New Kingpin & Daredevil Saga Leading to Sinister Six in Spider-Man 4 & Massive Street Level Event?

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[@YaBoyMirage]

We are definitely getting a Daredevil / Spider-Man team-up soon. I kind of wished they added The Punisher to The Thunderbolts roster tbh too🤷‍♂️

[@Fourmath]

The MCU needs to introduce the character first

[@ThePatchedVest]

@@FourmathJon Bernthal’s Punisher is already confirmed for Born Again S1.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

The thunderbolts movie still in flux just like everything Marvel had previously planned so they will probably change the roster to accommodate street level antiheroes like The Punisher

[@TerranceRobertson1985]

End credit scene would be cool

[@damiensefton9210]

@Fourmath see what your saying but technically he has already been introduced.

[@stevejames7930]

Would be funny to see Daredevil wipe the floor with Mysterio as he's blind and completely oblivious to his illusions 🤣

[@marcusyates3044]

I hope Armor Wars gives Don Cheadle redemption after the hated Secret Invasion...

[@execuwutie_YT]

anthony?

[@marcusyates3044]

@@execuwutie_YT Anthony Mackie; the actor for Rhodey, the War Machine?

[@CtrlOptDel]

⁠​⁠@@marcusyates3044That’s Don Cheadle. Anthony Mackie is Sam Wilson, Falcon / new Captain America.

[@whocaresanywaybecauseidont]

I like how you develop theories instead of just reiterate leaks online.

[@dannypalin9583]

This is why I love this guy. People like The Cosmic Wonder and Warstu aren't worth your time. KindaCulty talks about what could potentially happen and hypes me up so much.

[@Bulletno]

Kinda Culty is the best. Quality over quantity.

[@onephatkatt]

Like the new intro!

[@KindaCulty]

Thanks katt

[@ThePatchedVest]

I think Spidey 4 will be less “Sinister Six” (since they already did a loose Sinister Five with the multiverse villains of NWH) and more-so an MCU version of “The Enforcers” that will act in the same capacity as Fisk’s Thunderbolts in the comics. I imagine the line up will prominently feature Michael Mando’s Scorpion and Donald Glover’s Prowler (who was supposed to return in Far From Home and No Way Home but was scrapped both times) and perhaps Bokeem Woodbine’s Shocker as well. I could see Fisk basically hiring them in exchange for them getting a “pardon” for their past crimes. Leading to a smaller scale “Civil War” where Spidey and DD attempt to recruit help from Jessica, Frank, Luke, and possibly Echo. I don’t think Kate will be a part of it because of her role in Young Avengers. I think Spidey is going in a darker direction. Certainly, Sony’s own SMU films being much darker in tone shows they aren’t opposed to the concept. I don’t think the story will fully resolve in Spidey 4 though, partially because Kingpin is Matt’s arch-nemesis narratively but also because Born Again has already been confirmed for a S2, I think it’s likely it ends with like an Infinity War style cliffhanger, where Spidey actually loses to Fisk somehow, this sets him up to obtain the symbiote in Secret Wars and have a darker turn for the second film of the new trilogy. This next part is HUGE speculation on my part, but I think a large part of this second trilogy will be the involvement of JK Simmons as J Jonah Jameson in Peter’s personal non-Spidey life. As we saw in NWH, Daily Bugle got a huge boost in funding between the post credits scene of FFH and e end of NWH, to the point that he has event hired Betty Brandt as an intern (I think this is the way we could still keep the loose connection to Zendaya’s MJ and Ned). I think it would be very interesting to introduce Jameson as a sympathetic father-like figure to Peter contrasting with his more outrageous anti-Spidey persona and contrast that with him being a huge supporter and financial donor of Fisk and practically the propaganda arm of Fisk’s campaign. This would also allow JJ to be responsible for the creation of Scorpion like he is in the comics.

[@Hoopstar161]

5:23 lmao

[@jacksonjack7838]

Spider-Man Forever should be Kingpin with J Jonah Jameson funding the creation of Scorpion to be the new Hero. Peter meets Harry and they hit it off and he meets Norman Osbourne who plays a Mentor role similar to Tony Stark in Homecoming, only for Peter to find out eventually hes an Anti Tony Stark basically. He would also begin working with Doc Ock(Who I imagine to be a bit younger of a version, a young genius protege type a few years older than Peter/Maybe played by Daniel Radcliffe) and in this movie they would just be friends who have a fall out. All of this setting up The Sinister Six in Spider Man 5. Peter would also meet Cindey Moon who would already be Silk but just not being a hero, until Peter tells her about Uncle Bens Influence on him being Spider Man which inspires her, and we also get the MCU version of Uncle Ben. Peter would also spy on Ned and MJ who are now growing closer to each other which sort of breaks Petes heart But also sets up Hob Goblin Ned in part 6 or so after MJ finally remembers Peter for some reason in Spider Man 5, and then leaves Ned to try and be with Peter again. Driving Nee insane, who is then corrupted by Dormammu because we would find out he had still been magical and practicing his magic on his own without remembering how he got it in No Way Home. Ive thought it all out dude. Kinda went over a whole trilogy of ideas there tho. Sorry for the Clusterfug.

[@jamesweible5357]

I keep recalling the daredevil netflix show, and the one thing that really hit hard for him was him never getting a break, yet getting back on his feet and fighting anyway. If they did something similar, they could have the government forces being sent in at first, and failing, and then a secret group sent by fisk in after DD is beaten down by the gov goons. I could totally see that being a strategy by fisk. Knowing how DD has the ability to take out a group coming after him one at a time, he could plan for the government to fail on purpose so his secret group could get DD and everyone would think DD is just recovering from the first fight. It would be weeks or months before anyone suspected anything, and even then, it could be brushed off as he decided to hang up his horns since the government is after him. So I guess I'm saying, why not both? lol In fact, that could be a way for them to bring in other street level heroes, like spiderman. Spiderman could have heard about what happened to DD, and he goes and finds him. OR even better, he hires Jessica Jones to find him. Just thinking about those two meeting would be gold.

[@RoyaltyEntertainment510]

Awesome video, Tay! Who does your intros?? I’m gonna need an awesome one like this for my anime I’m working on. Thanks for the great content again

[@noahfitness3974]

Maybe also MS Marvel s2 & MK S2 will release in 2026 as well, in 2027- World War Hulk, Thor 5, Avengers 5 & Black Panther 3. 2028- Captain Marvel 3, Avengers 6: Secret wars part 1, X-Men reboot & Blade 2. 2029- SM5, Avengers 7: SW Part 2 Battleworld, Fantastic Four 2 & Thunderbolts 2.

[@GlynTaylor]

Should have made a show called The Rise of Kingpin. 2 seasons, 10 episodes each, leading up to him becoming a huge threat for Spiderman movies

[@13tapioca]

You're a genius

[@drewdrew2172]

I would love if we got a Marvel Knights type team up in Spider-Man 4 with Daredevil, Echo, Hawkeye, Punisher & maybe the other Defenders if they return.

[@TerrellAustin19941]

Street Level Awesome

[@christophermarzett4347]

I like what you puting down. Can't wait to see if it comes to de!

[@JKOversion1]

Thanks for another great video Tay! I think they should do spiderman mutation in the next film with him being hunted and Daredevil protecting him. Maybe even if he isnt full man spider, but to see him with his 6 arms. Similar to the animated series.

[@anthonysmurthwaite6258]

KindaCulty has the best intros on KZbin

[@user-wn3pv3vn6v]

Love you man and happy new year 🎊🎊🎊

[@LiarLiair]

Hey Tay! It's Aaron! Thanks for being awesome as usual and I hope you had a Happy New Year! Shorter question this time, for the street level topic: When do you think The Punisher will appear in a project outside of Daredevil or Spider-Man 4? Do you think he will be in the Multiversal stuff or Secret Wars? What's his future like in the MCU outside of the street level stuff? You’re the best channel on KZbin and we'll get you 100k subscribers!!

[@KindaCulty]

Thanks Aaron!

[@dustinbridges6831]

I’m actually excited about Marvel again. Not so much about Captain America for but I do want to see the daredevil show and the thunderbolts and how they generally build up to the avengers movies.

[@bizzybrown5701]

I like how Charlie Cox and the guy who plays Kingpin are basically being rewarded for their work on Netflix . There is clearly a lot of regard for their characters and the actors as they have a big commitment to them over at Disney/Marvel.

[@josephhumphrey4111]

Defenders vs Thunderbolts

[@trippytimesjosh355]

Kingpin got an "iron man" suit in the comic version of Armor Wars

[@eddieterrell5457]

Dope ass intro bro!

[@marcaddow7326]

Gotta tell brotha, the intro was fire, that Falcon and the Winter Soldier tune and the daredevil imagery 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Man like Tay haha!

[@LJ21K]

FACTS!! That intro slapped 🤣🤣🤣

[@matthewtempleton8328]

Another Grrreat video as per usual! My questions are as follows, 1. Why do none of the characters ever use the bathroom…? I mean we’ve all watched them eat and have the opportunity to expend the energy, butt never the rest of the cycle. 2. Any chance Silver Surfer gets the X-Men 89 treatment, it just finished on a pretty open ended opportunity for continuation? I know Marvels Finacial difficulties an the time contributed to said ending, but they’ve had a pretty decent couple of years since. And it would be a great opportunity to lead up to the introduction of Galactus and The Fantastic Four among others. It was a greatly underrated show. Yous da man Tay! Keep up the great work!

[@damiensefton9210]

The entire defenders and other netflix marvel movies now officially added to MCU timeline.

[@2ndstreetmarvel]

🤘🏿We’re going in 3…2…1…💪🏿💪🏿

[@Christopherfrost13]

Killer new intro BOOOOOOY!!!!!!

[@bizzybrown5701]

Fisk is going to try to hire Punisher to go after Spider Man like in the cartoon. Hope the Spider Slayers appear.

[@paulsanford7211]

Thanks!

[@ailermustbe00]

rhino,shocker, scorpion. new goblin. introduce a new osborn upcoming techs. new doc oc. hammer head mutant. all tech based except hammer head.

[@docalvee]

Yeaaa

[@jackgrimm1227]

I'm looking forward to Echo.

[@michaelccopelandsr7120]

They BETTER have Kingpin fight Mr. Fix-it. Speaking of Joe... WE NEED A "MR. FIX-IT" MOVIE! The Grey Hulk, at night, in a suit! It fits perfectly into the blip years. When attempting to fix his arm, Banner unknowingly creates the Grey Hulk. He thinks he heals and cures himself. Except, at night, he turns into JOE FIX-IT. Joe leaves Banner cryptic messages on the mirror. Have him fight The Leader, (to close the loop) while having to deal with Joe. To win, he must meld Banner, Green Hulk and Grey Hulk into the Hulk he is now. It writes itself! GIVE US "MR. FIX-IT!" Pass it on, please and thank you!

[@noahfitness3974]

Daredevil Born Again probably next year

[@deanlewis6109]

I really hope they just take the leap and put all of the Defenders cast in Spider-Man 4, plus Punisher. Young Avengers would also make sense by that point too. If I could have the Secret Warriors from Agents of Shield in there too that would be amazing.

[@deanlewis6109]

Oh and She Hulk and Moon Knight should also be involved.

[@NorJoshua]

How would u feel about this, in tfatws sam is challenged mentally about if he deserves the shield, let’s see in brave new world he’s challenged physically with the hulks, what I would do with cap 5 put it in between avengers 5 and 6. At the end of kang dynasty have all the hero’s spread across battle world and cap 5, Sam would be alone in a section of battle world ruled by hydra and have the main villain be a hydra Steve played by Chris evens and it challenges sam physiology cause he knows how good his Steve was and how evil this one is and call it something like “captain America: secret empire” idk just my idea, love the vids bro keep it up

[@noahfitness3974]

I think Iron Heart will release in 2026 the same with SM4, Armor Wars, maybe Hawkeye S2, Eternals 2 & Shang Chi 2

[@kingnasirthesecond]

hope they bring in cloak and dagger at some point in the mcu

[@gammafrost]

If and when they do, they’re going to be recasted or much older versions.

[@marcusyates3044]

Kingpin or Thunderbolt? Who would be the more dangerous president?

[@gammafrost]

That’s a really good question but I feel it’s Thunderbolt because he has more access to the super solider secrets.

[@IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019]

I'll be seated

[@ailermustbe00]

they could do a 2 part movie first part is spiderman 4 that would lead to a defenders movie with spiderman.

[@nicktra265]

Do u think we would get a punisher season 3?

[@DBlock_11x]

Damnnnnnnn you’re good! Whew what a narrative breakdown, love it! Thank you KindaCulty 💪🏼🦸🏼‍♂️☄️

[@shawnrichards1280]

If u would havedropped this video earlier we may have been able to watch it on the den of nerds live stream today

[@ErnolDawnbringer]

you wrote it well. sad that mcu won't do that and we won't see that in mcu

[@noahfitness3974]

I hope we roll Civil War 2 one day & maybe Marvel can redo Secret Invasion after the soft reboot & maybe more comic accurate & a lot better & bigger scale

[@13tapioca]

Wassup tay!

[@movieguy6505]

I wish the MCU was focusing on the street level stuff instead of the multi-verse.

[@ElJorindo3534N-xp4ss]

HMM fantastic.

[@matthewa441]

I dont want them to try to force sinister six in one movie. Thats too manu characters to try to introduce in one movie. It worked in No Way Home because we already knew all those characters. They should wait at least until Kraven comes out and make Spiderman 4 with kraven, introduce Miles. 5 can be all about Peter and Miles, then 6 could be endgame level and bring in sinister 6 and Toby and Andrew.

[@gammafrost]

I was hoping to see Kraven in Tom Holland’s spiderman movies. I wonder if it’ll be a different version or Aaron Taylor Johnson’s.

[@matthewa441]

Hey i listen to youtube from my phone while i drive. I dont touch my phone thought. I start the video and sit it aside and let autoplay do its thing.

[@KindaCulty]

Ha, well as long as I'm not responsible for any repercussions

[@andreoliveira191]

What about the Shadowlands run?

[@gammafrost]

They kinda did a little of that in the defenders miniseries.

[@TomCarnivore]

Lets goooo

[@RaulMartinez-bh4sk]

I don't think that the sinister six will be in this film but they could bring in the thunderbolts in spider-man 4 and they should save the sinister six for spider-man 5 or 6. I mean I don't know but if the sinister six appear then it would be cool ether way.

[@gammafrost]

That sounds way too crowded for a spiderman movie. If the thunderbolts do appear again, it should be in the world war hulk film.

[@matthewa441]

I'm sure the Avengers movies will be good. It just depends on the build up though. If the quality of their movies don't improve, then nobody will care about the new Avengers. Unless they bring back RDJ and Chris Evans. They should do that anyway.

[@gatorcris]

Boop!

[@eaglesphan5650]

Where the hell is Sharon Carter?

[@noahfitness3974]

Hawkeye needs more seasons

[@FireJach]

I cant believe mcu reads my mind. 😮

[@matthewa441]

It really pissed me off that Kingpins first appearance in the MCU proper was a crappy photo of him. I liked Hawkeye but they made a lot of bad decisions in it.

[@The_Infamous_Boogyman]

We need Norman Osbourne

[@gammafrost]

We really do but debating whether that’s gonna happen anytime soon considering they’re turning Thunderbolt Ross into that character for the dark reign storyline in the mcu.

[@ByTheWayneVideos]

I'm calling it a bluff. This is going to be a Defenders movie, they're just hyping it as spider-man's. It makes no sense in relation to how they've been handling the character and where the character is.

[@DragonFist9323]

No way in hell ain't gonna see spider-man 4 even if Daredevil plays a big role. Nope. Maybe on piracy.

[@DragonFist9323]

Devil's Reign is a DD centric story which I love but now spider-man is stealing that and making him the focus. More reason I fkn hate the character

[@NolaNerd]

The people running these shows, echo and Brad W for example, totally do not give me hopes for good shows and stories. They are ALL HIRED BEING TOLD DO NOT READ THE COMICS.

[@lordsams]

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[@DragonFist9323]

I fkn dislike Spider-man. I only care for Iron Fist, Daredevil and Punisher. Those are my faves.

[@virtualrealityfitness283]

I’m glad Kangs gone so he doesn’t have to fight these weak Avengers team!

[@lordsams]

this sinister six going to be garbage

[@NolaNerd]

These people hired to run and write these shows have NO... NOT ONE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE about the comics. They are all extremely low T and wouldn't be anywhere around my MCU. There is an MSheU. The MCU is gone.

[@KeithKaZ]

echo show lame. netflix series far superior

[@lordsams]

kingpin and daredevil 😂😂😂😂😂 booooooo cometman steven beckley from earth 616 need to replace dare devil dare devil is trash.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

Typhoid Mary was already introduced in the now canonized Marvel TV shows formerly run on Netflix so if they can get the same actress back that would be a hoot.

[@gammafrost]

I really liked her take as the character. I wanted to see what the third personality was. They could have used her in the daredevil show too. It’s no guarantee we’ll get the same actress if her character is brought back.

[@RoyCyberPunk]

@@gammafrost When it comes to former Marvel Television Division characters so far unless the actors are so busy that they can't be bothered they keep them and only recast them if the latter happens which was the case with the actress that played Vanessa in the show formerly run on Netflix as she was working on at least 5 different shows I kid you not when I checked her roster I wondered how she even got any sleep 🤷🏾‍♂️ but the point is that that's why her character was recast or of course if there any criminal charges unless she has Amber 💩 privileges which largely depend on leftist leaning political affiliations and embracing absolute imbecilities like Math being racist and so on. And while Hollyweird is full of mindless drones that is by a miracle that they can act if at all not all of them are either but I digress. Again outside of her being too busy to reprise the role or being blacklisted for not being a mindless Leftoid or a criminal charge she will probably do reprise the role. What happened to the characters of Foggy Nelson and Karen Page of being killed offscreen by the now thankfully former showrunners of the canceled iteration of Daredevil Born Again was shameful I'm glad they course corrected. But then again everyone suspected as much when it was being run by the creatives behind the movie Deck The Halls which was their only credit.