Kingdom Hearts IV (4) Virus Theory

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Noir Lilbomber

Noir Lilbomber

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@TakeTheWorld21
@TakeTheWorld21 5 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, this would make incredible sense if this theory was true
@NapoleChan
@NapoleChan 5 жыл бұрын
Actually way too much sense for it to be part of the story. If it was way more convoluted and contradictory to previous games then I could actually believe it lol.
@Zelink108
@Zelink108 5 жыл бұрын
Dream The Endless Oh be quiet, what has been “contradictory” to previous games?
@watcherofmemelords7967
@watcherofmemelords7967 5 жыл бұрын
I think it may just be, after all all the events from Union x are cannon and there's a direct link between kh3 and Union x and it answers why certain non-nobodies haven't aged despite being several hundred years old. In other words, I fully accept this as cannon.
@snikerz5886
@snikerz5886 5 жыл бұрын
huh.... for some reason the idea that Yazora might actually be the master of masters popped into my head in the end. I mean the name Verum Rex even means True King in latin.
@chatch621
@chatch621 5 жыл бұрын
You will never know, because developers are on hiatus
@mikeykitty1235
@mikeykitty1235 5 жыл бұрын
So basically, Brain is a free thinker. He wants to make sure the end of the world doesn't happen. So he murdered a keyblade wielder and take her place, setting the future events where Sora changed fate into motion.
@m1h0WPLS
@m1h0WPLS 5 жыл бұрын
Basically yeah
@Solorflare99
@Solorflare99 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Siegler A free thinker is what the world needs. They kept telling Sora he couldn’t go to save aqua until he learned the power of waking, but he did it his own way. That’s why Xehanort is so fascinated in Sora.
@LuckiSir
@LuckiSir 5 жыл бұрын
Although murdering Stretzilia was sad, at least we know she's still existing in the final world which means theres a chance Lauriam can find her.
@mikeykitty1235
@mikeykitty1235 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuckiSir Chances are, she will return later on in the series.
@Ncholasbloom
@Ncholasbloom 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuckiSir yeah
@Zaclink7
@Zaclink7 5 жыл бұрын
Did you just spoil KH4 because damn this seems legit af, nice theory.
@huningtonbeach1
@huningtonbeach1 5 жыл бұрын
Just let roxas fight everybody, because KH3 logic is he is damn invincible and bodies anybody he fights
@TKN8b8dy
@TKN8b8dy 5 жыл бұрын
Fax when we went against saïx i just let him go to work he was so op
@Okoloid
@Okoloid 5 жыл бұрын
I can totally see Brain being that type of anti-hero character willing to be the "bad guy" if it meant saving the future. Not so sure about him being Darkness, but we'll find out eventually. I can also see a scenario where Lauriam finds out about his sister's murder and gets consumed by vengeance. This would tie in well how he walked down the path of darkness and his nobody eventually finding its way into the Org.
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 5 жыл бұрын
Technically, that would make Brain an anti-villain: He commits villainous acts but for a noble reason. An anti-hero is the opposite, acting as a hero while being driven by self-serving or morally dubious motivations, and lacking the virtues and ideals of a proper hero.
@Okoloid
@Okoloid 5 жыл бұрын
@@RelativelyBest Y'know I never thought of it like that. Then again, I never really see people use the term "anti-villain" either. Nice to learn something new.
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 5 жыл бұрын
​@@Okoloid Glad to be of service. A simple way of thinking about it is that "hero" and "villain" basically refers to the role the character plays in the story: Heroes do "good guy" stuff like helping people and preventing/avenging suffering, while villains do "bad guy stuff" like committing crimes or trying to take over the world. The "anti" part is a modifier relating to their motivations and character. Also worth noting is that the related terms protagonist and antagonist are not strictly the same as hero and villain. The protagonist is generally the character who is going on a journey (literally or figuratively) or has a particular goal that is the focus on the story. The antagonist is the character who stands in the way of the protagonist reaching that goal, which can be deliberate/active or coincidental/passive. The protagonist is _usually_ the hero and the antagonist is _usually_ the villain, but they don't have to be. Antagonists don't even need to be bad people, they can even be friendly but still represent something the protagonist has to overcome.
@CarlosJimenez-tp3wr
@CarlosJimenez-tp3wr 5 жыл бұрын
@@Okoloid I sometimes consider myself as an anti-hero in real life...
@ahmadnoori9218
@ahmadnoori9218 5 жыл бұрын
Damn man, you put so much effort into this that I now have a lot of respect for you, plus, all of this makes sense!
@KaniCD
@KaniCD 5 жыл бұрын
Ahmad Noori yuh like this shit realllyyy got me thinking
@StijnEngels
@StijnEngels 5 жыл бұрын
If this is what happens then kingdoms hearts as whole is one of the best stories imaginable! For once KZbin recommends a video I wanted to watch
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 5 жыл бұрын
Union X does have very interesting ideas and Brain being the virus, and Eraqus being his descendant do make sense.
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, it’s my favorite story so far in the series. It’s just so interesting!!
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 5 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE The downside is it's a mobile game, maybe if it were an MMO, like Final Fantasy XIV, I'd gladly watch it more.
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed with that.
@maxorigmvs5451
@maxorigmvs5451 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we need a Re X and a Re Union X.
@lucapeyrefitte6899
@lucapeyrefitte6899 5 жыл бұрын
David Timmer true but hopefully we wouldn't have to pay to play it like in ff14
@klarenceryoughi
@klarenceryoughi 5 жыл бұрын
I've always thought about Xehanort's words in BBS: Light is overwhelming. We need a balance. What if... light shouldn't be the one to win? Trying to eradicate light is wrong, but trying to eradicate darkness is as wrong. The human heart needs both: We need selfishness to look after us. We need kindness to look after others. Ventus and Vanitas are an example of this: Are they really pure darkness/light? No. If that was like that, Anger, Fury, Despair... all those negative emotions Ventus feels when fighting in BBS, wouldn't be there. I think this will be the next development. The need of both Light and Darkness.
@SilentRaider53
@SilentRaider53 5 жыл бұрын
Since KH2, they've been trying to make that point, at least from Sora and the others. It also lends to this idea I've had about the story: light and darkness are two sides of the same coin and are thus interchangeable. I think one of the main themes of the next saga will be about trying to find the balance between light and darkness so all this madness that started from the first Keyblade War can finally end. I also say they're interchangeable because look at the characters. Xehanort had 13 darkness vessels to face the 7 guardians of lights in KH3, then at the end of KH3, we have the 5 Foretellers, plus Luxu and MoM, 7 new darknesses, and we have 13 light guardians through the Destiny Island trio, the BBS trio, the Nobody trio, Mickey, then include Donald, Goofy, and Namine, even though the last three don't wield Keyblades. Forgive me if I'm getting off topic, but this is partly why I believe KH3 wasn't just meant to end the Dark Seeker Saga, but also set up for the next saga. I believe everyone on the front cover of the KH3 case, no matter how little they contributed in KH3, will play pivotal roles in the next saga. That's what I believe any way. We'll just have to wait for the DLCs and the next spin-off game to see. Hopefully those two things will be within the next 2 or 3 years.
@klarenceryoughi
@klarenceryoughi 5 жыл бұрын
@@SilentRaider53 TBH that's why Riku was such a great character. He had balance between light and darkness
@Jahof20s
@Jahof20s 5 жыл бұрын
@@klarenceryoughi Maybe Sora can be next.
@JonRON2000
@JonRON2000 5 жыл бұрын
@@SilentRaider53 I was leaning on the 7 darknesses, 13 lights idea when I saw the epilogue. The 7 pieces on xenos side of the chess board plus the 13 heroes on the game cover is nice symmetry.
@Dreq458
@Dreq458 5 жыл бұрын
I think vanitas will return. all I really have to work with is his name: it means *vanity.* vanity is the "8th" deadly sin, so to speak. and team MoM is named after the other seven sins. vanitas would "complete" them. it isn't necessary, but I think it's something nomura would do.
@Solorflare99
@Solorflare99 5 жыл бұрын
Dreq the Dreck I wouldn’t be surprised. Ava seems to not be joining the 7 so I think that either Vanitas or Yozora will take her place. MoM may not even be considered apart of the 7 so maybe both will join.
@Ororo84
@Ororo84 5 жыл бұрын
Dont worry. im pretty sure, as long as Ventus is alive he will be back.
@VinVaris
@VinVaris 5 жыл бұрын
Dude thats wrong. Vanitas means Emptiness. It's a pun on Soras name meaning both the sky and a void.
@VinVaris
@VinVaris 5 жыл бұрын
@@BasedVegeta Sora is the Japanese word for both sky and empty.
@Legacysong2012
@Legacysong2012 5 жыл бұрын
It probably is not Ventus, seeing as Xehanort had to put Ven through horrible training to get his heart dark enough to do anything. Explained in BBS. His heart did NOT have much darkness before Xehanort
@JacobLink350
@JacobLink350 5 жыл бұрын
So... basically what's being said is that Brain, despite murdering a sweet girl, is actually a hero trying to stop the MoM by being the "virus" and have Eraqus and Sora enact his plan by stopping Xehanort in the Second Keyblade War and then do battle against MoM, Luxu and the Foretellers?? Weird theory but it makes some sense after I read the secret reports. But what gets me is that why would Luxu give Brain No Name if Brain's trying to ruin his master' plan? Isn't Luxu aware of Brain's actions?Another is that if Brain/Darkness wanted to prevent Maleficent from doing what she wants, how is it that Maleficent escapes?
@FinalEther
@FinalEther 5 жыл бұрын
Luxu was not given a book of Prophecy. He is just free balling it with his basic role of watching over they keyblade and passing it on. Also watch/wait for the box and summon everyone after the 2nd Keyblade War. I am sure he wants the MoM to return more than the rest of them cause he has no idea what is happening.
@skyhart1377
@skyhart1377 5 жыл бұрын
Luxu knew there was a virus among the Union Leaders but, correct me if I'm wrong, in the secret reports, it doesn't state he knows who that virus is. He could have given No Name to Brain not knowing he is the virus.
@Nicechibi123
@Nicechibi123 5 жыл бұрын
Considering Luxu wasnt given a book. MoM told him to just observe and pass on his keyblade to someone and do his thing. So basicly, Luxu isnt exactly going against his master's plan.
@Thearmanixp
@Thearmanixp 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Klassen no name could have given to ephemer and brain could of done something to ephemer and stole the keyblade
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 5 жыл бұрын
This is all super confusing but the one thing I wonder about is: No Name/Gazing Eye allowed the Master of Masters to predict the future because the eye on the keyblade can relate what it sees backwards in time, right? So if Luxu passed it on to Brain, MoM would have known all of this from the beginning, including Brain trying to mess with his plan. In that case, allowing Brain to inherit No Name seems more like a counter measure than a problem.
@BerrianPaleblood
@BerrianPaleblood 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting theory. I was actually thinking that Vanitas might be Darkness. Idk if anyone else had that idea. It would make sense that he could travel back to that time because Ven existed there, and the fact that Vanitas didn't have a physical form yet would explain him appearing as just a shadowy figure. Also, after defeating him in KH3, he straight up says that he is darkness.
@JonRON2000
@JonRON2000 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this exactly myself.
@qwertytypewriter2013
@qwertytypewriter2013 5 жыл бұрын
Oh. My. Gaaad. I only made the connection now that you mentioned it!
@JustSomeUmbreonfromJohto
@JustSomeUmbreonfromJohto 5 жыл бұрын
Your theory makes so much sense. This is why I love fan theories, they're so amazing and add so much to the already existing lore. Great theory man, keep em coming.
@rickycardenas5154
@rickycardenas5154 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no idea what kingdom hearts is even about anymore
@Legacysong2012
@Legacysong2012 5 жыл бұрын
But...it is not even a difficult story to follow..
@alphanerd4261
@alphanerd4261 5 жыл бұрын
@@Legacysong2012 i'd love to hear you elaborate on the nonsense you just said.
@Legacysong2012
@Legacysong2012 5 жыл бұрын
The storyline is very straight cut. What part of it is confusing, or hard to understand? Xehanort's plans? The time travel? Keyblades and how a wielder gets one? They are all explained in the games, so unless you skipped a game because you thought it was a side game (there are NO side games. All the no numbered games are still main games that continue and connect the story), everything was explained, minus the parts that set up the next story
@alphanerd4261
@alphanerd4261 5 жыл бұрын
@@Legacysong2012 there was literally a WEB BROWSER game essential to the story which isnt even playable anymore. if it's so easy to understand you should make a video explaining the story to the huge amount of people who stopped playing this series because they can't understand it due to the game having multiple games on multiple platforms multiple years apart. like hell i could barely remember kh 2 by the time kh 3 came out. im sure if i played everything one after the other i could understand but im an adult now with no time like most kh fans
@MrRobot-0
@MrRobot-0 5 жыл бұрын
I also think that the player is the orinal wielder of the kongdom key and ephemera is the wielder of tje kingdom key D, so thats why he reacted to sora since sora basicaly inherited the player caracther will per say.
@lTrikkyy
@lTrikkyy 5 жыл бұрын
probably the most amazing kh4 theory I’ve heard. Awesome job here, this was truly crazy to watch
@redshirtdown6043
@redshirtdown6043 5 жыл бұрын
Great theory, it’s most of what I’ve been putting together. The Dandelion leaders (and Nobody quartet) being sent back into the main worldline leads to more questions, chief among them: 1) Why did Ansem Seeker of Darkness want to find Skuld? Did he find out who she really was and wanted her as a vessel? 2) Where is Skuld? She was taken away by Xigbar 3) Did Ansem the Wise order Xigbar to release her, or did he do that on his own? 4) Was that even Xigbar or had Luxu possessed him already by then? If he was Luxu in BBS, did he know Ven was a Dandelion leader? Lots to ponder
@skillz_52
@skillz_52 5 жыл бұрын
Firm belief that Demyx is the Master of Masters. Evidence for this: 1. Demyx is the only character from KH3 to have just "vanished" 2. MoM and Demyx have the same tone/sense of humor. 3. Both wear the cloak to protect them from darkness. 4. Also one of the only KH characters whose past we dont know too much about.
@takeda7750
@takeda7750 5 жыл бұрын
He was working with Vexen about betraying the Real Org. right?
@skillz_52
@skillz_52 5 жыл бұрын
TaKeda, he was but he just literally vanished after the fact. In the ending scenes you never see him returning or what became of him. Also we don’t know where his somebody is and if he will appear. It’s all a theory but it kinda adds up
@Noah-zo6zn
@Noah-zo6zn 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel he is going take take Avas spot as the Vulpes forteller. He is an Ancient Keyblade weilder after all. Xemnas said that 9 -12 have ties to that time period. Idk just my own theory im going on.
@robertmanzella9875
@robertmanzella9875 5 жыл бұрын
Namura said in his recent interview that the MoM is indeed the one in the yazora scene in the cloak. And demyx disaperece makes sence. He could have gone into that world. He may also be able to switch between worlda
@OathOfTheThirteenth
@OathOfTheThirteenth 5 жыл бұрын
I hope the fuck not. That's terrible.
@Sage8211
@Sage8211 5 жыл бұрын
I think you may have nailed it.
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 5 жыл бұрын
You guys will have to excuse some moments in video with abysmal audio cutting. I was stuck recording this until 3am and had to redo my recording almost ten times. The files kept messing up for some reason. By attempt number 8 my patience was practically gone due to the repetitiveness of corrupt files mixed with my body basically pulling itself towards my bed. You guys will still understand what im saying.
@jacabrandasantosnarvaez5433
@jacabrandasantosnarvaez5433 5 жыл бұрын
Great theory. Also i think darkness is vanitas. Because the darkness seems to know about the future and the 7th princess world. I don't think brain knows that.
@c-cupp7
@c-cupp7 5 жыл бұрын
Jacabranda Narvaez Unlikely. I’m going with the theory that Brain is the one who spoke to Maleficent because I don’t think Vantias knows about the Foretellers and the Master of Masters.
@couchgamingnews9379
@couchgamingnews9379 5 жыл бұрын
Yes i do understand dang unreliable computer and programs
@Fl4sh520
@Fl4sh520 5 жыл бұрын
the theory where you say he wants to destroy the keyblade weilders, to me sounds a bit off since it was the Master of masters that gave the foretellers their keyblades and taught them how to shape keyblades out of peoples hearts. if he wanted to take over. he wouldn't have created the position of Fortellers and showed them how to make keyblades in the first place.
@Fl4sh520
@Fl4sh520 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacabrandasantosnarvaez5433 this would make great sense that it would be Vanitas. for example, When they defeated Vanitas in KH3 and sora asked him why chose darkness, Vanitas said, "i am Darkness". Maybe nomura decided to give us hints and also im sure that Vanitas will pop up again in the next Installments.
@khismything12
@khismything12 5 жыл бұрын
The only problem I see with this is why luxu would be stupid enough to give his keyblade to the virus. Even though he knows the virus exists. I’m sure he’d make sure the person who gets the keyblade wont mess things up. That’s why I think he gave it to ephemera who then trained xehanort and eraqus. This then leads to ephemera helping sora in the keyblade graveyard because he felt responsible for xehanort and wanted to atone.
@Nicechibi123
@Nicechibi123 5 жыл бұрын
He prob knows theres a virus, but doesnt know who it is.
@LuckiSir
@LuckiSir 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nicechibi123 Indeed, he actually could've thought since Brain was usually alone that meant he would be susceptible to manipulation, not being affected entirely by the other kind-hearted Union Leaders. Unknowingly giving No Name to the *_Virus_* that would set up the events to come. Sure he pretty much played a part in awakening Kingdom Hearts and bringing back the Foretellers & possibly the MoM, but he also brought back some of the strongest keyblade wielders in that time. Sora for example
@narutoKHfan1
@narutoKHfan1 5 жыл бұрын
This is so good! I’m so excited for KH3 FM and KH4 and whatever game in between. KH is far from over!
@MrBurns-fq2xf
@MrBurns-fq2xf 5 жыл бұрын
If you buy a fm version of this hollow game you are doing all of us a disservice
@Ororo84
@Ororo84 5 жыл бұрын
Just one thing.why would Xehanort want to find everyone who had connection with Khux? Ventus, Marluxia, Larxene..
@hybridhd7436
@hybridhd7436 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the Master of Masters is pulling the strings of everything from the shadows. The way he talks and does stuff isn't exactly sinister but he is very deceptive. I can see Sora having an extremely hard time with the Master of Masters because of this.
@robTCGZ
@robTCGZ 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your ideas; they're very solid, not overly crazy, and consistent with what we've been presented so far. It all Makes sense
@steffie_619
@steffie_619 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope this idea is true !!!! Great work putting it together
@desthstride587
@desthstride587 5 жыл бұрын
Wha...? I... I can't argue with anything. What the hell, all of this makes sense. I don't know what's more amazing, that you put all this together or that Nomura put enough in his games that you could put it together. Although, at the same time, I feel like Darkness could be Luxu, actually, since he and Maleficent seem to be acquainted in KH3 without any real explanation how.
@nicholasmack1000
@nicholasmack1000 5 жыл бұрын
I just had a crazy idea, what if Brain is the Master of Masters, and the world is stuck in a time loop, and he tears out the the fact that there is a traitor from the book of prophecies. Then in an effort to avoid it, he passes out copies of the book, void of the traitor, then gives it to one person. All while hiding the fact that he is the traitor, so that he can have a chance to escape the time loop, and this particular time he succeeded in escaping it, and that was his plan all along. Leaving his past self new ground to work with. or am I just thinking to much.
@gabrielbenton2775
@gabrielbenton2775 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best kh4 theory I've heard about
@arnistle
@arnistle 5 жыл бұрын
Dang, that was impressive! Great job, I need more KH theories like this to keep me occupied between games!
@jamiecranton
@jamiecranton 5 жыл бұрын
I believe luxu is brain, all the way through KH we've had peoples faces/eyes covered when they are hiding something, Brian's sprite his eyes are covered up until this moment when he reveals his plan he seems fixated on destiny so I believe he is luxu and he's making sure the end happens
@BBoiiLite
@BBoiiLite 5 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing, detailed and thorough subscribed. I didn’t like KH3 that much but this video definitely helped keep me more invested. Because it’s the story that keeps these games alive for so long. Thanks man.
@alexandermanjarres2056
@alexandermanjarres2056 5 жыл бұрын
This might be the the best kh4 theory video I've seen. It all fits very nicely. Good job my guy
@professorbean5791
@professorbean5791 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of this makes sense. My only issue with this theory is that The Master of Maters is essentially the reason everyone had keyblades in the first place, as he apparently "Constructed the foretellers' Keyblades from their hearts." Might just be another layer to the bigger plan though.
@LucasLima-zs9tm
@LucasLima-zs9tm 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is the best theory that I've heard for the future of the series. Congrats
@drey7459
@drey7459 5 жыл бұрын
This would be so accurate consindering how many times (in BBS secret ending, in the chess games with Xehanort) Eraqus seems like he could change the seemingly inescapable fate of the world. Him being Brains descendant would actually fit sooo good
@xXKuromimiChanxX
@xXKuromimiChanxX 5 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly hoping that Skuld does become Subject X. I'd love to see her Isa and Lea interact in a future game if possible ;w; And I'm hoping they find a way to save her if it's not already too late, so her Roxas and Xion can meet and become part of their besties squad
@TimmyTurnupTV
@TimmyTurnupTV 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking. Great theory by the way. Brain is always breaking the system just like Eraqus does. And in the Ultimania it says Eraqus derived from a Dandelion. Poor Strelitzia tho but maybe Brain, Larium, or Sora will come to her rescue and it was part of Brains master plan. I mean come on his NAME IS BRAIN. He probably thought all this out.
@blighttale5550
@blighttale5550 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope this theory will truly happen in kh4. That would be awesome. Now I am subbing to your channel.
@nickschmelzer9905
@nickschmelzer9905 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome theory! Definitely sharing this with my KH friends! You supplied a lot of structure to the theory and I really enjoyed it
@serenityssolace
@serenityssolace 5 жыл бұрын
If the MoM genocided all keyblade wielders, then that's what I call an epic villain. Do we know who the mysterious figure that helped Maleficent escape from the datascape is? He might be connected to Brain and the virus plan. Never mind, didn't see the whole video before writing this comment. Great theory!
@the7anime7angel7
@the7anime7angel7 5 жыл бұрын
It could vanitas after all he calls him self darkness..
@VinVaris
@VinVaris 5 жыл бұрын
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@Jahof20s
@Jahof20s 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think the Foretellers will make of Sora when they all meet him. My theory is that while Sora is getting close to finding a way to reclaim his life in and return to the realm of light, up to the final stretch of his trials, Briag is trying to have Sora taken out from behind the scenes while trying to keep the other foretellers oblivious to Sora's existence, feeling that a premature meeting with the young keyblade wielder would risk wrecking the MoM's plans. But, those plans, of course, fails, ultimately leading to the first meeting of the foretellers and Sora, Riku and Kairi. Your thoughts so far?
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Holland interesting but how would Sora meeting the old masters wreck the masters plan
@Jahof20s
@Jahof20s 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoirLilbomber 1. It would allow the good guys to learn of a more significant threat on the horizon ''too early''. 2. Sora, like hearts, is unpredictable. Braig once noted his talent for screwing with evildoers' well-placed plans, even when made somehow a part of them. I am saying when it comes to Sora, it seems like anything is possible, even if Sora and co would likely be too weak to face them properly at their first meeting. Then again, who's to say he won't find that amusing either way.
@FinalEther
@FinalEther 5 жыл бұрын
MoM will probably tell them they have to defeat Sora and they cannot change fate... That group is dumb enough to believe him.
@Jahof20s
@Jahof20s 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoirLilbomber you still with me, noir?
@cliffmartindale200
@cliffmartindale200 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah probably why he has the key blade hanging up so he could do stuff with out the master master see what he was up to
@connorhickey2666
@connorhickey2666 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a feeling that M.OM is connected with riku Idk its just that rikus way to dawn had any eye on it maybe their related in someway
@Calruxio
@Calruxio 5 жыл бұрын
The only problem is the fact that we have what's considered to be Strelitzia's nobody on the title screen of union cross. The theory has strelitzia's soul in the final world, but if we have the artwork of this "Strelitzia Nobody" the chances are pretty high that she'll come into play. Now if her role only resides within the game of union cross and then moves onto the Final World, then this theory could make sense. That's the only real problem I can see in this theory, other than that good ideas all around.
@chrisSkordPiano
@chrisSkordPiano 5 жыл бұрын
Man nomura is just looking at all these theories and comments and he will just fool us all man this is how they create games now with theories from fans
@jacobkuhl5779
@jacobkuhl5779 5 жыл бұрын
hes sitting behind the screen laughing rn
@zacharyfischl2037
@zacharyfischl2037 5 жыл бұрын
Odd reason why, but in the Tram Command scene where Xigbar (Luxu) approaches Xemnas and Ansem in Twilight Town; Ansem says "If he wavers from the path we lay we destroy him" Xigbar responds and says "but in that case we'll have to find ourselves another vessel" and has a very brief but obvious grin after he says this. As if he's ok with Sora (the supposed virus) being destroyed.
@InktheImpassive
@InktheImpassive 5 жыл бұрын
About the Nobodies Demyx, Luxord, Larxene(Elrena), and Marluxia(Lauriam) got recompleted right? Becoming humans again and Larxene's secret After beating them then... We still don't know who Demyx and Luxord's Somebodies though
@piefort99
@piefort99 5 жыл бұрын
this is the most thought out and calculated theory ive great in a while great job dude
@NoteOwl
@NoteOwl 5 жыл бұрын
I'm finding it hard to believe that the MoM wouldn't be able to predict/anticipate anything that didn't come AFTER KH3 and the final page of the Book. Exciting and thought out theory nonetheless!
@PGOuma
@PGOuma 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna cry if this is true!! IT MAKES SENSE!!!
@CheesyDale
@CheesyDale 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like something that Nomura would do, and it actually make sense how Maleficent is back in kh2 despite of dying on the first game
@TylerAngelle
@TylerAngelle 5 жыл бұрын
this just blew my mind
@TaliesinMyrddin
@TaliesinMyrddin 5 жыл бұрын
I really gotta catch up on Union X. That update that lets you skip non-cutscene story quests was a bit too late..
@MerriBelle
@MerriBelle 5 жыл бұрын
I had been thinking along the same lines of you theory. :D glad someone else has the same thoughts and is talking about the idea.
@chicotrueno8960
@chicotrueno8960 5 жыл бұрын
i think Ephemer is in Sora's heart, Ienzo tell to him that he had 3 hearts, one is obviously Roxas, the other has been with him for nearly as long (Ventus), and the third has been resided for even longer (Ephemer), that would make sense of how did they talk in the Keyblade Graveyard. I also think it's the reason why Ventus finds Sora's heart cause in his resides his old friend.
@Taislinmaosdela
@Taislinmaosdela 5 жыл бұрын
I think the only thing we can't speculate about yet is MoM's end goal. He may want something simple like ruling over everyone, but he might be more complex, and his joker-like personality points to that. Also, the Foretellers might just be in for the ride as puppets, as in KH back cover, or they might know something, particularly Ava, and act against MoM or with him, depending on if he reveals his end goal or not. Very interesting. Also, where do Demyx and Luxord come into all of this?? I think they might appear in union cross yet, and would also be part of the people who got sent to different timelines back when Brain did his trickamabobber.
@yoboyhomie
@yoboyhomie 5 жыл бұрын
You did a great job with this theory, honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns out to be true, I mean all of the facts are there the only variables that could change is whether the heart sora spoke to was strelitzia or skuld, I can’t really see anything else to be any less than what you’ve said it to be, and it would make sense for Brian to be the virus and to be the founder of scala ad caelum and set the future in motion for sora’s arrival into the timeline. God I just want KH 4 already
@DavidJonathanMello
@DavidJonathanMello 5 жыл бұрын
Brain and Eraqus were the only ppl I know in the series who were willing to kill someone innocent to save the world..
@khyronbrashadstreet
@khyronbrashadstreet 5 жыл бұрын
You are a genius.
@snikerz5886
@snikerz5886 5 жыл бұрын
huh.... for some reason the idea that Yazora might actually be the master of masters popped into my head in the end. I mean the name Verum Rex even means True King in latin.
@lostShadowLord
@lostShadowLord 5 жыл бұрын
theory, strelizia wasn't actually 'killed' she was removed from the world line, however the process damaged her heart, hence why it or a part of it is in the final world (maybe?, it could of been Ava or Skuld maybe), and what we seen in the system trying to justify her disappearance, and the system is starting to crash and shut down. this could be used to explain why the Dandelions appearing at different times. Crazy add onto this theory, one of Sora's parents were a dandelion, possible the male player character or more unlikely Strelizia, herself. but that would make COM even more messed up.
@LexxamanYT
@LexxamanYT 5 жыл бұрын
AMAZING video. Agreed with everything!!! You gained one more sub!
@BonezGam1ng
@BonezGam1ng 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they could go back to the original world line, find out that daybreak town is in ruin and then it gets transformed to Scala ad Caelum somehow by someone hence why daybreak town is in thin underwater. But if that’s the case I wonder who Luxu gave his keyblade to...maybe someone else and then brain ends up being darkness and becoming a shadow behind the scenes to prevent destruction confusing on? Like how in Naruto you have a good guy being the face and then have someone in the shadows doing the dirty work. (Posted this before watching it all due to speculating before hand haha my bad)
@masterofmastersmaster2991
@masterofmastersmaster2991 5 жыл бұрын
Great theory, only thing I would oppose is who inherited Luxu’s No Name Keyblade. I personally believe it to be Ephemer, especially because Brain wasn’t meant to be a union leader and why give the gazing eye to someone who was meant to be insignificant. Ephemer though seems to have a large role in these destined events and having the gazing eye with him would greatly benefit the Master of Masters. All in all great work man, I look forward to your future content!
@TerraRose21
@TerraRose21 5 жыл бұрын
"You may travel back to a past in which a version of you had existed. This requires your body and heart to have once been split." This just hit me hard. What if VENTUS can travel back in time to the first Keyblade War? This actually leads credence to Ventus being the anomaly...
@robitussinbrohan718
@robitussinbrohan718 5 жыл бұрын
Love this theory. I hope it’s true. Sora needs to be the chosen character again. I don’t like how sora is just of many. And what makes him special is his heart. He always had those qualities. He needs to be more important than he already is.
@inkbanditt501
@inkbanditt501 5 жыл бұрын
I think I have a new favorite theory!
@whaduhfuq9779
@whaduhfuq9779 5 жыл бұрын
I believe this is going to be one of those videos that does well then fuckin BLOWS up years later due to it being correct and revealed in whatever game we would have gotten that year. (Kh4 or whatever next titled is named)
@jaydeny4124
@jaydeny4124 5 жыл бұрын
Many parts of your theory seem to hold. But please allow me to offer my opinion on why I don’t think Luxu passed NoName to brain. Luxu knew Brain was the virus in the secret report, so if he had passed the key to Brain his choice of word in the secret report would’ve been different. He would be more regretful, and would fear that his action might have exacerbated the virus’s plan. Also, one of Luxu’s task was to keep vigil of the key, which would be hard to do if he had passed it to the virus. I think he passed the key to Ephemer, and Ephemer is the only union leader to not cross worldline. Ephemer will then rebuild scala, pass on NoName, and eventually have a blue blood descendant named Eraqus.
@amandasinks5425
@amandasinks5425 5 жыл бұрын
I like this theory, it's neat. Good job, sir!
@EvyDevy
@EvyDevy 5 жыл бұрын
MoM was the one who gave the other masters keyblades in the first place so I don't think he'd do the keyblade war to get rid of all the keyblade wielders. I also highly don't think Brain and the "darkness" are the same being. Luxu goes on about the "virus" who is brain then a "darkness" in a separate report. Saying the darkness will cause trouble for those in the worldline where the keyblade war didn't happen. In fact, Luxu says Maleficent helped the Virus (Brain) how to time travel through time where it seems the darkness is what taught Maleficent how to do it. It would also seem weird if Brain had 2 nicknames. My theory is Brain is from the future but that's a guess. (And there's no way Ventus was sent to the time before Soras birth since that would make Ventus like 20 years old in BBS and look significantly younger.)
@mohamadal_mansorei9716
@mohamadal_mansorei9716 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best theory I have ever heard
@joshz2491
@joshz2491 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying for ages that several present day characters are descendants of the UX characters.. I think Kairi and Riku are also descendants though I don’t know for sure
@denisfresco3194
@denisfresco3194 5 жыл бұрын
Best bet for Rikus ancestor would be Ephemer because they share the same hair color and Ephemer probably sacrificed himself and Riku was about to do the same for Sora
@kaidos123
@kaidos123 5 жыл бұрын
i just thought the master of masters had a part of him in the black box. So he vanished, because he time traveled to the current day. somehow able to connect to the part of him in the black box, once opened. or something like that.
@TheStrangr
@TheStrangr 5 жыл бұрын
When I started this video, I was gonna say "Brain is too obvious to be the impostor, the finger's been pointed at him since he was introduced, that's not KH style" but you actually made a lot of solid points... Still don't like thinking he murdered my innocent stalker girl T~T
@deathmastersful
@deathmastersful 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen the full video, but I already like the theory. Though I think he is thinking too simple. I mean this is Kingdom Hearts. A theory I have is that there is a kinda of one original being, the first being, that was created right after or during the creation of light. A perfectly balanced being that wielded the Xblade yata yata. He then separated him self feeling lonely nearly killing himself, one darkness one light, they decided to compete and scheme yata yata. Master of master the light of the first being. Darkness creating heartless. War insighted, two pure beings of light and dark competing in “chess”. You get the point. It makes sense and is kinda hinted at a lot in KH3. I mean, planning ahead, being a few moves ahead, secret plots and schemes, it sounds like a complex game of chess where pieces are taken, returned, rearranged and so on. It would explain why Luxu didn’t realize malifecent was looking for his chest cause the master of master’s wouldn’t see it cause his opponent hid it from him while distracting him with a large play of sorts. It’s just a complex theory that I think fits better
@xCCflierx
@xCCflierx 5 жыл бұрын
Brain would have been best because he didnt just read the book, he was studying it. He can see the parts that were meant to be seen through the MoM's keyblade, and work behind his eyes, in his blindspot. However, the MoM would end up seeing the end result of the second keyblade war anyway, and already know whats happening. If fate is set in stone to only have one keyblade wielder after the second keyblade war, than the master of masters should know. He would see sora save them through Xehanort. I think they would have had to change something else. Though he would see sora save them, he might not know about the power of waking itself. Brain through Eraqus and Ventus, would raise Sora, and passes down the power of waking to Yensid, someone who i dont think was ever seen personally by the MoM, nor his keyblade. Yensid is the only person able to approve a keyblade warrior's mark of mastery, which might be a right passed down to him directly from Brain to control the new keyblade warriors. Also, Yensid might be Brain's true decedent, being able to control Eraqus at will without being put within the MoM's eyes, as he is almost always in his tower.
@guidofalconi1178
@guidofalconi1178 5 жыл бұрын
So honestly this is incredibly convoluted, but that’s not your fault, Kingdom Hearts just ha as convoluted storyline. I think you dod a good job at analyzing what data we have and putting it into context. Unfortunately Nomura has no idea how to tell a story that doesn’t need 1000 other stories to make it make sense so he’ll probably find an even more convoluted way to do what you so neatly did.
@chaellExE
@chaellExE 5 жыл бұрын
There is what looks like a whole village underwater. There is even a broken mill and houses ish building
@D-D-Dexter
@D-D-Dexter 5 жыл бұрын
I have a theory about 'Darkness', I believe they are the player character in Chi/Union X, as the dark chirithy told them that they were once their player, perhaps Brains tampering with the datascape will bring the player out of their coma thing and the trauma of nearly dying in the keyblade war will turn them into the darkness, creating dark chirithy in the process who will probably use time travel shenanigans to go back and corrupt the keyblade wielders to ensure events happened as they did and the player becomes the darkness. I'm sure somebody with better knowledge of Chi/Union X will disprove this easily with something that I've missed
@Tempo75860
@Tempo75860 5 жыл бұрын
I Really Hope Kairi Becomes A Playable Character In The Next Kingdom Hearts Game.
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 5 жыл бұрын
We all want her to be playable...well except for her haters
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE 5 жыл бұрын
Same. Along with some sort of arc where she PROVES she isn’t useless.
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 5 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE Maybe have Skuld be Kairi's party member.
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoirLilbomber Her haters are an annoying minority. Hopefully the side game Nomura's cooking up is about her and her going on an adventure to be more experienced and become strong enough to help Riku find Sora. Because Riku's a master and has the power of waking, Yen Sid sends him to where Sora is, and Aqua decides to be Kairi's teacher.
@Impulse1497
@Impulse1497 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoirLilbomber For me, the importance for her is a massive and i mean a massive character grown after the ending. And Question for you and it relate to the ending: Is Kairi back to the world of light or still in the Final World? Cause in the interview from Nomura, he explains how Naime came back to the world of light and were able to see her in the ending of KH3. I feel like she is still in the Final world since the whole gang from the ending werent looking at the tree where Sora and Kairi were sitting but instead in the ocean. IDK this is the one part i am mostly confused. Would like to hear other opinion as well. Or what the community of KH fan had agree on
@hbkmzk
@hbkmzk 5 жыл бұрын
This is very informative. I learned a lot. I didn't know that Luxu handed down his keyblade. However, I don't agree that he gave it to brain. Instead, I think he gave it to ven (Why do you always have to glare at me like that?). I also think that darkness who spoke to Maleficent is Vanitas. IIRC, in KH3, Vanitas did refer to himself as darkness. Your theory does make a lot of sense but I'm really biased in believing Ven is the impostor
@6Kubik
@6Kubik 5 жыл бұрын
i really need a new smartphone to play union cross....
@raunjisto2925
@raunjisto2925 5 жыл бұрын
I do like the idea of Brain being a kind of anti-hero in the franchise. Killing Strelitzia and doing highly questionable things for the sake of changing fate and freeing people. If that’s how it is then Brain could be a very unique character in KH.
@theduffinman
@theduffinman 5 жыл бұрын
in another video I saw they pointed out that at the end of KH3 after you beatr it theres a new loading screen showing the new board game. it has 8 lights. sora being one and the other 7 are stars just light the union leaders
@jacobkuhl5779
@jacobkuhl5779 5 жыл бұрын
where is this video tho
@gseric4721
@gseric4721 5 жыл бұрын
I think Brain is behind it, but he wouldn't kill someone by his own hand. He manipulates the mind of the weakest, Ventus, similar to the way Strelitzia's mind was manipulated in compliance to the MoM's plan, thus his name 'Brain'.
@ish58
@ish58 5 жыл бұрын
This convoluted af but you might be on to something with the union x characters being sent to different periods of time.
@maxorigmvs5451
@maxorigmvs5451 5 жыл бұрын
I want Vanitas to be Darkness.
@CarlosJimenez-tp3wr
@CarlosJimenez-tp3wr 5 жыл бұрын
He already IS DARKNESS...
@NapoleChan
@NapoleChan 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I enjoyed the video, it was sitting at 799 likes, and it would have stressed me out to have left it like that, but a nice even 800 I can deal with.
@zzantino776
@zzantino776 5 жыл бұрын
This intro is so paint + windows movie maker, i love it
@nicholasjohnson8191
@nicholasjohnson8191 5 жыл бұрын
I think MoM is definitely aware of Brain as is Luxu and I don't think luxu gave him no name. I also believe Brain and Maleficent might be working together which would explain why she randomly knows so much all the time and is always int he loop despite not even being relevant in kh3. On another note, they keep using Kingdom hearts as a power source in every game so I'm hoping we find out that Kingdom Hearts is actually a sentient being in itself and is alive somehoe
@brianroca33
@brianroca33 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone makes a good theory !!!
@CoreyAspril
@CoreyAspril 5 жыл бұрын
I would be whole heartedly for this as the story. Very deep and dark. Would also like to see how LUXU became braig/xigbar and his journey for more back story and character build. Maybe even another movie like backcover to explain the new union leaders story. Thoughts?
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 5 жыл бұрын
I think a movie for something like that would be a good idea
@sinpaisama9145
@sinpaisama9145 5 жыл бұрын
The secret reports say sora has 3 hearts inside him, one of which is unknown so far. I’m almost positive that’s where Ephemer is and how he was able to help sora. It’s also going to end up being how sora was able to become a keyblade wildest
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 5 жыл бұрын
The third was Xion’s. Her heart left Sora and went to her once she made contact with Sora at the Keyblade Graveyard
@sinpaisama9145
@sinpaisama9145 5 жыл бұрын
Noir Lilbomber Has that been confirmed? Cause I haven’t seen anything about it lol
@sinpaisama9145
@sinpaisama9145 5 жыл бұрын
Noir Lilbomber I mean it hasn’t even been explained why she looks so much like Kairi
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Jackson yeah that was like just recently confirmed
@NoirLilbomber
@NoirLilbomber 5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Jackson yeah it has, Xion looks like Kairi first off because her existence as a person was initially unstable so you know people saw her differently. However her true form since her existence is mainly based off Soras memories of Kairi which are his most precious, her true form is Kairi as Sora remembers her, the reason for the black hair is because of the fact that Sora didn’t have a full grasp of his memories while asleep thanks to Naminé, Namine explains that in 358 when she talks to Xion
@juanmanuelhornos869
@juanmanuelhornos869 5 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaaaamn i really really wish you're right. This would make an amazing story.
@eugenioasanchezperez1406
@eugenioasanchezperez1406 2 жыл бұрын
The Foretellers dont seem like the antagonist. The chess pieces might look like so but theres probably a bigger plan underneath it all, and for the moment should be taken as a grain of salt because Nomura likes to play with the viewers mind. I bet a thousand bucks that theres a new antagonist been written and is not the Master.
@AzureKite191
@AzureKite191 5 жыл бұрын
So Ventus is actually older than Master Erquas, and Xehanort?
@LuckiSir
@LuckiSir 5 жыл бұрын
Yep from a lore standpoint, he lived an entirely different life years ago before being sent to the future and forgot everything. But if your asking physically, he's like 15-16 and Eraqus is probably like 50-60
@AzureKite191
@AzureKite191 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuckiSir Was Ven born before Eraqus?
@LuckiSir
@LuckiSir 5 жыл бұрын
@@AzureKite191 Yep
@AzureKite191
@AzureKite191 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuckiSir OKAY THEN!!!!! That means Ven is older than 99% of the people in the Kingdom Hearts games.
@alk3476
@alk3476 5 жыл бұрын
Very good theory nice job!
@MrWalsh707
@MrWalsh707 5 жыл бұрын
I came up with kinda the same thing. Except that Brains plan is already done by the end of KH3 His plan was to stop the world from being enveloped by darkness as stated in the book of prophecies. That was done when Sore used his powers to give everyone a second chance when fighting the heartless tornado. After everything was done Luxu/Xigbag states that his role is done, and from that it makes me think that we are now past any event recorded in the book. I do still believe that Sora is the one ment to stop the Master and Fortellers. Either way it all sounds like good theories to me, so wither way I'm all for it.
@LuckiSir
@LuckiSir 5 жыл бұрын
And since Eraqus has passed on with Xehanort were now heading into the unknown. No more foretold events, this is it. The present will BE.
@LuckiSir
@LuckiSir 5 жыл бұрын
I'm having like a *_BRAIN_* explosion, and its making too much sense
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