I think scar has own advantages over fn fal. It has better scope, less recoil and bigger ammo capacity. So its better for newbies. + you can go in full damage expensive build if you have good medic. Scar + fn fal. So scar has own place in commando arsenal. And i think scar just overall very satisfying to use. I just like to shoot with this gun even if it has nothing special
@wirz5053 жыл бұрын
Easily A tier IMO.
@1stapostleofsora3 жыл бұрын
i like scar too coz its not clunky and less recoil which is good for me with potato aim.
@wirz5053 жыл бұрын
@@wessley1246 I agree; furthermore, relatively low weight for more flexibility in loadout with a high ammo cache.
@flashn00b3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I've found myself using FAL+HM101+SCAR in a few cases where the FAL+HM401 combo isn't cutting it. And even if you trust the 401 in killing mediums, you might swap it out for a SCAR during the boss wave.
@knightslayer61613 жыл бұрын
Many guns would be more viable if we could change attachments like in cod. But those effects are tied to perks which is kinda lame. Like extended mags, control etc.
@wirz5053 жыл бұрын
THIS. Older/ experimental/ "homemade" weapons makes sense that they'd have limited mod-ability but modern weapons and those designed with rail systems would really benefit from the users choice of scope (at the very least), magazine size, ammo type (like hollow/armor piercing), and under barrel (with appropriate alterations to weapon weight). Just makes more sense that the tried and true serially produced rifles of today would have some counterbalance to the imagine cannons (which I also love).
@bunnyfreakz3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mags or recoil should be upgradeable via shop. But currently upgrade system is so pisspoor.
@dylangarza25683 жыл бұрын
The scar deserves more love
@redangel62173 жыл бұрын
Personally like to pair SCAR with FN FAL because i like (and kinda have to) playing with tactician on commando, why? from personal experience slow motion starts always when i m out of ammo for me ... it happens way too many times, so i need tactician for fast reload and weapon switch, and i pair these 2 because they have high damage so i have time to reload in slow motion and kill something in time, since most of zeds will require only 1 or 2 bullets to kill.
@xpapadeliciosox39863 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the gunslinger tier list!
@sweetieswifey6273 жыл бұрын
Dude same, that's gonna be epic
@AJ-zu7ct3 жыл бұрын
Minigun in need of a buff, either faster wind up or reduced recoil OR an even BIGGER mag
@ПавелСальхин3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree
@alexander2019.3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@KusuKusuu3 жыл бұрын
Minigun got an indirect buff, you can equip the bullpup with it now. :D
@midnitesnac3 жыл бұрын
if you are at least lvl 20 you can have the extended mag perk and it will help a lot. It works extremely well against the boss and that's about it. Lvl 5 high cap mags, and lvl 15 prepared for extra mags. If you have a support it can be pretty insane.
@lordyasha59443 жыл бұрын
It needs a bigger mag because theres not a lot of difference with the stonner wich has so much less recoil and no wind up
@KniF_iNVizor3 жыл бұрын
imo would have the scar on the A too. cus it is fun to use and hits hard
@DrLoyon3 жыл бұрын
Nothing here to comment just chill
@Mertna3 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with your list, honestly would have made it the exact same way. I see the complaints about the Scar, I explained my opinion lower in the commentaries but in short, yes the gun is quite good, but it just doesn't help with what a Commando is expected to do. The gun is awkwardly designed for Commando, you'll always have a better pick when doing a specific role for the perk. C tier is exactly what it does deserve as a Commando weapon, but once again the gun itself is quite good.
@rundvi3 жыл бұрын
I played a lot of commando and I agree with your list. I usually early waves go for Tommy Gun + AR and switch to M16 + HM Tech or M16 + Fal for later waves. Unfortunately Commando is not so good on bosses, except for taking care of edars on Matriarch imo.
@YasaiDayo3 жыл бұрын
*The mini gun will remember that*
@leowei7713 жыл бұрын
The AR-15 if you ask me isn't exactly a terrible gun since it's single-fire allows for precise shots and is cheap enough that you can easily use for the first few wave to farm for higher-tier weapons very fast. It's not amazing but I say it does its job well.
@ZelArtemis3 жыл бұрын
Personally would create an F-tier and put minigun there
@Forsythe03 жыл бұрын
Mkb.42 is underrated!
@Phycorax3 жыл бұрын
Are you still Battle scarred finder?
@PathfinderBoi3 жыл бұрын
@crashbanooca3 жыл бұрын
I love my Mk b. (STG 44) if you upgrade it once it’s a recking machine 😜 for all types of zeds except Fleshys
@stevenbobbybills3 жыл бұрын
It's not an StG 44. The MKb.42(H) was one of its predecessors but they're pretty different mechanically, since the MKb.42(H) is open bolt, among other differences. The Sturmgewehr 44 is effectively the sequel.
@crashbanooca3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbobbybills I’m sorry my bad I’m usually educated in this department but that is something that I didn’t even know. I do know about the MP44 and how that became of the STG44. But thank you for informing me 👍😊
@YanWindFW3 жыл бұрын
Wondering how it will be the 30 min long survivalist weapons, haha
@timesathousand2 жыл бұрын
SCAR's main advantage is it's weight, allowing you to upgrade another weapon while still keeping a good AR at your side.
@friendlyreaper90123 жыл бұрын
I would put the 501 in s just because of its animations.
@VideojugadorIrritado3 жыл бұрын
The Bullpup+Gatling is a good combo to use the perk that increase the magazine and stopping rounds. Extends the zed time pretty well and stops scrakes and also clear pathways. The bad thing is that you need certain perks to make It worth It but is really fun when you can make a bullet storm with a support class in the team.
@Davtwan3 жыл бұрын
I think of the Mk as a diet FAL. Not as expensive or powerful, but it has plenty of ammo and does enough to get extends off medium zeds like Gorefiends and Sirens. Of course, if you have good aim and recoil-handling skills, then there’s no reason not to save up for the FAL instead. Regardless, I think the Mk is a good _gateway_ to learn the way of the FAL.
@PathfinderBoi3 жыл бұрын
The problem is you could just take the tommy gun instead, more ammo with a faster rof.
@DrLoyon3 жыл бұрын
whats the first music that plays i like it
@PathfinderBoi3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you for sure, it's some copyright free music, literally the title
@elmoandwhiteboy40533 жыл бұрын
Dizzy - Joakim Karud
@DrLoyon3 жыл бұрын
@@elmoandwhiteboy4053 thanks
@muatring3 жыл бұрын
Hard to agree with the scar placement. It totally exceeds at killing trash, medium and scrakes. With the fn doing the better job against qp and fp since if you use it for both fp qp and scrakes you will most likely run out of ammo. When holding a lane i dont need to swap from the scar to the fn to down scrakes. Neither during zed time. Where i can keep shooting at scrake head while resetting zed time by killing zed.
@milkmonstrosity2 жыл бұрын
M16 in S is a true king pick. Personally I think the Scar is really strong. The minimal recoil combined with the high damage that usually guarantees very clean and efficient kills makes it a weapon that I feel I can always rely on. In general I feel using single fire on a lot of these weapons makes them much stronger, especially the MKB. Minigun is trash though sadly, the windup and need to ADS just to fire forces you to find a spot to camp in which just isn't possible in solo games, and your payoff is a slightly stronger Stoner. It's even worse in boss waves where the rounds don't deal nearly enough damage to ever trade hits and so you just take chip damage from running too slowly until you die.
@Bear-kb4kt2 жыл бұрын
my fav perk in KF2 is Commando, i either go medic/demo or DPS/trash killer depending where my team lacks
@mazaza91073 жыл бұрын
i do not understand why you rate m16 that high and scar that low. I mean you said that m16 flash killer, but you will never kill flash on HoE with all 6 ppl in team, you only rage him. May be you mean only solo games? I personally use 401 and scar, because both have alot of ammo and good damage. In my personal experience if you play with m16 and fn-fal, you will spend all your ammo in the middle of the wave on HoE with 6 ppl in team. Any way i rly liked this video and hope you will do that kind of list for every perk, thank you.
@Mertna3 жыл бұрын
Well I'd say something he didn't talk about but, as commando you're supposed to focus trash, while dealing ok damaget to big zeds in spicy situations, when you think about it every Commando's gun are just good for the Commando's job, and if you want to go more for damage you got your very top tier pick, the FN FAL. Now the issue with Scar is that it's supposed to be a rifle that has higher damage than other rifles, while still being not enough to deal with big zeds. The gun is good, but for what a Commando is supposed to do, it doesn't really has its place, if you want to trashkill you'll focus on big mag/ammo capacity gun, if you want damage you'll carry a FN FAL for spicy situations, and if you want to support you got the medic guns. The Scar doesn't fill any of those roles, it doesn't deal enough damage to be even near the FN FAL and mag/ammo wise it's not the best aswell. For the M16, it is an efficient trash killing gun with a big mag and quite the ammo pool, which can also have it's efficiency against FP's, but more importantly, the grenades are EXCELLENT for trash crowds. TL;DR: The issue isn't really the gun, the issues is its purpose for Commando's roles.
@bunnyfreakz3 жыл бұрын
I agree he seems judge it for solo. On 6p HOE, M16 is not even good, it can't kill FP. Probably QP sometimes and ammo is so low.
@DrumCoversFromHell2 жыл бұрын
The minigun with 3% extra damage and 3x fire speed is stupid strong. That extra 3% converts to 9% extra damage as per 3x firespeed. Think about that for a second. The minigun is a big zed killer
@crazyassfights60853 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video a lot even tho ion play commando perk
@bastione98312 жыл бұрын
Minigun - Fun if you wanna mess around and have fun, but it unfortunately feels awkward to use. C Tier. Tomi Gun - Good cheap weapon, but sights are awful. C Tier. Famas - Very cool, especially for a Support main like myself. S Tier. M16 - My all-time favourite Commando weapon. S Tier. Stoner - Solid choice, I just like other waepons more. A Tier. AR-15 - D Tier. Enough said. HM Tech 401 - Solid, but forgettable for me. B Tier. AK12 - Decent weapon, but kinda bland. B Tier. Bullpup - Used to be my favourite, but now I never use it. Kinda forgettable. C Tier. Scar H - Same as AK12, but worse. C Tier. FN FAL - A damage freak, but I prefer other weapons. Still solid, though. A Tier. HM Tech 501 - Same as the 401, so B Tier. MKB - Unfortunarely underwhelming. C Tier.
@Chuck_Norris_19403 жыл бұрын
nice video, thanks for info
@PathfinderBoi3 жыл бұрын
Np man
@mattwoodard25353 жыл бұрын
I like the Scar on more wide open maps. With single shot you can practically be a Sniper with it. sm
@OGDannyD3 жыл бұрын
I've always hated the M16, it feels weak and barely has any ammo. I'm going to have to give it another chance soon
@Meinshake123 жыл бұрын
SCAR is S tier in my opinion as long as you play with single-fire mode Ammo is not a problem and the accuracy bonus that comes with playing single-fire mode make it easy as hell to pick targets (close and long range) Also it's a good zed time extender And one more thing, you don't need to ADS in this game It might just be me because I have some trigger finger and I play on controller but this weapon is always my go-to tier 4 with commando
@lewisarmitage90203 жыл бұрын
I'd swap M16 and HMTech-401, and move the SCAR up to B or A tier. 401 has a very good 40 shots in its magazine, large ammo reserves and of course its healing which is very good for helping out your team. SCAR is generic, but its damage is way too good to be compared to guns like the Mkb and Minigun. Good video though, looking forward to the Support one.
@randyer79753 жыл бұрын
Never used a minigun. The recoil is damn high
@eddiegutman17733 жыл бұрын
yo pootfunder you NEED to play The Haunted Hells Reach
@Delimon0073 жыл бұрын
The minigun is a good boss killer though for DPS lol
@KamiNekoTH3 жыл бұрын
I think I prefered HM401 + Fal for multiplayer HM401 is good for clearing trash zed good dmg + mag capacity + healing ability Fal for 1v1 large zeds
@Jester44603 жыл бұрын
Ak is a good early weapon Also mkb is good because the amount of fire power you can pull out
@lordyasha59443 жыл бұрын
I would have put bullpup and scar over ak47 because the ak47 has soo much recoil it feels like it misses shoots and its not cheap like bullpup or as strong as the scar
@Lknzvc Жыл бұрын
Excuse me? The minigun is by far the best lmao, like no discussion 😂
@pecadorr933 жыл бұрын
M16 and Hm501 and you have a commando jack of all trades
@gubbica993 жыл бұрын
SCAR easily A tier, better perfoms than AK 12 , Famas or even stoner and while using stoner u are super slow, ez A tier.
@nepsuki89123 жыл бұрын
My opinion about the bulpup, i really love to play with this weapon idk the feeling is soo nice the sounds, animations and lowkey the scope i really enjoy playing with this weapon. I even fully upgrade and keep it til boss wave.
@Cyberwings1012 жыл бұрын
With AK12 I can solo hell on earth 10 rounds sometimes win a boss fight 😆
@MayGamiing283 жыл бұрын
For me is Scar and STG 44, well but for really me, was FAL because i didnt know the first day i bought the game and play it, i didnt know that gun has Full Auto 🧡😂
@alexmoreno85303 жыл бұрын
I will say no, not agree at all :D First of all, will tell you im raising every single class, and after sharpshooter and gunsingler, I found AR15 and get fall in love with it, ofc i dont will put it on S rank.. but the animation and the dmg it deal once u update it.. can get easy and cheap to the boss round. Second i dont find the sense of mixing classes, i mean team doesnt have medic i go medic, if u are raising commando why u will pick other class weapon?, in a perfect world everybody will get HMTECH-101 as 2 weapon and help others but u know.. Looks like commando get less love from game creators than the others class (wiouth mind on survivalist), have 6 main weapons vs others 10 or more (ofc i talk wiouth any DLC). Also perks at 25.. reload and shot on real time ..., or 3% dmg and shot 3x faster.. looks like weak if u see others class. I find 2 ways for commando or go SCAR-H with Haenel MKb 42 or Stoner with ak-12 (its a crap but for weight.. its wat it fill in with the stoner) So in fact i will put ar15 a bit higher, ofc over bullpup, and maybe over minigun (which its just rly good to ensure you and only you kill the boss) Said this, I would like to see a perk class rank, after you end with the weapons :D And I really appreciate ur effor to keep this game alive more time, and the lovely community (sometimes) dat still playing it.
@ConnorTheDJ243 жыл бұрын
The Minigun needs more versatility, lol.
@TheLethalDiva3 жыл бұрын
Minigun is much better on the Survivalist than it is on the Commando, since its high weight is not really much of an issue with him.
@joseph95563 жыл бұрын
Bullpup > tommygun
@nerdnerdnerd3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, mate,, how the helll did you even think how did you sit down and make this vidoe im so confused on how you make this video? how howwwwwwwwwwwww how
@andressaniba3 жыл бұрын
Not agree at all,lets see,Stoner in A,and SCAR-H on C?? Come on...give It a try and u will see scar is a deadly damage dealer Monster,like the lovely FNFal but less recoil and Holo sight
@GNF_cao3 жыл бұрын
Ref com path ;)
@KabanchikKabanovskiy3 жыл бұрын
IMO you underappreciated AK47. Worse than Stoner? Come on. With Stoner you just waste like 20% of magazine trying to control big ass recoil and bullet spread making it a pointless waste of hard earned dosh. I'll take even unupgraded AK over Stoner any day
@zigaklun33953 жыл бұрын
ak is harder to control than stoner
@jjaybuill36853 жыл бұрын
No no no don't skip medic
@PathfinderBoi3 жыл бұрын
He really doesn't have a "arsenal" though.
@chefgrizz62843 жыл бұрын
@@PathfinderBoi pistol, SMG, AR, grenade, vampire, hemo and hemo, shotgun, mine reconstructor, and the incision. Enough to fill the tiers
@jjaybuill36853 жыл бұрын
@@PathfinderBoi you really wanna skip free content? :v
@pinkgrween3 жыл бұрын
the bastion should be a commando weapon
@Reippa3 жыл бұрын
Minigun is amazing wtf and Fal sucks my opinion don't get mad
@jenniferkitty25793 жыл бұрын
Personally i would switch the 501 with the 401 cuz i much prefer the healing nades over the darts, also id switch the bullpup with the tommygun since i really really hate thetommygun and just bump the minigun into b since i prefer it over the ak~