you play medic yourself regularly?

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

Is it just me, or do the KF2 Shotguns just not got as much of an actual bite to their folley this time around? Half the time firing them they seem so.... quiet compared to the big blams of the KF1 ones :S

[@jtktomb8598]

there is a good mod to replace the sounds of most weapons

[@ghoulbuster1]

PLEASE tell the name. Loud, meaty sounds make or brake a weapon for me.

[@jtktomb8598]

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=826725654 installation is manual, but simple

[@octaviogonzalez8794]

Gratuitous Lurking The KF1 shotguns would shake the screen and everything haha

[@TheCuriosity8]

It's funny, the first KF had such great gun sounds that they were lauded for it, so for KF2, knowing we loved that aspect, they spent a bunch of money recording the real life weapons with high fidelity sound equipment in a field. All to make sure that they had the best gun sounds possible, only for us to realize that we prefer fake guns done well. lol

[@laffytaffy6930]

I already know this video is going to be great

[@ac8326]

QUALITY videos my man. Good job

[@djtrac3r935]

I remember I launched a scrake and a fleshpound across the map with a single doomstick alt Fire to the face, I laughed my ass off when I saw them fly out of the map xD

[@wingjaigaming8240]

4:19 is that... Dust 2 from CSGO?

[@graysonwolfgang5003]

Great content as always mate

[@Psychoangel-d23]

Hmm... no AA-12+M4 ladout? Both can be maxed out and The M4 takes 2 shots in solo on HOE for a fleshpound if all Pellets hit. AA-12 is for Trash or if you need to finish off that fleshpound.

[@RichardDangles]

Psychoangel The AA12 is better with extended mags while the M4 is better with tactical reload. Also most people do not play solo.

[@Psychoangel-d23]

@@RichardDangles just sayin. I usually play with 3 Friends and it still feels like a better Option than carrying the doomstick or boomstick instead.

[@RichardDangles]

Psychoangel That’s fair. I could make a 10 minute video on loadouts. I wanted to stick with three solid choices.

[@Psychoangel-d23]

The M4 takes out quarterpounds stupidly quick. There is no need to stumble when its already Dead. With tight choke you can reliably dump all Pellets Into a big zed face. Its high Burst dps with tight spread allows to quickly Take down scrakes if you have the room to do so. The AA12 is more of a fallback weapon in that Situation.

[@allhailthecartlord7256]

Myself, in Solo Hard, I use the M4 to mop trash, and the Doomstick if any FPs need deleted.

[@FlarGarg]

I`ve spend about 3\4 of my KF2 time as Support. Somehow i think it`s got a bit less powerful with latest updates tho :C Thank you for guides, they are really useful and detailed!

[@sebastiansolis5224]

It honestly isn't a bad idea to pick up the Kaboomstick from Demo since it is a shotgun and gives you more room/hallway clearing ability

[@ryanmalinowski7529]

How do you feel about the change to the dragonbreath? Lower pellet count, higher damage per pellet, 100% chance to set floor on fire.

[@Thrasher420]

Such well made videos! Love them

[@MrZega000]

AA12 is all you need. Yeah I buy other things with it, but I never NEED them.

[@cincinnatixdxd5055]

Most my game comes down to how fast can i get my AA12 and then trying to upgrade it and keeping ammo stocked. Its strong enough weapon to have whole builds based around it.

[@desperlol]

feel like this video could've been a bit more open-minded. there wasn't any real acknowledgement/discussion on fortitude, armor piercing shot and penetrator, the three (i assume) least used skills for the support. i like seeing people discuss the benefits and potentials of off-meta compositions in games. when you only showcase the "better" skills then it becomes less of an introduction to the perk, and more showing a viewer how they should play said perk, with no encouragement in experimenting and personalization, and in some cases fun.

[@desperlol]

hope this didn't come off as me being irritating, just expressing an opinon

[@jacobwickersham2516]

desperlol Firstly, penetrater is just awful, no questions asked. In comparison to being able to fire in real time, it's just hot garbage. Armour piercing rounds can actually be really good for clearing trash. The issue is that you're giving up being able to do consistent big zed takedowns at more than just point blank to close range, and it just isn't a worthy trade off. Fortitude is just bad. There is never a situation where you would want to trade more dps for more survivability, and is why survivalist as a concept is dumb. Why bother going for more survivability when you can just kill the zeds before they can ever hurt you? This isn't a case of people not wanting to experiment. People HAVE experimented with these, and in doing so, have found out they just aren't worth taking.

[@jacobwickersham2516]

desperlol And also, some people, like me, have fun in these games by optimizing the fuck out of skills, perks, etc. It isn't fair to assume that using the meta in a game isn't fun for different people.

[@desperlol]

sorry, i never assumed that no one ever had fun in having meta-optimal loadouts. personalization in itself is just optimizing your loadout to your specific needs as a player. it's just that this video is really only showing those meta-optimal loadouts and how you *should* play a perk, rather than being a more inclusive guide on how you *can* play a perk. it's dismissive to just write-off these skills as not worth it for any player. of course, people have experimented with these and found them not worth it for themselves, but some players really do find abilities like fortitude and berserker rage to be beneficial for them over their counterparts, and it'd be nice to hear things like how it exactly helps a player out in a positive/neutral stance rather than saying it's terrible, should never be picked, calling it meanie names, etc.

[@jacobwickersham2516]

desperlol First off, thank you for acknowledging my point about fun. Allow me to elaborate on why I said the things I did. The point of this video series is to be a guide. Therefore, he is going to write off skills and weapons that aren't worth it. That is to be expected of a guide. You CAN play the perk any way you want, no one is stopping you. However, this is a team based pve game where picking the best loadout is paramount to being as big of an addition to the team as you can be. It is therefore okay for him to state that certain weapons and skills are just not worth it. Do I think he could have explained better why fortitude, armour piercing rounds, and penetrator are bad? Absolutely, and that is a criticism I have for him. If you still want to play the perk however you want, more power to you. Just don't expect others to be too happy when you tell them you're using something that is not optimal. I'd stick to solo for screwing around.

[@6Hikari6]

Interesting loadouts, I always use AA12 and Boomstick hm

[@darkmage7294]

Ah, man of culture as well

[@dude2765]

I remember the time where the M4 shotgun was apparently trash according to the "meta."

[@RichardDangles]

Ed P oh how the tables have turned.

[@QuickQuips]

Well there were quite a few changes. Making it lighter and more powerful makes it more viable.

[@davecrupel2817]

I consider it trash to this day. The aa12 and hz12 are my babies. I only use the boomstick when i want some hilarious ragdoll physics. And the doomstick doesnt do enough damage to be worth the name it bears or the weight it is. The m4's reloading has gotten me killed more than the sg500's. Not worth it for me. If it had twice as many shells, I'd consider trying it again. Switch it for the KSG with the 18-24 loaded slugs. THAT would be my favorite gun

[@butterwantschoclate9364]

@@davecrupel2817 lol the doomstick can one or two shot scrapes and fleshpounds

[@davecrupel2817]

@@butterwantschoclate9364 i have never been able to do that even on normal difficulty.

[@bigdaddy9855]

Great video Richard

[@tophatstudios9069]

would love to see some of these get an updated video

[@Baro_Fjellheim]

With the Doomstick getting a buff in the Halloween update I personally run this loadout: I call it the Penetration Station LVL 5: Tactical Reload LVL 10: Salvo LVL 15: Tight Choke LVL 20: Resupply Pack (Then Concussion Rounds for boss) LVL 25: Penetrator And weapons I run: Tier 5 Double Barrel Boomstick Tier 5 Doomstick And Tier 2 HM Tech 101 Pistol It's a good Solo build plus good at trash clearing and big game hunting in multiplayer

[@Nau9292]

as a support main i have to say, its extemelly satisfying to sent an SC or an FP flying with the doomstick

[@duplexitydave]

Keep up the great content man!

[@cellardoor4014]

i rarely change my perks in-game, but now i think i'm going to have to. i also main support and try to make my pump last as long as possible, so the toss to tm8/resupply/tossback is a good tricki hadn't thought of

[@knowledge3207]

Weapons wise i really like to choose the AA and medic shotgun. What is good too is AA and M4. You have to see for yourself. I always roll with one of these two. Depends on the team im in

[@iantate9999]

I'm really shocked the dragons breath got shit on. I'm 5th prestige max level support and the dragons breath has always been a good go to. Fits the role perfectly for clearing Trash and getting assists for easy level ups and does great in early rounds.

[@HecticSMOK3R]

Wow, great guide! Thanks man!

[@darknoobboi5195]

Being a field medic main and low level support i actually take the medic shotgun with the doomstick they pair pretty well with the trash clear and large zed killer

[@Miteusz1]

6:35 Why there is perk summary during dragon's breath description?

[@Joshuadrache]

The Hz-12 is extremly powerful. Don't underestimate this gun. Almost the damage of the boomstick, 2 quick shots (like the boomstick), 16 rounds, fast reaload, high ammo gain through boxes…

[@QuickQuips]

Joshuadrache yeah it's one of my favorite trash cleaners. The penetration is very useful and tight spread keeps its biggest flaw in check.

[@HoundNL]

I like to use the M4, Boomstick and a medical weapon, if possible the medic shotgun, it's just touché

[@Kajnake]

Im watching every class video of yours to up my survivalist game :^)

[@hamzahussain7794]

One valuable thing that I have learned is that aiming for center mass is weirdly far more effective especially for hz12. I don't know about the other ones, I'll practice more with m4.

[@benjaminrobledo5466]

3:58 What map is that? Steam Workshop map? - If so. Can I get the name of it please and thank you. Oh and map name at 5:57 too, please.

[@Kmn483]

5:57 is a default map, I believe horizone lab. IK he's in the same map for the next minute so see if anything looks familiar.

[@benjaminrobledo5466]

@@Kmn483 Yeah, I recognize the 2nd map now. Still not the first one.

[@MoietchatGaming]

Another great guide

[@Anintora]

As a solo player, I love using the T5 AA-12 and T5 M4 for endless games. It is absolutely devastating against almost everything, only ever struggling vs the occasional fleshpound.

[@skel_i_tn3643]

1:52 was that dust 2? did you get your games mixed up?

[@snakeyman5560]

I miss the KSG and the dragons breath from the first game. :-(

[@Miteusz1]

0:56 There should be written "+1 carry capacity per five levels" instead of "+1 carry capacity per level".

[@nomad13371]

Yea i was looking for that, i was like how the hell they do those upgrades i dont have enough carry capacity. Thanks

[@J.Arnold]

Great video!

[@katytis2012]

12:21 Lol omg wtf?! 😂

[@jtktomb8598]

the good ol' quantum bloat

[@mauaraya141]

HA wtf

[@hurfnurf2487]

I got a glitch where all my perks are stuck at a certain level like I cant level past 10 as support. During game i can get it too level 11 but after it goes back down too 10. I play on xbox is there anyone who can help?

[@FoxTornado]

The devs know about it and are trying to figure it out. Here's the link to the forum forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forum/killing-floor-2/kf2-news-and-announcements/news-and-announcements-af/2333521-xbox-stats-progression-issue

[@resudog858]

my loadout is usually CO-OP: HMT 301 and Doomstick Solo: VLAD-1000 and Doomstick

[@titanoffire0474]

Oh I'm itching for the Firebug video!

[@schnozbott]

This guide fails to mention one oddity of the Support's arsenal. Shotgun pellets are always considered to be projectiles in KF2, even outside of zed time, due to the lower muzzle velocity of shotguns in real life. A good Support player will have to take the pellet travel time into account when aiming for zeds at range that are moving laterally to the player's position at all. Aside from this, I consider Support to be the best perk in the game for versatility and overall utility.

[@Tr8oR_V1]

As my loadout I use is AA-12 and M4, all upgraded to highest tier, AA-12 has lower damage than the M4 but higher fire rate and mag size, it's used to kill trash and save my teammates from being surrounded, M4 is used to dispose large Zeds. Perks are tactical reload, salvo, tight choke, resupply pack and barrage, resupply pack is always on my list to give my team more ammo and armor to save dosh.

[@lordunidas5558]

Now I disagree strongly with the dragonsbreath. Especially playing solo,ill take this gun and a doomstick to the boss. The ground fire,huge radius of efficiency and the damage is not too low not including the burn afterwards

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

Note: Concussion Rounds are not required to stumble a raging Fleshpound with the Doomstick. At least in the testing I did.

[@Juno101]

This Changing skills between waves is fun and all, but you forget one thing hon... ...✨Laziness✨

[@vladimirvonkleist5731]

Support class, best class!

[@Chilionloppu]

For me AA-12 and Boomstick is the bread and butter combination with room for HZ12 or medic pistol + weapon upgrades. I find tight choke redundant outside bosses since support is meant to clear large packs and tight choke just makes the cone of death smaller without really having much of an impact. Armor piercing shot makes the AA-12 extremely good when dealing with big zeds since you pretty much kill everything behind the big zeds, sometimes including other big zeds since damage after penetration is based on remaining penetration power. It also makes bloats much more bearable since they have a very high penetration resistance and might otherwise block a lot of the pellets when clearing corridors or when opening doors with pile of enemies. Resupply pack and concussion rounds is a 50/50 in my opinion, since there are many classes with crowd control already and the resupply pack helps with ammo economy. Most of the time big zeds die before they get a chance to deal damage anyways, and more ammo helps with that. Upgrades on support weapons still feel quite lackluster, since the damage increases are really small while limiting your versatility.

[@RichardDangles]

Chilionloppu The Support is a big zed killer too, and not running tight choke ruins it. Penetration is already good against trash and can actually be an issue with big zeds on the field. Tight choke just means you hit what you intend.

[@Davtwan]

I have an idea that could partly negate the long reload with guns that are reloaded one-shell at a time. What if there was a skill that would allow the player to add two shells at a time?

[@Deshenne]

strange the dragon's breath on kf 1 usually was the best weapon to deal whit most zed even if you where not a firebug at the moment.

[@reaperkillz2420]

I like the Doom and Boom combo. Wrecks everything.

[@nexus0129]

I don't agree at all with what you said about tube-fed shotguns. I think tube-fed shotguns are far more superiore than box-fed ones, at least in a zombie game such as Killing floor. Reason being, you can ALWAYS shoot an enemy in front of you without having to finish the reload like box-fed ones have to. Example: you're running from some zeds and deplete your magazine, while you're running some zeds (most commonly stalkers or spiders) come from the direction you're running towards, with box-fed shotguns and any other weapon you would have to completely reload your gun before you can shoot it again and kill that one zed that is blocking you. The zeds will trap you and you take damage while reloading your gun. With tube fed shotguns instead this won't happen because they are the only type of weapon which can shoot while you're reloading! You don't have to wait to fully reload all the sheels, you can just shoot them whenever want, you will be able to kill that one zed that is blocking you from behind and avoid getting cornered or trapped by zeds coming from opposite directions. This is also the reason why I think shotguns are the best weapons to make a withdraw or a change of position with, which in games like KF2 happens very often. Plus, as one of the top comments said, a good support always keeps an eye on their shells count because you never want it to go to 0. If it goes to 0 you will take more time to reload you first shell because of an additional animation, always reload when you have 1 shell left. So yeah I think tube-fed SGs are far more superior than box-fed ones in videogames. Sometimes I won't take the AA12 and stick with a +2 upgraded M14 because I want the benefit of being able to always shoot what's in front of me without having to wait for the entire reload and taking damage for free or worse, ending up trapped by zeds

[@Northstarpri]

what is the map name for the one that you killed mutliple fleshpounds on

[@HoboVibingToMusic]

I'm so used to aa-12 double barrel medic shotgun combo. That was just god tier on 6p games. But nowadays the loadout is boned. So RIP triple shootiegun

[@PGFXKiu]

I must be the only one who likes the HZ12. Instead of cashing out both shots asap I just do a steady rate of fire on trash, and save the boomstick for the big Zeds.

[@shane3429]

I wreck with the dragons breath on big ZEDS. I shoot the fp/scrake until they get stunned by being engulfed, then swap to the m4/aa12 and unload. The classic one-two punch. Great video nevertheless!

[@ZeR-hw3to]

Does somebody know the name of the intro song for all these class videos ?

[@felipekunzler9618]

what map in 4:02?

[@eobardthawne3333]

I always go for the hz12 first. Excellent trash cleaner, and has plenty ammo, then I get a doomstick for the boss.

[@manuel0ggiano128]

Song name?

[@suffhunter23]

will you update these guides? with new content and such

[@geraltofrivia3012]

Please update the rest of your guides

[@louiegarcia3255]

I’m guessing he plays PC? I’ve never seen the CSGO map before and I assume that’s a pc only map?

[@josephpriest4925]

It's probably a workshop map, "if you can make your own maps someone's already made a Dust 2"

[@serendipity_hunter3974]

From the time I first used the boomstick it was true love though it does take getting use to. I usually go with either boomstick + M4 or boomstick doomstick combo though honestly it takes getting use to and you should definitely have all your ducks in a row if used. For obvious reasons.

[@boltactionbiz3009]

You forgot to mention the the double barrel boomstick sends trash to space with headshots. Or just turns them to spaghetti. Either works.

[@lunnihyre4215]

3:38 wait you're playing on dust2 tf is that a mod?

[@870gamer4]

What is the intro music Richard

[@laflux]

I might be doing it wrong. I use the M4 for small to meduim zeds and I just unload a AA12 into Fleshpound. I get the DPS of an M4 is higher but the larger mag of the AA12 gives you more unrelenting Firepower imo

[@hozansaid9748]

I would rather use the m4 its Very effective

[@Derpmind]

You underestimate the med shotgun. It's a clip-fed shotgun that can be paired with the AA-12 and high-capacity magazines.

[@RichardDangles]

Derpmind The M4 is much better for damage per second. The nail gun is also a better pair with the AA12 for trash cleaning.

[@hunganh677]

Can I build Doomstick and AA12 at same time when my perk lv reach 25 ?

[@dowjonesjones9450]

Good video

[@frappemresh]

If it's possible can you explain fire damage and zed time inferno work for DoT?

[@HikariDesu]

Been playing for awhile now but always wanted to know this, what is wield proficiency?

[@TdogplaysCOD]

MikeKage How effective wielding is. The support can weld doors faster and costing less of the welder’s charge.

[@HikariDesu]

Tdog plays ohh ok that makes sense. I’ve literally always wondered lol