"Olympic Sniper Turned Battleship Commander Willis "Ching" Lee" | Kip Reacts to The Fat Electrician

[@collinfulling3223]

The damage to his eyes wasn’t a disability: it was the devs realizing he needed a nerf before the game launched

[@DeathAngel11b]

W take

[@kabob0077]

Still busted even with the nerf then.

[@dakotajohnson4229]

Friggin based.

[@dakotajohnson4229]

@@kabob0077 Those team accuracy buffs are still wild, though.

[@m3tr0id86]

He's not using an aim bot, he is the aim bot.

[@jeffjag2691]

“If you’re going to kill the king, you best not miss” Ching Lee

[@burnerheinz]

"Hail to the Ching baby"

[@chrismaverick9828]

One of Lee's methods was to learn everything he could about something, and then make it better and/or more efficient. To do this he would often go to the sailors trained on the equipment and learn everything they knew FROM THEM. A Commander, Captain, even Admiral coming to the enlisted men for a full-course study on their equipment! He was THEIR student for that time. Then he'd go off, think about things, and start making changes. He'd personally teach the crews how to do better and because they knew he listened to them, they respected his input and were excited to make the changes, especially after they started to pan out to incredible effect. Truly one of the great leaders of men, having skill, patience, and that connection to his subordinates that made them want to follow him to hell and back.

[@FluffehStuff274]

29:30 Arguably the reason he got away with it, besides his entire chain of command loving him, was the fact that his superiors sent him there specifically to tear through the BS red tape.

[@pramusetyakanca1552]

if even Top Brass was hating on you, you know you're doing some fucked shit

[@stephencooper1012]

@@pramusetyakanca1552 the us won ww2 in spite of the ordinance department

[@ShiningDarknes]

"I'm sorry you feel that way but the main character is coming through and as NPCs and background characters it is your obligation to drop everything you were doing and cater to my every whim because I am objectively right, the script says so."

[@InstrucTube]

Those phrases are basically the precursors to "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". Seriously the most important thing for accuracy is to not be hasty. Also greatest quote of all time. "Because 2024, am I right?" - Kip, 2024

[@chrismaverick9828]

It's pretty long but you should take a look at Drachinifel's video on the Mark-14 torpedo. His humor placed sporadically is pretty much the only thing that calms the viewers enough to keep from destroying their rooms in a fit of latent transposed rage originally issued by the sub captains.

[@aaronhenley4741]

Agreed

[@ShiningDarknes]

Yeah the fucking WW2 torpedo debacle was crazy to learn about, especially considering every single captain reported how shit the torpedoes they were given were performing and bureaucrats refused to believe any of them.

[@MephiticMiasma]

failure is like an onion

[@leechowning2712]

When kipp did not react to the name bureau of ordinance I knew he had missed that video. Those of us who know... Yeah no.

[@voraciousblackstn]

You want to know how bad the bureau of ordinance was? The last thing they did was the M14. The battle rifle that lasted 5 years because the rifle it was up against was so much better that Special Forces just went out and bought their own before deploying to Vietnam. Not with unit funds, just bought their own. The AR-15 put it to shame, and they had to fast track the M16 into service so much that as they were fielding it they were constantly making modifications and variants. There were like 20 different M16 derivatives used during Vietnam. The bureau of ordinance was scrapped right as Vietnam started. McNamara made 1 good decision with that. Also, Fluck, TFE's editor, used to edit for The Unsubscribe Podcast which is Eli Doubletap's podcast. Fluck knows the audio setup.

[@RaderizDorret]

That was US Army Ordnance Corps. BuOrd was another beast entirely due to them being in the Navy to the point that Kelly Johnson of Lockheed fame said he'd rather starve than do business with them.

[@optoclawonline9326]

for a sec i thought you said, 'fuck the editor' like the guy was an asshole. it took me a second read before i realized you were talking about fluck

[@firestorm165]

Pro gamer move of the week: Putting the MP5 on the tax write off couch Also you absolutely need to watch Drachinfel's vid on the Mk14 to really get the full context on the Bureau of Ordnance

[@Director_Orson_Krennic]

Ah, I see that you, too, watched that episode of the Fat Files lmao

[@dangarrett8676]

Huzzah a man of culture

[@stephencooper1012]

or some of the chieftains videos he did at tank fest and a couple others about the m26 p(ile of shit)ershing

[@dangarrett8676]

My only issue with TFEs video is that he failed to mention Lee's most impressive accomplishment: Ernest King liked him. The same man who's daughter said something along the lines of "I don't know why people thought my dad was temperamental, he only had the one temperament"

[@phildicks4721]

I think I heard it was easier and took less time to name the people and things Admiral King liked than what he disliked.😉

[@haganhailey5785]

Another thing that’s probably less important to lees story but the South Dakota’s engineers had cut power to the main guns to try and fix something I believe. So when the battle started they panicked and rushed the power to the main but shorted it out leaving them with only their 5 inch guns. Lee and his ship saved them from getting an absolute beating. (They thought they had time to fix it because there was no radar contacts but a rain swell and covering islands hid the approaching ships)

[@dangarrett8676]

@haganhailey5785 what's actually kind of sad about that is the issue that caused that cascade failure had a standing order ALL the people who would have been working on would have known to not do what they did. To paraphrase a joke I heard about the whole thing "I wonder where that officer ended up." "There's a reason no one knows"

[@Norbrookc]

Drachinifel has a video on Admiral King, titled "Semper Irratus." (alwasy pissed). King was one of those geniuses who was exceptional at anything he decided to do, but didn't have a lot of patience with those who couldn't keep up. A good part of why he liked Lee was that Lee was just as able... albeit a lot nicer.

[@dangarrett8676]

@Norbrookc I'm pretty sure it was Drachs video on King I heard that comment about him. One interesting thing was his absolute hatred for the British, unless my brain overplayed everything I've heard

[@danielseelye6005]

Drachinifel's "Mark 14" Failure is like Onions Nuff Said.

[@niftynetty0129]

"How much trouble would you get in....?" He probably thought that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is permission lol

[@kevinworytko1099]

31:21 "We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing." -FBI/CIA/ATF etc

[@InstrucTube]

At 27:00 your rant is absolutely correct. Meritocracy is 99.9% of the time the correct choice. The only time I could see someone logically choosing someone with worse credentials is if they trusted that person, and they needed someone in that position that they could trust more than they needed someone who could do the job better. Even then, that's not going to happen too often.

[@josephfoster5593]

Even that is meritocracy, you’re just prioritizing trust over technical knowledge

[@crippledbox1162]

Here’s something I’ve only just now been thinking about, I’m always in favor of promoting based on merit, especially in government, if your good at something I’m going to pick you over a friend of mine. But more recently it’s come to my attention that the people that are really good at what they do, especially in government, are more often then not absolutely terrible people, just look at the US government for example. It’s just horrible, in a situation like this that my country has found itself in for the past decade and an half, I’m actually more in favor of promoting based on trust then merit, because at least you could trust the people who you actually know, not so much the people that are good at what they do.

[@aniowaclassbattleship7257]

What made Lee’s death poetic was that he died onboard another battleship; the USS Wyoming (BB-32) off the coast of Maine.

[@ColtonRMagby]

Treating each individual gun in a turret as a stand-alone gun either is currently standard procedure, or SHOULD be. This tactic makes the entire turret more accurate when fully functional AND when there's a malfunction somewhere.

[@StonedDragons]

I don't think any current US vessel has more than one gun per turret, or for that matter more than one gun total not counting CIWS.

[@Argyle117]

So that second studio was actually nick’s friend’s studio for the unsubscribe podcast which nick, Brandon Herrera, donut operator, and of course Eli are all hosts on. If you haven’t already, please by all means do yourself a favor and least listen to them while you’re editing videos or on a road trip or something. They’re absolutely hysterical. Also the reason why the audio is so great is because Eli is actually literally autistic about sound, color, and camera quality at his studio.

[@militaryman815yt5]

1:17 the tax deduction MP-5

[@dekulruno]

The reason they wanted the proximity fuse to reliably detonate before using it was because they didn’t want an enemy plane returning home with an unexploded shell and give them the proximity fuse tech. It has a reason but not using it would have also been pointless. Now a couple decades later we shot an enemy plane with one of the new sidewinder missiles and it failed to explode and got lodged inside, and within a short time the Soviets were making exact copies of the sidewinder missile…

[@catgath9718]

As a civilian, my gues educated by osmosis, is the military promotion requirement changes in waves as staff and clicks retire. Supply and demand. Include the lazy boss.

[@script_crafter]

Okay Kip, let me give you a resounding THANK YOU for bringing up the fact that a LOT of people will think you’re super smart and talented but as SOON as you tell them “yea I’m Autistic” or something along those lines the aura and how they treat you as a person *changes hard* I’m autistic, I’m heavily into writing / English language / vocabulary / linguistics / foreign languages, and to toot my own horn a bit my English language arts and writing scores on my ACT were top level college scores, as soon as I show ppl my writings and stuff they generally love them, but as soon as I tell them I’m autistic the entire feeling of how they perceive me goes wrong, they feel weird about you being competent or good at this thing, the perception of “this person is really really smart” or “this person is really good at [xyz]” DIES THEN AND THERE. It’s genuinely awful, and I hope someday that being good at something because it’s a hyperfixation or special interest earns you a leg up and promotion because of your skill and not a secret disgust or the inability to move up in your field…

[@M1911Guy]

Awesome reaction, a great watch! This man was a hoss, being able to continue with a gun blowing up is amazing. If I remember matches correctly I think handguns at the time were all based on military service weapons. Iron sights and standard grips, ball ammo, so he could probably use a buddies with no problem. That aside, that man is something else.

[@Ratkill9000]

One thing Nic left out was, Willis Lee was a descendant of General Robert E Lee.

[@LanceCorporalHawk30]

So that makes him one of my relatives. Cool!

[@boodstain]

Probably because it’s not something to be proud of

[@Ratkill9000]

History isn't all rosey, theres truths in there that should be talked about regardless of how may feel. Its supposed to be uncomfortable so mistakes aren't made again.

[@joshbull623]

​@@boodstain Acknowledgement and appreciation for progress and growth from where you came is not the same as pride.

[@ColtonRMagby]

He was WHAT? At least he was related to someone who was willing to fight for what they believe in.

[@RaderizDorret]

Kip, I recommend both Drachinifel's video on the Mark 14 torpedo and Small Arms Solutions' videos on why he hates the M14 and what happened to the M16 in Vietnam.

[@FeyTheBin]

Man absolutely dominated as a strategist, a tactician, and as a grunt.

[@arthurmoloch]

He's just standing there....MENACINGLY!

[@mallry1]

Those interested in learning a little more about ching lee the channel drachinifel has a video about him where he does go a bit deeper with his service in ww2 and he also has a video on the mark 14 torpedo and the battle where lee bitch slapped the kirishima Also there is a audiobook on audible called battleship commander life of willis a lee by Paul stillwell it is over 12h long tho

[@LcplAnimeGuy]

I'm surprised that TFE didn't use "another day at the beach" cutscene from Halo 2 and just put Lees face on all the ODSTs because that's what it reminds me of 25:02 Basically BuOrd these are the guys are the reasons why the Pacific theater was a fucking nightmare of Chain of command. They made the MK14 Torpedos and did little to no testing on it and just claimed it worked. There was a officer from BuOrd who SAW his Torpedos and blamed his crew for incompetence when literally EVERYONE is telling this MF that he's stupid and that they don't fucking work. These guys are the best friends of the Japanese by accident because there incompetence was well known. One officer was known to tell both the BuOrd and Burro of ships "Get on BuOrd ass to give us weapons that actually fucking work or give us submarines with the ability to RAM the ships were targeting because our weapons do literally NOTHING" There was even reports of submarines that didn't report back because the Mk14 Torpedos just exploded when the submarines tried to launch them because the Japanese didn't even know they where around at all if they were nor any records of them destroying submarines So on top of not working they had the problem of spontaneously combusting in the Torpedo tubes of submarines. They got disbanded in the 50s and got absorbed into another navy organization because nobody trusted them Hell even in the 60s-90s the Torpedo technicians would put Torpedos on triggered fuses because they where taught by the older Submariners to never trust any weapons you have because of the sins of BuOrd. BuOrd is absolutely hated by everyone even today people hated BuOrd because WW2 in the Pacific theater could have ended sooner than later

[@Qballl]

Ahhh yea something to look forward to when I get off work or go on break

[@ealtar]

i was waiting for the new h&k MP write-off

[@Ratkill9000]

That tax write off MP5. I wish life was that nice.

[@animeyhem9780]

Three words to encompass the legend of Admiral Willis 'Cheng' Lee: Man, Moment, Machine.

[@richardkim3652]

Lee was the first Red Cell SEAL Team basically lol

[@Director_Orson_Krennic]

Eyy! Been looking forward to this reaction from you. Let's gooooo

[@markbowerii7632]

Holy shit, Ching Lee with a Barett 50 cal would be almost as scary as Jay Zeamer carrying Fat Man or Little Boy in Old 666.

[@CCIPres]

The 'hey, give me your pistol' then finishing the match reminds me of when Milspec_Mojo grabbed a Sig mag off of Garand Thumb's belt and fed his Glock with it.

[@spooknukem1177]

The best accuracy I've had was at a range of 800 yards and I got a score of 58.2 out of 60 I dropped two points and got two bull eyes witch at the range I shoot at is about a 2 inch area

[@koosh138]

Speaking on the accuracy quote, that seems to have been developed into 'slow is smooth, smooth is fast.' Basically, if it was done right the first time you wouldn't have to keep trying. This was drilled into my head the day my NCOs decided to kill 4 hours by practicing mag changes.

[@k.j.uptegrove3876]

it is now known as sea systrms command i believe.

[@grantharriman284]

The proximity fuse is actually a really good comparison to breaking enigma. Once the british broke enigma they had to work really hard to keep the germans from finding out, so they told basically nobody about it. By the same token, throughout the entire end of the war, not only the Germans, but even the rank and file soldiers and line officers on the side of both the US and our allies were not aware of what proximity fuse ammunition was. It was labeled as VT and they were told it stood for "variable timing" to be intentionally vague, and the allies were thoroughly paranoid that the Germans would find out what they were doing and copy the technology. Air support was a huge deal for the offensive in Europe, and if the German air defense was using this, it would have been a LOT harder.

[@KipReacts]

100%. It's interesting to think about the information being so valuable that they could only utilize it incredibly sparingly. Even if it would have saved lives.

[@doyourbest_uwu]

Sabaton should make a song about Ching Lee.

[@jadenkarnatz5292]

As with most things navy history, if you want more info on admiral Lee's story, drachinifel has a great video on him

[@joshpetersen5968]

I've signed my name in Hebrew, so I can definitely sympathize.

[@erikwilliam1254]

Feels weird watching a former fellow Idahoan. Me being the former as I was born and raised in Idaho for 30+ years and moved to Montana a year ago. I don't miss the Boise, Nampa and Meridian traffic that my formally small town of Payette has got more traffic, that when i came to visit a couple months ago, it felt like I was driving in Boise on the I-84 in that small town i grew up in. 20 years ago, hardly any traffic, and it was quite. Now it feels like driving in a small run down city.

[@legionx4046]

Yep out of sheer badassery you just win 🤣

[@trevynlane8094]

At the time he won his gold medals, the US Navy issued a .38 revolver as the standard sidearm. The M1911 was new and prioritised for Army and Marine units. The rifle was the same Springfield model for all of them.

[@kabob0077]

36:03 The energy behind this rant is just too good.

[@KipReacts]

This whole video was absolute gold.

[@omegax9345]

Love these reactions

[@crocadillius6418]

He was such a badass in the middle of WWII only his own heart could take him out.

[@jayloeffers8223]

Kip I'm a new subscriber I really enjoyed your viewpoint and your breakdowns

[@KipReacts]

Thank you. I often times feel like I have nothing to add.

[@johndunkelburg9495]

If you liked The Fat Electrician’s video on ‘Red’ Ramage, then you might want to react to Drachinifel’s video on the multiple failings of the Mk 14 torpedo itself and just how big of a bureaucratic nightmare the Bureau of Ordinance really was.

[@trentthehehim3936]

Careful Kip you’re sounding like Rycheck from Star Ship Troopers. “Citizen protects the body politic, a civilian doesn’t” 😂👍🏻

[@skylersmith9465]

The thing with black powder is having no air gap between the bullet and powder. The round that blew Lee's gun probably had too little powder in it. Unlike smokeless which can have air gaps, though can be dangerous if loaded too light. Reloader's say "I'd rather you load too much than too little", because too little means it all burns at once, and fast. This creates a pressure spike, and sometimes boom.

[@varnasblade]

Oh I assure you Eli would never let the audio be off. He is all about film.

[@Inny1984]

Drachinifel Made a Video about the Mark 14 if you want to know how much they fucked up and how bad the torpedo was, it is called Mark 14 - Failure is like Onions

[@carbonwolf3865]

13:05 this reminds me of what Warden in Rainbow 6 Siege says "prone gets you home. There's a reason why nothing rhymes with rushing in like an asshole."

[@markbowerii7632]

Hey Kip you should react to Nick's latest video about the Old Basterds. Awesome story about a group of middle aged chads that proceeded absolutely wreck every enemy force they came into contact with in the Pacific theater, so much so that their division routinely had better than a 10-1 KDR. Such a good video and one of my new favorites from him.

[@LWolf12]

I'm not sure if you watch Drachinifel or not, but he has a good deep dive into Willis Lee, it's more biographical but it's interesting. Even as an off channel on your own time watch I recommend it.

[@MarcusBumgardner-d4e]

Your commentary if freaking awesome... got me rolling laughing.

[@ShiningDarknes]

16:00 Truly, he realized he was the main character and donned his plot armor. Insert Morpheus "he's beginning to believe" meme here.

[@spudsdj8384]

Finally finished the video from FE and now time to watch yours. I blame you Kip im intentionally watching his videos late so i can then watch yours after

[@DragonSlaya817]

While this was an important battle, The last battleship on battleship action was during the recapturing of the Philippines, south of Leyte but it was with older ships damaged during Pearl Harbor

[@chriscalvin5083]

Great reaction video kip

[@geoslim2168]

27:25 thankfully the BuOrd is no longer around. It's functions were transferred to the Bureau of Naval Weapons in 1959. It was around for 97 years.

[@MarrockV]

"Slow is smooth and smooth is fast."

[@tristenparish2783]

I actually went through MEPS about 5 months ago; glasses, little overweight, but passed those tests just fine. Unfortunately, my inherited blood pressure disqualified my ability to join the military.

[@KipReacts]

Ouch. Preexisting conditions can be rough. I'm sorry that was the limiting factor for you.

[@FargothsSecretHidingPlace]

I know 2 people who served in our military but were discharged when it was found out they were colourblind. Neither even were in a position where that should really matter. (office/paperworker) shame since they were quite happy in their jobs.

[@typeoddnamehere2362]

On his Olympic achievements: there's been only two people that have actually surpassed Lee's medal record, and one of those people has done it twice.

[@ClancyWoodard-yw6tg]

This guy is literally a real-life version of Hawkeye Pierce from the show mash

[@UndeadJohnGaming]

Homie was the full definition of "But did I ask?"

[@drewholmes7356]

WWII gave birth to the people that we call, “he’s HIM.”

[@studentofhistory718]

Know im a lil late but for more reference on the bureau of ordinance see drachinifel on the mark 14 saga

[@StonedDragons]

Should do a reaction on Drachinifels video on the mk 14 or on the 2nd Pacific squadron.

[@KipReacts]

I'm changing up how I do firearms content going forward. I'm not sure if I'll still be doing reactions, but it's something I'm open to if there's enough interest.

[@StonedDragons]

@@KipReacts His content is less firearms and more general naval history, with an extra helping of dry British humour. Super dry British humour in those two episodes in particular.

[@Darkaddict20]

Finally waiting for you to do this one. I know I'm late. Busy. Thanks.

[@KipReacts]

You're fine! Life gets hectic, your time is precious.

[@Darkaddict20]

Thanks.

[@sethzsembery8432]

That mp5 just became a tax write off since it’s a prop in his video, that’s the way to get the government to pay for your guns😂

[@KipReacts]

Fact. Something I may or may not be taking a page out of his book on. My model does come with its own inherent green screen after all.

[@iansullivan5829]

The ordnance bureau was mainly filled with political appointees or old timey navy folks.

[@dramspringfeald]

11:00 as former SCA.... Bet kid.

[@greggwilliamson]

I operated Bulldozers and Excavators and would teach people by telling them: "Do it correctly EVERY time. Speed will come on it's own."

[@AB-gw6li]

What if you took a shot at someone and he just STOOD there! MENACINGLY! Ching Lee: Now what if he shot back? And he didn't miss.

[@theredrisen9520]

Love you kip!

[@mikearnold3450]

Its a safe Kip. Nothing like a fire arm

[@DiggitySlice]

Lowering the standards to get into the military =/= not being hard on someone who's already proven themselves because they do poorly on a techincal test. Ching didn't need "lower standards" he just needed a different way of proving his ability

[@TheLOOKOUTSquad]

The bureau of ordinance is the modern day version of the ATF and HOA's. PROVE ME WRONG!

[@blyarin5825]

As a security guard. If love a pay raise

[@jayloeffers8223]

I reject your reality and replace it with my own-Adam Savage

[@viktorgabriel2554]

can you imagine if we lived in a merit based culture and not a connection based culture

[@Thoraxe357]

So in conclusion: the only thing that could stop willis "ching" lee...is willis "ching" lee

[@thegrizzly594]

As someone who lost a very good slot in army aviation as a crew chief due to "bad eyesight" No it has not gotten better.

[@gothicpando]

Actual human turret.

[@dakotajohnson4229]

Gets the DeleteMe, takes advantage of the offer for free food, and profit while the company that is bout to make money off of my info has to delete it instead. Adapt, improvise, and overcome.

[@ForgottenHonor0]

Further proof that the best marksmen wear glasses. Don't ask me why, we just are.

[@scottmyers6441]

Unrelated to like 99% of this video. The Zenith ZP5 is pretty nice. I like mine, so if you make the decision to get one, I think you'll be happy with it.

[@awesome_by_default]

47:00 Bro literally pulled agro.

[@thedeadlydevils9130]

Funny thing about the mark 14 toros in war thunder when you use them it is a 50/50 chance the torp won’t explode talk about realism!

[@ChrisTheGhostHunter]

Would you say you have better aim than a Stormtrooper?

[@silbury2325]

about a decade ago facebook estimated the value of a single person's information at $12 a year. Why are we paying $6 a month to solve a problem caused by our unwillingness to pay for things on the internet?

[@KipReacts]

I really wonder how lucrative data selling is. It has to be worth it, but then again companies like Facebook and Twitter cannot sell me a product to save their life with all the information they have.

[@corvusgaming2379]

22:21 I'm that kid. I'm the kid that's way too smart for his own good at his age, that he's bored when the class is being taught. "Oh, we're doing such and such math that's hard for our year level? How about I just..." And I just get it done with no help. Edit 1: Yes, I am neurospicy. ADHD and Autism amongst other things.

[@vinacar]

it wasnt a Liberty safe was it

[@robrockstar9648]

For context by the time the mark 14 got used the guys who developed it had been promoted so they would refuse any evidence that it wasn’t the best torpedo ever made. (It was the worst model in the war)

[@alishahufford5786]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@vinacar]

no put acid in the food.

[@-Luna-tic.exe-]

If something is the meta and everyone begins using the meta... is it really the meta anymore since it no longer gives an advantage...