King David: How to Be a Conservative Rebel

In this video I talk about the symbolism of a conservative rebel. The stories of David and King Saul in Scripture can tell us a lot about how we can act today to resist a tyrannical system in the proper manner and without revolution.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Start
00:00:52 - Intro music
00:01:19 - King Saul: the tyrannical king
00:02:27 - The secret king in an upside down world
00:03:44 - David the court jester
00:05:29 - Excess naming
00:08:43 - What to do: Jonathan's sign to David
00:11:17 - The dragon pinned down
00:13:00 - Associating with the foreigner
00:15:20 - The conservative rebel VS the revolutionary
00:20:43 - Accept being the fringe
00:23:36 - Outro
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[@grailknightchesterton232]

CAF Warrent Officer James Topp is marching across Canada and has written some very powerful words as to why. "We are adrift on an ocean of information on a raft. We have elected a leadership that has taken upon it self to hold the only cup available and call it a holy vessel. They dip that cup in the ocean and call it the only approved source of water. Anyone who has the temerity to suggest that there is water all around us is castigated and shunned. It is stunning to behold." Symbolism happens.

[@chrisc7265]

Come gather 'round people Wherever you roam And admit that the waters Around you have grown

[@thecryingshame]

It IS possible to do this while avoiding the worst of the negative consequences. The secret: you're not alone. I'm not alone. We can do this together in communion.

[@renaud_gagne]

This was excellent. It also reminded me of Saint Valentine marrying couples even though the emperor mandated for young men to not marry.

[@rossevanricamara4169]

We need a Saint Valentine for the incels.

[@homerpimpson9855]

@@rossevanricamara4169 Saint Valentine himself was a bishopcel

[@rossevanricamara4169]

@@homerpimpson9855 I don't know about that, Saint Valentine wasn't born around the time when the Pope made it a requirement for priests to be celibate. Unless he was a monk, I think Saint Valentine did some loving himself.

[@TheRealRealOK]

@@homerpimpson9855 Incels aren’t the same as monastics.

[@homerpimpson9855]

@@TheRealRealOK the denotation isn't the same, but in modern pop culture the connotation is essentially the same

[@matthewneufer1758]

Righteous Rebel! Wise as serpents but harmless as doves

[@thomasjorge4734]

Not Harmless, but Innocent.

[@enchantingamerica2100]

@@thomasjorge4734 how

[@thomasjorge4734]

Wise as a Serpent, but Innocent like a Dove. Meek, not Weak. Own a Sword, know how to use it, but keep it Sheathed. A Knight is a Warrior who does not bully, but protects and defends those who are being bullied.

[@enchantingamerica2100]

@@thomasjorge4734 my dyslexic ass read innocent as incorrect lol. i am in total agreement. great description of a christian knight.

[@thomasjorge4734]

@@enchantingamerica2100 You're welcome. Thank you.

[@thegoodpath5008]

Thank you for this timely message Jonathan. ❤️ My thoughts and prayers are with all Canadians standing for freedom and your Charter of Rights & Freedoms. I have been a longtime fan of yours- Fr Andrew and Fr Stephen were past priests at St George Orthodox Church where I attended for years. Now is the time for solidarity among reasonable, peaceful people, not the least of which are Orthodox Christians. To remain silent in the face of tyranny is to be disobedient to God. Love, Respect and Prayers from West Virginia 🇨🇦❤️🇺🇸

[@JesusIsKingAndSavior]

Amen!

[@Cavirex]

Love your videos Jonathan. You're an inspiration in my spiritual journey. Much love from an Italian Catholic and God bless you.

[@sjuvanet]

God bless you sir and may your spiritual journey come to an end in God's grace.

[@Cavirex]

@@sjuvanet God bless you too, brother in Christ.

[@SKyrim190]

Today at the Mass, in Catholic Liturgy, we have read the part of the story of David where he gets the chance to kill Saul, but doesn't. I was reflecting exactly about how this is akin to our situation, as an illegitimate power raises and raises, and tries to take everything, and it is our duty to resist, but in a manner similar to what David did! This was a very elucidative lecture. I will surely rewatch it later

[@mauricerose3082]

"When David saw that his servants were whispering to one another, he perceived that the child was dead. So he asked his servants, “Is the child dead?” “He is dead,” they replied. Then David got up from the ground, washed and anointed himself, changed his clothes, and went into the house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he went to his own house, and at his request they set food before him, and he ate. “What is this you have done?” his servants asked. “While the child was alive, you fasted and wept, but when he died, you got up and ate.” David answered, “While the child was alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows? The LORD may be gracious to me and let him live.’ But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.” 2 Samuel 12:19-23

[@haillobster7154]

It's enough to make a grown man cry.

[@the2ndcoming135]

Yeah, man. I’m just here to defend my grandpa. So much slander and misinformation about him I have to virtually be combative to put the nonsense to rest.

[@carissavisscher9648]

Thank you Jonathan. I found you a few months ago when you talked with Peterson, Bishop Barron and another fellow who’s name escaped me. I have been following your since and am so grateful for your incredible insight and teachings. We are in what appears to be very dire times and words of wisdom are needed. I take rest from your videos and continue to pray that all eyes are on Jesus. Thank you.

[@cawile]

This is where we take a stand and accept the consequences. Thank you 🙏

[@marcusshera1232]

I've had trouble understanding the idea of civil disobedience but this helps.

[@vaderetro264]

I'd suggest reading The Language of Creation by Matthieu Pageau to get a deeper and clearer understanding of what Jonathan's talking about. Great book.

[@JAMESKOURTIDES]

To be a conservative is consonant with being a radical. The latter meaning literally to get the 'root' of things.

[@FazeParticles]

a reformation to the roots is required.

[@Dwelleronthethreshold89]

Especially so being that we exist currently in Satans world.

[@robertpatter5509]

Many years ago there was a tv series called Kings. It's a modern retelling of David , Goliath and Saul. Ian McShane plays an excellent Saul. Pretty good tv series for only two seasons. Well worth watching. Macauley Culkin is in it too.

[@Dwelleronthethreshold89]

Tv.... Rebellion doesn’t leave much space for television.

[@Dr.JudeAEMasonMD]

If you opt out of man’s system, and opt into G.O.D’s system you can transcend the system, thus being a conservative rebel. 🙏🏽

[@friedabokorny7140]

Thank you. I watched the video where the veterans prayed the lord's prayer in front of a war memorial. It was astonishing.

[@caspersorensen5685]

Having attended an actual Bible reading religious community for 14 years, I have never before heard such a poignant and brilliant talk on David. Everything just hit home. Thank you.

[@arnsteinkilane7256]

Courageous and clarifying. Thank you, Jonathan! Prayers for you and all canadian heroes.

[@PhilosophicalGospelPodcast]

This really is one of the most beautifully profound symbolic takes that I have ever heard. Thank you for posting this Mr. Pageau. May god bless you.

[@sunnymeadow1856]

Amazing video! I pray that you and the people of Quebec will be able to attend church once again like you always have 🙏❤☦

[@zachlong5427]

On being a rebel and accepting the consequences of your resistance, I recommend the channel "Like Stories of Old" and his video essay on C. Nolan's Batman trilogy. He talks about similar subject matter on how to be a conservative rebel trying to save the system.

[@kellymadden2873]

Brilliant. Saul was a giant of sorts: "From his shoulders upward he was taller than any of the people." (1 Samuel 9:2) Saul's biggest concern is always the favor/control of the people, which is why he supplanted Samuel's role in making the sacrifice. Too much flesh.

[@ImperfectCitizen]

Awesome analysis, this reminds me of my reaction towards Trudeau's initial response to the Freedom Convoy; Since when has a "minority" been disregarded, Especially peaceful and loving 'minority' groups such as the people who support this movement 🤔

[@mauricerose3082]

"Afterward, David’s conscience was stricken because he had cut off the corner of Saul’s robe. So he said to his men, “The LORD forbid that I should do such a thing to my master, the LORD’s anointed. May I never lift my hand against him, since he is the LORD’s Anointed.” With these words David restrained his men, and he did not let them rise up against Saul. Then Saul left the cave and went on his way. After that, David got up, went out of the cave, and called out to Saul, “My Lord the King!” When Saul looked behind him, David bowed facedown in reverence and said to Saul, “Why do you listen to the words of men who say, ‘Look, David intends to harm you’? Behold, this day you have seen with your own eyes that the LORD delivered you into my hand in the cave. I was told to kill you, but I spared you and said, ‘I will not lift my hand against my lord, since he is the LORD’s Anointed.’ See, my father, look at the corner of your robe in my hand. For I cut it off, but I did not kill you. See and know that there is no evil or rebellion in my hands. I have not sinned against you, even though you are hunting me down to take my life."

[@kennyg1358]

Is Justin the LORD's Anointed?

[@allananderson5840]

So, the fringe is proof he could have easily killed the king but did not? And, what? This mercy toward a wrathful king, shows moral superiority?

[@mauricerose3082]

@@allananderson5840 ...David had no Right to touch him...he was the LORD's Anointed...even though...David...after slaying Goliath...instead of presenting his sword to his King...took the sword for himself...the King realized David was a rival...

[@ThatOneAlbinoMofo]

@@allananderson5840 not moral, spiritual, and that's a huge difference Not all that is spiritual, is moral for anybody to do or believe

[@Herdingcats1917]

Thank you sooo much for the clarity! I hope you feel completely recovered soon. This was very inspired.

[@Rockell479]

Jonathan, As always very enlightening and insightful! Thank You!

[@kevinhughes3477]

I have to say, this is such a perfect take, I am always so edified by your videos

[@russellhoward3866]

Thank you Jonathan. That was what I needed to hear. God bless you, brother.

[@danandjennysmulders2001]

One of the best talks you have given. Thank you for your work.

[@epel4416]

A voice of clarity and reason amidst chaos and confusion - thank you Jonathan!!

[@nateaggie]

Best Pageau video ever. Thank you my friend.

[@burtnoyes6014]

Great video! Really eye-opening and courageous!

[@jessicabutler195]

Thank you Mr. Pageau. Prayers for you and your family and our beloved Orthodox Church.

[@Swatta637]

This was incredible. I'm blown away at this symbolic perspective. You and JP are incredible!

[@marklondon2576]

My favorite so far!

[@UKnowURRetarded]

Thanks for your courage jonathan !🙏

[@johnosullivan1480]

Extremely helpful insights for navigating increasingly troubling times.

[@fndrr42]

🙏🏻 Jonathan your videos have been such a blessing to so many. May the Lord use your example through times like these.

[@martinivanov16]

Very helpful, thanks, Jonathan! God bless you!

[@chesternevil7066]

Beautifully said, Jonathan.

[@gwenechotaylor96]

Massive chaos and breakdown is I think what they are wanting to do. Fantastic talk as always.

[@seraphim___j]

Heartening & Encouraging

[@tensevo]

This was so brilliant. If only we understood the excess of naming. Refuse to be fully named, refuse to be totalized. Resist, in a playful manner.

[@justinhankins7253]

I am so glad I found this man. I have been loving all these videos helping me understand my own religion. thanks!

[@mikefaber3567]

Wow just wow so powerful. I often wander why I've been so resistant to this stuff. I'm sure a large part is my upbringing down to my grandparents. But I think some people have an intuitive knack to see through the veil of life, see a pattern maybe not even realizing it but it's like a pebble in your shoe and eventually you reach down and pull it out. And your like I knew something was off.

[@aadamy]

Thank you Jonathan! Your blog and podcast has helped me stay grounded. The books of Samuel are my favorite. King David as a precursor to Christ is so amazing to me.

[@Dr.JudeAEMasonMD]

The KZbin genie wins again. Excellent content and new subscriber. 👍🏽Right on time for this conservative rebel. 😉

[@fakename3208]

God bless this channel. I hope KZbin doesn’t one day declare it “problematic”

[@orfious]

So good to hear this. Thank you

[@lincolngreen1344]

Awesomely insightful. In a deeper more metaphysical and politically thorough exploration of this same framing, Camus in his book The Rebel delineates this dilemma almost exhaustively. Interestingly St. Augustine is very much a formative part of his struggle to understand the phenomenon of life and the proper way of responding to it outside of the institution that no longer seemed willing or able to provide the way forward.

[@jennifercampanaro7544]

Just love your words !

[@spikylittlemind8058]

Brilliant, thank you.

[@davidgravy2007]

Thanks for this. Love you bro.

[@hermes11th]

I am grateful for this.

[@ryanbuck1405]

Absolutely amazing! This WAS helpful. Thank you Jonathan. You are a rebel for Jesus. Thank you for sharing your gifts.

[@lizbec1085]

Grateful for you, Jonathan! 🙏🏽🇨🇦❤️🇺🇸

[@RhemaMinistriesMumbai]

So so well put!

[@protestanttoorthodox3625]

Praying for you Jonathan. Keep fighting the good fight.

[@aaronneil780]

Hope to see you guys at fringe fest this weekend! 🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@archanglemercuri]

We thank you. A grateful allowance of a borrowing of time and space. We were….going to ask of you “well what’s the situation” • but you seem to elude to: - a modern hijacking of autonomy - a thieving of time, and a compounding of extremely heavy stressors upon the world • the parallels of St. Michael & K. Saul; truly knowledgeable sharing and fascinating. Anti-sin’ 🎯 on that one Mr. Goldenpage 🙏🏽

[@sarahsanzig5434]

Thank you, Jonathan

[@ariellecalderon8518]

All I can say is EXCELLENT!

[@trevorharrison1989]

Well said Jonathan.

[@FiggsNeughton]

One of your best vids, thank you sir!

[@SigmundPimpulopis]

Excellent, Thank you!

[@systemrevolt7309]

Thank you so much for this. This was fantastic.

[@filiper.5479]

Thank you Jonathan we need people like you

[@Okayand33]

Thanks for the upload! Yeah the story of David is extremely vivid. It's especially confusing if you dont have the symbolic eye for it. My favourite part was when tribes east of the Jordan agreed to cross over and help David. At this time Israel was somewhat fragmented, so to bring all the tribes together is a great feat in and of itself. The imagery used to describe the Eastern warriors alongside the mountains as if they're cherubim is the closest ill ever get to having a drug-induced hallucination Abraham Lincoln also played the role of a conservative rebel. Despite being a "Radical" alongside other abolitionists, he wasn't shy when it came to dealing with those in favor of slavery and making small concessions. He understood how illogical it was of championing yourself as "home of the free" while enslaving a large portion of the population. It was in remembering these fundamental flaws that he took action to correct them while staying true to his beliefs through trying times. It was his 'vision' along with this faith-based morality that gave him the conviction to go against the crowd and do something for the greater good.

[@devila3muertos140]

Very good lesson 🖖🏽

[@sandyj1561]

Much love Sir

[@SaraH-te9vb]

Excellent! Thank you! We cannot name Everything! There must be space for the un-named.

[@johncerdena]

Thanks Jonathan!

[@georgioiopelan169]

So grateful for all who are here, and Jonathan, lantern blazing truth who inevitably, inevitably, shepherds His eternal justice to us here.

[@arminyousefi5282]

Thank you for this! He's my Patron Saint ☦️

[@truantj]

Very strong! May God gave mercy on us all.

[@allywallace7798]

This version of the intro song is amazing

[@alexslynch]

Love the "Stairway to Heaven" take on the intro theme music 😍

[@anonymouslyanonymous4774]

Excellent presentation. For those who have unfortunately experienced narcissistic abuse first hand…king Saul’s actions here certainly are parallel and suspicious for narcissistic personality disorder in the way David is “targeted”…in the way he attempts to usurp the priesthood…in the way he envies…in the way he does NOT take appropriate responsibility for his own shame but acts to wipe David out of existence. Despite all of this (not forgetting his marriage to Michal and his love for Jonathan), David still loved Saul

[@darthbanana7]

cringe

[@universalflamethrower6342]

In pretty sure Pageau said 'fringe'

[@davexpriest]

Mind blown. 🤯

[@rhysoliver227]

Excellent video. I will certainly be rewatching it soon to fully expunge the richness of the content.

[@nadasolaris5212]

Thank You

[@conantheseptuagenarian3824]

good one.

[@youngestdaone]

thank you

[@OneMansOdyssey]

3:11 - like Strider, very cool

[@shaneorrison956]

The King in hiding. Good find! And Sauron is like the "too much light," too much order, Jonathan referenced. Sauron was associated with order and giving things their place even before his "fall."

[@TheHeavensAndEarth]

My friend and I were just talking about this yesterday. Following David's example for how to deal with the current evil authority. Would be curious to hear your thoughts on my talk concerning translating anthropos as man and not human.

[@noleenole8254]

Truth.

[@vngelicath1580]

I see the shift partially in terms of the Lucas Star Wars movies. In the prequel movies, the system is "as it should be": the Republic is the reigning power (ordered liberty), the Jedi are esteemed and authoritative; the Sith are shifty, working behind the system to undermine and destabilize the Republic/Jedi by exploiting their respective weaknesses. In the originals, the tables have turned: the Sith have gained power (chaotic tyranny), and it is the Jedi -- guardians of order and light -- that have to take on the role of shifty, manipulators in the shadows (allying with the literal "Rebels") to subvert the subvertors and restore harmony.

[@Zarrov]

We need the entire Bible explained like this. Story by story, book by book, page by page. It is not a request. Its duty.

[@ibelieve3111]

Thanks

[@TheKangoutou]

Cool hairstyle Johnathan !

[@aprboone1]

❤Talk more about the prophet Nathan..

[@Janine11155]

Interesting understanding of transgression in an upside-down time. Don't forget that Jesus preached David's eating of the showbread as an example of a blameless Sabbath violation. It reminds us that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath. Is it lawful to heal? etc. I love also that you bring up feigned madness, the madness of the fools for Christ who appear in times of great static social life and rigid control -- and let us not forget Christ's family also said He was beside Himself

[@brandorev]

Encompassing and naming everything; leaving nothing to the margin will create chaos. Yes, Jonathan.That is the point. They need chaos, and chaos they can control. It gives them more power. It gives their love meaning and purpose.

[@Brad-RB]

You have to accept the consequences either way. History also judges the people that did nothing when their culture became corrupted. Do something but be attentive to how you do it.

[@wyleong4326]

Thank you. My journey here on Earth is richer.

[@Kirbyisgayy100]

Pageau may have the best content on KZbin

[@Mr0rris0]

Holy crap 😮

[@phonepunk7888]

When you tied piercing with the PCR tests to St. Michael.... woah.

[@thomasjorge4734]

One man and God is a Majority.

[@clintd3476]

Well put.

[@bubbag8895]

How interesting