Alioth & The War for Battleworld in Deadpool & Wolverine - How it Sets Up Avengers 5 & Secret Wars

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[@KindaCulty]

Alright so time for a crazy theory vid on a bunch of stuff I didn’t have time to get to in the Deadpool trailer breakdown video. I had a lot of fun going down the rabbithole with this one, so I hope you guys like it. And of course hit me up with your own crazy theories in the comments.

[@marcusyates3044]

Deadpool: "Give me a hand up"

[@marcusyates3044]

This is your chance to be a hero among heroes

[@boblovesqueen6290]

I wish you had gone into MORE detail about Ironman....... Doesn't the MCU realize that Ironman was the most beloved and marketable of all of the superheroes? HE WAS THER LEADER OF ALL THE SUPERHEROES!! THE ONE THEY ALL LOOKED UP TO..I believe Robert Downy jr was pissed off when he heard they were killing off his character and OF COURSE he would come back. If you have any influence with Marvel Studios, convince them to bring him back in a more active role in the AVENGERS upcoming movies and beyond!... A lot of my friends share the same opinion as I... thank you for reading my reply

[@MB-wf3rx]

Alioth exists outside of time. The "last multiversal war" will be the one that we are building to now. MCU exists as a grandfather paradox. The song that never ends.

[@Foxtrot5]

You mean a casual loop.

[@jg7332]

@@Foxtrot5He’s right. Temporal causality loop. The New Multiversal War will cause the tears in reality which creates Alioth. Alioth will be used to defeat the Council of Kangs. New Muitverse will be created. So on and so forth!

[@bizzybrown5701]

Casandra could be mind controlling TVA members we see Deadpool slaughter in the trailer .

[@deanlewis6109]

What if its revealed that the real reason TVA sent both Wolverine and Deadpool to the void, is so they can take out Cassandra Nova and then be trapped there as food or bait for the void. Because they regenerate maybe the idea is that they'll keep it busy for eternity or something.

[@JKOversion1]

Really enjoyed this vid. Some key points on Oliath and looks plausible as to why Wade has been selected to help with the TVA. Some good theories there for sure. It's shaping up to be a really good story.

[@SteveMcT]

Didn't know Deadpool had resistance to physic attack. That's a great theory

[@artofmartialcinemaamc5334]

Psychic. You basically say physical

[@stevejames7930]

I think you’re spot-on about the void being Battleworld!

[@virtualrealityfitness283]

RIP Kang!

[@swifter1151]

At 27:12 Actually the Kang storyline was tied up nicely at the end of Loki S2 because we know the TVA are hunting kang varients out of existence because of the TVA know that Kang and his varients started the multiversal war that destroyed all of existence before, we see Mobius and Hunter B15 talk about the Kang from Ant Man Quantamania and how they dealt with him, then Hunter B15 asks if any of "them" know about us implying the TVA. Meaning they know about the council of kangs and they can be included in with the other ones being hunted out of space time. I highly doubt Marvel will give us any more of an explanation than Kang and his varients were hunted out of every unuverse ever. Domestic abuse allegations arent something you want your comic book character being associated with.

[@paulfwood6177]

Good video. It's funny about the title for Kang dynasty is in some ways its really not that big of a deal but on another hand seeing that title stripped is probably gut wrenching to Johnathan. But regarding the deadpool movie my main concern is finding out if Disney put back the scenes they took out with Hugh Jackman that they claimed was "to hardcore" because Hugh was pissed off enough to not go on the view and other promotional slots to boost the movie up

[@joestayslit7701]

I think it would be funny if the reason Wolverine is in the void because he got pruned by Fox because of how bright and colorful his suit is.

[@alexandermcbryde2348]

At this point Ryan Reynolds has more than proved himself with his portion of the X-Men Characters Universe. I think that MCU should let him Introduce Alpha Flight as the Canadian answer to Avengers

[@waynesworldofsci-tech]

Great idea! Can you tell I’m a Canuck?

[@mysterio7807]

I think Wade's and Logan's healing is more like his atoms are in a time loop.

[@DodiStark]

I doubt it but that's aa dope concept

[@VisionFriend]

Could the Hulk blood bottle have turned Stan Lee into The Maestro and gotten him pruned? Disney secured the digital rights to Stan's likeness in 2022.

[@marcusyates3044]

This is your chance to be a hero among heroes

[@2ndstreetmarvel]

🤘🏿We’re going in 3…2…1…🤘🏿

[@KindaCulty]

First every time

[@chillininthebasement]

Trin is on this shit!!!!

[@jimdorsey995]

I think that the Deadpool we see fighting the TVA is actually a variant.

[@DEEiBe]

My guess is that he turns on the TVA because they try to tamper with Logan’s timeline. Then he goes crazy

[@BlackfyreWarrior]

Another hit, Tay!

[@KindaCulty]

Thanks dude!

[@marcusyates3044]

Deadpool: "Give me a hand up"

[@jakescott504]

Battle world needs to be the name of the ultimate fight game.erbody vs erbody

[@blackshard641]

If Deadpool doesn't make a LOST joke about Alioth, I'm going to be very disappointed.

[@ericpatterson5050]

Always good to see you Tay!!!🎬🙌🏿😊🕺🏽👏🏾👍🏼💚🐲

[@papastar5702]

Great theory. It makes me anxious to see if it pans out. Very plausible I think. At least parts of the theory if not all.

[@joeycox3830]

I appreciate the depth of your videos much appreciated keep it up

[@Mike-s9l2g]

Hulk is in Deadpool 3. Deadpool says help me up you big ape. Then Wolverine walks up. We missed the big ape comment because we saw and heard Wolvy.

[@overdrivex34]

They should just recast kang and finish his story.Dr.doom or some other villain replacing him is a bad idea and is going to feel rushed .

[@MrBlaze8687]

I agree we all want Dr Doom but don’t rush it and I agree they shouldn’t just recast Kang

[@modernmetalheadcoversanded3238]

There's plenty of projects for him to be in and you can bet the fantastic Four movie will be the first one in the post credit scene like Thanos in the first avengers movie. Besides we didn't get thanos's backstory until infinity war. So who's to say that that won't be the same for doom in avengers 5 or secret wars. Kang will still be their either In Shang chi 2 or as a secondary villain in avengers 5

[@patrickhughes4914]

The Kang story finished in Loki.

[@oldbeezy]

To quote the comics: “Doom is no man’s second choice.” Doom should not, should NEVER be your emergency option. The character is too beloved, too integral to be an afterthought.

[@gammafrost]

@@patrickhughes4914no it didn’t. The council of kangs story needs to be properly concluded.

[@jacksonjack7838]

Why doesnt the TVA go after Cable?

[@matthewa441]

The void doesn't exist outside of time. It's the END of time. Guess it all depends on how you look at it.

[@seanpera9499]

He gets pruned because wade breaks the rules, watch Deadpool 2, he ends up in prison (void)

[@KindaCulty]

I assumed that would be the case before the trailer released, but now we can see that his scenes in the Void occur after his visit to the TVA where they try to recruit him, as he's wearing his new suit from the TVA in those Void scenes. So while not impossible, that doesn't seem as likely - at least imo.

[@seanpera9499]

@@KindaCulty exactly, he goes rogue on the X-men to be a hero, so I think he will be self righteously killing TVA agents, landing himself pruned.

[@paulsanford7211]

Thanks!

[@ianwhitehead4172]

Wolverine could be from an x men timeline where logan put on the suit after The Wolverine and then got pruned by the TVA for it

[@jg7332]

I’m 50/50 of The Void becoming BattleWorld. Yes, there are remnants of entire divergent realities within The Void and there are variants of said realities inhabiting it. We haven’t seen the entire Void yet. We will probably see the entire scope of The Void in Deadpool and Wolverine. I want BattleWorld to be sort of like an Ark: Survival Evolved/Game of Thrones-esque world. There should be different biomes from the remnants of different realities with the survivors of each reality ruling under a political house based on their superhero/villain alias. Just like in Jonathan Hickman’s Secret Wars. I think Cassandra Nova’s plan in Deadpool and Wolverine will be to escape The Void and get revenge on the TVA for destroying her reality and using them to take control of the Multiverse. She’ll probably capture Deadpool and Wolverine since the TVA considers them candidates to fight in the new Multiversal War. Also, BRING BACK JONATHAN MAJORS AS KANG THE CONQUEROR! HE DID NOTHING WRONG! HIS EX GIRLFRIEND DID! HE DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE! #BringbackJonathanMajorsasKangtheConqueror #KangDynasty

[@teenforever16.idontwanttob53]

good thinking.

[@chunxofun1333]

One of these days they are going to announce a movie and we are going to get to theaters for it to be a secret movie not announced

[@garywalker5000]

i wish things would start to make sense

[@stevelashley7446]

Can't wait

[@cloudstrife265]

I've said since loki that the void would become battleworld some how doom will be pruned and take goliaths power becoming God emperor doom ruling over the only thing left as the void is ment to be at the end of time aka after all incursions have happened and the films leading upto will show each Dimensions team loose their reality and have a post credit scene of doctor strange and clea recruiting them for battle word

[@miningcollective5209]

I feel like kang deserved better but on the other hand maybe Disney has lost confidence in the kang dynasty idea because ant man 3 bombed and they can’t afford that for an avengers movie so their pivoting to dr doom.

[@mattm8098]

11:30 I don’t think Wolverine has been there for a long time considering his suit a somewhat clean and I doubt he’d wear it for months/years etc

[@MikeWritesit]

I appreciate how you tried to pretend there are other possibilities than Cassandra Nova controlling Alioth as the plot..but there isn't...that's it 1000%. When "He Who Remained" was killed it left a void (no pun intended) where Alioth was now up for grabs for anyone powerful enough to control him. Cassandra Nova is that powerful, she is stuck in the void and now is either attempting to control Alioth or has already succeeded in doing so. The TVA can't have this for obvious reasons, so they start bringing super heroes to the void to try to stop her... None of the heroes have succeeded this far, leading the TVA to realize they need a hero/heros with "different" types of powers than they have been thinking of. The TVA is desperate and needs Deadpool to take out C. Nova....they tell him to recruit Wolverine and wade goes looking for the perfect wolverine for the job which is why we see hints at Wolverine variants in the trailer. He recruits a reluctant Wolverine and sets out to stop C.Nova. During the ensuing battles many heroes throughout the multiverse attempt to help but are killed, yadda, yadda, D&W win and in the wake of Alioth and C.Nova's mayhem there is one only one universe left (Hello 616) for everyone to live in, which is in the end how we are going to get to a single timeline of core characters moving forward. That's it...1000% that's what's is going to happen...it doesn't take much logic and foresight to figure out the main architecture of the plot.. Now while there may be lots of smaller details and moving parts to the story in the end that's the overall schematic moving forward. Please come back to this comment after the movie comes out to discuss....

[@LiarLiair]

Hey Tay, its Aaron, just wanted to say what's up, keep doing a good job and I left two $25 Super thanks on the last two vids and they never posted, might wanna check with KZbin because I got the receipts for it. I'll post those questions on the next vid and hopefully they will go through!

[@KindaCulty]

Oh dude I'm sorry. I just went back through the last 5 vids trying to see where I missed them & not seeing anything. The YT system for super thanks kind of sucks because there's not a filter to find them on the back end. I appreciate it nonetheless & if you respond to this comment with any questions or anything you want me to bring up I'll respond in the video I'm working on now. Thanks again Aaron, not sure why I'm not seeing those.

[@LiarLiair]

@@KindaCulty thanks man! Got it sorted out with YT. Here was the question: What are your thoughts on the rest of the Phase 5/6 stuff? I know Marvel has reshot and rewritten stuff but the 2025 films look like a mixed bag. I think Cap 4 and Fantastic Four can be reconfigured and be good, but I’m really not that excited about the Thunderbolts or Blade unless they have other cool characters pop up, a la Daredevil, The Punisher, Mutants, etc. What do you think about the 2025 slate and do you think they can get back to the old MCU magic with these projects? Or will that mojo wait until Secret Wars? I personally think they will gear up to release Spider-Man 4, Shang Chi 2, and Doctor Strange 3 in 2026, and push back Avengers 5/Secret Wars a year each for them to have time to set it up. Your thoughts? PS drop that Kinda Culty mixtape on Spotify, because the intro music is fire and I would totally listen to those beats!

[@KindaCulty]

Nice, I'll get to this in the next one@@LiarLiair

[@manuelbowman4242]

Hi there I love marvel superhero in like your channel in think you for the upload

[@damiensefton9210]

Maybe Cassandra Nova is being set up to be the next big bad Villain and may have killed the council of Kangs or they fled to fight another day, but we just won't see it, only be told about it, because I'd imagine Disney and the MCU are real pissed at Jonathan Majors about his domestic abuse case, to the point they will use a Powerful female comic villain to kill or disregard Jonathan Major's character 'Kang'. Maybe Cassandra has some ties to the universe of the Illuminate where Proffessor X was killed by the Scarlet Witch. Maybe Wanda is the only that could stop Cassandra Nova so for some reason down the line, sends Doom to find the Wanda from MOM. Also I wonder if Magneto will make an appearance. Ive heard alot of talk about Wanda and her brother Pedro and the TVA being somewhat aware of Deadpool's 4th wall breaking.

[@damiensefton9210]

So maybe Deadpool or Wolverine aren't able to kill Cassandra Nova because she escapes somehow, or they escape but having killed Alioth to set up Battleworld.

[@craigmonahanspidermantmntt8028]

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[@MR-qz4ny]

I think the TVA sent wolverine to take out Cassandra without telling him they wanted him to do that so they can control Aliogth to probably wipe out the fox universe completely cause it's an anomaly that's why Deadpool turns on the TVA

[@chunxofun1333]

He is forced to clean up his time jumping

[@patrickdeschamps1777]

nice theories there thanks! if they want to remove kangs from mcu, could the tva want to capture oliath and free it at council of kangs to get rid of them easy from the story or would it be too lazy for the story? just an idea i had, stupid or not, be the judge!! the kangs are probably out of space and time too like the void so it would just be moving it from a safe space for the multiverse to another. cant wait to have your take on it. have a nice day y'all!

[@dantheman3546]

We're never going to get a continuation of your DC universe video are we? 😅

[@Mike-s9l2g]

How many X-men has Wolverine killed because of mind control? There is alot of them

[@srstriker6420]

Well I do wonder if Cassandra Nova is the villain how does she fit into all this?

[@gammafrost]

We’ll only know as time passes.

[@TerrellAustin19941]

Cool

[@mercurrius]

I’m sorry I think it be really funny if that comment was just a red herring.

[@chunxofun1333]

Ryan reynolds could be trolling us all after the leaks because he can. And should

[@bostonsamus9466]

Man, haven't watched a vid of yours in a MINUTE cause they're all spoilers now. When you're back to pure theory work, all ears. #cutsceneandrun

[@TomCarnivore]

Lets gooooooo

[@photobackflip]

STAN LEE SMASH!!!! (there will be a Stan Lee Hulk...shhh)

[@Never_Again3]

What if alioth is actually galactus?

[@Mr_Death031]

Marvel and Disney already debunked the whole avengers 5 title change rumor a few weeks ago when they announced their slate It’s still listed as Kang Dynasty So I’m not buying anything these sources are coming up with If it’s not from marvel themselves then don’t automatically believe it

[@chillininthebasement]

Even People Magazine is running this report. It's real. The Kang Dynasty is no longer the title.

[@pinaka5461]

Then what's the point of so many different superheros capture alioth and used him as a weapon just like HWR 😴

[@jacksonjack7838]

Dead Pool Marvel Jesus Easter Trailer probably

[@MUISSJGDAVON8090]

Good video because The MCU Is Awesome ❤!

[@JKOversion1]

I was cracking up haha. I agree Tay, Sony should defo quit or else they will damage Marvel and Spiderman. Until then it's Morbin Time! Haha

[@cammankingdom]

Wait where's venom

[@chillininthebasement]

Venom is currently back in the Sonyverse.

[@SYNLIFESTYLE]

Yo this sounds spot on

[@danielshottopics8187]

Didn't Alioth die? He Seemed to of Been Destroyed by Sylvie and Loki.

[@chillininthebasement]

Alioth was just enchanted by those 2.

[@miguelchambers7755]

*Promo sm* 🌸

[@gatorcris]

Thanks!