Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance - #9 - Rinzler

[@psyched1804]

"Does that mean we're friends?" Quorra, that's a silly question. You've spent more than 5 seconds with Sora, of course you're his friend now. All will become friends with Sora.

[@erwinlimawan3158]

Sora is a katamari of friendship. You might come in kicking and screaming, but all will be friends with Sora eventually.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Even Maleficent, if she can bear to be around him long enough.

[@mgormley7530]

"Make sure the contents match the label" says Terranort, someone who's contents most definitely do not match the label. Also combatant 13 is a nice bit of foreshadowing

[@rmsgrey]

Not necessarily foreshadowing - after all, Roxas already is/was number 13, so you can explain it simply as a reference back to the Organization.

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Aftshadowing.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

midShadowing

[@TheBoundFenrir]

Uh, I'm pretty sure that one isn't Terranort...he's much to youthful looking...

[@mgormley7530]

@@rmsgrey and based on events at the end of the game it could be both. KH really loves the number 13

[@almostirrelevant9181]

There’s something really funny about a serious scene with a gigantic technicolor bug twitching in the background

[@almostirrelevant9181]

37:10 Go sheep-me!

[@Screwtapello]

32:44 "Hand it over, and I'll change Rinzler back into Tron." "The Keyblade? I... can't. No, really, I literally can't. Watch this!" "See what I mean?"

[@superfiver]

There is an ability you can get from Guru catdog dream eater called leaf bracer that once unlocked is permanently unlocked, it makes it so your healing cannot be interrupted. I highly recommend it.

[@zmanjace1364]

Sora is the most naive character I've ever seen. It's a miracle he hasn't been taken away in a windowless van with free candy spray painted on the side of it.

[@shadeknight6537]

Looks like Dan is overdue for a training montage. And look into why Sora's drop gauge drops so much faster than Riku's all the time.

[@mulduls]

SPOILERS: Could be a reference to Riku’s Dream-Eaterness

[@NobodyC13]

The whole fishbowl aesthetic for the worlds hub is definitely something designed for the 3DS. I remember Notre Dame's bell towers popping out of the screen and the ringing bells cleanly layered over when I had the 3D effect on.

[@Overhazard]

Ah, so it's not actually supposed to form a Mickey Mouse icon when the three of them are viewed together on the world map?

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

@@OverhazardThe perspective is slightly off, but it could be that as well.

[@dominicmurphy8986]

For convenience try keeping a 3rd deck with just Drop-Me-Not items. That way you don't have to change your main deck each time and just quickly switch to and back.

[@SilverArrow23]

Dang this channel has brought me so much joy. Thank you so much Dan & Carrie for everything you do

[@InsrtCoins]

Rinzler sounds like the name of the grumpy principle in a high school sitcom.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Actually, the name comes from a Lucasfilm editor.

[@perro692]

Out of everything in these games i never thought i would have this much emotional investment in Sora's friendship with Tron

[@thegustbag]

Dan as an anime protagonist: "It's because I have everyone with me that I can be this strong, DudeWithStick! It's because my friends are with me!" Also: Um... I guess it's no longer Axel, huh? Should we start calling him Lea?

[@rmsgrey]

But I just got "Axel" memorised!

[@timothymclean]

Does _anyone_ remember Axel from when he was Lea?

[@pyrosianheir]

Eh, not really. (Slight) spoiler for the next game, he just says to keep calling him Axel.

[@pyrosianheir]

Also, maybe look a bit closer at individual spirit's skill boards. That will let you figure out what is on who, so that you can focus more on the spirits that have skills and abilities you want to have, like Leaf Bracer on Callow Guru.

[@AM-we1es]

I love how sora always forgets he can nort the keyblade back from non-welders. He could just hand it over, have tron back, call back the blade

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

It wouldn't last long enough to do that. It seems to me that the Keyblade automatically warps back to him.

[@alexivan8615]

Either way the game is full of inconsistencies and contradictions.

[@krishnansubramoni7801]

@@alexivan8615 Weirdness and convoluted? Yes. Inconsistencies and contradictions? Not at all.

[@GabrielDalposso]

Checked on khwiki, sleeping worlds are ones that fell into darkness but have not completely revived, so are in a stage of sleep. The dreams inside them are reflections of what happened there before they were eliminated, so time is relative (and kind of doesn't move on...)

[@GabrielDalposso]

You'll see this better in the next few worlds

[@Actual_Mr_G]

- Don't treat Riku and Sora as stereotypes. They both can use magic, they both can use physical attacks. And they both need them. - Check the Dream Eaters that you already used and unlock their skill links. The red dots in the boards are permanent unlocks. - Try using each character as much as you can before you drop. Those last 30 seconds before you drop are pretty good for farming and grinding. - If you want to make the most out of the time you have with each character the best choice is buying "Drop Decelerator" at least a level when you buy drop bonuses. - Don't be afraid to use as many materials as you want while creating Dream Eaters. The really difficult to get materials are easily noticeable, and most of them ate no more than a 5 minute grind. Good episodes, as per usual. Unfortunate that this game is not that long ... except while grinding those Dream Eaters levels ...

[@mulduls]

“Until you remember who you are.” Mufasa just called, he wants his line back.

[@Gilbot9000]

Happy to lend the assist on the Riku boss, Dan! Also, maybe I'm just dense, but I'm noticing the 3 worlds line up to make a Mickey head on the select screen.

[@AllieYea]

I really like the bosses of this world. The Chamantis has a really cool design and it feels neat to use the battle arena against it, and the Rinzler fight has a lot of emotion and requires a lot of precision on your part to block and parry. It feels like a real sword fight.

[@deselby86]

Adding a Pokémon system to the already scattered Kingdom Hearts franchise makes this game nearly inscrutable. Dan, thank you for doing what you can to keep some semblance consistency.

[@rachelhahn2979]

41:00 Ienzo, how are you seeing anything? Like, I get it’s probably a style choice - which I respect - but headbands? Hair clips? Heck, a bandana? Hell, I have long hair and I need a hairnet if I'm making food. How do you science with those bangs? I feel like you’re being irresponsible?

[@theophrastusbombastus8019]

8:25 When your custom character appears in a cutscene.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

So let's clarify what Xemnas and Young Xehanort were talking about: - Space Paranoids, the data world of Ansem the Wise's computer system, is a copy of ENCOM's system, which in time became The Grid. This in turn means that Ansem the Wise's Tron was copied from the original Tron here, so this Tron wouldn't remember Sora from before. - Some of the memories and feelings that Sora has belong to other hearts - something that has been especially evident several times in KH2 with Roxas's feelings. - The Sleeping Worlds that Sora is in are themselves still real worlds, not dreams.

[@ningee5755]

One day I’d like a cross-series compilation video of every “yes indeed” that Dan says. I can’t tell if it’s more, or less common in non-dark souls videos but I’ve been re-watching all of it and it seems like there’s one every other episode or so.

[@readingtoomuchintothings834]

26:44 The worlds had fallen to darkness before or around KH1, however at the end of KH1 all the worlds were pulled back from the Darkness, hence how Mushu and Simba know us but are part way into their own stories. These worlds however, had refused to reconstitute after being released from Darkness, so Sora and Riku were sent in, through dream selves, to awaken them so that they can have the power to wake sleeping hearts in the real world as it would be needed to save the BBS team in time for the big throw down in KH3. Though as we see in an up coming world that does mean some odd things for the people met here.

[@Ninjinhah]

20:00 Hey! I think that's a Lucky Emblem!

[@TheBoundFenrir]

*stares into the middle distance as the PTSD flashbacks rise up from the depths*

[@supersonic776]

Been loving these 40 min episodes btw! I enjoy long let's play episodes greatly. It's like watching a mini TV show :)

[@isadoracostahamsi163]

I love how u put the video out at exactly the time I have to watch it!

[@TheMoocow2009]

8:30 Easiest boss fight ever? 13:00 *Hit it over and over with a key AND THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP! Can't forget that part.

[@EnderPryde]

"Be compelled by the sheep ball" Oh how past dan would react if he saw the internets reaction to the newest announced pokemon - Wooloo.

[@timothymclean]

Something weird occurred to me. Why can't Riku just help the Users get out of this world and into their own the way he got there, circumventing the entire plot? 17:30: If Riku can't just drag out people who have a way of returning home because _mumble mumble_ Masquerade, couldn't he at least rescue people who'd otherwise be trapped with people who hate them murderously, and bring them somewhere where people already knew about all the worlds? 27:30: Come on Sora, why are you trying so hard to get through to someone whose memories have been altered to the point that they think the person messing with their mind is one of their best friends-wait, never mind, I get it. 37:25: I never thought we'd need a Determination montage for _Kingdom Hearts._ 2:00: Aw, that was just a seppuku button? I was hoping it'd at least be a kamikaze button. 14:40: Come on and slam. 15:45: Ah, yes, vaguely optimistic babble that's completely incoherent when you think about it for more than five seconds. This guy fits well into the Kingdom Hearts universe. 29:15: You'd think a Nobody would be more sympathetic to people who are dehumanized just because they lack a metaphysical whatchamosis, which _supposedly_ prevents them from feeling emotion despite all the emotions they obviously express. I guess he has more in common with DiZ than they realized. 32:50: Sora, can't you just zwoosh it back to you after Tron's fixed? 40:20: Wow, took you long enough. Sora didn't offer her friendship for almost half an hour! That's, like, at least ten times as long as normal. 42:45: You volunteer for them.

[@rmsgrey]

There's more than one reason why Sora wouldn't be willing to trade the keyblade for Tron. One is the reason given - that he needs it to save everyone, and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one. Another is that it wouldn't be honourable to deal in bad faith - he might well be happy to give a friend the chance to discover they can't keep it (as he did with Jack Sparrow in KH2) but not an enemy. Besides, if it then turned out that the enemy had the ability to keep it after all, we're back to the given reason. As for Riku getting people out of the world, it'd be like Sora trying to rescue Leon from Castle Oblivion - the people here are the dreams of the world, not the actual people - the sleeping worlds are replaying events that happened before they fell to darkness.

[@timothymclean]

@@rmsgrey Fair enough about the dealing in bad faith thing, and I guess about the sleeping-worlds thing (though that doesn't seem particularly clear; I thought they were actually visiting the actual worlds in wherever they went after being Lost To Darkness).

[@rmsgrey]

@@timothymclean The deal with the Sleeping Worlds gets a lot clearer in Pranksters Paradise.

[@adamhurd1560]

The power of sheep compels you!

[@TheBoundFenrir]

Dan: "Remember who you are!" Dan, this is The Grid, not The Pride Lands! ;)

[@Megaboss_Bor]

Hey Dan when you are in a flowmotion grind press the x button to do a teleporting attack. It is like bonkers unbalanced

[@Jeffefferyful]

He needs to use flowmotion more in general. He keeps dying in regular fights and feeling underleveled because he's not using one of the major mechanics of the game

[@fionnagatechronicler1088]

Riku has bat wings... Iaughed so freaking hard.

[@alexivan8615]

So Flynn had the power to absorb and destruct CLU for 20 years and just now decided to do that in front of his son? Ok. 🙃

[@PatrickZysk]

Rinzler shouldn't remember Sora. The Tron that Sora met was just a facsimile that Ansem had. The entire world of Space Paranoids is a recreation of The Grid that Ansem found convenient to base his computer system on. That Tron and Rinzler are two different people.

[@ningee5755]

That moment when Xemnas is more tech savvy than Sora, using the phrase “bits and bytes.”

[@alexvannice9371]

10:00 Carrie speaking TRUTH

[@CulVols]

YAY, its more Dan!

[@phyrofox1641]

Maybe Dan will get lucky and one of the chests will give him a sense of direction. Having Riku in the lead is funny considering the ending

[@CalmMadness42]

Also, those the bowls together kinda look like Mickey's head. It's subtle foreshadowing that The Mouse is evil and wants to control everything behind the scenes. Whoops, nevermind, that's the real world

[@Shadeius]

Just wait for KH4 where it's revealed that Mickey has all along been Mickey's heartless and we will also meet Keyxcim, and their goal has been making the Really Real Organization XIII.

[@Duiker36]

"Keyxcim" will be pronounced "Chi-sim", too.

[@MaraK_dialmformara]

"It looks like thunder-type moves work well against these programs." Yes! You're shorting them out and I love it. PS I also love the code snippets. This is how programming *should* work. Aspen is a Wooloo! Look, Xemnas, tell me something interesting or go back to Metal Gear Solid 2 where you belong. (I know somebody in the last video's comments mentioned time travel, but all the signs of that I've seen so far are explained just as well by dream logic. Maybe better. Still not convinced.)

[@unversedhero6028]

That was me, just don't worry about that for now. By the way, who do you think is more adorable, Wooloo or Aspen?

[@MaraK_dialmformara]

@@unversedhero6028 Wooloo, because I know it'll still be cute after I turn its fur into sweaters.

[@patricklewis4201]

Trying to remember the Tron cartoon that was on Disney XD, it was really good. If they ever do Tron again I'd love to see that

[@Mikesean45]

Tron Uprising?

[@patricklewis4201]

@@Mikesean45 Yea think that was it thank you

[@mulduls]

42:29 Ah, my Ienzo boy, so smart, yet no one ever listens to him except Ansem the Wise.

[@Sky-vj5fg]

re: the disney trivia. wait what? i thought the light-up suits in tron were all hand drawn onto each frame. were the battery powered suits for the sequel?

[@PlayFramePlus]

You are correct! I failed to specify that. :P

[@samuelturner6076]

9:52 Yes, all my yes. Heck the derezed music video is the dopest thing, gimme more of that plz. 2:17 Nomura Dream Eater for iOS when. 25:58 Basically yes, the sleeping worlds are worlds that fell to darkness with the rest of them in KH1, but they didn’t fully recover upon Ansem’s defeat like in KH1, the reason for this is still unknown but my head cannon is that is it really a leap of logic to think that if everyone underwent a massive tragedy there would be some coma victims.

[@restlessDSM]

33:00 Well Final Fantasy does have a history of curing brainwashing by beating up your friends.

[@Karashata]

I have a feeling this game will never stop not quite making sense to me, but I'm definitely enjoying watching this playthrough.

[@DragonxFlutter]

He _completely_ forgot about the counter-attack after blocks, didn't he?

[@justember794]

I tried to watch this between customers at work today... It didn't work... But it made a nice thing to come home to!

[@restlessDSM]

0:55 I almost thought you were going to try for a flying V formation till I realized it was a command.

[@mart3323]

MOVING_SPARK() { de = get_nightmare() ctrl = de.get_ctrl() ctrl.insert(spark) ctrl.moving() }

[@pacha269]

the only difference between sora and a puppy is the tail. if sora had a puppy tail, he would constantly fly du to over-wagging

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

18:50 And then there was One.

[@fisherdotogg]

24:50 I hadn't ever thought about that, and I don't hear people talk about it in particular, but it seems we have spotted another failing of early Osaka Team KH games, as BBS was their first to my knowledge, this being tbe next. But uh, anyway. I don't remember if the sleeping worlds actually like...fell to darkness. I forget if it's explained why these worlds are asleep...I guess the meta explaination is that most of them are worlds that the developers forgot until now

[@Mikesean45]

I actually prefer it to something like KH2 where there was a cutscene for like every single room. Yeah, Yen Sid explains that in the beginning. I always saw it as the worlds being asleep the same way Ventus is.

[@MaraK_dialmformara]

I think what Yen Sid said was that when all the worlds were brought back from darkness, these seven didn't come back entirely, and we have to fix that.

[@rmsgrey]

If memory serves, Yen Sid exposited that, while all the worlds were saved, some of them just hit snooze and stayed in the Realm of Darkness rather than being restored to the Realm of Light

[@MaraK_dialmformara]

Wait...if the Tron who knows Sora is a fork created before Tron became Rinzler, why would Rinzler recognize Sora at all? Dream logic, I guess.

[@rmsgrey]

Because Sora's heart carries their shared memories, and Sora's presence awakens those memories in the people who are other versions of the people he knows. This was covered back in Chain of Memories, when Leon and the gang back in "Traverse Town" remembered Sora despite those versions of them never having met him. Something similar happens with Hayner, Pence and Olette in KH2. In general, alternate versions of the same person seem to share memories/hearts to an extent.

[@MaraK_dialmformara]

@@rmsgrey is *that* what Namine was talking about, because I swear she never used those words

[@coastersplus]

And, as laid out in Coded, digital worlds are weird and I don't think they actually have consistent logic for how this stuff all works

[@unversedhero6028]

Because Sora hacked this Rinzler and copied memories of his time with Tron into him. The reason Rinzler sees KH2 Sora on this Sora is due to their hearts connecting and Rinzlers heart reacting to Soras' memories. @rmsgrey is also right.

[@bwminich]

Whoa! I've CAUGHT UP. I've been several videos behind since late game Sekiro, so this is great. :D

[@tzisorey]

16:14 - THIS. IS. SPARKA!

[@pyrosianheir]

I was about to ask of I missed the Disc Battle when it went into that. XD

[@Tayruu]

Gee, I hope Dan is remembering to go through ability link trees to unlock abilities before swapping dream eaters out.

[@ICountFrom0]

I'm with you Carie.... I would gladly watch a 2.5 hour Daft Punk music video staring.... tron.

[@adamhurd1560]

What? No! Come on Sora you can't just leave Tron like that!? Wtf! What happens to Tron? Is he alive? Is he Tron again? Is he getting re-Rinzlered. Come on Sora, I at least expect you to care about your friends enough to help them out when they fall down some endless hole!

[@TalonSky]

The Kingdom Hearts team's pun game is *so* on point with this game.

[@Lukz243]

1-How come those clothes used in Tron ARE NOT CGI? 2-How would Castle Oblivion work in a digital environment?

[@rmsgrey]

Because state of the art computer technology in 1981/2 would have taken longer to CGI the clothing than simply getting some animators to draw the lights on by hand would have.

[@that1geekychick]

And in terms of the newer one (where they are actual lights on the actors' costumes) the explanation the director gave was that adding CGI lights in post couldn't affect the actual lighting of the physical objects around the set. This made the effect look obviously fake and unnatural. Would it have mattered that much, given how obviously fake the first movie looked? Arguably not, but hey, the real lights did look awesome.

[@playingmantis42]

Why does Xemnas always look like he's sad when he's spouting evil rhetoric?

[@GeminiTasiri]

The game's pretty unclear about this, but these "Sleeping Worlds" are not neccessarily Worlds that fell into darkness (though I assume that holds true for the City Of Bells), they're more like "flipsides" to other Worlds, like how Dream-Traverse Town has this whole post office and market square area that were never there before. This concept gets slightly muddled with The Grid so... Originally, Sora was supposed to re-visit Space Paranoids (the KH2 Tron World), while Riku would only visit The Grid, somewhere in development that idea got abandoned and they both visit the Grid. Instead, what's happening here is that Ansem The Wise copied The Grid and repurposed it as the Radiant Garden security system (known as "Space Paranoids") somewhen before KH1. The Grid got lost when the Heartless invaded Radiant Garden and did not resurface when it got liberated, instead falling into "slumber", its own story (featuring the human characters from the Tron movies) continuing in the dream. So Rinzler in The Grid is not the same as the Tron that Sora encountered in Space Paranoids, but they're still connected because they share the same "heart".

[@minigolfkid]

the thing Sora isn’t getting is this isn’t the Tron from Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden; there are no memories of Sora.

[@Wannapineappl3]

Don’t worry Dan, I also died many many time for the Rinzler fight.

[@damrod]

I am starting to wonder if he will be able to make enough of those dream eaters to get each and every onne of us a dream eater...

[@AsterTopaz]

35:26 Did anyone else hear this in Mufasa's voice?

[@MrAuthor3DS]

So programs were believed to not have hearts, but there were still cases that proved otherwise (Tron and Data-Sora, namely). Could this be a hint, hmmm?

[@Hgdrifter]

I'm sure it's not a coincidence that the map has a Mickey head in it. XD

[@TamTroll]

why is Sora's drop rate always so much faster then Riku's? Sora's meter drops at 1.8 while Riku's is at like, 0.8

[@2c3d48]

Perhaps it’s a punishment for choosing to drop as Riku, to stop you from just dropping back to one character constantly? He keeps choosing to drop as Riki, but with Sora he let the timer run out and dropped naturally.

[@SlackwareNVM]

Gotta catch them all! Dream Eaters!

[@aradraugfea]

Dan, if you ride out a character until you're forced to drop rather than dropping early with a whole bar left, you can stay as each character longer by having more to dump into drop decelerator. Don't know if you're doing it intentionally for the show to try and keep the two at roughly the same point in the story, but I found the game much easier to do as a repeating game of leap frog, with one character getting sometimes as much as a whole world ahead of the other, then being overtaken. There's gates already built into the story to stop you from getting too ridiculously far ahead of your bud.

[@ShadowOnTheWall666]

_"Tron, why can't I get through to you?"_ This is the part of the plot that bothered me the most, Sora believing this was the same Tron he met before. This isn't the same Tron from KHII--right? Space Paranoids is a replica Ansem made of The Grid. That's part of what Xenmas was explaining but it went right over our poor dense Sora's head. Fun fact: Nomura had originally intended for The Grid to be exclusive to Riku while Sora was to return to Space Paranoids but scrapped that idea in favor of sending them both to The Grid. As for this Rinzler battle, I got through it by spamming Flowmotion. Especially during the upside-down parts.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

-agree, Tron is more for Aesthetic than an entertainment. & since Aesthetic moves on with time Tron needs to come back with new amazing aesthetics -well, there is a Daft Punk video for Derezzed -Shame they didn't have the real world scene with Sam & Qorra -the Dual Disk is my favorite Keyblade design in this game -yeah, basically Sora & Riku are obtaining the skill to awaken Sleeping Hearts, wonder who could be in need of said power -yeah I agree Tron's side switch in the movie wasn't done very well... still, this Tron is not the same Tron from Ansem's computer -Sora you know the keyblade can just poof back into your hand, just hand it to CLU for long enough for him to betray you/fix Rinzler & then beam it back up

[@Artista_Frustrado]

-& yeah in terms of Tron Legacy's plot, Riku arrives first & does the first act of the movie then Drops to Sora who does the middle & then Drops back to Riku who plays out the third act -also, Xenmas & friend basically gave you a very convoluted "you have fallen in our trap & don't even know it. btw your heart is like a highway hotel right now"

[@tlcartist]

They obviously ripped a lot of the dialogue straight from the movie and it's a little weird. Still such a fun world though!

[@JHYW]

Xemnas tells Sora that the Tron world he visited in KH2, Space Paranoids, is a copy of this, the real Tron world. In that case, the Tron of The Grid shouldn't know or be friends with Sora, because it was his copy and not the original that befriended Sora back in KH2.

[@Shadeius]

Well Sora basically seemed to copy his memories of Tron and overwrote Rinzler with them.

[@brockmckelvey7327]

Late Squad! Where you at?

[@jazelledouglas9931]

So...confused about how to hold my divice

[@Mikesean45]

Tron world, 7/10, not enough Castor, needs more Michael Sheen.

[@ImperatorPenguin]

Eh... maybe if the third Tron would be animated. Live action Disney lately... well it's been more misses then hit's lately if you know what I mean.

[@mart3323]

SWITCH_TARGET() { gm = get_gimmick() tar = get_target() IF tar != enemy THEN tar.switch(enemy) }

[@sbsanan95]

Wanted to see Tran dance one more time

[@mart3323]

ENERGY_JAMMER() { boss = get_boss() ctrl = boss.get_ctrl() ctrl.hacking() ctrl.stop_energy() }