"King Robert's Peace" (Game of Thrones Lore)

The peaceful era headed by Robert Baratheon and Lord Jon Arryn
following King Aerys Targaryen II reign over the 7 kingdoms
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[@shadow_ninja9149]

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[@curtbullock3886]

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[@clarkstartrek]

King Baratheon only measured his reign by how many Whores, he could bed! Other than that, he had no care in the World!

[@joannaellis7890]

Why is Robert literally a CEO who peaked in high school, hates his job, cheats on his wife, and dreams of riding his motorcycle to vegas to become a pro wrestler

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

Ok- that made me laugh out loud!

[@jaypeezulieta2146]

that's so accurate lmao

[@relebohilepepenene9474]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣true

[@Darkstar1484]

And somehow became CEO through pro-wrestling

[@shadhinov]

This is accurate. Esp the end.

[@chadhoy7489]

"Robert was neither mad nor cruel." "He simply had no interest in being king." Varys

[@fantastic.5357]

He literally r*ped Cersei on their wedding night (and on later occasions) and constantly beat her during "sex" (in quotes bc it was SA, she NEVER wanted it) and he constantly humilliated her both in private and in front of others. But yeah, sure! He wasn't cruel at all!

[@El_RibsJR]

"Robert was a drunk but he wasn't cruel"- Tywin Lannister

[@dekuuchiha9990]

In the show I believe Ceresi says something similar

[@samiam1059]

Robert was a drunken fool but he didn't enjoy cruelty -cersei to Tyrion

[@El_RibsJR]

@@samiam1059 "Everytime you open your lips your father's words come out"-Robert to Cersei

[@zuzka9045]

Said about a man who smilled seeing dead bodies of Rhaegar's little children

[@lawdogattorneyatlaw4886]

@@zuzka9045 he nodded in a ambiguous way, the smile was a rumor that Barristan thinks about later

[@eff_gee321]

I find Robert's story to be one of the saddest. He is king of the realm, married to a beautiful queen who craves his love, yet all mean nothing to him, he is stuck in a memory of a dead woman, a warrior in a peaceful land. Goes to show how happiness is just impossible to find for some ppl no matter what they have.

[@JimJamJ4]

Perfectly said and perfectly laments his character type and it's such a fascinating and wonderful character for us to read.

[@ZackFlairr]

That dead woman not only didn’t love him but literally started a war

[@brothaantone8286]

@@ZackFlairr Exactly!! Lyanna Stark was a such hypocrite.

[@chadhoy7489]

Robert was a warrior...not a king. He should have ceded the throne to Stannis and become a General in the Royal Army. He knew how to lead men..not rule kingdoms

[@eff_gee321]

@@ZackFlairr I guess george can't bring himself to describe any romance without it being a love triangle in some way

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Robert should have listened to Stannis and scoured that court clean, removed Balon's head and distanced himself from the Lannisters. Much and more would be different had Robert listened to his brother Stannis.

[@totalnewb123]

When someone dislike someone so much, they’d rather do the opposite of what that person ask for good or wrong. A good example is if you were poisoned and your ex who slept with your best friend created a cure, you’d rather succumb to the poison than take their cure. Spitefulness is a powerful thing.

[@jacksonrodio472]

@@totalnewb123 I'm taking that cure right away idk about you but I get what your saying people can be petty just not at the cost of their life

[@cars81434]

@@totalnewb123 From a personal experience of having estrange sibling relationship, one tends to not always listen to your sister/brother unless it was absolute necessary. The fact Robert went a long journey to have Eddard, someone he consider an brother that his actual ones, was very telling that he little love with Stannis and Renly.

[@nanimator0]

Stannis had even suspected of Cersei's infidelity... except he knew Robert would never believe him so he told Jon Arryn instead and uh, we know how that ended.

[@mappingshaman5280]

Well the risk if you behead balon, is that 10 year old theon inherits the iron islands. If 10 year old theon inherits then really the iron Isles are going to be ran by either victarion or euron, neither of which are improvements over balon, and euron is drastically worse than balon.

[@lukebarroso449]

Robert wasn't a good king, but he wasn't the worst to sit the throne. I.e. Maegor the Cruel, Aegon the Unworthy, and Aerys the Mad King. Robert's one of my favorite characters regardless of his rule. Viserys or some else probably poisoned him if it wasn't starvation, seems possible.

[@Thereisanalienpresenceonearth]

Don’t forget Joffre

[@lukebarroso449]

@@Thereisanalienpresenceonearth fully agreed, but I'm talking about kings before Robert. Joffrey still sucks tho, you're right 🤣

[@Menno_3]

He wasn't good, but he wasn't actively bad Also he at least had the wisdom to find capable people to rule in his stead

[@daygocity]

Maegor did nothing wrong

[@Benyaova]

@@Thereisanalienpresenceonearth joffe the false stag or the mad Saint king

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

In lore its stated robert(in regards to ellia & her children's deaths) was "ashamed of the bodies & even more ashamed of his RELIEF"

[@captainziggy82]

so fucked up but he knew it was necessary, there would have been way more wars than the Greyjoy rebellion.

[@cars81434]

It’s sad that at his youth, he felt awful of Elia and her children death. Even more sadder that he change throughout his years as king when he was hell-bent on killing Dany and her unborn child. Can you imagine your whole morals change as being king? I mean I know it was much safer given it would’ve prevented an reborn Genghis Khan and Dany to thrive in canon but such a thing was terrible.

[@redadmiralofvalyria867]

@@cars81434 especially when your not MUCH of a "king" to begin with

[@bwpitlik1290]

@@cars81434 Catelyn said it best. Ned Stark new the man that Robert was, not the King that he is.

[@sd5371]

Because he knows what happens if you allow kids to grow up... He didn't send assassins to kill the last two Targaryen kids and now ones got an army of murdering raping barbarians at her disposal. It's like sparing the evil wizard only for them to come back same with sparing the child of a deadly rival. Unless you can manipulate that kid they will grow up looking for vengeance. Cutting the flower of a dandelion will not kill the roots.

[@NationalDevin]

While discussing the topic of Charles the first, I once heard a historian say, "Do not judge kings by the situation they were born into, as they were often times not able to influence the outcomes at all, but judge them by how they handled their circumstance before their fall, and you'll find powerful insight as to their character." and it has totally influenced how I view my expectations of other.s

[@JoshuaHenelyThornhill]

Love this it’s a truly safe thing to do and apply to your own life

[@warlordofbritannia]

Jeez, dude must not have liked Charles I then lol

[@okdude8215]

Ye which is why alexander the great was great if you looked at what he did it wasnt his fault he died 32 and his empire split up since his heir wasnt born yet but while he was alive he was great at everything he endeavored.

[@bwpitlik1290]

It’s what makes Robert arguably worse than any other king in Westeros history. When he took over it was undoubtedly one of the best situations imaginable. Tons of money, a long summer, no major wars, powerful alliances and no serious threats on the horizon, and yet he still sent the realm into absolute chaos via his sloth. Maegor at least built the Red Keep and de-armed the faith. Viserys 1 got screwed over by his own court betraying his wishes to crown Rhaenyra. Aerys 1 was terrible but really only went to war bc of Rhaegar and Lyanna fleeing with no explanation which subsequently brought Ned’s brother and dad to King’s Landing.

[@SWProductions100]

@@bwpitlik1290 If memory serves correctly, the realm was also in debt by the time of Robert's death (though that might have partially been Littlefinger's shenanigans).

[@Blaklyon0]

"thank the gods for Bessie! And, her tits!" -Robby B It's funny how Robert can remember Bessie's chest but, he can't remember lyana's face...

[@marseldagistani1989]

There's a reason why Robert was called the breaker of Chests

[@ArrakisHeir88]

He does remember her face, though.

[@CatotheE]

@@ArrakisHeir88 Him not remembering her face was a show change.

[@ArrakisHeir88]

@@CatotheE But he puts his hand on her statue, lol. Is the show saying the stonemason didn't know how she looked?

[@CatotheE]

@@ArrakisHeir88 He said he couldn't remember.

[@tonysled6796]

Robert was not corrupt. Every poor choice he ever made was due to heightened emotion from a point of suffering. But Tywin ruined Robert's rule by killing Elia and her children the way he did with Robert's late permission or at least permissive cosign......but when it comes to abusing his power Robert had no vision of dominating others. he had no need for it. makes him different than most of the other kings before him.

[@tonysled6796]

and whether magical or not the throne never bit him like it did the others.....he sat comfortably on that throne of broken blades

[@kettenschlosd]

i mean he abused his power by spending the crowns money on feasts and by charming women with his authority/whoring with the crowns gold. Its overall better than trying to actively control the other large houses, take from the poor, wage wars of conquest etc. It just manifested in a lot of debt to littlefinger, lanisters and iron bank. So he was plenty corrupt by modern standards, but he didnt scheme or make enemies, which kept the peace. Arguably the feasts even helped in that aswell.

[@tonysled6796]

@@kettenschlosd i also believe the feasts and the spending was done so in the beginning because they had a massive victory to celebrate. and then it got out of control because his subordinates framed the spending as necessary. Robert is not given enough credit for remaining ready to go to combat against the Iron Islands and any threat that presented itself. a real king who stood watch for safety and security. corruption is one thing. his predecessors participated in ethnic cleansing and genocide

[@ackidack]

@@kettenschlosd it was Littlefingers intention to make the Baratheon family and the iron throne heavily indebted to both the lannisters and the iron bank as it gave him the ability to maneuver around and become skilled in moneylending and borrowing without risk to his own pocket. He asked Lysa to make him master of coin and before that he asked Lysa to make him a buerocrat in gull town

[@collinharris4848]

Well he was corrupt by our standards but was a saint compared to a lot of the other kings

[@crackedhammer4612]

Me during s1: “he’s not worthy and sucks as a king.” Me around s7: “omg just bring Robert back.”

[@thegrimmcommoner2203]

GRRM said that the hero of ASOIAF died before the story began, which makes me think that the hero was Jon Arryn. He raised Robert and Ned, didn't betray them to the Mad King, helped Robert capture the throne, and even ruled for Robert. His only fault was marrying Lysa Tully and taking her advice to hire Littlefinger as Master of Coin. If he didn't marry her then he could've exposed Cersei's inbred bastards, cause a great shame to the Lannisters where Tyrion is the only one to carry on Tywin's line with honour (also causing to lose the Lannisters prestige and respect), the kingdom wouldn't be in debt, Jeoffrey wouldn't be king, and there wouldn't have been a civil war where most of the Starks were killed and the Boltons wouldn't have caused a power struggle for alliances in the North after the Red Wedding. Without Jon Arryn to keep check over the kingdom, the white walkers would've had a more united kingdom ready for them.

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

I have to disagree because the white walkers are inherently a magical/supernatural threat beat them only those of the prophecy that foretells their defeat which means a blood line of Aerys and Rhaella and the Union of ice and fire. The hero is Rhaegar as he forged lightbringer by fathering Jon

[@thegrimmcommoner2203]

@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 He may have been Jon Snow's father and forged Lightbringer, but that's it. He was the cause of his family's downfall and his kingdom split in half. Jon Arryn was pivotal in both defeating the Mad King and keeping the kingdom at peace. Jon Snow would still be the hero of ASOIAF, but Jon Arryn is the hero whom died before Snow's story began.

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

@@thegrimmcommoner2203 What is more important that the fact that humanity survives or that you depose them in the same king. The survival of humanity will always be the greatest good thus thus Rhaegar is the hero who died before the story began

[@eagonzo6573]

It’s almost certainly about rhaegar although you have some intersting takes.

[@coldhands2802]

Jon Arryn is shady AF order of the green hand made me realize this. How did he let the crown get so deep in debt? He was doing shady shit. Watch the video.

[@Corristo89]

He wasn't a bad king, he was just utterly disinterested in being one. Imagine having lived on the edge for so many years, fighting, becoming a god of war, winning glory, and then having to sit on an uncomfortable chair all day, passing laws, listening to people you don't understand nor like, etc.

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

Nah he had one of the best situations and he was able to fuck up so badly that he basically gave away most of the authority the king used to have and made the future king’s extremely vulnerable to manipulation and assassinations

[@colbyadamski8139]

Yeah so that makes you a bad king… a good king would like to do a good job, and likely, care about being a good king??😂

[@colbyadamski8139]

“He was a great doctor, he just didn’t give a shit and he killed dozens of patients. But that doesn’t make him a bad doctor!”😂😂

[@theautisticcreative2619]

Robert wasn't a good king. He knew this, that's why he put the best people in charge to make decisions for him and for Westeros. Didn't he say this himself? He was better suited for whoring and feasting (I believe because he couldn't satisfy his desire to use his hammer which was left unsaid) which was used against him by *Cercei to hide her incest children. Robert didn't just go out hunting to purposely miss each one of her children's birth (including one they shared that died) he hunted to give her and each child an animal hide, it's an old custom for the father to do. It's a promise that he will provide for his family. I think the boar (last) hunt was for fun as he wanted to kill something, Today fathers usually are at the births (like Jaimie was at them all I believe challenging all present to remove him if they dared) rather than hunting for a hide, instead, sometimes, coming with a teddy or special blanket. Robert had to be king due to lineage, forever rebelling against a crown he won in a rebellion.

[@bakedgoods7116]

I like that last part, "Forever rebelling against a crown he won", it's poetic.

[@patrickdematosribeiro1845]

I would argue that the fact he knew his weaknesses and put competent people in charge make him a good king, although he should have paid closer attention to the loyalty of the council members. If I was his subject I would care whether there is peace or not and not whether the decisions that brought peace were made by the king or the hand he chose.

[@derekli1741]

He really wanted Ned stark to take the crown instead of him but it was his rebellion and therefore he became king. Imagine if ned or John became king with Robert as just an ally. They would be unstoppable and the lannisters will never get so much power

[@ArrakisHeir88]

Robert was a good king. His citizens were shit. Robert was a good king, and a bad person to be in a family with.

[@ArrakisHeir88]

@@derekli1741 Isn't it weird how often we think Jon would be a good thing because he doesn't want the power, but we never reflect on how Robert is basically the same, only physically stronger?

[@Force_Of_Habit]

A warrior king in time of peace... Yeah, it's a shame it didn't work out.

[@matchesmalone5000]

Robert was a great warrior and a decent man by ASOIAF standards but ultimately a bad king who was to blind to see the lion approaching from the west. His best quality in terms of being king was making friends fast, maybe he could have exolored this talent if he cared about ruling. P.S Your chanel is great and your videos are a real treat to my day keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@ArrakisHeir88]

"you're a bad king if your citizens want to kill you" oh so the lannisters are good guys

[@sermorningstar]

Whilst people say Robert wasn’t actively a bad King, I have to disagree. When he took the throne the treasury was full. He not only depleted it, but put the realm into crippling debt. Yes Baelish was pulling strings there, however Robert chose to be delusional and not wonder where all the money was coming from and how he was paying it back. Yes he put Jon Arryn in command, but Jon Arryn was clearly bent to Robert’s will from time to time if he didn’t stop the debt increase. Isn’t it strange how the man who raised him would bend to the King, but Ned would challenge him?

[@miat9039]

He is also allowed the lannister to gain more power.Kind of a blind thing to do.

[@elplebeuchiha1996]

Jon Arryn to me is an interesting character because we know nothing about his POV only what others thought of him. We also never get See him in present time. For all we know, they could’ve been giving him false praise or only focusing on the good and not the bad. The bad being that he was gullible. How do you not question Lysa and Littlefingers relationship? [+]

[@lampwick4427]

Completely agree. Often when people say that Robert wasn't a bad king, they're remembering Mark Addy's fabulous performance, and all of his excellent quotes, not what the quotes were actually about- his terrible kingship.

[@mrscaryfox3955]

Compare to any Targaryen, he was a great king, he was never raised for kingship but lordship so that’s how he acted

[@DLR1997]

​@@mrscaryfox3955 I would rather compere him to the worst kings of Westeros and not to the good or meh ones

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

Robert was plagued by grief and vice which led to him not being a very good king. However, he knew this, and so he at least tried to be a good husband. That didn't work either, still haunted by Lyanna's ghost. He wasn't good at that so he tried to be a good friend. He may have succeeded in that, but it led to his death, and the deaths of the 2 people closest to him. Robert is human, just like the rest of us. Making mistakes in place of perceived good decisions. He didn't want the throne, he wanted revenge. He got both, and regretted it all. All hail the broken reign of Robert Baratheon, 1st of his name. King of the Andals, the Roynar and the first men. Ruler of the 7 Kingdoms, and protector of the realm.

[@ackidack]

He did not try to be a good husband come on. He hated Cersei he physically abused her when he knew it was a dishonorable thing to do

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

@@ackidack there were moments in the beginning when he *tried* to be. It's not like once he saw her for the first time he instantly hated her and *chose* to go down that road intentionally. Many different things led to their hateful relationship.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Robert set himself up to fail by letting too many Targaryen Toadies continue to live and work in his court, namely the Spider and Pycelle. Putting his Brothers in positions they were ill suited for and having just terrible relationships with both so there was no united Baratheon front to counter the Lannister influence. And just not carrying at all what was going on while the 7 kingdoms were slowly ripping itself apart again due to his benign neglect.

[@MrKILLINOOBZ]

Stannis wasn't ill suited to be master of ships but I would have made him the hand of the King after Jon Arryn or Master Of Laws (Renly didn't care about the laws clearly)

[@mappingshaman5280]

Pycelle wasn't a targaryen, he wS a lannister stooge. Also stannis did a good job as master of ships, hence why he had a stronger fleet than the lannisters. Though really he should have been master of laws instead of renly.

[@hannibal-elmrs.6275]

Very interesting POV! I agree- he needed to have gotten rid of ANYONE having to do with the Targaryens AND the Lannisters! (At court) Had he looked to family, they would have been more eyes and ears at court, and they would be PRESENT during the succession… waiting at dragon storm hasn’t worked out for several previous successors! It’s about who is PRESENT!

[@chrissmith3587]

@@MrKILLINOOBZ hand of king could of allowed Stannis to push his own claim to the throne over roberts legal heir

[@zacharyrihner4825]

Robert really was a giga chad

[@MeetThaNewDealer]

Long Live Bobby B

[@ythandlename]

His fake peace was just a long awaited powder keg set up by the Lannisters to take power. Tywin wanted to install a new regime under Lannister control if he could insert many Lannisters into the royal fold which is exactly what he and Cersei did. The only thing that wasn't expected was the early and outright coup de'tat when Cersei committed incest and happened to kill Robert earlier than she intended.

[@elplebeuchiha1996]

I think it was earlier because Jon Arryn found out about his Bastard kids who were the had more birthright to the throne than Cersei’s incest children. They killed him to make sure he didn’t tell Robert, but then Robert immediately gets someone else he trusts to be The Hand. Then Ned starts doing the exact same thing Jon Arryn was doing. [+]

[@Dorsidwarf]

@@elplebeuchiha1996 How did you miss that the Lannisters didn't kill Jon Arryn? Lysa Arryn did, because he wanted to foster his son away from her.

[@alexanderzack3720]

i would say robert was far from the worst king, but not really a good king either. yes he put people on the job that were capable, but in the end he overruled them whenever it suited him which is how the crown ended up with such a high debt. the commonfolk didn´t really experience robert´s shortcomings the only thing they noticed was the long summer, relative peace and a lot of spectacles like tourneys and jousting

[@ackidack]

That's not true. The reason the kingdom is so heavily in debt is because Littlefinger influenced Robert into borrowing so heavily and Littlefinger facilitated these actions by his own hand. Roberts problem wasn't an inability to listen to a great master of coin his problem WAS his master of coin

[@seekingabsolution1907]

They would have noticed eventually either way, powerful peoples finances cause problems are the only thing that in reality reliably trickle down to the common folk.

[@angelgray8899]

Best king in the series. He was not a perfect king but still better than Joffery, Tommen, Cersei and Daenerys 👀

[@DLR1997]

​@@angelgray8899 in show maybe, but overall; he is not

[@tau566]

"In the Summer Isles, they worship a fertility goddess with sixteen teats."

[@alexanderzack3720]

we should sail there immedeately

[@valtersplume3726]

Sounds like something to do with Slaanesh...

[@birinderwarraich1179]

In summer isles prostitution is considered holy.

[@arlo444]

i absolutely love these videos. been watching them all year but i haven’t left a comment yet so i thought i’d show some appreciation!!

[@alexturlais8558]

Robert wasn't a good king but he at least knew how to delegate to those who did. That's still pretty good.

[@lucasjleandro]

Better than most of world leaders we have

[@joealves5180]

Hearing this guy talk about game of thrones is one of my favorite things to listen to on the drive home from work

[@natedlc854]

Only two things can hold the 7 kingdoms together: Dragons, and a Baratheon. Stannis is the rightful King

[@seekingabsolution1907]

It doesn't matter if he is rightful it matters if he'd be competent and more than that it matters if he can win and he didn't.

[@lukitasmol10]

Stannis cant hold even his lack of politics. Being only a good commander is not enough. Trusting Melisandre misreadings of the future in the books help even less. Following Melisandre's fanatic faith and let her burning people and attack the faith of the very people he needs support and wants to rule, was the most stupid move anyone could make.

[@lukitasmol10]

@@seekingabsolution1907 hes competent? He is a good commander, thats all

[@luisc6062]

so glad these types of videos are back!

[@shakalalalalkh1098]

this video is ridiculously enjoyable, entertaining and informative. 5 stars

[@seantheowl]

i dig ur stuff! been reading all the books and you are a nice ride along, been watching most of ur videos. thank you for your time.

[@hendrix7948]

Another great video. You are keeping GoT alive for me. Always look forward to your videos!

[@msmisek13]

Your videos are amazing, been listining to alot of them whileI drive. Keep up the good work.

[@noriyakigumble3011]

Honestly I’d argue robert was one of the best kings by virtue of his acknowledgment that he wasn’t a good king. Sometimes being a leader isn’t about doing everything yourself, Sometimes a great leader is defined by their ability to recognize talent and utilize it accordingly. (Byzantine Emperor, Justinian I was famous for not doing everything himself, He had talented generals, Administrators, tax collectors, law makers, And his wife who ruled while he was sick with plague) Robert wasn’t good with administration so he got Jon Arryn, He wasn’t good with coin so he had littlefinger, he used Aerys’ badass kingsguard for defense and later got Ned stark as a really talented king’s hand Robert still defended the realm, respected its lords and upheld its customs. But he also knew when to step down. I’d say that’s a better trait than absolute decadence like Aegon IV or the ambitious but troubled rule of Aegon V, Or the narcissism that was Aerys II ALSO Robert was a great king by default simply due to his rock solid political alliance in Westeros. The targaryens couldn’t forge alliances within the kingdom due to their practice of incest or marrying into Valyrian houses, and when they did marry for alliance after the death of their dragons, it was mostly with Dorne. Robert on the other hand was a foster son to Jon Arryn, Foster brother to Ned Stark, son in law to Tywin Lannister, AND Brother to Renly! That’s the North, the Vale, the Westerlands, Storms end, and The crown lands firmly in his thrall ( and this isnt even mentioning the riverlands and their alliance with the north and the vale) If high garden, Dorne, or the iron islands wanted to rebel, they’d have to face this massive coalition, and only balon was dumb enough to try him TL;DR: Bobby. B was a great King! Storms End 4 life Also, Great Video as always

[@shakalalalalkh1098]

i really liked that analogy with Justinian

[@jakealter5504]

That and Robert realized very easily on that the Dothraki would be a major threat if they ever crossed the seas into westeros

[@noriyakigumble3011]

@@jakealter5504 yeah, everyone frowns upon Roberts hatred against Danaerys and Viserys. But like…. He was kinda right. Was he cruel and irrational in that regard? Maybe. But Viserys was totally going to Raid Westeros with Dothraki if it weren’t for his insane antics. And if we are talking about the crappy end to the tv show, Danaerys pretty much did EXACTLY what Robert predicted.

[@jakealter5504]

@@noriyakigumble3011 true but the Daenerys could be chalked up to the major personal losses that she endured just before the battle of kings landing. She most likely would’ve stopped when the soldiers of kings landing surrendered IF Cersei didn’t have missandi executed in front of her. You could argue that Cersei was the one that doomed kings landing by provoking Daenerys one time too many

[@noriyakigumble3011]

@@jakealter5504 yeah true, Although regardless of whether or not Cersei would… pull a Cersei , Danaerys still invaded Westeros with a MASSIVE khalasar

[@johnmontag]

Love your video's! Don't we all wish their was a pov book of the conquest w Robert, Ned, etc. Robert also owed the church a couple million dragon's if i recall too

[@andreoliver1977]

U have the best GOT Content I know the shows over but being a book reader I love the detail keep it up bro!!!

[@hostilerow9451]

Dude you have the best thumbnails on youtube or atleast the best from all the youtubers I watch

[@ayurvedicman]

Thanks for the awesome GOT videos! Been watching for about a year now. If you get a chance, would love to hear something about the theories related to the Maesters at the Citadel and their influence on Westeros (e.g. the end of dragons, influencing the great and small houses and the realm in general).

[@sitinurjannasiti8670]

House of the dragon is on the way and im learning the targaryen family tree, i found something interesting. Almost every Targaryen named Aemon is a good person (except aemon in HOTD) but god is not in their side so they can't be king like: •Prince Aemon son of king jaehaerys •Aemon the dragonknight •Maester Aemon of the night's watch I've heard that jon snow is actually named Aemon not Aegon, i wonder if there is a parellel for it Can you make a video of all targaryen named aemon? because i baleve the family three i'm looking on is not comprehensif

[@warlordofbritannia]

Isn’t that one bad Aemon actually Aemond, or am I misremembering?

[@98voteforpedro]

@@warlordofbritannia he is

[@dv9239]

@@warlordofbritannia Nah we're talking Alicent's son Aemon the second and his brother was Aemond the rider of vhagar Rheneyra's son is Aemon the third the sucessor of Aemon the second

[@Zirillla]

@@dv9239 Alicent's sons was Aegon, Aemond and Deareon

[@captainziggy82]

i JUST made a tweet saying Robert lowkey threw the realm into chaos twice, once for the rebellion, and once due to the heir problems. looking forward to this

[@Miuranger1]

Except he didn't. Rhaegar kidnapping a teenager did and mad King burning heirs of starks and arryn did. He was forced to fight btw for his life..wasnt his fault his wife was cheating on him with jaime

[@LalaLa-ze7kv]

​@@Miuranger1he kinda did anyways. He set a precedent when iron chair can be taken by force by anyone who has army strong enough. That mess of a realm they have now is a result of that. 5 kings all want to get it

[@iianmitchelldub]

One of my favorite time periods in the series. I have a face and name for so many characters. Their intent. Even tho a lot is happening with schemes n plots it just feels right. Love this era

[@AbhishekKr.Singh1609]

Love your videos man Could you make a video talking about aemon targaryen,the dragonknight the namesake for maestor aemon at the wall

[@deviousalemanni4235]

Wait didn't cersei love Robert at first and than after the first child was stillborn and he was still cold and unsupportive grew to hate him. This is how i remember it from the books. She didn't cheat on him on their wedding night.

[@DLR1997]

That was a show only thing; book Cersei didn't like him much at first, but at least tried to make it work; however it all went down to the drain when he shouted Lyanna's name when they had their first night together

[@invincibleluis]

Robert was a warrior at heart, not a ruler.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

You know I’ve been listening to TGoT and Robert is actually really smart. Everything he feared was correct. About Targaryens, about Lannisters, about Joeffrey, about the small council… It’s just all so tedious. Stannis says it, Bran thinks it, Daenerys feels it.. So why are we cutting them slack and being understandable, but Robert isn’t extended the same understanding? Dont get me wrong he isn’t perfect, I can’t get over his treatment of women, but he is not dumb for politics as I see too many people say

[@cazyjohn2005]

i wouldn't say he right about Targaryens

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

They were planning to overthrow him and to use Dothraki ally-ship for it? @@cazyjohn2005

[@jackbelmont4389]

Gods he was stronk back then

[@dripperdaflyest9632]

This was good

[@shanenolan8252]

I have a theory the the iron throne paid dorne off blood money for peace. When jon arryn visited in that first year. They could afford it . Then ( say a million in gold )

[@marlonthomas8042]

No evidence but it’s a good theory

[@taureansynner6993]

Good theory, and it has has happened such as when we in the British Isles paid the Danegeld. The same thing happened later with the Barbary Pirates from Africa until the British bombarded their settlements and then the French invaded a few years later.

[@shanenolan8252]

@@taureansynner6993 thanks

[@coldhands2802]

Something like that def happened.

[@shanenolan8252]

@@marlonthomas8042 well the crown treasury was full and went into 6 million plus in debt. And this was the first year . And we know an alliance was put in place with the sea lord of bravos via the iron bank . And we know the tryion gave them a rich reward for doing nothing on the war of the five kings , jon arryn must have given them something something expensive. Although people talk about Roberts tournaments, id say building a navy from scratch ( and replacing losses after the grey joy rebellion) and paying for the food supply of all the armies of the seven kingdoms for a year would account for a serious amount of the crown spending.

[@jimmymcgill7370]

Varys and Littlefinger were just waiting to have their grand continent-wide chess match the whole time lmao

[@sixthorder]

Robert Baratheon = the King Westeros needed. Plenty of people try to be king and fail. Robert succeeded at it. He won.

[@ibrahimmustafa2481]

He failed bruh

[@CatotheE]

@@ibrahimmustafa2481 He shouldn't have married Cersei.

[@seekingabsolution1907]

He failed, he succeeded in becoming king but never succeeded at being king.

[@CatotheE]

@@seekingabsolution1907 He kept the peace for the better part of two decades. The smallfolk thrived under his rule, the Iron Bank was being payed on time and there was only one war that he ended quickly.

[@DagothDaddy]

I hope Stannis becomes king or someone who isn't Danny I feel like George would accidentally be undermining one of the core themes of AOIAF by making Danny queen. Because after all the talk about how traditional monarchy leads to abuse and just because you come from some blood line doesn't mean you are fit to rule to then go "Oh yeah Targaryan's were the true good guy rightful rulers all along." Would kind of undermine that message.

[@Big_AlMC]

No. U stupid.

[@danielfaraoanu9515]

For some reason, the part where Robert talked about his bastard daughter (7:41) almost made me cry

[@Buford_T_Justice1]

Of all the kings I bet Robert threw the best parties!

[@yonirais4699]

Since we finally got an official release date for house of the dragon maybe you could do a video exclusively about that th dance of the dragons and that part in asoiaf history?

[@daddy_1453]

Hot dang. You made me appreciate how many powder kegs were created during Roberts peace.

[@someperson8641]

Nice

[@OverLordthe1st]

When you think about it. The 7 kingdoms could not have been worse prepared for the white walker treat than when Asiof is starting. A change in a 300 year dynasty, a war torn country with no real leadership and much of its strength gone from civil wars. The worst part 10 year summer followed by an equally long winter.

[@MrRrusiii]

what do you mean King Robert would have brought down his hammer and btfo the Others

[@OverLordthe1st]

@@MrRrusiii if he was alive by let's say book 5. Ya he would have smashed them back to the lands of always winter. He loved nothing more than destroying a foe.

[@dcanngieter]

Jon Arryn seemed like a Smart guy.... he should've made this Ned's Rebellion and had Ned win the iron throne with Benjen taking over the north

[@nicmagtaan1132]

Or baby Robb or baby Jon benjen would've denied his right like a normal stark woyld

[@nickschulte3915]

I wouldn’t say the peace had little to do with Robert. Yes he was a bad king when he was engaged, well, bad fiscally. But he was an excellent figure head. The beloved war hero that made enemies into friends pretty easily. I’d say the idea of mythos of Robert had a big part in the peace. Plus he was self aware enough to know he was a bad ruler and leave most of the work to competent people. That’s no small thing either.

[@seekingabsolution1907]

The best decision for him and everyone else would have been following through on his plans to go to Essos and become a sellsword. Let all that nonsense with Jeofry work itself out in its own way this time maybe even without the Death of Ned because killing him might bring Robert back to take revenge, and the small council might well have succeeded in working around the brat enough to deal with the threat of the Others or the targaryans return without a civil war.

[@user-ol2pk9kz7o]

On the greyjoy rebelion baelon said the seven kingdoms are divided how robert was married to a lannister his best friend was warden of the north his best friend's wife was the child of the lord of the riverlands his foster father was the lord of the vale and his foster father's wife was another child of the lord of the riverlands and if that is not enough the greyjoys also attacked the reach which means the tyrells will join robert as well only dorne stayed out even tho they might have sent some support to prove they are loyal to robert

[@qasim2307]

baelon was so stupid

[@Allblue1]

I Know This guy can't wait for house of dragons to come up because there will be more he can talk about which I can't wait for

[@biggoosedaddy9988]

I always wondered who sat the throne while Robert was traveling. He didn’t have a Hand. The counsel was mostly treacherous in retrospect.

[@nicmagtaan1132]

Tywin definitely tywin

[@mrscaryfox3955]

Wdym? After he left for Ned?

[@Jbreeze3878]

So there was not a sitting king nor hand of the king in KL during Robert's 2 month round trip to Winterfell and back?

[@lego_dane7619]

am i the only one who remembers that Whycreate had 340.000 subs?

[@innerwildvoicestudio3729]

He also had a long summer

[@blakebailey22]

Will you make content for Elden Ring?

[@rumbleinthebumble8180]

Cersi and Jaime had been sleeping together for years before she married Robert. It didn't begin on their wedding day, it continued.🙄

[@DesolatedChild018]

“…disastrous seeds were being planted, in other women and in Cersei” Holy shit, I almost did a spit take. You got me Dornish style man. That was so sneaky and so sharp that Oberyn would’ve been proud.

[@Toto-95]

I would have just tasked Jamie with protecting Robert's bastard child. That way, anything happens to her, Jamie pays with his life 🙃

[@G_Kchrst]

People always fail to realise how bad of a move it was to marry Stannis with a Florent, actively making The Tyrells enemies of The Baratheons (and then he also gave Stannis Dragonsyone, lol). If Jon Arryn had given Mace Tyrell or Leyton Hightower the Master of Coin seat at the small Council and had married Stannis with a Dornish wife it would have been much better. Stannis was bound with a House that threatened The Tyrells but has low might to truly claim Highgarden. When Robert died Stannis instantly started with The Lannisters, The Starks and The Martells as sworn enemies and you don't want both The Reach and The Westerlands as your enemies, you can't practically ever rule Westeros.These two areas are most of Westeros economy and population.

[@markeustace199]

he was like one of those rural politicians who does well when they just need a steady hand to keep things ticking along, he seems to have a knack of knowing where he's weak and compensating by putting capable people in place Like Jon Arryn as Hand to deal with the diplomacy and small admin grunt work and his brother Stannis who basically had the job of running the realm's defence and navy and got stuck with the job of Guard Dog of Westeros on Dragonstone just in case those devious Targaryans or essos supporters try sneaking in the back door ---------------------------------------------------------- I'm thinking of him being like Charles II also knicknamed "The Merry Monarch" who had an army of mistresses and bastards, had a reign of mostly peace & quiet and put his brother James who was the serious, sober, v. religious guy in charge of the Royal Navy and other boring admin crap

[@huanquocmanh416]

Bobby b best king

[@markjerue9734]

Hypothetical scenario - what if Cersei was stillborn (IE was dead upon birth)?

[@zico739]

That’s a great peace by Westeros standards.

[@stephenaseulean2042]

I feel like Robert is just like William the conqueror. Fought extremely hard to get the throne, then became lazy and used the throne to be comfortable and give freebies to his friends

[@ethanragbir8311]

Robert wasn't a good King from an administrative standpoint, however he was a good monarch. He was loved, respected and had a healthy degree of fear that was instilled through the Greyjoy Rebellion. He left administrative work to his small council, other than the debt they were good at what they did which led to the lasting peace and prosperity.

[@banlungx001]

wow , greyjoy REALLY pick a bad time to rebel.

[@daemontargaryen5636]

Why are the Martells always illustrated as white people 😭

[@CuntyMisanthrope]

Doesn't suprise me 🙄

[@keyseeker1]

It was better than what came before and better than what came after.

[@od9694]

What I dont get is why did robert let greyjoy remain the lords of the iron islands after he defeated them??

[@metallicoustic6733]

2:28 that looks more like Aziz from History of Westeros than Jon Arryn lol

[@mattwho81]

Robert was a terrible administrator and wastrel of coin, but as a king he has merits. First he was a fierce warrior, no medieval king ever ruled without being successful at war. He was very personable, it was said he could fight a man in the morning and drunk under the table in the evening. He always enacted his threats, he understood well that fear of his wrath kept the princes and lords in line. Lastly he appointed competent advisors to positions of power and kept out of their way. A bad king yes, but also a strong king which may be more important.

[@spottedslash4256]

He wasn't regal nor was the most intelligent. But he had Strength and charisma and enough awareness to have Ned Stark help him be fair and stable. He knew his weaknesses. I can respect that.

[@shanenolan8252]

Pax roberto .

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

Robert was a warlord - he could unite a country and fight battles Robert as a king. He hated the fact he didn’t have to do anything - a king relies on his court

[@MultiAlerocks]

The best part of this whole video is you just saying Baelon is a stupid character lol

[@willing_to_learn]

3:29 baratheon-lannister alliance, not baratheon-targaryen alliance.

[@rileydavidson207]

I sure many a women in Kings Landing saw saw Robert's piece

[@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0]

Banger

[@esmereldavilla-lobos4907]

I miss u😫😫😫😫

[@itzek3917]

Siu

[@SHARKVADERS]

WC!!!

[@evandavies5906]

People remember bad rulers fondly, when they get a worse one. For example King Farouk of Egypt was regarded as a playboy and a wastrel in his day, but today many people in Egypt remember him as a great ruler.

[@nicxl3035]

Why didn’t Roberto just leave for esso?

[@mr.wilson9941]

Robert was a better king than rhaegar wouldve been. Everyone simps for rhaegar since he liked to play music, was a romantic and looked good but at the end of the day he abducted the daughter of his vassal who was bethrothed to yet another vassal and decided to raw dog her while his dad, a crazy tyrant, burned her family alive. What robert did, starting a rebellion to get her released, was absolutely justified and in fact it would have been the kings job to get her back. Rhaegar disrespected the martells, starks and baratheons by abducting lyanna and showed the realm and its lords that he cared neither for them or their honor or families. For all they knew he was a more handsome aegon 4th in the making. Yes robert had his flaws, yes he was a bad dad, yes he was oblivious to the corruption in his court but the court was always corrupt, many court members like stannis and varys were actually very capable, he had a good eye for who to appoint as hand and his children turned out alright, joff being the exception but thats certainly more the fault of cersei. All things considered he was among the better kings on the iron throne

[@TheRoguePrince0]

3:08 actually that's not true. tywin didn't order there deaths but he didn't say to spare them either.

[@bryansylvestrew5024]

Peters spending habits is wayy worse when you realize "dragon's" were actually the equivalent of like $100 irl. He spent the kingdom into hundreds of millions or billons if we include possible intrest in coin worth of debit if we use the lowest currency "Brass pennies" or even "silver stags".

[@pebblesramirez9290]

Robert put the kingdom in debt.

[@ryankwon8785]

To be honest, the Dornish hated the Lannisters for killing Elia. Robert and Ned had no say in what happens to Elia.

[@Psychodelli91]

Bobby B! Love the dude. Great soldier. But great soldiers do not make good kings.

[@austinbridges518]

Robert Baratheon, Sellsword King, the Western Stag Badass spinoff