My first and last load of onions. Boy did the receiver make me angry!

[@Streamer687]

Retired Canadian Trucker here, same scam was ONCE laid upon me, and I refused to pay the buggers, telling em, "Its your product, you ordered it, just sign this "Refused Delivery" area on the Delivery invoice, and I'll sell the WHOLE LOAD to another company for CASH.(Its Legal when a customer refuses to accept the load) Been there, done that. After that, I made it CLEAR that I dont pay for my truck to be loaded or unloaded to anyone that I worked for. BTW, they dropped all the 'Arrival Fee's(just this once they told me).. I never went back, and warned everyone about the rip off.

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@Streamer687 thanks for watching

[@jeremyhurd3500]

Scammers suck treating a trucker like that never heard of that

[@LoganJohnson-lm2bh]

That happened to me once .I was warned ahead of time .the craped when i opened the doors and used my own Pallet jack and unloaded the truck myself .took a picture and left the whole time they were yelling you cant do that .another time i said ok and pulled away from the dock closed my doors and when they tried to stop me by closing the gate i drove right thru it and called the cops claiming they tried to hijack the load and kidnap me .

[@jmarino715]

You should start charging a "pick up" fee - tell them it's to "cover your insurance" 🤣

[@miguelmendez3694]

$50 dollars to unload. I've paid between $200 up to $600 dollars to have the stuff unloaded & Sorted at McLane, Sysco foods, Shoprite, Jewel, Walmart, Target, Kroger, They all charge you to unload there products that they have ordered for there Warehouse. It's a scam!

[@vega1975]

I have been there none that Stop & Shop . US food ( Norwich CT ) is the worst I will not go there counts are all ways short. I write on there packing slip shipper load and count spell it right out and make the shipper sign it. No drivers on dock !

[@jesusnameaboveallnames6048]

Right, lumpers is total craziness. One reason to never pull refer again among others

[@jimgarofalo5479]

I have hauled a lot of groceries in my 20 years of trucking. There are ways to get around these fees. I delivered to a warehouse in central New Jersey one time. Big sign said "this is a driver unload warehouse." So, I went to my door, put up the dock plate, and got a power jack, and I waited. And I waited. And I waited some more. In the meantime, I was getting near the end of my legal hours. There was no place on the dock for anybody's product. Other drivers told me that sometimes they didn't clear the dock until as late as midnight. It was already 6PM, and I had just enough time left to unload and get back to my terminal. So, I called dispatch and told them the problem. I also told them that I would not run over hours to return home that evening, should it take until midnight to get unloaded. Dispatch told me to leave, and come back to the terminal. They can call for re-delivery if they want their freight. So, I went to the receiving office. I told them I needed my paperwork. They asked me why. I told them I was leaving, and that I would have to come back when they were actually ready to receive. I was told I had to see the dock foreman. He would meet me at my door. So, I went to my door. A guy comes up on an electric scooter, and asks what the problem is. I pointed to the dock and I told him there was no place to unload and that I was running out of hours, and I had to leave. He asked me if I would give him 20 minutes. I reluctantly agreed. You never saw a dock get cleared as fast as that one was! 3 guys showed up with power jacks, double length, and my trailer was empty in 12 minutes flat. The trick? If your bill of lading says "prepaid," it means that the product has already been bought and paid for and belongs to the warehouse. Push their buttons, and they will unload it - and at no cost to the driver. All you have to do is get ready to leave and announce your intentions.

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@jimgarofalo5479 thanks for watching

[@SonnyPruitt-q1s]

I got out of trucking in 2003 after 22 years and it looks like it hasn't changed a bit.

[@barryminor6245]

Got out in 2007. It hasn't changed and never will. One reason is the drivers don't have any unity, won't sacrifice for the greater good of the whole and the shippers, broker's and receivers know this and have been laughing at truckers idle threats ever since deregulation kicked in in 1980. I miss driving, traveling yet, so grateful I'm not experiencing the distinction that's hasn't changed since I started in 1984 and still happening.

[@WISHBONEL7]

Good move

[@WISHBONEL7]

​@@barryminor6245 Good move

[@terrybork719]

Take it to a bad part of town and get it unloaded in 15 minutes for free

[@angelodominick3752]

Lumber fees are 100 % bs. Your 100 % correct on you points. Crazy pulling onions on a open deck. See it all the time. We don't do it.

[@frostmournehungerz]

Agreed. I try to avoid lumper fees like the plague. It is a huge waste of time. it slows everything down and it makes no sense. Not only that, if there's a fee why can't it be taken care of ahead of time by the higher ups in the company? Instead they stop everything and make the driver figure out a com check or whatever. Very frustrating.

[@garymckee9538]

Yes sir. Totally agree with you. 37 yrs at this and always tried to stay clear of the Food Industry.......the carrier I had my truck leased on with for 3 yrs recently lost a major contract with an Ag Machinery Manufacturer. In the last 3 months have dealt with this Food Industry BS. Appts , Grocery Warehouse s and Lumpers. Hence now my Truck doesn't work for that carrier anymore. Plenty of work out there without that crap

[@mikegleeson349]

My father was a liquidator. He was running empty coming back to Florida from North Georgia. He had a 1 ton Ford Supervan and a 25' enclosed trailer. He loaded fresh Valdalia onions in both the truchk and the trailer, then he went to a motel for the night to get a fresh start in the morning. Well the next morning my Dad walked up to his van and he noticed all the condensation inside the windows! EVERYTHING inside the truck & the trailer was soaked, plus you couldn't sit inside the truck to drive it, what a mess! he NEVER did that again!

[@jim4448]

When they start talking about you paying for insurance.. Somebody blowing smoke up your butt.😅😅😂😂

[@PopPopJoe]

I like what Retired Canadian Trucker did! Great idea, someone would surlily buy the load!!

[@screwplanplaybook7121]

been going on for years and years the lumper fee in the trucking industry while hauling food. Thank you for the video.

[@glennsmith1040]

Hey Big Ed I'm with you on this. First time i encountered this lumper BS, I wasn't hauling my trailer. So I smiled, unhooked and bobtailed out. They stopped me and said I needed to wait. The response was ha, ha, you keep the trailer and stuff your lumper fee. Bye, bye.

[@shortconcert]

You know what they say, when life gives you onions, make lemonade.

[@FINfinFINfinFINfin]

I would have charged them $100 to access my trailer to unload.

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

Friend of mine brought a load back like that on more than one occasion it was the farms trailer so he swung in dropped it and left.

[@stevejoramo8013]

I have seen a company in Wisconsin charge $100.00 to unload a flatbed load of onions because it was a safety issue. These issues need to be handled before the load gets loaded. Most of the time, the shipper sells the load on consignment, and still owns the product until sold. So the shipper should cover the cost of the unloading.

[@MrRld1960]

I know that it's been going on for over 40 years. Years ago the driver didn't get reimbursed for the fee or drivers had to unload the freight themselves.

[@ronnieterry4916]

Trucking deals with many scams. Most dry van loads of grocery products have to deal with lumper fees. I agree with everything you are saying. It's very time consuming dealing with getting the com check numbers or whatever numbers to pay the com check. The thing about taking it back it's a long way back to California. Waiting on paper work is another thing. How long does it take to count forty pallets?

[@jamesmartin3895]

they usually break the pallets down and then count them,so a 24 pallets turns into 50 pallets and then they count

[@mikevetter271]

Been that way 40 years you get your money back the load pays good to get to your next load welcome to trucking

[@porkrind3512]

Been there done that. He he he I've hauled onions before ... once. Ha ha ha happens at a lot of places. Produce distributors, too. Oddly enough, when I left trucking to go to college, I worked at a gocery warehouse .... as a lumper.

[@stevewintermute195]

I worked for an onion grower/broker in Southeast Colorado…..we never loaded flatbeds….always vented dry vans or reefers….most all had hauled loads into Denver area and could not get a paying load out of there to get home….so they would call us….more often then not we had loads to get them home or very close to it….never heard our repeaters mention paying lumper fees

[@joevelonza8192]

LOL! 50bucks? You got off easy! 😂😂

[@jimgordon2399]

I think you need a flat bed dump trailer!😂

[@KurtKoster-s6t]

Welcome to the world of grocery warehouse,I agree

[@jmarino715]

$50 is actually a very low fee to hire a lumper. I was paying like $150+ to some places, and that was back in 1999. I remember delivering to NYC one time and they wanted me to pay $350 to unload. Needless to say: I wound up unloading that one myself. But yeah - charging a lumping fee for their own damn product is ludacris! Might even be illegal. Should be, no doubt.

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@jmarino715 I would agree my problem is it wasn’t a lumper. This was an employee of the company that I was delivering to. Also im a flat bed. I have never had to pay to have a flat bed unloaded ever.

[@jmarino715]

@@BigEdandThePups Maybe you didn't read the last part of my comment. I totally agree - what they did to you is absolute BS

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@jmarino715lol I forgot to hit the more button

[@philhammond5908]

Sad that you don’t want to work beyond sitting in a seat ! Drivers getting lazier every day !!

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@philhammond5908 that why I drive flat bed because I’m lazy!

[@crazygamingfab9338]

in that case I would be like aright I'll just leave then lol, if you want it unload it.

[@bigcharliesmodelgarage296]

Took 3 crates of carrots to a Walmart distribution center they wanted $75 to unload them,l blew a gasket in the office, surprised they didn't throw me out. I refused to pay. Was struggling to get pallet out of truck and Walmart employee on a tow motor came over and unloaded them. Found out he got paid buy the hour.

[@robertbradford7892]

That's a lot of onion and tomato sandwiches...😅 For sure racket!

[@SkeetVKK]

Holy fuck, I thought Bam Margera was hauling onions for a second! LOL

[@billping2633]

I remember it having something to do with unions. So I looked it up and sure enough I am right. The reason they still have them is the laws would need to be changed to get rid of lumper fees. Good luck with that happening. No way a union will let you take money out of their pockets.

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@billping2633 was not a lumper. Was not a union shop. I’m sure it’s for their pizza fund.

[@spacecoastgambler8372]

Thats so crazy 😮 i drive flatbed as well and have never seen a lumper fee on a flatbed

[@MarshallMcCrory]

😊😊😊😊...... @spacecoastgambler8372 This guy was lucky..... Onions/watermelons bulk freight on a skateboard the rates usually go for 300-600 bucks.....

[@Handfulofhandsomeness]

They got you!

[@joshuahill6153]

I understand a hurry up fee if the driver wants priority for unloading but I don't understand the fees?

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@joshuahill6153 I was the only one there

[@DarianMallard7]

A lot of grocery warehouses make you pay lumper fees. That's why I stopped pulling a reefer because of lumper fees on top of the long sit and wait times to get loaded and unloaded.

[@LisaCabelarow]

Save yourself the lumper fee and buy yourself a pallet jack and unload the truck yourself . Not only will it save the driver a lumper fee but it will also save the driver a gym membership fee because the driver will get plenty of exercise 😂 .

[@ScottLehman-sp4tr]

Charge it to the broker

[@fkennedy02]

Done a reefer load a few years ago starting Portland ending San Diego 12 drops ,all middle of the night drops at kehe and another shit receiver,had to pay every drop lumper fees. Ran tankers soon after that crap.

[@Desertvanlife]

Just double or triple lumber fees in your load bid.......to cover the cost

[@Chevyman02]

I've hauled several loads of onions on flatbed over the years. Yes, I've had to pay to unload the load. Pennsylvania is good for charging to unload. I've also hauled onions into a market in New York City, had to pay $25 just to enter the gate, then had to find the broker that the load went to.

[@jarlesol3865]

They charge you 50 bucks to unload your truck. You should charge them 50 bucks for the time they use to ofload your truck.

[@garyjarvis2730]

Fees to unload a truck are simply graft and corruption on the loading dock left over from the old days when organized crime ran the show. A driver is paid to deliver the load. The receiver should have the manpower and equipment to quickly unload the product - period. Threaten to drop the load on the ground usually gets their attention.

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@garyjarvis2730 I agree what pissed me off the most was it was not a third party worker. He proceeded to tell me it was so they could pay for the insurance necessary to unload trucks. I told him that bullshit and you know it.

[@gregking7926]

If you are an independent contractor, you should charge then $50 more for the delivery, build it into the cost of the delivery. If you could do it..

[@benbogg5430]

I would of told them hell no. You unload it or I'll just take it back to the shipper and get paid for shipments both ways. Have a nice day!

[@SonnyPruitt-q1s]

It DOES come out of your pocket because the broker will deduct that $50 from the rate.

[@kw900lkevin]

Lumbers are the reason I got out of temperature controlled food hauling after 20 years of hauling it

[@alkennedy1124]

50$ dollars, is nothing, that is what I was paying lumpers to unload my truck in the 90 s , I would of though to lumpers would of been 100 dollars, now days, wow still costing thanks , if they gripe to much it be 100 dollar , lol thanks BigAl California

[@elsuzuki04]

Walmart dc's are the same way

[@cornpatchkeepingthefaith4335]

Didn't walmart get in some trouble for using there own people and charging and that's why they quit

[@gregking7926]

Insurance?? Fine are your forklift operators certified to operate those forklifts?? Is that why the charge for "insurance" their operators aren't certified?

[@jackrabbit4383]

I have a black book..it's actually a black list of shippers and brokers and recivers I never go to for a long list of reasons 😅😅😅

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@jackrabbit4383 I have the same

[@jimthiel478]

You have no idea what we went thru years ago with these grocery warehouses and union docks.... My question is wth are you doing out there with no cash ...

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@jimthiel478 wife took it out of my wallet before I left. It happens

[@kendixon6926]

I have given a check left then. Cancelled the check

[@rompinroger9614]

Bank charges $40 to cancel check.

[@markconley996]

So you were told the receiver and the farm was all one company ... so did they charge you to load their own product ???

[@Skullitor]

New subscriber

[@glennschlorf1285]

Did them onions make you cry driver.?

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@glennschlorf1285 thanks for watching

[@MERCENARYREVY]

Put on a dress, a wig, some makeup and some Shorty shorts and a tank. And then and then they'll all flow the US fast as they can just like the DOT never ever pull you in for an inspection if you do that😂. ROFL JUST KIDDING.

[@motorvaderlapstrake7238]

Too bad you didn't have a dump cylinder on that flatbed lol.

[@DAVIDZ-vk4yv]

it was 2 days before christmas years ago. me and other drivers delivered to sysco foods. we backed in went on the dock and we knew sysco had you break it down to large and small pallets. well sysco was 2 hours behind getting us in first thing in the norning. so we had time to talk our bosses were calling MAD cause we should be done or almost done. a lot of bosses from different companies to walk in stand on the dock cause it says NO where on the bill of lading drivers responsible to unload. they came out said we need to get THEIR break down sheet we said NO we ARE 2 hours behind we will NOT break it down. they finally unloaded a lot of us we left. found out from owner operators they will NOT go there and if they do and they HAVE to break it down who ever the shipper or receiver WILL pay the driver $75.00 a hour.

[@dougfox9419]

You can attribute it to the warehouse unions. They don't want to have there overpaid members to have to work .

[@rx1ton]

Pay in pennies or deliver with a dump bed

[@larrymartin9620]

I'm surprised that they didn't charge 350.00

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@larrymartin9620 it want a third party unloading me. It was their company.

[@hikerccter9036]

Poor Annabel

[@kevinsasse4971]

Pay it or else! My cousin unlaoded himself rather than paying the lumper fee, when he got done had two meat hooks in his tires @!!@

[@HeyNiagraFalls]

Never ever do foodstuffs. Never ever do reefer. Did it once - never again. Grocery stores are the worst.

[@Hitman-e4n]

But companies will pay, because they need you to get reloaded. To pad there pockets,

[@georgeesquivel8623]

Hahaha only $50!!!!!,I get charge hundreds of dollars!!!yes I don't pay it shipper does...

[@chrismcmann202]

Put the tarps back on and threaten take it home until thry are paying you to unload

[@StayingBack71]

I tried that early in my career They will call your bluff And let you take it whatever you want. And when I did it,nobody backed me up( Fellow drivers, Broker, buyer etc) The problem with drivers they are all about themselves... And that's why this stuff keeps happening

[@M.E.McCamishJR]

Ed been there and your right its junk

[@michaeltaylor8835]

Its a scam

[@ppn6198]

Lots of face time I still gave thumbs up

[@BigEdandThePups]

Thanks for watching

[@OldNavyAirdale]

Sounds like a total scam to me.

[@blackwisdom7151]

You should've added the unloading in your rate !!! Before you took the load !!! PS welcome to O/O trucking !!!

[@jasongrosser5204]

Only 50 to lump that load thats really cheap i lumped my own load of onions 43 years ago i got 40 good luck

[@mikeemmons2808]

It has bin like that for years ,you must be a green horn

[@Wasupup]

I had a guy at a good warehouse once rented boots to me for $10, electric jack $25 or else they give you a manual jack that not worth shit. It’s a scam

[@Runingwild99]

Okay you've learned your lesson move on.

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@Runingwild99 thanks for watching

[@grapes6]

You've got more problems than paying a lumper fee if you don't have $50 in your pocket and your out on the road. And you'll take a produce load on a flatbed anytime you can get it if you get stuck in South Florida or California and there's no other freight. Especially if you have truck payments to make. You might want to learn about the industry before you complain about the fees. I agree that it is a big inconvenience to a driver, but there are write offs for the companies as business expenses passing the paperwork down the line until it goes back to the beginning. Just remember, if you're going to be picky about the freight you haul, you'll be out of business faster than it took you to get started. Trucks don't get paid for if they're sitting empty.

[@StayingBack71]

It's the principal at hand.... Doesnt matter of its $50 or $500... It's people like you that just go with the flow and pay it, is why this stuff keeps happening.

[@tossedsalad5532]

Tell them you charge them $100.00 for a waisted time. Please pay you the $100.00 first and then you will pay them

[@EarlYoder-zu6th]

Your first problem way you had garbage on a flat bed. Never haul garbage on a flat bed.

[@MISCIFMAKER]

Make oinion soup , feed the homeless

[@Hitman-e4n]

Lumpers are a scam, I was 190.00 to unload two pallets in call, they wouldn’t let me unload

[@Ronald-so8dj]

Would you unload the onions for 50 dollars Mr trucker?

[@BigEdandThePups]

Absolutely

[@opiesveiw266]

Lumper fees are a pure scam

[@TurdFerguson-ez8yq]

Ots a money making scam for their employees. I has one load that it was there product. I didn't have a appointment that was 3 hundred lumber fee was 250 dollars never again. Screw them

[@Kk24254]

Worst scam always stealing from the driver

[@Pittsburgh_Sports_365]

Lumper $50? You got off cheap

[@EJ.Quarry.Dweller]

Thats Bs you should ask what the lumper fee is and if so you pay me before you put the first pallet on. It is their responsibility you are a service . I might as well tell a pizza delivery guy to tip me so they can drop off the pizza What a scam.

[@jesusnameaboveallnames6048]

Sell them to someone else if they refuse to unload

[@sfsfuzzy3597]

Guess these newbies don’t know the unload fees are paid by the broker ‘ Any time I take a load to a grocery warehouse I always make sue they include broker or shipper paid any fees ! Get it in writing in the confirmation sheet

[@dewaynem559]

You did it wrong I never paid lumber fees if they wanted the load unload it or I had other people that would😊

[@donnussel6263]

broker pay for it whats the deal

[@waltmann66]

THATS BULLSH-T!!😎👊🏾💪🏾🌱

[@Hitman-e4n]

In California

[@tobybeach2162]

That's wrong!!

[@KQ4JHQ]

Nope

[@scottinflorida1030]

😡🤬

[@blackwisdom7151]

A driver is never STUCK !!! With a load !!! Your problem is your ( GREEN) as a O/O and you didn't know how to legally handle this situation)!!!

[@BigEdandThePups]

Thank you for your wisdom it was my first day.

[@blackwisdom7151]

@@BigEdandThePups once you agree on rate ! always the 2nd question is who's paying for unloading !!! If a brokers say it's in the rate DON'T TAKE the load !!! A decent broker would say just turn in the receipt with your invoice and you will be reimbursed for it ...!!! Next time if you're not sure just add $300-$400 to your rate and ROLL with it..!!! FYI I've been to cold storages and the unloading prices started at $1000.00

[@BigEdandThePups]

@@blackwisdom7151 I pull a flatbed this is the first time I been told to Pay a fee to unload ever pulling a flat bed. This wasn’t a lumper it was an office persons pizza fund.