Kingslandings Most Entitled NARCISSIST: Rhaenyra The CRUEL

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Rhaenyra targaryen. A narcissistic terrible human being that has now right to be queen. House of the dragon makes it clear through her actions she cannot be trusted
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@fasho387
@fasho387 2 ай бұрын
rhaenyra, daemon and even viserys are targaryen supremacists, and believe they have the divine right to rule. Rhaenyra let all those bastards die because she believes any action taken by her is justified, because targaryen. she doesnt care what the smallfolk think and said so herself. definitely a villain, and she will do worse things in the future
@HardReadSerRose
@HardReadSerRose 2 ай бұрын
I'm Glad more people hate Targshits
@4549uef
@4549uef 2 ай бұрын
That's why I'm happy that her descendants didn't get a dragon until after Robert's hammer time The valyrians are entitled white-haired cursed group who give birth to weird malformed babies sometimes and they caused the fall of their original home and now they want to play gods in another land, they want to change the laws whenever it suits them even if it will create future wars (like how Viserys kept Rhaenyra as heir even after having 3 sons and her having 3 illegitimate sons) yet they also want to use the law whenever it suits them (like Corlys and Rhaenyra believing that Driftmark should go to Luke instead of Baela for power grabbing) They're very very hypocrites, they only have progressive ideas when it suits Rhaenyra
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 2 ай бұрын
You forgot the most important parts. She wanted Aemond tortured 'sharply questioned' means torture. She starved an entire city for the throne, blockade? She fed two dozen smallfolk to Vermithor for a rider. (She also killed an innocent guard to pass him off as Laenor).
@KingSlayer_.
@KingSlayer_. 2 ай бұрын
True. Plus, she's always been really petulant and self-righteous. She has that my shit don't stink kind of attitude
@spoons250
@spoons250 2 ай бұрын
She made it clear you could and likley would die if you tried to claim a dragon. Dragon eggs were never before offered to people of low birth because of "standards". The greens also starved a city by that logic. They could have just left and then Rhaenyra would remove her block aid. She isnt required to let food pass her land if she dosnt want too just like the greens dont NEED the throne. She was trying to get Aemond to shut up, nothing more. She killed nobody, it was Daemons plot and his hand that held the blade, why lie? If we are going on people killed on orders then Ali cent wished for hte death of all of the strong family. But OHHH thats different and so on and so fourth and blah boah bloahaolh
@blueblack3591
@blueblack3591 2 ай бұрын
Seems like the writers are unaware how horrible her actions are
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 2 ай бұрын
@@blueblack3591 I question their morality...
@greenapples1149
@greenapples1149 2 ай бұрын
They've been whitewashing her a lot, lately.
@Cappellano
@Cappellano 2 ай бұрын
I have to admit that both in the book and show, Rhanerya would be a terrible queen. She was impetuous, arrogant, and petty and refused to listen to wise advice. Despite having kids with Harwin Strong, she clearly had no real affection for him, which is obvious from how she hardly reacted to his death. If she wanted an open marriage, she could have chosen a Velaryon, Targaryen or Celtigar to satisfy her "appetite" and the kids would have had Valyrian features. Talking about the kids, she put them in danger by sending them away from Dragonstone without real protection but blamed everybody else when they were harmed. Then there is the issue of the dragonseeds. She did not realise that, depending on their parentage, some of the dragonseeds may have a stronger claim to the throne than her. Ultimately, I think she wanted to be a monarch because she felt powerless as a woman in a medieval society, and she thought she would gain true power, autonomy and control. Which also shows how self serving she really was.
@kierstudios
@kierstudios 2 ай бұрын
And it makes total sense as to why she’d turn out this way. Viserys mostly ignored her, Aemma was in and out of the child bed, so who was her adult role model? Daemon, her uncle who stroked her ego and showered her in attention and gifts to groom her. Who taught her the same adage he lives by: Targaryens are closer to gods than to men. They are the dragon, they can and should do as they please. It’s rare these days to get a protagonist that’s so complex
@sevenkingdomz
@sevenkingdomz 2 ай бұрын
exactly! her environment altered how she thinks. even though most of the blame is on others around her i still cannot excuse her from her actions. loved reading your comment!
@a.r.h9919
@a.r.h9919 2 ай бұрын
its even more complex writers that dont have this biases when wrting that is one of the details many dont want to say about the show
@stefiTHC
@stefiTHC 2 ай бұрын
All prince and princess are very spoiled, you have no point. Alicent had no business blaming or questioning her about what he did with Daemon. Viserys stood by his decision to name her as heir, and she proved herself a better queen when the war started, unlike Aegon who can’t even speak high Valyrian. Also, she’s a mother, what was she supposed to do? Let her son get cut?? Laenor went away on his own, she didn’t kill him, and it’s not her fault that he couldn’t have kids with her either.
@jksperson7745
@jksperson7745 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@stefiTHC they do have a point. A princess can be spoiled but they should never feel entitled to something they have not worked for. And also continue to blame the audience when they say they feel uncomfortable that she wants to be queen when she was shirking her duties as royal for extended periods, having multiple bastards, and pretend they are entitled to titles just because they are her kids. And you think her lying about Daemon wasn’t bad? Girl please Alicent asking her was not at all wrong. Her father lost her job because she lied. She also has no idea how to strategize and gets upset because she thinks that means her council is undermining her authority. Like girl please. Rhaenyra isn’t just a spoiled brat. She is also a complete idiot.
@jksperson7745
@jksperson7745 2 ай бұрын
@@stefiTHCher son did the cutting idiot. Aemond was getting attacked by all the kids over a dragon that didn’t even belong to Baela. Then they victim blamed him for getting himself cut when they were the ones that got upset at him and Aemond saw they them on the ground they still cut his eye. Ridiculous.
@masha22092000r
@masha22092000r 2 ай бұрын
HotD season 2 tried SO HARD to make Rhaenyra a "girlboss, hollier-than-life" protagonist that they basically whitewashed her into a passive & entitled crybaby who doesn't learn from her mistakes (Luce's death is a clear signal that war is unavoidable, yet we get a braindead sequence of her traveling to King's Landing even though the chances of her getting captured were sky-heigh), doesn't really care about her relationships (Leanor dies off-screen and they just brush it off???), doesn't really think about consequences (Dragonseeds), trusts untrustworthy people too easily (White Worm) etc etc. In the end they had me agreeing with Sir Alfred in S2 Ep 8 - she is not a good queen material - and that's insane considering what that guy does in the book.
@alessandrovalleri8968
@alessandrovalleri8968 2 ай бұрын
The problem is that she and the blacks are always shown in a good light, I would have loved to see more of a grey side like in the books for what I've heard
@kysngaming7787
@kysngaming7787 2 ай бұрын
Black fans believe that good mother and good wife equals good queen. The queen is supposed to be more than that.
@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p
@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call her a good mother or a good wife the bastards part is disgusting and even more disgusting is forcing them to be legitimate children
@InesZemri
@InesZemri 2 ай бұрын
​@@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8pLooking at your name we understand why😌
@kysngaming7787
@kysngaming7787 2 ай бұрын
@InesZemri they're not wrong, though. Rhaenyra knowingly does it 3 times and does nothing to protect them. Then she puts them in further danger by giving Daemon 2 trueborn sons. Daemon is just as much a threat to her claim as Aegon is.
@septimusoraka95
@septimusoraka95 2 ай бұрын
She's Not a good mother or wife She sort of cares for her sons every now and then but that's it Tried to kill her firsf husband Cheated on him which is understandable Cheated on Daomon and doesnt seem to have any feelings for him at all
@femalegays
@femalegays 2 ай бұрын
the replies make me laugh a little cause i swear, if rhaenyra died before daemon, he'd probably either war w/ jace and joffery or claim them as bastards and kill them himself so he could have the throne. he'd be set, he has trueborn child w/ nyra, he could make her a martyr that didn't know and just loved her children.
@luciotargino5187
@luciotargino5187 2 ай бұрын
The fact that she is portrayed as someone worth of support just goes to show the moral decadence western society currently faces...
@mrbad9171
@mrbad9171 2 ай бұрын
As a writing nerd i want to see this type of character in her from the season 1 , i want to see her do more unjustified things but the bad thing is that the show writers are trying to make her like the main character they think this is what a grey character is , and that what made people like you for example to think that her deeds are just overlooked because yeah the show writers trying to show that what she did is justified . I want to see the greens and the blacks and say to myself they both don't deserve the throne , and not see them and pety them both or choose a side , I don't want to choose a side that's not what grr Martin wanted when he writed the story , the story is about two power hungry parties ( like the real life politicians ) who wanted power
@sevenkingdomz
@sevenkingdomz 2 ай бұрын
well said!
@e.d.m3076
@e.d.m3076 2 ай бұрын
IN the latest episode, Rhaenyra sacrificed loads of Targaryen bastards to Vermithor and ordered her guards to stop them escaping. That's not showing her in a good light.
@ilbb7055
@ilbb7055 2 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra all the time: "What 😐would 😐you😐 have me😐 do? 😐" I don't know....maybe your job,queen??
@ashleyelisabeth4
@ashleyelisabeth4 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone pointed this out 😂
@ashleyelisabeth4
@ashleyelisabeth4 2 ай бұрын
The irony in the writers being bias towards Team Black is that they're making the fanbase slowly fall in love with the Team Green characters. And this all because they're showing the Greens' story while telling the Blacks by saying they're so great without giving proof as to why and how
@jjosifovic
@jjosifovic 2 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra like most of King V children is a product of the man who raised her. King V was pure absent father he ignored all his kids by alicent he constantly doesnt discipline rhaenyra or teach her how to rule and he always protects her from her mistakes.......Team Green for the under dogs.
@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096
@AegonTargaryenthesecond3096 2 ай бұрын
Every day I find a new team green channel it is a good day
@4549uef
@4549uef 2 ай бұрын
That's why I'm happy that her descendants didn't get a dragon until after Robert's hammer time The valyrians are entitled white-haired cursed group who give birth to weird malformed babies sometimes and they caused the fall of their original home and now they want to play gods in another land, they want to change the laws whenever it suits them even if it will create future wars (like how Viserys kept Rhaenyra as heir even after having 3 sons and her having 3 illegitimate sons) yet they also want to use the law whenever it suits them (like Corlys and Rhaenyra believing that Driftmark should go to Luke instead of Baela for power grabbing) They're very very hypocrites, they only have progressive ideas when it suits Rhaenyra In Asoiaf I'm Pro-Tyrell and in the Dance I was Pro-Otto, he was the only sane one and didn't do anything wrong, Viserys is the real villain of the story, dude lost his dragon so he orchestrated the demise of all the others with that foolish decision (no King in history has ever done that because it's asking for war 101)
@Tea962
@Tea962 2 ай бұрын
She's a psychopath and so our many of the cast of that series smh so many serial killers and psychos slaughtering their family members and innocent subjects for power
@Tea962
@Tea962 2 ай бұрын
So glad that Trag line completely dies off in GOT. John Snow is the only one with humanity and the only one who deserves to live. And he will marry a non Targ woman and raise his kids as Northerners
@lalasecretly
@lalasecretly 2 ай бұрын
Real and she doesn't deserve to be queen either, she's a weak and uncharismatic leader so she can go
@Margatatials
@Margatatials 2 ай бұрын
It kinda boggles my mind how fast people agreed with Rhaenyra's right to absolute rule because 'racial supremecy' because it makes for a nice power fantasy and she has the most modern world view despite that making no sense in the setting.
@KitsuneShapeShifter
@KitsuneShapeShifter 2 ай бұрын
The real main character who deserves the win, is Otto
@Morfe02
@Morfe02 2 ай бұрын
The show is trying so hard to make it the "female protagonist" and they forgot to add layers to the characters something even ALICENT GOT Besides being bully because is a woman, or the beef with Daemon, i dont see much about her when: She lost 2 kids, his father and his aunt-exmother in law She "kill" Laenor we never see talking about that when Seasmoke is crazy She never talks about Harwin even if Jace mentions him Her character is not having character by her own choice lmao Again, i like Otto because is a SonofB that cares about his family, Alicent too in some stupid way, i care even about Aemond not only because is absolute villain but also they gave them a lot of "issues" like mommy ones or self steem or bully Basically Rhaenyra has no problems at all because she is PERFECT: she doesnt care about her family after episode 2 (except not sending Jace and sending her two kids after that zero mention about them what a mother), doesnt care about her allies, doesnt care about the results (maybe in season 3 this is going to explote) Why i should care about this character at all ? Thats why the Mysaria scene doesnt work for me, we never see Rhaenyra opening up in fact the White worm tells her entire story and then she goes to kiss. We never see the develop or at least more about the head of Rhaenyra, they made her the "i dont care about my feelings i only care to rule right" and thats basically killing her personality in some way
@mgiangiulio6064
@mgiangiulio6064 2 ай бұрын
I think when looking at characters it can be helpful to some extent to look at models, such as Myers-Briggs. People, characters, deal with and show emotions differently. Also the level of stress a person/character has, would not necessarily allow them to show/feel their emotions. It's just not helpful to weep over your children when you have a war to fight and the next thing is thrown your way every day. At some point people cut their losses and take what they have to find solutions. She has an amazing capacity to not be vengeful for example, one positive byproduct to not delve into her emotions. A negative certainly not thinking too much about those gone at the moment.
@kerkar220
@kerkar220 2 ай бұрын
Queen of lossers
@zacdavid184
@zacdavid184 2 ай бұрын
learn to spell
@FraBra88
@FraBra88 2 ай бұрын
Well, in season 2 she is acting decent, at leats more then Aemond. Agon too was trying to make things right, in his own way
@sevenkingdomz
@sevenkingdomz 2 ай бұрын
i agree
@Mariah-hd8xn
@Mariah-hd8xn 2 ай бұрын
I think realizing Daemon is utterly dishonorable made her open her eyes to the fact she needs to be better. she recognizes looking up to him was misguided, which was huge for her to acknowledge.
@ludiqtitan
@ludiqtitan 2 ай бұрын
@@Mariah-hd8xn Daemon's literally the only reason why she's a queen, tho.
@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p
@Eh-Mungu-Nguvu-Yetu-q8p 2 ай бұрын
In the end these people especially Rheanyra are some kind of Dragonlord supremacists in that they believe in their devine right to rule for me she's tries to justify this in very horrible ways.
@kimberlyplatt2382
@kimberlyplatt2382 Ай бұрын
Neither side deserves to rule. The fact that the show white washes team Black is pathetic and kills half the story.
@cynfaelalek-walker7003
@cynfaelalek-walker7003 2 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra is closer to Cersei than to Dany
@mgiangiulio6064
@mgiangiulio6064 2 ай бұрын
The very same video could be made about any other character. Funny.
@NuVisionTarot82
@NuVisionTarot82 2 ай бұрын
Exactly my thought lol
@alanaatkinson551
@alanaatkinson551 2 ай бұрын
@@NuVisionTarot82 Oh you mean Daemon. Yeah that makes sense.
@rufy2y
@rufy2y 2 ай бұрын
Still better than Otto Hightower, he has a single track mind of gettin all the power possible for himself and his family, if Viserys was able to have a male heir from Aemma, Otto would have changed his tactics but still try everything to get the most out of the situation, maybe even planning the death of the heir if necessary. Rhaenyra is a self entitled narcisist, true, would she have been a good queen? I doubt it, she would have been better than some of the worst targaryen kings at least. At the end of it Rhaenyra was the de facto Heir, Otto planned and schemed to go against the king's will to put his own blood on the throne, and was ultimately the reason for the Dance and as such the inevitable fall of house targaryen and the extinction of dragons, it's hard to get worse than that.
@guidoferrari5415
@guidoferrari5415 2 ай бұрын
Yeah no Vyseris wanted a male heir and Otto gave him that. Then Vyseris didn't love his children with Allicent. Otto has been the most pragmatic and Miles morally Better than Daemon Vyseris or Raenhyra.
@hawks7111
@hawks7111 2 ай бұрын
Isn't that what Rhaenyra is doing for her kids? If she really wanted peace for the realm she wouldn't be fighting a war.
@rufy2y
@rufy2y 2 ай бұрын
@@hawks7111 she didn't start the war tough, the greens named Aegon going against the king wishes, and then Aemond killed Rhaenyra son, they started a war not her. If she didn't care about the realm, she could have used all her dragons to raze the red keep to the ground with the greens inside it and destroy old town the seat of the Hightower, and just like that win the war in a day.
@Mcherri
@Mcherri 2 ай бұрын
@@hawks7111 she had no choice the greens made that decision for her when they killed Lucerys nobody not even viserys or jaeharys would ever let that go they would’ve punished the greens regardless if her sons were bastards or not they still held royal blood especially from the heir maybe taking the throne wasn’t the biggest slight and she could’ve overlooked that and was looking for a peaceful option but killing Luc accident or not was the final coffin along with all the plotting the war was inevitable the moment viserys passed and Otto got what he wanted though it didn’t last long.
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 2 ай бұрын
the only fault of Otto that I really hold him against is that he never advised Viserys to fight the Triarchy, despite the concerned voiced by Corlys. Everything else is game. And Rhaenyra didn't really help her case either; sleeping with Criston, having *three* bastards with Harwin, letting Leanor do whatever he wants, etc. Had she played it right, she would've won the throne. I still think she wouldn't be a good queen tho.
@equusquaggaquagga536
@equusquaggaquagga536 2 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra could have been a good or even great queen Yet she went out of her way to undermine her and her sons' claims to the throne
@larissagomes451
@larissagomes451 Ай бұрын
Rhaenyra is just like viserys, he loved rhaenyra, but enough to not marry alicent, rhaenyra loves her kids with harwin, but not enough to not marry daemon. Jace would never sit in throne in peace just like rhaenyra for having brothers. When she marry dameon and have kids with him making them legitimate kids she screw over jace, people would question him sitting on the throne and even possible rebel, they would his youngers brothers. Even if aegon iii and viserys did not wanted the throne and loved his older brothers deeply, their kids would most likely not feel the same way and would want to take the throne for their bastard uncle.
@a.m.308
@a.m.308 2 ай бұрын
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@trevorking2820
@trevorking2820 2 ай бұрын
😂
@menpostingw
@menpostingw Ай бұрын
Fr
@red_pilledprincess
@red_pilledprincess Ай бұрын
doesn't take away from the fact that she is the rightful sovereign
@CordsZ
@CordsZ 2 ай бұрын
It’s funny to watch all the men that her character triggers. 😂😂
@KevinOmdahl-wg3bx
@KevinOmdahl-wg3bx 2 ай бұрын
She is guilty of hypocracy not narscism. Narscism has become a trope crutch everybody uses for any bad behavior
@crinklescat1871
@crinklescat1871 4 күн бұрын
I don’t think either Aegon nor rhaenyra were fit to rule 🤷🏻‍♀️. I think one should be done on Alicent as well. They are both entitled and narcissistic. Alicent’s book counterpart is far more interesting, but they both share a lot of traits.
@funnight56
@funnight56 2 ай бұрын
This show was shit after episode 9 of last season.
@jaxthedisintegrator8096
@jaxthedisintegrator8096 2 ай бұрын
GREEN PROPAGANDA 😡😡😡 Great vid 👍👍👍
@berserk____1878
@berserk____1878 2 ай бұрын
Yessss
@dennissantiago9525
@dennissantiago9525 2 ай бұрын
Interesting take 🧐
@dr.harleyquinn9972
@dr.harleyquinn9972 2 ай бұрын
Can u please wear mike or something. Couldn't hear a thing
@ph4kiew
@ph4kiew 2 ай бұрын
clean ur ears bro
@updownleftright2
@updownleftright2 2 ай бұрын
Lol go make an appointment with some good otolaryngologist
@hamlinweisz
@hamlinweisz 2 ай бұрын
god forbid a princess who is entitled like she is literally the youngest dragon rider, first named heir of seven kingdoms. yall cant even let a woman have fun
@Sodone-s3m
@Sodone-s3m 2 ай бұрын
Nobody can convince me this guy actually watched the show...
@nenyeo6090
@nenyeo6090 2 ай бұрын
At all😂
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 2 ай бұрын
No one can convince you weren't dropped on the head as an infant.
@Sodone-s3m
@Sodone-s3m 2 ай бұрын
@@Mutazili How old are u 12 ?
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 2 ай бұрын
@@Sodone-s3mSo I was right, on the head.
@Sodone-s3m
@Sodone-s3m 2 ай бұрын
@@briefind Look within the human psychology it's normal to disturb the events to fit what we want to see ... but not to that point ... I think this is the most extreme case I've seen ... He wanted her to be evil and totally rewrote the series and not to mention even within his heavily disturbed reality the examples he give still aren't part the narcissist psychology and behavioral patterns he is using psychological term without knowing what is means ...
@johnny_thunder_3024
@johnny_thunder_3024 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I'm sure the video is good and well-recearched, but you just NEED to work on your manner of speaking and audio quality. I can't listen to this for more then a couple of minutes. Sorry
@tkdonnell89
@tkdonnell89 2 ай бұрын
Wait is Alicent not a manipulative, narcissist? Did they not literally hide the death of Rhenerya dad, so they can steal what was promised to her ? Did Aemond not unjustly kill Lucerys ? Rhenerya has her faults, just like every other human ever. But to act like most of the bad thing she has done was reactions to horrible things done to her. Cant blame someone for how they react to atrocities. The worst thing she did was get them dragonseeds killed, but she warned them of what could happen and they still stepped up to the plate. Its like when people die in war, they know what they are signing up for, either my life will be better of i get through this, or i will die, its pretty simple. Team Black all day, fuck the other side.
@Mutazili
@Mutazili 2 ай бұрын
She wanted Aemond tortured right after he lost an eye, that's Cersei type cruelty, she killed an innocent guard to pass him off as Laenor, cute to save gay hubby, but the innocent guard? Murder is murder. She starves a city because daddy said she can have a throne, war crimes much? Borderline genocidal. Has two dozen smallfolk eaten alive by dragon to find a rider? Etc etc
@basiosrasian225
@basiosrasian225 2 ай бұрын
I don’t care about personal moral failures. I care about the good of the realm and the truth is the Greens are better for the realm. Rhaenyra’s willingness to have bastards, her distaste for duty makes her a poor choice for the throne. She’s never shown to be particularly skilled in politics, in fact the opposite as she lets the Greens consolidate power in King’s Landing. She makes enemies everywhere, by disrespecting people, she doesn’t need enemies, like Cersei she’s her own worst enemy. Like Joffrey she doesn’t understand that she needs to be popular with the small folk, to make allies, because she views herself as better than them and feels she’s entitled to the throne. This especially bad because unfair as it may be as a woman she’ll have a tougher time ruling without opposition which is why it’s important to make allies not enemies. There’s nothing wrong with Rhaenyra fucking Harwin Strong, what was foolish was by siring 3 bastards from him especially when her husband is black. Having the children especially the first born being bastards was one of the stupidest decisions she would have done, first it alienates one of the few houses loyal to her and in addition by doing so she’s made her own succession crisis in the future as people will no doubt support her children with Daemon as rightful heirs as they are true born sons and not bastards. No body wants a bastard on the Iron Throne. If a war of succession doesn’t happen with Jace then it’s likely it will happen to Jace’s kids. And this is an optimistic scenario, more than likely Rhaenyra and Daemon will run Westeros into the ground because both are utter incompetent and Daemon is a violent psychopath. Now Aegon has his flaws, id even say he’s probably worse person than Rhaenyra but as we know a bad man doesn’t mean a bad king. Now Aegon may be incompetent but Otto and Alicent are/were (before season 2 decided to make Alicent stupid.) and Aegon listened to them. Having Aegon on the throne also avoids potential succession issues in the future and the potential backlash of the lords and small folk alike of ignoring generations of Andal tradition. Now to be clear this doesn’t mean that one day they couldn’t and shouldn’t be a Queen just not someone as self absorbed and idiotic as Rhaenyra. Ultimately if Rhaenyra was the dutiful rightful Queen she’s view as she wouldn’t stopped the war and accepted Aegon’s rule saving millions of people, including her and Alicent’s families. But of course she didn’t do that because the story should/was supposed about two villainous selfish people destroying their own lives through needless bloodshed.
@Kryptopathic
@Kryptopathic 2 ай бұрын
Alicent being a manipulative, narcissist, or not, does nothing to prevent Rhenerya from being a narcissist. Narcissism is practically the defining characteristic of the nobility in that world. It’s what gets most of them into their horrible situations.
@greenapples1149
@greenapples1149 2 ай бұрын
So what if Alicent is a narcissist? Rhaenyra is the bloody heir to the throne and does nothing to show that she deserves to sit on it. A crown isn't a random headpiece. The crown and the throne come with duties to be performed and she showed absolutely no interest in performing them. Spoiled entitled brat she wants to do as she pleases, racking up the consequences of her actions and not wanting to face them.
@alanaatkinson551
@alanaatkinson551 2 ай бұрын
@@Kryptopathic Except Alicent isn't a narcissist though. Manipulative yes but not a narcissist. That title goes to Rhaenyra.
@elizabethl3092
@elizabethl3092 2 ай бұрын
you better not be a daemon supporter then
@sevenkingdomz
@sevenkingdomz 2 ай бұрын
shoutout daemon
@joyceadlaw6807
@joyceadlaw6807 2 ай бұрын
Respectfully i don't share thesame point as you do but i dont see any malice toward her and your cliams doesn't fit to the narrative.
@blanketwodahs6741
@blanketwodahs6741 2 ай бұрын
Apparently you missed the bits where both Rhaenyra and Laenor admit that they tried to have children themselves, in order to do their respectful duty as it seems you are completely miffed about. Or at that point were you too busy blindly hating on her for being a young human being and making the same mistake young human beings have made since the dawn of time: having sex?
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 2 ай бұрын
I don't think she and Laenor has exhausted every option they had. Sure f*ck Harwin but don't have kids with him.. three times!. There are apparently black people in Driftmark in the show, why not have one of them knock her up?. "The hair ain't white, but hey!, the complexion matches that of their father". She surely had no problem unaliving one so that Laenor can flee, and She and Daemon can get married. "...blindly hating on her for being a young human being and making the same mistake young human beings have made since the dawn of time: having sex?"... just f*ck off with this argument. She's not a modern woman living in LA in 2024 with a dad that's just a regular guy.
@thibautisserant
@thibautisserant 2 ай бұрын
He points out many more things than the bastard issue. And he also addresses how she behaves *after* their birth. Or at that point were you too busy blindly hating on him for making a critical video about a character you like ?
@blanketwodahs6741
@blanketwodahs6741 2 ай бұрын
@@thibautisserant "how she behaves" - which is nothing at all like a "narcissist", I am not sure he knows what that word actually means. scene after scene after scene Rhaenyra demonstrates care and consideration for her children and others, which is absolutely not what a narcissist would do. anyone who cannot see this is blinded by something. what little we know of book rhaenyra is more of a narcissist, but TV rhaenyra is not.
@blanketwodahs6741
@blanketwodahs6741 2 ай бұрын
@@thibautisserant I cannot fathom how people critical of TV Rhaenyra come to the conclusions they do, I can only assume that this criticism comes from mistaking strength and self agency for bottomless and exclusive selfishness. Which it is not. Or that "duty", "family obligations" and "social norms" are only shirked by the "selfish", as if these things are universal constants beyond question, and not, in fact, arbitrary creations by other human beings.
@sevenkingdomz
@sevenkingdomz 2 ай бұрын
you really believe you cannot be a narcissist if you “demonstrate care and consideration for your children?” you do realize there are different types of narcissists, it does not only have to be parental lol.
@joeypurp8179
@joeypurp8179 2 ай бұрын
This is some real grade school media analysis right here. With a tinge of misogyny sprinkled on top for good measure, well done
@sumonahmedrasel9842
@sumonahmedrasel9842 2 ай бұрын
Careful! never point out anything problematic about a woman, Otherwise this paragon of virtue will strike you with his holy judgement.
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737
@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 2 ай бұрын
@@sumonahmedrasel9842 or just slap you, like Rhaenyra did lord Bartimos "the mansplainer" Celtigar. Or "caress" you, like she did her employee after she just confided in her about her father's SA on her.
@sumonahmedrasel9842
@sumonahmedrasel9842 2 ай бұрын
@@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 🤣
@alanaatkinson551
@alanaatkinson551 2 ай бұрын
You have grade school level mindset 💀. It's not misogynistic to criticize female characters. Grow up.
@AlexScarpinato
@AlexScarpinato 2 ай бұрын
imo this whole video is a massive reach. most what you indicated as narcissistic behavior is just normal behavior if your put into a state of desperation, which is where she is at most of the time. she also didn't lie to alicent if i remember correctly, she swore that she didnt fuck daemon, not that she remained a maiden. could be wrong about that part though.
@hmm_1228
@hmm_1228 2 ай бұрын
Her state of desperation are borne out of situations she put herself in due to poor decision-making. Having bastards for example. She wouldn't have to constantly fight tooth and nail over their legitimacy if she simply slept with someone who actually looked like Laenor. Like the dude literally has cousins. Why Harwin? Vaemond then gets killed because of her reckless lies, desperate to wriggle out of another box she made for herself. Then there's ordering Aemond's torture, same thing. Alicent asked if she slept with Daemon mainly because sex out of wedlock is death for a woman in Westeros. So her asking if she slept with Daemon is the same as asking "So you're not a maiden anymore?" Yeah she didn't sleep with Daemon but she's no virgin. So she still lied at the end of the day. If she didn't, why did Alicent's trust in her completely disappear after Criston revealed the truth?
@aria_okami_
@aria_okami_ 2 ай бұрын
She never ordered Aemonds torture that's something a lot of people are clinging to but I'm pretty she meant it to literally have him questioned or as a scare tactic to get him to tell the truth but she never said "Torture"
@hmm_1228
@hmm_1228 2 ай бұрын
@@aria_okami_ Rhaenyra ordered Aemond to be "sharply questioned" over her bastards. To be sharply questioned is euphemism for torture in ASOIAF. Here are some examples from the books: "Then he sent his Kingsguard to seize his squire, Prince Viserys. “Chain him in a black cell and question him sharply,” Maegor commanded. (...) After nine days of questioning, he died." "“None, this one grieves to confess. We beg your pardon.” Mercy, thought Dany. They will have the dragon’s mercy. “Skahaz, I have changed my mind. Question the man sharply.” “I could. Or I could question the daughters sharply whilst the father looks on. That will wring some names from him.”" I doubt any of these examples meant asking normal questions.
@alanaatkinson551
@alanaatkinson551 2 ай бұрын
@@aria_okami_ "question sharply" means torture in that era. That's why it robbed people the wrong way.
@marissanorth85
@marissanorth85 2 ай бұрын
Yall are insane lol bring that energy for alicent
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