KingBank 2x16GB DDR5-6000CL30 kit overclocked to DDR5-6400 CL28 with Ryzen 9 9950X

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

Link to buy this dimms(not affiliate): www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006954290533.html?pdp_npi=

[@paulstraszewski736]

Please check the new 12B microcode bios

[@MrK3n4r]

Every vid you make gives me hope. Purchased Kingstone Beast 6000 CL 30 (A-Hynix) for my Ryzen 7500f and moba Asrock B650 Steel Legend. Never done RAM OC before and it's rough for begginers. So far i can't make them stable. Aiming for 6400/2133. Hardest part is to know what effects what and how i should approach tuning. Gathering info mainly from you and Aeryn. Reading every day, doing my best. Thank you!

[@thor.halsli]

32gb or 64gb? Voltage? See if you can get 6200/2066 stable first. If you do get that stable but can't get it stable at 6400/2133, see if you can if cl32

[@MrK3n4r]

@@thor.halsli 32gb one, i can boot 6400/2133 no problem but got errors or blue screen of deaths. trying to figure out if or how to make that stable.

[@rawhide_kobayashi]

@@MrK3n4r if you haven't figured it out yet... set your uclk to 1/2 mode and see if it's actually your memory, or the uclk. if it's the uclk, and you're already at 1.3v on soc, there's nothing you can do. you just can't run 1:1 mode that high. you'll have to settle with 6200mhz... Or... 7600mhz+ in 1/2 mode... which is also far from a guarantee on a zen 4 cpu on a 4 dimm board.

[@registeredblindgamer4350]

I got super lucky. I bought my 9700x with 6400MT/s CL32. Booted up no problem and after stability testing it is rock solid stable. I reckon I am incredibly lucky.

[@atirta777]

6400MT/s 1:1 should be the average now right? Try booting 6600MT/s 1:1 at 1.3V SOC see if that works

[@registeredblindgamer4350]

@@atirta777 It definitely isn't the average sadly. I have seen people stuck at 5600MT/s with a 9700x. I will need to test 6600MT/s. It'll be interesting if it works. Before that I will probably optimise the voltages for my 6400MT/s tune.

[@atirta777]

​@@registeredblindgamer4350 That sounds odd. I only have a sample size of three Zen 4 CPUs but every one of them did 6400MT/s 1:1 with less than 1.25V SOC. And I imagined Zen 5 had the exact same IMC as Zen 4, if not a slightly refined version. Maybe some early production inconsistency I guess

[@registeredblindgamer4350]

@@atirta777 Who knows. Might be luck of the draw or even motherboard dependant. I am sure AHOC did a video messing with 8000MT/s and most AM5 boards hit a wall very quick. Might be awful boards mixed with meh IMC's giving people terrible speeds. My SoC auto is 1.25v. I tuned all the timings now. I will try get that SoC as low as possible like I did for my 5600x. That thing was a golden sample running 4x8gb 4000MT/s CL16 1:1 at 1.025 SoC. and 1.45 DRAM voltage.

[@pwrcowfeeder]

My 7800X3D does 6600 1:1 at like 1.22 SOC, 6400 is like 1.18 worst case scenario for it. Ive booted 6800 1:1 before too but it doesnt matter for me cause im just running 8000 in gear 2 anyways

[@vulcan4d]

DDR5 training is interesting. I have a stable system but only with training on, if I disable training it won't even boot into Windows.

[@sjoerd104]

shouldnt trfc be dividable by 16 in your case? so 416 or 432 would be closest

[@richardjung9562]

8:28 "the um ahh the oth um ahh the only ahh"😂😂

[@realiesOne]

🫠

[@sjoerd104]

So the 'sweet spot' for 6200MT/s would be 3100*2/3 = 2067mhz fclk? If i can run 2167 or 2200 that would be better right?

[@sjoerd104]

my 7800x3d seems to do quite well when it comes to fclk, running 6200 (28 36 32 30, gdm off, 1,43V) and 2200 fclk at 1.2vSOC and i havent seen any signs of instability yet. linpack + y cruncher pass and yt audio doesnt glitch, ive also tested prime95 large with normal avx and ive found this is actually a good test for both ram and fclk. i cant post with dram high voltage mode enabled, even if i dont actually increase the voltage. Never worked on this msi b650 gaming plus for me. I think this is why i basically cant run 6400, im not sure though.

[@proklet4694]

I run 2200 on my 6200, and yes, it is faster. But on 6400 I would go with 2133

[@sjoerd104]

@@proklet4694 I see, thanks, I'll try 2167 asw

[@PowellCat745]

At 6200, 2167mhz is probably still faster even in terms of latency. At 6400, 2167 isn’t worth it with its latency hit over 2133.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

yeah 2066 for 6200. Or 2166/2200

[@Esixty]

what settings i need to change to run this kit without fan ?

[@tacoterito22]

it would be great if you do some games benchmarl to see if the frametime and framepacing its better or not some memorys OC, like 8000/7800 vs 6400/6200 and like that. that would be amazing

[@AdamKafei]

Didn't you say in the explaining timings series that the lowest DDR5 could go on tRRDL/S and tFAW was 8/8/32 on account of data burst length?

[@pierrepruh]

I have a 6000 CL36-36-36 kit and I'm using it stable with 30-36-36-30 and FCLK 2033 with ctrl c + v timings from your video ''Easy memory timings for Hynix DDR5''. VDD and VDDQ are default 1.35. Should I adjust something? What would be the next step to extract a little more? And would it compensate? I went up to 6200 and FCLK 2067 and it gave errors on TM5, should I increase the voltage or leave it like this and it's good enough? mobo: b650m aorus pro ax, VSOC is 1.200v

[@IIHydraII]

Ez AMD Hynix timings v2? 🫣

[@Jeboi96]

I have the Dominator platinum rgb 7200 2x16gb. I cant run it higer because of the 7200 limit on my motherboard but i would like to tweek it a little to make it respond faster. What should i do or look for?

[@ibeebzz9804]

I can’t believe that works with .95 Vddp. Maybe something is different in the newer agasa’s? I’d be willing to bet that your cpu would work at 6600 and post at 6800 at 1.05 -1.10 Vddp

[@auzziebridger]

Can you elaborate on why you set ProcODT to 240? I manually set this pull up/down in my bios but zen timings continues to show 48.. Struggling to get stable 6400 with even the relaxed timings you offered

[@cliche_AF]

It's a zen timings bug

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

@@cliche_AF I think suspect it might a 9000 series thing.

[@cliche_AF]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking That's kinda crazy then , guess I'll find out when 98x3d drops

[@korsame]

Just purchased the X870E Taichi Lite & G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo. I just seen your other video on how to set easy timings and didn’t know if it would be the same for the X870E “chipset.” However, I’m running 7800X3D- don’t know if that changes things.

[@icardias8639]

hello sorry about the noob question but i use xmp on a corsair memory on am5 7800x3d to 6000hz and cl36 the vddp is 1,8 thats normal ?

[@ogpixelz]

Does CPPC exist in BIOS for non X3D cpus on AM5? Very curious.

[@erickelly4107]

VDD requirement of 1.65v for 6400 CL 28 seems pretty high.. I run 2X 16 GB Dual Rank (Yes 2X 16 GB does come in "Dual Rank" just not very common) Adie @ 6200 CL 26 with VDD: 1.55v - VDDQ: 1.38v - VDDIO: 1.36v PYPrime: 7.503s Aida64 Latency: 55.3ns (scales precisely with PYPrime improvements) Clam Cashe latency: 70.15ns - Also scales with Aida64 latency so this notion that Aida64 latency isn't "legit" doesn't seem to hold up to reality. It's the "bandwidth" test that aren't very useful, the Aida64 Latency test seems to work just fine. 15 hours Karhu w/ Cashe enabled 12 hours Y Cruncher VT3 2000% HCI Etc.. ASUS ROG Strix X670E-F R7 7800X3D

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

it's not required I just couldn't be bothered to turn it down. 1.55-1.6 would probably work. Though most of my A-die has need 1.65 to do CL26 at 6200.

[@erickelly4107]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I see, you are not having issues with cooling or anything so it's all good. Anyway I learned a lot from you over the years, thank you.

[@sjoerd104]

@@erickelly4107 would 8.870s pyp be normal for 6200C28 and a 7800X3D?

[@erickelly4107]

@@sjoerd104 You should aim for under 8 seconds here. Stock with EXPO (6000 CL 30) my chip runs 8.3s for PYPrime / 63.5ns Aida64 Latency.

[@sjoerd104]

Hey man, how did you get dram HVM to work? I have an x670e-e and I can enable it, however, if I set any voltages related to dram it doesn't post with C5 code. I've been trying for 2 hours​@@erickelly4107

[@PrettyMan1980]

Hi. Can you please make a video and investigate how the new micro code from Intel handles the GB Z790 mainboard ? The best setup for low temp and voltage. Thank you.

[@MrScanko]

thanks for advices, i think finally fix my freezzes in w11. power down mode - disable gear mode - disable memory context restore - disable kings bank 6400 cl 32 expo - all timings stock UPD: no :(

[@sebastianalleyne1073]

It ok to copy these ram timings?

[@CaptainCave-t3n]

Seems like alot of voltage for cl28 6400 i have almost identical settings with 1.42. Interesting

[@Jarrahfe]

90 comments are happy, and i'm still with 0d error code, and looking for a fix....

[@Sectorz]

I fallow you since a long time and I wanted to know 6000MHz CL 24 is impossible at this time ou you haved some rare stick that can do it ?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qai5Z5qIpM5-icUsi=_c8DbbMmownflfjA

[@BLACK_POWER02]

Testing and Optimizing the 0x12b Microcode on the ASUS motherboard please 🙏

[@proklet4694]

HUB saw some X870E motherboards running 8200/8300 expo on Zen5, I would really like to see what you can do with it 🙂

[@PowellCat745]

Steve tested with prime95 instead of y-cruncher, so a bit unfortunate there. He also locked the primary timings when he should’ve loosened them to respective XMP timings when increasing the clock speed. We don’t know whether those boards truly support 8000+ yet.

[@proklet4694]

@@PowellCat745 He locked them to XMP timings of 8000. So if 8300 works on those timings, you can be confident that with tuning you can probably make 8200 stable ;)

[@PowellCat745]

@@proklet4694 my point is he should’ve adjusted primary timings based on actual XMP timings at a given frequency. For example, at 8400, he should’ve loosened the tRP to 52 or something to ensure that the memory wasn’t the bottleneck. We wanted to see the limits of a motherboard, not the memory.

[@proklet4694]

@@PowellCat745 That is true, but you also said that we do not know if those motherboards support 8000+ yet. What he did is enough to see that they do.

[@PowellCat745]

@@proklet4694 we don’t because he tested with prime95. The actual limit might be lower. I can boot and run prime95 on an X670E 4-DIMMer as well.

[@lmchua8644]

Can you check out m24b on a ryzen setup? They should be able to hit 6000 and 6400 easily. Would love to see what timings u can get with m24b on a ryzen setup.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

don't have any

[@lmchua8644]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking dam, any plans on getting any non h24m 24gb ram? would really love to see some of them in action

[@catonturtle3202]

i thought ryzen 9000 used tRFC2 and tRFCpb?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

I bet they still don't do anything but haven't checked yet.

[@ShadowInGame]

Do you have memory timings for Ryzen 9 7900X3D with 6000mhz CL30 ( using msi motherboard )

[@SeventhCircle77]

I got lucky with my 7700 running 6400 1:1 and can do 2200 fclk as well. Boots 6600 but not stable but not sure how to stabilize it anyways. Also using bclk to get it to 5.65ghz and dynamic oc switcher for 5.45 all core

[@thor.halsli]

With a 6400 kit you should get worse latency/preformance with fclk at 2200 then at 2133

[@SeventhCircle77]

@@thor.halsli 2200 has about 3000 mbps higher read but like a .5ns latency penalty

[@thor.halsli]

@@SeventhCircle77 That's less of a latency penalty than i thought it would be. I wonder if it's the same on a double CCD, and or on a 3d v-cache one. Thanks for answering

[@thor.halsli]

@@SeventhCircle77 Quick question while i have you. Do you have an external clock or do you the Bclk for the whole board?

[@SeventhCircle77]

@@thor.halsli external clock

[@25MHzisbest]

Seen the CL28 6000 kit Kingbank (Memoria) are going? 28-35-35-76 @1.45v profile. A die.

[@proklet4694]

My Kingston kit does 6200 cl28 @ 1.45V, so 6000 cl 28 at that voltage is really not impressive

[@PowellCat745]

@@proklet4694it’s an xmp profile so I’m not sure why you’re picking at it.

[@25MHzisbest]

@@proklet4694 It's the EXPO profile

[@proklet4694]

@@PowellCat745 That is still just basic stuff. Not to mention that secondary timings are still probably very loose, and the most performance comes from tuning your secondaries.

[@proklet4694]

To further clarify, you can take any 6000 cl30 kit and manually make it 28-35-30-30. It would be faster and also probably cheaper than the one mentioned here. The point is: kit like this is just a noob trap for people who don't know what they are doing. It's a way for companies to farm free money from people.

[@JaoWick84]

where i can find that hci memtest wrapper?

[@PowellCat745]

Google RunMemtestPro

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

IDK I got it from a friend.

[@IM_A_BEAR_LOL]

Would timings be different for 32GB SR Hynix chips?

[@PowellCat745]

32GB is likely DR

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

are those even available yet?

[@IM_A_BEAR_LOL]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Maybe I'm confused. When I open ZenTimings my kit is reported as SR. I have a 64GB kit (2 x 32GB F5-6000J3040G32G)

[@PowellCat745]

@@IM_A_BEAR_LOL That one is DR. I had the same kit.

[@IM_A_BEAR_LOL]

@@PowellCat745 I am the big dumb. I know now that ZenTimings isn't reliable about rank and to look at the HWINFO64 report. I am has learning

[@Matty-rn5gt]

My 9950X seems to handle 6400 stable with UCLK/2 but at 1:1 but isn’t stable. VT3 immediately fails. 6200 seems to work well. Dialling in timings now…

[@ArkenShromAbuser]

Can you do a new video about the new Intel microcode Ox12B . My 13700k Is cooking like crazy . :O

[@ChrisGR93_TxS]

👌

[@DinuDaniel-v1o]

👍👍👍

[@justfun5479]

Watching your videos require a LOT of patience

[@WillFuI]

Finally a decent mc

[@de4ler]

NICE . but does this make a difference in some workloads or games ?

[@proklet4694]

Difference between 6200 cl28 and 6400 cl28 in CPU bound games is 0-1 fps. So this is just for science or people with OCD's 😁

[@ConeJellos]

Mouth noises.

[@user-ew8lt6yi2i]

who the heck is kingbank... 😐

[@ConeJellos]

Yer mum.

[@OGKilla103]

I wonder if you could try g.skill trident neo 4x32 128gb cl 30 40 40 96.

[@graphz07]

What you think i could get from my 7200mhz gskill 24gb x2 kit (36 - 46 - 46 - 115 - 160) ? i was able to go down 6400 - 32 - 36 - 36 - 82 - 115 but unreal games are unstable :( (X670e msi tomahawk + 9950x)