KIMANI NGUNJIRI: Tricks Ruto Can Employ To Handle Gen-Z

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[@simbaKevin]

This lady is in her own Kenya, her reasoning is directly related to UDA.

[@reine924]

I checked her Facebook timeline. She's a UDA a blogger who even shared a video of Ruto dancing and she commented saying that "my president ni mali safi"😏

[@qrankmw.]

ehh....they invited tribal sycophants...recycle....at this time...all these known old "demons" should have been sidelined...

[@josphatonsare9184]

She is irritating and radarless​@reine924

[@e24news_KE]

@@reine924 True her facebook does even reflect someone who understand communication at all....she is not a communcation expert but a low cadre blogger who seems not informed

[@maishjunior4651]

Very true

[@benedictkenka8896]

According to Hon. Kimani Ngunjiri there 4 groups in maandamano: 1. Genuine Gen Zs 2. A group supported by government to spoil the cause of Gen Zs. 3. Opportunist who wants to overthrow the government, 4. Opportunist who aim is just to loot. That is total WISDOM. kudos hon. Ngunjiri 👏👏👏

[@karikingori2808]

Excellent summary!

[@marshempire2927]

Noni is a communication strategist? Her communication lacks strategy.

[@e24news_KE]

🤣agreed!

[@moseskimara1526]

As a youth mentor , this lady is out of touch with the youth and next generation - Let us applause these young lads for awakening kenya .We must sort this mess .Stop stealing from the next generation - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH .

[@mkmukururi9458]

Besides 'Ruto must go' exactly how do you propose to sort out the 'mess' and will it be constitutional or it just doesn't matter?

[@sammylagat6980]

That girl is so much emotional

[@simonmakacha5810]

The moment the conversation shifted from reject to must go, the shit lost it's integrity 😢😢, but I'm hopeful the Gen Z won't be moved to the tribal lines 🇰🇪

[@KibbutzSalem]

MUST WAS NECESSITATE BY THE ENORMITY OF CORRUPTION CASES THAT WERE UNEARTHED IN THE DAYS TRANSPIRING AND THE IMPUNITY OF POLICE ,BRUTALITY, THE ABDUCTIONS, THESE LED TO RADICAIZATION......HE CHEST THUMBING RUTO FAILED TO READ THE MOOD....HE SIMPLY HARDENED AND USED THE MILITARY ON KIDS....ITS GONNA HURT THE COUNTRY BADLY.....THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE FRUSTRATED BY GOVT....THE IDS THEY DON'T GET AND THEY HAVE TO PAY 1000/- TO GET. INSHORT RUTO TARGETED THEM. HE KNEW THERE ARE OVER 14M WITHOUT IDS AND CHARGING 1K FOR EACH HE WOULD GET 14B FROM THEM, THATS MOLESTING UNEMPLOYED YOUTHS....... HE HAD THEM CORNERED

[@Nyandugu]

This lady Nonni Belle, I don't know if I spelt her name right. Man, I honestly feel sorry for her husband, let alone kids, her husband must be suffering somewhere but I digress.. She sounds like she works for government, and her profession being a Communication Strategist shows exactly what is wrong with our government. INCOMPETENCE... She doesn't understand the issue at hand, she is calling the Gen Z to have leaders who can be controlled, and that is exactly what we don't want.... Nimalizie kwa kusema, I feel sorry for the husband and kids, if they are there... Because wueh!!!!!

[@user-ny9pf4uw5u]

Well said 😂

[@wanjaugitonga2519]

Clearly, you have decided to postpone peace.

[@user-ee3cg4nk6j]

Former mp talks a lot of sense, mps now are in fear

[@georgemayo5623]

This is a change that cannot be stopped.

[@michaelkmwangi1315]

If this is the communication specialist, we are doomed. How can such argument solve government communication or institutional strategy? The two old men are applying wisdom in communication. That is what is lacking in Kenya

[@e24news_KE]

I second she does not even understand how to communicate and this is why govt communication and PR its not working

[@Alex-ls4hh]

This lady represents the many parents who do not understand that the protests are very important and necessary. Don't confuse speaking truth to power to violence. And we are not children. Stop projecting and emotional 😂

[@johnomondi2648]

Am impressed hon.Kimani Ngunjiri is way better

[@williamhullabz5239]

this is a public announcement , i from a tribe in kenya, ive lived all over the, america, india, jeddah, uk, it such a good conandrum

[@KibbutzSalem]

WE HAVE SENT AND MADE OUR DEMANDS CLEARLY THIS WOMAN IS FROM WHERE

[@Isabokeh]

Nice looking & eloquent lady with an archaic mindset. Most of the changes in this world have been brought about by people who who were bold enough to disrupt order & status quo! Be it in Technology or Social-Economic realms.

[@jacksonkitunga2464]

Wise advise to road map in making kenya state back to track___thank you Hon kimani Ngunjiri -

[@Alex-qo8ld]

Huyu mama ni bure kabisa

[@jothammaweu3005]

She's thinking in same line with Ruto, looting and destruction is more worrying than lives lost and mass looting in gvnt

[@kajole8057]

The lady didn’t come to reason but she’s just against the demos, I believe she’s a UDA strategist, let’s look at it positively!!! The msg is home from the gen-z. I support them 100%

[@jothammaweu3005]

Noni is against the gen z protests and same time pretenting to support

[@nankyndege8886]

You are not listening to what she is saying. She is not against Gen Z. She wants order, peaceful demonstrations.

[@254collins]

I agree she's pretending to support the demonstration

[@georgemayo5623]

We should make sure that the foundation of the country does not collapse, even when demonstrations are taking place.

[@junesfooddiary]

How is it we are getting more sense from Kimani than Noni. Surely as a comms person, Noni was really not a good listener and biased on her perspective.

[@stevenjagi3764]

Noni says she'll throw our youth out of Kenya as a president 😂😂

[@snjau7613]

CT never disappoints. He says Politicians have always been tribeless until their individual interests need a boost. Then they will say my tribe is being persecuted. Watch what Raila has started with his tribal goons because he can see desperate Ruto is vulnerable and is looking for a tribal chief

[@gakahuruko2331]

I know it perfectly well prevents the wasp from learning how to make honey , it applies to this Noni lady.

[@agoromdike2991]

I know it perfectly prevents the worst from making honey

[@michaelotinga-ys7ue]

We are not your kids ok

[@silvershsadow2045]

Tribalism was also escalated by the British Colonialist divide-and-rule policy, which they saw as a way to weaken any opposition to their leadership.

[@edwardmungai5540]

Thanks!

[@johnomondi2648]

Kenya is deeply tribal l must say

[@chenjaclive1336]

ambia mp atuambie mwenya alikuwa anafund goons tumsalimie na kumshame na possible justice ifanye kazi .this rethoric that leaders are afraid to say the wrong doers is unacceptable .look for instance the 4th president complained that goverment was lossing close to 600 billion to corruption why don,t they take action and they have all the reasources is this not absurd

[@victorotieno5859]

She lives in a different planet

[@silvershsadow2045]

Noni is just arguing with the inevitable. The youth's action is appropriate and in order. Citizens' vigilance is required even in developed societies. Arguing is theoretical.

[@mariapuritywangui8049]

Good morning Spice. Pls inform President to have a cabinet of eg. If he's going to have a 14 seater cabinet let it have 14 different tribes so long as they are competent and am sure they are there. People who can talk using one language.

[@getrudemukami5112]

lets be sober when discussing issue's, that is of great magnitude. By Listening nothing is big for us to solve...God gave us the knowledge, wisdom and understanding to solve issues. Focus and listening will solve issues. Accept then solve....great result.

[@zablonevusa8262]

Can the lady listen to others keenly before opening her mouth.Why is she so emotional yet we have a national problem to solve?Her husband is suffering if this is how she handles issues in the house.

[@normanmutharia3268]

Kimani would be more resourceful if you interviewed him in kikuyu or Swahili.

[@stevenjagi3764]

Self taught English but he has a point

[@user-oq9iz6wq3p]

It will be very difficult to control the new, youthful GEN Z’s because they are very highly educated, digital. All they want is accountability, people chosen on merit, transparency etc but at the same time the older generation don’t want to let go of the power of the last 70 years. They don’t want to answer any questions of their wealth/assets accumulation, they don’t believe in education, nor do they believe in accountability, transparency, good governance!

[@kileikilindaimanuel1315]

The esteemed lady currently being interviewed in the studio presents a highly rational and commendable perspective on engaging with Generation Z. It is imperative that the voices of Generation Z are heard, but this must be conducted in an orderly fashion, upholding the highest standards of decency. Indeed, His Excellency the President and other distinguished leaders have exhibited remarkable forbearance in the face of the language prevalent in Generation Z's discourse, which often includes terms such as "huyu fala" and references to one's intellect in an indecorous manner. Such vulgar and unwarranted language is unbecoming and does not contribute constructively to the dialogue.

[@karikingori2808]

Insane!!

[@Isotope387]

Your President and his government are busy plundering our country's rich resources and what you're more worried about is big grammar, polished English and decorum while communicating...FOCUS!!!

[@bryannjuguna5775]

Lol. Who is this woman? She doesnt seem to understand what is at stake here😅

[@yousefobel]

She's absolutely off topic 😅 kusoma sana pia nimbaya

[@simbaKevin]

She thinks like ancient people

[@karlossingh6450]

Look at Thailand, was Only a Fishing port in Bangkok, but the Overseas Tourists Raised the Country for What It Is, Keep the Moto of Bringing In the Tourists Trade, the Cab had boda boda Brains. 🎉 🎉 📻 🎉 ❤❤🎉 X x

[@Gemsofafrica]

I really love when Africans here n abroad are eloquent with outstanding command of the queen's language. But my ears hurt when an African twengs n makes this noises when they speak.Listen to the lady host, contrast that with this guest No, can't do

[@Gemsofafrica]

@@JUSTJOHN254 Can't blame her. Can't blame my ears either for being unable to listen to her

[@swts4k]

It is not natural and horrendous

[@svs734]

@@JUSTJOHN254 She just said she was raised in Ukambani. That twanging is a clear demonstration of her empty head.

[@nicklaus8536]

@@JUSTJOHN254 Wacha . She said she grew up in Ukambani in Primary and later went to Kikuyu. She grew on Nyayo milk.🤣🤣🤣

[@boloo2989]

The twanging involved😂😂 eish back to earth, shall we???

[@karlossingh6450]

Childish.

[@user-vl7pk2mn7e]

Poor Noni, you are out of your depth.

[@juliusmatekwa7625]

The lady talking is referring to ideal situation....Kenya things happen using force

[@nicklaus8536]

She needs to know this is not New Zealand. And cool down a bit; the anger is too much.

[@PestorsHealth]

Who is this so rigid woman? I pity the husband and everyone in her house

[@kabugamwangi6115]

Ideas all over the place

[@GG-lw4ol]

Eeh that hair should have been a sign that huyu communications strategist amekuja kuwaste time yake na yetu😂😂 Step aside, we fix this nation for those Gen Alphas you keep bringing up❗️

[@michaelkmwangi1315]

Communication is not just good English and papers. Noni seem not to get it that grandstanding does not always work unless in dictatorship. Clarity and transparency does and people will understand. Kimani has just nailed it.

[@nankyndege8886]

You think the world is only black & white? That is why you talk as you do. You will learn more as you grow.

[@matioliwamatioli5237]

Ngunjiri his Kenya together with gachagua kah8ga their Kenya mean mt Kenya and perfect hatred raila

[@mrsmwela]

Noni is Tone deaf just like Ruto 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@balikuddemberaymond8653]

What is happening now, just manifests what the Kenyans thought about the limited presidential options during the last elections. Now that what seemed the “less evil” is still a bad option. The Kenyans don’t want the same limitations of options of presidential candidates anymore .

[@user-oi7vg6sh9t]

💕👍

[@benedictkenka8896]

My goodness! This is a communication specialist 😮😮. Kindly don't bring such people like noni to waste our previous time saying nothing 😢

[@albanishmael7333]

We are not tribes, we are nations. Tribe is a negative colonial term.

[@josepharot5168]

Proverb means raila is preventing gen z from changing the way things are done,sakayo and Judas.

[@nankyndege8886]

I love the lady guest in the studio. She has the views i hold dear as an individual. All Kenyans are bound by one document. GenZ not excluded. Ww need to call a wrong as wrong & not defend it just because it is coming from Gen Z. When you organize a protest you also have to prepare to close the loopholes for infiltration, reason more why they should work with law enforcement by providing notice, routes to use, reasons for protest. & know when to call it off. It cannot go on infinitely .

[@ronaldngetich3940]

Noni has good english of the nose but makes no sense. Kimani on the other hand struggles with the queen's language but makes a lot of sense.

[@gakahuruko2331]

😂

[@muhuradedan]

Noni Belle Msoo..... That's a lovely name.

[@McFlexx254_flexing_the_city]

The Gvmnt Need to work According to The Constitution of kenya Corruption tribalism nepotism alot is happening To Africa soo we must Put our country In ord we Kenyans We are Disorganized us Country and misled by few individual who are opportunistic and greedy 😢

[@cynthiag.1306]

Ei! Maybe she had traveled and just got back to Kenya.

[@waihenyagachau5073]

This lady is big mad that a new fearless generation has come and took over their nyota period! Arudi kwake na hiyo machungu yake, anguka nayo!

[@joanmubea5469]

Yes!

[@christinemuritu9347]

Internal noise in play here

[@johnomondi2648]

I think this lady ,Nonny needs to debate somebody like Miguna Miguna ..she won't believe her eyes am sure

[@Rose-zu6zn]

Spice FM needs to choose guests more carefully. You can't have a politician with multiple cases of assault and abuse of his gun, allegations of land grabbing from elderly widows and others etc. etc. as the one who is lecturing us about good governance and anti-corruption. ... And no questions directed to him about the same!!

[@BlackZorro-jd4pg]

And people...my fellow Kenyans, please watch "the life of a cuckoo bird, the con artist."

[@jacintawaruimbo5321]

The first ward the Genzs came out was We are leaderless and triballess so their demand is covered by them

[@kajole8057]

Can you bring this lady with some of the Gen-Z’s because she thinks they are children. Maybe Mcoure and the other ladies I can’t remember their names

[@ericmusau6870]

Ngunjiri no ngombe

[@johnngigi2080]

How did this Kimani end up in an interview in a TV with such international outlook for an English channel..he can ONLY an TikTok after being taken through a rehearsal for several days.

[@LailaMohamed-b8o]

Blame the British when it comes to tribalism in Kenya.

[@patsonncube2000]

Not tribes. .we are nations

[@BabaNia2006]

You are 100 correct! Tribe is a colonial imposition.

[@augustinombugua6814]

There is a saying that goes: you can't put old wine in a new wineskin. Why doesn't the media doesn't want to give the new "owners" of the desired changes a chance and time to express and articulate their demands? Or the media too is turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the Gen-Zs?? Having these old faces as the panelists all the time and expecting new ideas is a waste of our precious time and opportunity.

[@nicklaus8536]

I was shocked when it was Odinga supposed to do "dialogue" on the Gen Z problems. These guys really missed the point !!!

[@oborabu]

Just to correct Noni and introduce a point missed: tribalism is a creation of the british colonizers. Pio Gama Pinto lays this bare. The second person to reaffirm tribalism is Jomo Kenyatta with his 1969 oathing a Gatundu. Then Moi took tribalism to new heights

[@andrewobongo8981]

Why are they only talking about looters and not the excessive aggression of the police that would obviously prompt a reaction from a disenfranchised population? There's a reason protests a protected by constitutions all over the world. It is a last resort because we genuinely feel that our grievances aren't being considered and haven't been for successive regimes.None of us want to go to the streets and shout at the elite but we absolutely have to when we feel we are not being heard.

[@philipndiema2228]

That lady is 💯 percent right but Kimani and others area wrong. They don't want to hear the opinion of this lady because they have their agenda and that agenda is ruto must go.

[@maishjunior4651]

That lady is mixed up and can't be a good leader nor solve a problem!!! She need also to work on her temper, if that's how she can lead when there's tension she'll make it worse... Kimani Ngunjiri is very sharp and understands what people of kenya are after and how to do it!!! Never invite that lady let her deal with her home

[@sydneyodhiambo9933]

This lady should have a youth in a discussion for her to understand. I think she does not even understand her children. Wale wazazi wanaojifanya otero

[@blackhibiscus1876]

Eloquence vs competence.😂 Sorry but her conversation doesn’t grow.

[@josephgary7186]

I think she stretching the issue. Even in the USA a president appoints mostly his allies and mostly from state of origin... in Kenya it is just because we emphasize our tribes

[@karikingori2808]

Nope, That USA analogy is inaccurate.

[@MelanatedQueen254]

Huyu Noni asalimiwe!!! Ala!!

[@shee_wanjikuChege]

Weee this one is wasimu,nishawahi muona jomoko akingoja matatu and going through her facebook profile and how she insults her relatives,sidhani family members wake humuongelesha ...wasimuuuu atengwe kabsaaa

[@samuelmautia1117]

Noni is irrelevant. She doesn’t know what she was talking about. Kimanibis intelligent.

[@emmanueladero8533]

The lady sounds CONFUSED to the core

[@michaelkmwangi1315]

This lady panelist is idealist and out of touch

[@karikingori2808]

Noni Belle Msoo is neither a strategist nor a communicative person. Rather, she is an emotionally drenched individual with large gestures that bespeak a needy, sarcastic person and hyperbolic use of words that mean nothing. I know what my dog means when she barks, but I am not sure I understand what Dear Bell says when she opens her mouth.

[@TheRainDancer]

Umeangusha wamama Noni....I totally disagree with You. Stop comparing this situation to ur household situation...🙄

[@nicklaus8536]

She always seems very angry or impatient with her own children and takes it out on everyone else.

[@silvershsadow2045]

Noni, the issue is not whether some ill-intentioned people may infiltrate the protests. You seem very angry with the kids. The issue is that they managed to change things for the better. Corrupt people even lost jobs for the first time in Kenya.

[@williamwaruru8752]

I think that lady is not informed of kenya we are in.Infact she is not relaxed. Kenya has no debt.Constitution is abused.She don't know.

[@wamukoyaderrick]

When you talk too much you say nothing.😂

[@kileikilindaimanuel1315]

The interviewers display a marked bias, failing to acknowledge that our nation surpasses the interests of any individual. What some perceive as revolution often brings grave repercussions, frequently exacerbating conditions without yielding tangible outcomes. Consider the cases of Sudan, Libya, and Egypt-instances where upheaval led to prolonged instability and suffering. It is baffling why anyone would celebrate the prospect of our country descending into such turmoil.

[@BlackZorro-jd4pg]

Manchurian candidate...wewe ni yeye Ruto.

[@Alex-qo8ld]

This Noni is just useless like useless itself

[@userrrtruest]

Very Useless

[@charlesmuriungi4547]

Ngombe .bili za ikuyuni..one is a man a d a female 😂

[@JayTwenty]

Maperepere mingi, Forensic Audit on Kenya's Debt by Forensic Auditors, we don't want cooked figures... Na hawa wanataka kuongeza mshahara zao na hawafanyi kazi kwa ground, wasalimiwe.

[@bryanotieno7106]

Double standards and hypocrisy

[@wilfredodhiambo6077]

The moment she fixed her mind that those who are demonstrating to air their grievances genuinely are kids ….is the moment she lost the entire plot . And she should stop comparing demonstrators with her kids . Those are grown up people, professionals , Kenyans with elaborate education level and people who’ve been downtroddened . They air their issues to beat of their knowledge. Plz stop the F** up if you have no touch with what is ailing Kenyan .

[@rwenji22]

Is the lady Kenyan? She appears like she’s pandering towards a certain goal only she knows. Gen Zees fight is about fairness, rule of law, accountability, tribalism and corrupt free country.

[@KibbutzSalem]

THE LADY IS SPEAKING OUT OF ANGER OF LOSING BUSINESS, SHE IS TALKING LIKE A PARENT WHO IS OF THE MINDSET THAT GENZS ARE ROWDY....IN A GOVERNMENT THINGS ARE DIFFERENT THE OPPERSSOR DOES NOT VALUE ORDER...ORDER IS THEIR PLAYGROUND, AND CHAOS IS THEIR BREAKFAST.....BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY THE OPPRESSOR MUST BE CHALLENGED, HE WILL NOT HAND OVER FREEDOM BY NEGOTIATION

[@254collins]

Huyu mzee anaongea lugha gani? Kwani he was Sudi's classmate?

[@kenmichigwan234]

Saa huyu shosh anataka aje?