Kings: An “American” Absolute Monarchy

[@doublep1980]

Wait, they made a "modern retelling" of the biblical story of David & king Saul, with Ian McShane as the king and I only found out about now?!

[@StickWithTrigger]

It's an absolute underrated banger

[@moderatecanuck]

Yep and it was amazing.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

See what happens when you blow off staff meetings?

[@mahatmarandy5977]

Interestingly, the general audience at the time seemed to think that this was some sort of Ruritanian romance taking place in our own world, but according to the producers themselves, this took place in an alternate timeline. They never explained the whole thing, but what they did say is that history is the same as ours up until the American Civil War. For whatever reason that war didn’t end after four years, but instead went on for generations, with the United States, and then all of North America fragmenting into scores of small countries, republics, principalities, dictatorships, and so on. They said that Shiloh was New York City, which had been completely burned to the ground, and destroyed in one of the countless wars. In the show King Silas says that he chose to rebuild it and rename it as his capital. So I thought that was really interesting, and since this show has been mostly forgotten, I don’t think many people remember that. Assuming many people knew it to begin with. It wasn’t a very popular show.

[@paulferro338]

It was a great show.

[@platoplombo15]

First 'Alien Nation' and now 'Kings'. You are like the Easter Bunny of forgotten turn-of-the-century gems.

[@sardomarcrowe5723]

How did you miss Alien Nation?!

[@limelightraver5690]

“And The King increasingly grew even more jealous and more afraid, because God had rejected him as ruler... and had instead chosen David.” - The Holy Bible, The First Book of Samuel, The Eighteenth Chapter, The Twelfth Verse

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Found it as a show portraying Monarchy and I am impressed by it. The myths, butterflies, that sustain the institution for example.

[@MarkAndrewEdwards]

Thanks for featuring this, I thought I was the only one who remembered this show. It was one of the last I saw when I had cable and it came off of Ian McShane's epic work in Deadwood; it deserved more seasons and it deserves credit for actually attempting to translate the source material without 'Current Day'-ing it (too much). I appreciate you.

[@aliendeathpunch7044]

I watched it when I was in college and enjoyed this forgotten show. I was disappointed that it ended at one season.

[@humbleopulence]

I adore this series. I rewatch it every year. I remember seeingbrhe pilot when it aired and thinking "this is gonna be a ratings disaster on NBC, but if HBO had picked it up, not only would the episodes be longer and more mature, but itd be a ratings powerhouse! Alas... 'Twas ahead of its time.

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

I watched every ep when it aired. I was lucky to get it on DVD. It's certainly one of the most unique shows on TV and I agree--if only HBO had picked it up. Nonetheless, I'm glad it was made.

[@colehamilton5917]

This and Joan of Arcadia were brilliant shows that felt with themes related to God, and both suffered an untimely end!

[@EarlJWoods]

I really loved this show when it was broadcast, and devastated that it didn't get picked up for more seasons. I'm glad not everyone has forgotten it. Thanks for your cogent analysis!

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

Not all of us have forgotten it, and thankfully neither has Feral!

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

I thought I was the only person who remembered this show. Such a wild concept. I like how it kinda toed the line into Alternate History/Speculative Fiction with the way they colored in the setting.

[@KnightofRome01]

Glad you looked at this one. This is one of my favorite shows that I watched as a kid. Cannot wait for your next review.

[@martinrobert6709]

I remember this series when it premiered, and my first thought was the network has run out of ideas so they decided to mine the bible. It was a surprisingly good show and I regretted its cancellation.

[@davemedina437]

(engine revving) Jake: "Absolute Monarchies. I hate Absolute Monarchies!" Elwood: "Floor it." (squealing tires)

[@westrim]

Fundamentally, this died because it was Premiere Television a few years before that became more than just an HBO thing, and because it was on a major network. I don't think NBC could have properly marketed it: fundamentally, it wasn't what people watching network television were looking for, and the people looking for content like Kings weren't looking at the network channels. At the time, I was transitioning from watching the networks to casting my net wider, so I understand I was lucky to catch it and why so many people missed it.

[@Tracer_Krieg]

I have another potential one for you to take a crack at: Rollerball with James Caan. It's kind of a proto-Running Man where Corporations rule like countries and settle their differences with bloody gladiatorial games of Rollerskatting Hockey Basketball. The problem is, the best player in the game has gotten too popular with the masses, so he needs to be silenced.

[@feralhistorian]

I did a Rollerball one way back in the back-catalog, kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXPLk6qCrZmCatE though it's probably going to be revisited along with Running Man and a few others.

[@Nick-zp3ub]

I wish rollerball was a real sport. If it was as brutal as mma it would be even more popular than football

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

@@Nick-zp3ub The game "Rugball" from Buichi Terasawa's manga COBRA was certainly inspired by ROLLERBALL.

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

I adore Kings. I'm glad to see this commentary on its brief run.

[@captainyossarian388]

Great video. Liked and subscribed. Loved this series, the writing, the performances, the cinematography, the soundtrack. Anyone who hasn't seen it, it's well worth a watch.

[@chrish9698]

I remember this show when it airing originally and I recall being with impressed with it at the time. It’s a shame that it’s been somewhat forgotten in the (15?!?!) years since. Great retrospective review!

[@brokenlantern09]

I'm glad others remember this show, wish I could find it online to rewatch

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

I ended up buying it on DVD when I couldn't find it on streaming services.

[@Hugebull]

The "Quest" part of the video was perfect. Perhaps that is what the modern action movie lacks, for the hero to collect... errhm. Then before anyone jumps on any sort of wagon, I will clarify that King Saul (King Silas in the show) was already mad when he made that specific... request. The Old Testament is an endless series of things not to do. I just thought that should be said and clarified. ----- I have been thinking about this show on and off again for years. It must be... I must have watched it around the time it came out, when it was aired deep in the night here in Norway. All the good stuff was always aired between midnight and four in the morning for some reason. I've only watched it that one time, but it stayed with me. Perhaps this was where I fell in love with old stories told in a modern setting. Like "Coriolanus" with Ralph Fiennes. Or "King Charles III" with Tim Pigott-Smith. I haven't actually seen "Richard III" with Ian McKellen. It's been on my list, and the comments here reminded me of it. ----- Then a show that I never in a million years thought I would watch. Did you know that the South Koreans make some pretty good TV shows? I had no idea until I stumbled upon some on Netflix. And this one became my favorite TV show of all time. "Crash Landing on You". To summarize, it is basically the story of a princess (South Korean, daughter to a man who owns a billion-dollar corporate empire), and a prince (A captain in the North Korean army). As the title says, she accidentally flies over the border and crash, he finds her, he hides her. The TV show happens. As the story takes place in North Korea for most of show, it really feeds into this feeling of being a story from centuries ago but with a modern visual. It's awesome. And best of all? No Hollywood politics. None. And also, the South Koreans tend to make one long season of the TV show, and that's it. And they are far more socially conservative than the West. ------------ Now, back to the video. I find I must once more jump back to CS Lewis. He's the smart one, I'm just the parrot. "Thirdly, I do not like the pretensions of Government --the grounds on which it demands my obedience-- to be pitched too high. I don't like the medicine-man's magical pretensions nor the Bourbon's Divine Right. This is not solely because I disbelieve in magic and in Bossuet's Politique. I believe in God, but I detest theocracy. For every Government consists of mere men and is, strictly viewed, a makeshift; if it adds to its commands "Thus saith the Lord", it lies, and lies dangerously. On just the same ground I dread government in the name of science. That is how tyrannies come in. In every age the men who want us under their thumb, if they have any sense, will put forward the particular pretension which the hopes and fears of that age render most potent. They "cash in". It has been magic, it has been Christianity. Now it will certainly be science. Perhaps the real scientists may not think much of the tyrants' 'science'-- they didn't think much of Hitler's racial theories or Stalin's biology. But they can be muzzled." ----- The idea of "Divine Rule" terrifies me. There is a reason why the Puritans (my people) waged a bloody civil war against Charles I. And you are absolutely correct in the video by comparing it to Marxist dialectics, or any other 'thing' that can be used to justify and legitimize actions. With Universal Suffrage, it legitimizes every action made by the government, because it was made in the name of Democracy and of the majority. Where now, the very term "Democracy" has started to sound like the chanting of the name of some newly made pagan god. In all these cases, you can just make something up on the spot, and then not just justify your action, but legitimize it from the fact that you did it. A self-fueling machine of madness and the open potential for boundless oppression. And what always happens, whether they use the Bible or they use Marx, is that they never actually do what is written. The Kings who claimed Divine Right, never acted accordingly to what God said. And Stalin and Lenin never acted according to what Marx said. And about the TV show itself, King Saul (King Silas in the show), had already lost the support from the Eternal. Yet he would be the last to publicly acknowledge that fact.

[@feralhistorian]

I always wondered why they changed Saul to Silas in this show. Not enough to spend much effort trying to find out though. So many other nagging questions about other matters. But that said, I'm about due to watch that Ralph Fiennes Coriolanus again, it's been a few years. It's always tangled in my head with a stage production I saw in Ontario in 2018(?), directed by Robert LePage. It was the same kind of modern setting, Aufidius as guerrilla leader, but it was the most interesting stage production I've ever seen. Heavy use of layered scaffolds behind projection screens and moving set elements, it was almost like a comic book thrown up on stage. I've never heard of "Crash Landing On You" but I'll check it out this weekend. I think my wife is getting tired of the 80s-90s sci-fi I've been subjecting her to so it's a good time to throw something new in. As for the evils of government . . . These days I can't say anything without slipping into a crotchety old anarchist rant. A lot of Americans are lamenting the loss of confidence in media, law, Universities, the scientific establishment; and I just think "what took you so long?"

[@Hugebull]

@@feralhistorian Without doing any research, I could only assume it was how the name comes off the tongue. Silas sounds a lot more nefarious than Saul. Even saying Saul in English is pretty strange. Sadly, Norway has absolutely no connection to Shakespear. At best we have some from the Romanticism era, but in reality you will end up with some variation of something post-modern. Besides, here in the southwest of Norway, you would get the same theatre experience that you would probably find in every other rural area. It's either for kids, or for weirdoes. I hope she likes it. Although she is going to have to read subtitles, which is something we grew up with here, but I have heard it could be a problem for some Americans to get used to. I could never be an Anarchist. I flirted with the idea in my late teens, but it never stuck. Anarcho-Communism was my thing among all the variations and such. But even if we were to somehow get it implemented in an acceptable way, the first thing we would do is to get rid of it. From my perspective, we were made for the Garden of Eden. And the first thing we did was muck it all up. What I find to be tragic with people "waking up", is that they very often seem to find some arbitrary point or place to hold on to. Such as the "KZbin Right-Wing" people, who seem to have this fetish for the 1950s. Or people look back at some specific politician or period as the place where it was still good, or before it got really bad. Almost makes it seem like some sort of defense mechanism holding them back.

[@Hugebull]

@@feralhistorian Oh, about "Crash Landing on You". There tends to be an extra scene after the end credits of an episode.

[@boobah5643]

"'...'Democracy' has started to sound like the chanting of the name of some newly made pagan god." An excellent way to put it, since they've redefined the term so that they can say with a straight face that keeping decisions away from the _demos_ makes the whole thing 'more democratic.' Those who once believed in the classical definition can't forgive the _demos_ for voting for Brexit and Trump, but neither can they face that the _demos_ aren't dedicated to the ends they 'should be.'

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

As a random aside, I was pretty young when the show came out and it was the first role that I ever saw Ian McShane in where I recognized him, and it made me appreciate him as an actor for the rest of my life. going back and watching a little bit of it some years later there is something about him that was perfect, a mix of the Biblical and the Shakespearean and the ruthless entrepreneur / "American Spirit" (which he did outstandingly in Deadwood despite being a Brit) that made him fit the role so well it was hard for me to ever imagine anyone else taking it. The mixture of the regal, with the cutthroat, with the humanity was something special. The young guy who played David opposite him actually had a good mix of the naive with the growing well, the wife was good, and of course Eamon Walker had a great biblical presence too. Come to think of it the brother/rival was also great and the daughter was not too bad. All in all surprisingly well cast show for one that has been so forgotten.

[@Bttry01]

The algorithm brought me to this video and your channel. Your stuff is great.

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

Even if I disagree with some of what the Feral Historian says...I always, ALWAYS find his videos fascinating and worth watching. This video for KINGS was no exception.

[@captainjaneway2007]

I loved the show so much I bought it on apple movies. They canceled the show after the first episode. I remember reading about this. The writer stated that he thought that the network wasn’t ready for this biblical style and felt that they purposely set him up for failure. Plus the time slot was weird. It was like Sunday at 10pm. Viewership was never what the network wanted. I honestly believe that they did set the writer up. They wanted an HBO style drama for 1/2 the price. I think it would have been successful if the network would have made it a prime time show and let it run for more than one season. But that’s just my opinion.

[@astarteswillum5259]

This sounds like a really good show. I think I'll give it a watch.

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

It's worth the watch.

[@therealviceroy]

i remember watching this show and getting pissed it got cancelled. Ian McShane was so fun to watch, just chewing up every scene he was in.

[@frankm.2850]

Wow! I was beginning to think I'd imagined this series! Ian McShane was PERFECT casting

[@Nortonius_]

Haven’t thought of this show more than a few times since i watched it, thanks for bringing it back!

[@kingsleyedge304]

I loved this show, hated that it got canceled. Still watch it every so often

[@jamesfox019]

I not only remember this show but was a huge fan and hope and scoured for reboots or subsequent season(s). This was an amazing show and Ian Mcshane was bloody wonderful!! Maybe we need more of this!

[@commanderpower79]

I remember this show. Wow. That was a while ago. Just found your channel! Subscribed!

[@deshrektives]

That show was so good! Thank you for doing it justice!

[@CCootauco]

What the hell, I thought I was the only one who remembered this show. I liked it.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

Interestingly, the general audience at the time seemed to think that this was some sort of Ruritanian romance taking place in our own world, but according to the producers themselves, this took place in an alternate timeline. They never explained the whole thing, but what they did say is that history is the same as ours up until the American Civil War. For whatever reason that war didn’t end after four years, but instead went on for generations, with the United States, and then all of North America fragmenting into scores of small countries, republics, principalities, dictatorships, and so on. They said that Shiloh was New York City, which had been completely burned to the ground, and destroyed in one of the countless wars. In the show King Silas says that he chose to rebuild it and rename it as his capital. So I thought that was really interesting, and since this show has been mostly forgotten, I don’t think many people remember that. Assuming many people knew it to begin with. It wasn’t a very popular show.

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

Thanks for this info about the world of KINGS. I figured that they had filmed it in New York City. I agree that many did forget the show, but not everyone. 😁

[@mahatmarandy5977]

@ happy to help

[@jameslooker4791]

I actually remember Kings as one of Rami Malik's first projects. I watched it in '09.

[@suttone75]

I loved it so much I bought the DVD set. I love this series.

[@feralhistorian]

I couldn't find the DVD set before doing this video so I used bootleg tv rips. Two days after it went live, Amazon had the DVD's for ten bucks.

[@ivanthemadvandal8435]

For anyone wondering about the foreskin thing, Being circumcised is a Jewish symbol of their dedication to God, so collecting foreskins in this context would've been the equivalent of taking the flag off a dead enemy's uniform. Also gruesome as it seems now, taking body parts as trophies has been common for most of history, and it could be much worse. The Maori would consume, let's just say human rocky mountain oysters......raw

[@feralhistorian]

That makes sense. Thanks for the context on that.

[@Oneamongthelegion]

You left out the best part: David took TWO hundred instead of the requested one hundred foreskins.

[@aaronthompson192]

@@feralhistorianThink of them as scalps. By stipulating foreskins the king knew they couldn't just kill a bunch of Jews and pass them off as enemies.

[@MrRobot1984]

I remember Kings, it came out in the wake of Heroes getting canceled. It was a shaky premise coming out of the writers strike too.

[@nathanporrata9274]

I loved this show. It was so good and deserved to continue

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

Thanks for the recommendation. I've wishlisted the DVD.

[@romanmanner]

This was an excellent show. Wish it had continued.

[@sardomarcrowe5723]

Loved this show. Was teally looking firward to seeing the test of it.

[@KellAnderson]

I loved this show. I still rewatch it occasionally.

[@death1090]

I loved this show when it was new. I still think about it from time to time.

[@ab5olut3zero95]

I’ve never heard of this, but aside from it being a somewhat heavy-handed allegory, it seems like a good ride. I’ll have to find the dvds.

[@MarcMcKenzie-qb6or]

It's worth the watch. I ended up buying the DVDs a couple of years ago.

[@sAdam_II]

Damn, I remember watching it. Truly an artefact of times long gone.

[@bpora01]

I remember the ads for this. I remember thinking to myself "do we really need this?"

[@crazando]

This show seems awesome, I'd love to check this out

[@mandaloretheproud6622]

'The Beast of War' is another example of a tank used as a 'David and Goliath' metaphor.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

I’ve been binging your videos over the last few days. You’ve got some good stuff my friend. 👍 Recommendation: Can you do a video on Mr. House and New Vegas?

[@feralhistorian]

I've got some thoughts on House. Need to do another New Vegas playthrough one of these days, it's been awhile.

[@AmericanImperium1776]

@@feralhistorian Okay great. Thanks. 👍

[@KatanamasterV]

An algorithm said, "Understanding is a three edged sword. Your side, their side, and the truth." Somehow my minor rewrite of this quote to include the word algorithm, mainly because it's how I've been doing these quotes, make this one feel much more disturbing than the original quote.

[@Halo4Lyf]

This was an amazing series, and I absolutely loved it. Damn shame.

[@jonesjack6088]

I used to watch this on hulu back when hulu was free forgot how long ago that was.

[@mrmeglomania]

I seriously thought I was the only person who remembers that show.

[@Limubi1]

This sounds great!

[@S.Collins]

Another wierd forgotten TV show is Jericho.

[@jessiemiller7391]

Please do a video about Jericho TV show.

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

Jericho was awesome, until they sorta rushed to a suedo ending iirc. Season 1 is solid but season 2 I feel moves things too quickly.

[@jeremybain3830]

Thats because they were briefly canceled after season 1. A fan campaign involving mailing peanuts to the network, like a shipping container worth, led to a limited green lit 2nd season to finish the story. Better than nothing I say. ​@@bbrbbr-on2gd

[@fnord4960]

I watched this show when it was on, I loved it.

[@gregcampwriter]

Any show with Lovejoy in it deserves many seasons.

[@jeramygardner4169]

I really like the show I appreciate your essay

[@MrQdiddy85]

I absolutely loved this show

[@newtype0083]

I enjoyed this show and was really disappointed it ended so soon.

[@MrQdiddy85]

I’ve been trying to find this on dvd but no luck

[@davidhelmer9124]

This Show was Great! Really wasn’t set up to succeed, but it should of. Michael Green made something really special, and he should have continued it, if not on the small screen maybe comics or the like.

[@christopherbataluk8148]

This was an underrated show. McShane was just chewing up the scenery. I enjoyed it.

[@Aeolusdallas]

I really liked this show when it aired

[@coachb2766]

I remember and enjoyed this show. Sorry it ended so soon.

[@southloopsox]

Speaking of forgotten NBC shows...I'd love it if you gave "Awake" a run.

[@kylereece5511]

The whole premise of this show reminds me a lot of that one 1995 adaptation of Richard III that set the story in a sort of alternate history version of Britain in the 1930’s where Fascism comes to power in England instead, with the titular character fittingly filling the role of Führer/Duce. It’s actually somewhat interesting considering the fact that the IRL British Fascist movement was headed by Oswald Mosley, who actually was an aristocrat. I don’t know if they intended that connection or not, but the parallels are surprising in any case.

[@feralhistorian]

Right, the Ian Mckellan version. I really enjoyed that one at the time, it took a few liberties with combining a couple characters but it all served what they were doing. It seems like someone involved with it said in an interview that were specifically inspired by Mosley's BUF for the uniforms, but I can't recall enough to hunt it down.

[@Bronasaxon]

Richard the 3rd

[@kylereece5511]

@@feralhistorian Now that I think about it, there’s also that 2011 Ralph Fiennes version of Coriolanus that depicts the story in a world that heavily resembles Post-Soviet Eastern Europe, urban decay, ethnic conflict and all. Makes you wonder what other Shakespearean or other classic stories and plays could be adapted into modern or almost-modern times.

[@huskerfan-el4jx]

I think the story of Spearfish over the last 30 years could be retold as the Illiad. It seems like retelling these stories in a modern context would be a good way for us to understand their wisdom. I wish kings had been more successful.

[@wildtexan2096]

I really enjoyed Kings, and wished it had gotten a second season.

[@johnscott6984]

Sad when NBC canceled Kings but not crushed since it's not hard to figure out the rest of the story - though I do wonder if we would've had a musical episode...😊

[@danielkover7157]

Unsurprisingly, I've never heard of this show. It has me intrigued. I wonder, if it had continued, if its finale would be better than GoT.

[@ZenGuyMax]

I remember "Kings." I thought it was great! 👍🏾

[@Redjack4864]

My wife and i loved that show.

[@wompa70]

This show was so good.

[@Knyfefyte]

This show was amazing.

[@morthim]

they would have needed to have a ton of well written shows like this to get back the viewers. i've never before heard of this, and if the acting was better, i may have like this.

[@JonathanMorgan-zs8mm]

Looks cool

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

I liked the show, don't know why they cancelled it.

[@zachs.murray6003]

This sounded like an interesting show. Shame it didn't go on longer.

[@jjohnson3469]

I remember the ads for it but never watched it.

[@blshouse]

That show sounds amazing! No wonder it had to die so quickly. Le sigh.

[@seltin1988]

you might be the one the few cons i follow on youtube, nice work on this :)

[@zico739]

It’s a shame this show got cancelled.

[@adamseay216]

2:24 combined arms is not a thing in this world 😂 idk why it’s so funny but I keep repeating it lol

[@stuggaroy]

I loved kings!

[@tomv7017]

i liked this show

[@cane6074]

The fact that a major Network allowed a show based of Judo-Christian religion to be made is remarkable, and would never be allowed to fly these days, they would be laughed at or people would be to afraid to try it, let alone the have creative talent which is lacking in the film industry these days. Just hose to show how much the state of country has change in such little time(not for the better), this is fairly recently made in the late 2000's. I'm going check it out.

[@allthenewsordeath5772]

I think for a lot of people it’s not intentional, most people, including those who self-identify as Christians are just incredibly ignorant.

[@janpol466]

Ian McShane is a mark of good canceled show, he was in so many !

[@Emanon...]

Thank you for the brilliant analysis. Best regards A Palestinian

[@sbeaber]

Curse you NBC. This show was amazing

[@LtColwtf]

So it is a retelling of the Old Testament story of King David and King Saul.

[@ParameterGrenze]

How tf did I never heard of this??

[@kapparomeo]

This show failed because the network got skittish about the religious content. The whole point of Kings is that it's a retelling of the Biblical story of King David in a modern-day setting. If they'd actually promoted that to the Bible Belt they'd have made ten seasons and a trillion dollars - depicting the USA as the literal Promised Land would really get that City-on-the-Hill, God's-Own-Country sort of patriotism burning. But they panicked that all that Sunday School stuff would scare off general audiences so they tried to market it as a conventionally secular, House of Cards-esque political drama which just confused everyone who did tune in.

[@georgerafa5041]

I remember this one, was one of the last shows I still watched on tv before streaming. I enjoyed it but my American programming did predispose me to dislike the entire concept of monarchy. How funny that now that's what I actually want.

[@kapsig10]

Loved that show. Wish it would have survived

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Fun Fact: Russia can (and ocasionaly does) put up, questionable, claims to US Territory, from Alaska to parts of California and Hawaii.

[@nc9318]

The kingdom of gaboa needs to be reformed.

[@merri-toddwebster2473]

Sebastian Stan wasn't just young-looking, he was very young *g* He played a lot of pretty weepy gay boys in his early days.

[@Albemarle7]

The city of Gath is now called Gaza, No joke.

[@gracchus7782]

No, they were separate Philistine cities. Gaza has always been Gaza. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistia

[@dylanchouinard6141]

I actually wrote a story in high school that was probably a better adaptation than this. It was also much more Jewish and gay

[@dagon99]

Lol. Lmao even.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

@@dagon99 I mean was I wrong?

[@thelordofcringe]

Not breaking past the stereotypes, are we?

[@dylanchouinard6141]

@@thelordofcringe I mean I am both gay and Jewish so why not?

[@thelordofcringe]

@@dylanchouinard6141 It's a harmful stereotype normally, but if you're genuinely trying to express your individuality, then its okay.

[@sid2112]

I do not blame him, but Culkin killed it forever.