Kira Payer chases down a Kate Courtney QOM

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SAFA Brian

SAFA Brian

2 ай бұрын

Kira has been tearing up the Strava leaderboards in Malibu over the last two years when she is in California for winter training. Latigo is the climb in this video and porbably the most well known climb in the area. We filmed this in March last year.
I was in two minds when deciding to film this one, do I follow on the bicycle or bring out the moto. I knew my time up here was faster than Kate's QOM time, but I also knew how hard it was for me to get that time, I died a thousand deaths. I am very lucky I decided to bring out the moto because Kira blew past Kate's time by two minutes and past mine by a minute!
Her effort is rather deceptive because she is always in control and doesn't seem to be struggling that much, but I can assure you this is an incredibly hard push. It was really cool to watch the footage back and hear Kira tell the guys how she wanted things paced. Always in control and just under her limit. To put things in perspective there have been 94,885 attempts by 14,041 people on this climb, Kira is 30th overall.
Unfortunately my gimbal battery died close to the final summit, well short of what it should be able to stay alive for, but luckily I added a camera under Drakes saddle so we were able to watch the whole show.
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@berglandvideo
@berglandvideo 2 ай бұрын
1:41 Don't you just love it when a whole group overtakes you on a 10% climb at 3x your speed 😂
@zachwillow3947
@zachwillow3947 2 ай бұрын
I would've called it a day
@Gamebreaker08
@Gamebreaker08 2 ай бұрын
Why? He won't get better if he quits. That's a loser's mindset@@zachwillow3947
@Ifoldforweed
@Ifoldforweed 2 ай бұрын
he is coming back at the decent. I think its wholesome, Dad is getting back in shape.😅
@HardwareJoe
@HardwareJoe 2 ай бұрын
look at his chain.....
@SB-nh7uv
@SB-nh7uv 23 күн бұрын
@@HardwareJoe and the cadence
@coopercooper3860
@coopercooper3860 2 ай бұрын
My only question....did Kate get paced up the climb with a leadout train too? If so then fair game 😂
@jjwa5410
@jjwa5410 2 ай бұрын
She did not, actually. She did it fully solo.
@martyheck7351
@martyheck7351 2 ай бұрын
well that makes all the difference in the world@@jjwa5410
@altosmusiclab2248
@altosmusiclab2248 Ай бұрын
they say wrestling is fake but that guy jumped from the top rop to a table and broke it...
@jas_n
@jas_n Ай бұрын
we all play different games. style counts in my book too.
@dankswagbiking21
@dankswagbiking21 Ай бұрын
@@jjwa5410 She didnt do it fully solo, she had a leadout from Colin Strickland
@duathlete827
@duathlete827 Ай бұрын
Being pulled up by two men as you draft them the entire way seems to diminish the effort and negate the qualification for QOM. Previously a couple of folks have said the draft effect is minimal at lower speeds. Nonsense, let her do a solo effort and then. This is a "trio" of the mountain, not queen. As we all know, the QOM's and KOM's have all been diluted over the years because apparently, anything goes. Even riding a vehicles bumper is legal.
@FT__Cool_Stuff______-of5pi
@FT__Cool_Stuff______-of5pi 25 күн бұрын
Doesn't matter. It's times on Strava segments. Not an ITT. The good thing about Strava is it helps people have fun TOGETHER. (personally I wouldn't like people drafting a car like that though. )
@RobertJWaid
@RobertJWaid 2 ай бұрын
Great job Kira. Latigo was my favorite power climb and a fun decent. Thanks for letting me ride it again vicariously. Kudos for the editing by switching cameras and angles.
@johngrunkemeier4926
@johngrunkemeier4926 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your content Safa Brian,These videos get me through trainer rides.Always beautiful So Cali scenery.
@thanqol
@thanqol 2 ай бұрын
This is great! Finally someone going uphill
@mirama1990
@mirama1990 2 ай бұрын
Those shifting noiseses are soo satisfying ❤
@CatManDoSocial
@CatManDoSocial Ай бұрын
That was very impressive. Well done, Kira! Latigo is my favorite road so I will definitely be using this for indoor training. Nice job, Brian and pacers.
@liquidSpin
@liquidSpin 2 ай бұрын
She's like "please slow down" They're like nope. U gotta earn this one if we are going to help
@SingaporeUntold
@SingaporeUntold 2 ай бұрын
Actually they may know the pace to hold for the qom
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 2 ай бұрын
@@SingaporeUntold clearly since they over shot it by almost 2 mins...
@stevenmeyer9674
@stevenmeyer9674 17 күн бұрын
They did slow down.
@DrakeDeuel
@DrakeDeuel 2 ай бұрын
The Monarch of Malibu adding the crown jewel of the Santa Monica Mountains to her collection! 🤩 Epic riding
@user-gs3tq6bx2u
@user-gs3tq6bx2u 2 ай бұрын
It was a very well planned effort, she rode her heart out. Congratulations to her and her team on now holding the Draft assisted QOM .
@roadglide
@roadglide 2 ай бұрын
Phenomenal effort! Hoowee! Nice job ya’ll.
@cularu1
@cularu1 2 ай бұрын
Nice effort Kira! Safa you should make more KOM/QOM videos!
@josiahlomas2111
@josiahlomas2111 2 ай бұрын
Good job kira.. Safa I've been waiting for a upload like a junkie
@buraduri
@buraduri 2 ай бұрын
how do you get that live map and route on the overlay? very nice!
@hcadena3874
@hcadena3874 Ай бұрын
Anyone else was expecting this to be a solo effort? Like a TT?
@on2play736
@on2play736 2 ай бұрын
Hi, Safa Brian. Awesome video as usual and thank you for always bringing out the best videos as much as possible consistently. I also thank you for responding to my question several months ago regarding your camera you used but now I'm curious how you acquired the mapping feature on the right side of the video. Again, thank you
@onimurateru
@onimurateru 2 ай бұрын
Wow the rim brake and 25mm tire still on the road.Love it
@ccuellar6212
@ccuellar6212 2 ай бұрын
Rim brakes for the win.
@JordiMoll
@JordiMoll 2 ай бұрын
Rim brake bikes are the best. Love it.
@brentperez4700
@brentperez4700 2 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the adoration of rim breaks. I have rim brakes on my road bike. It’s terrifying.
@caspar_gomez
@caspar_gomez Ай бұрын
@@brentperez4700 lighter, simpler, cheaper, basically do the same job
@Mike_Stanford
@Mike_Stanford Ай бұрын
@@caspar_gomez After riding rim break for years and years on different bikes since i was 12, id never been on a disc brake bike...bought a disc brake specialized with nice size tires and good contact patch at 24 now...the feeling of barely pressing down and getting amazing linear brake force is addicting to me....especially in the wet.... i hopped back on my rim brake and it felt...scary.. like the other guy said lol
@kw4704
@kw4704 Ай бұрын
@@caspar_gomez Basically, until you have to stop 😆
@herculesdebrito5737
@herculesdebrito5737 26 күн бұрын
Safa, your vídeos are incredibles. Congratulations mané.
@gasolinewine801
@gasolinewine801 2 ай бұрын
Im going to assume Kate had a 2 man draft as well. Either way this was fun to watch. Makes me think of the chatter that goes on during a race.
@lexington476
@lexington476 2 ай бұрын
Nice team work.
@MKellyC
@MKellyC 2 ай бұрын
What app do you use to get the data overlay?
@CycoWarriorx
@CycoWarriorx 2 ай бұрын
Watching them climb this never ending climb at that speed got me winded…😂
@klausklaus2119
@klausklaus2119 Ай бұрын
They boys did all the work!
@gabebikes
@gabebikes 2 ай бұрын
Strong work!!
@SonnyDarvishzadeh
@SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 ай бұрын
Internet is full of clueless gatekeepers. "you must do this way", "that's not allowed", "we cycled this way for a few thousand years, that's cheating"..
@user-gs3tq6bx2u
@user-gs3tq6bx2u 2 ай бұрын
"Internet is full of clueless gatekeepers. "you must do this way", "that's not allowed", "we cycled this way for a few thousand years, that's cheating".." It's not cheating...it's just not the same as doing it solo with no drafting is it? It's a different category. She got the (drafted) DKOM, not the KOM and the two guys who rode in front should be listed on the DKOM on Strava. anyway, I hope she attempts this ride again....by herself without wind blockers and pacers.
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 2 ай бұрын
@@user-gs3tq6bx2u do you know a bit about aero.? the two guys may not be the main offenders
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 2 ай бұрын
@@user-gs3tq6bx2u that’s not a thing though and the person currently holding the QOM was probably in a pack too. People go out for KOM/QOM attempts with a 30 mph tailwind too. They’re meaningless. Compete with yourself.
@jermstaallen4913
@jermstaallen4913 2 ай бұрын
I don’t see an issue, she still had to pull those watts to do it, are some of you saying that every kom/Qom is done solo? The ones I’d be worried about is the kom/Qom that have been won on electric bikes
@timothyhuber5322
@timothyhuber5322 2 ай бұрын
That’s awesome Kira. Great QOM. And thanks Safa for making the video happen
@stevenmeyer9674
@stevenmeyer9674 19 күн бұрын
I think that Strava should make rules regarding how these times should be set. They should definitely be solo. If a time is broken in a race, there should be an asterisk at the very minimum.
@SAFABrian
@SAFABrian 18 күн бұрын
They have and there are no rules broken here. Try get faster and don't worry about those faster than you.
@beetroot6591
@beetroot6591 2 ай бұрын
well done!
@bartp.3509
@bartp.3509 2 ай бұрын
Too much hate in these comments,it's only Strava 😂
@stevenmeyer9674
@stevenmeyer9674 19 күн бұрын
Since when does legit criticism become "hate"?
@vadnevod7426
@vadnevod7426 2 ай бұрын
yaeee! Nice uphill video. More uphills pls
@markachternaam5207
@markachternaam5207 2 ай бұрын
It's the first time I watch a video like this: how is the motorcycle sound removed?
@daviddang82
@daviddang82 Ай бұрын
The mics are on the riders, not the moto
@m72a50
@m72a50 2 ай бұрын
Best video 💪💪 complimenti
@nogai8154
@nogai8154 2 ай бұрын
Nice video❤
@alainpryt9641
@alainpryt9641 2 ай бұрын
Top vidéo en plus avec des vélos équipe de freins patins top 👍 👍👍🦶
@graveldad
@graveldad 26 күн бұрын
Great ride 🎉
@kevinmcbride6961
@kevinmcbride6961 Ай бұрын
I'd be doing 8mph where you are doing 15 mph but, I'd still call you out for drafting the whole way even though I wouldn't be fit enough to do it
@Aiden.K
@Aiden.K 2 ай бұрын
This is what I’m looking for!! Not city ride in traffic hr:)
@taotracy4431
@taotracy4431 2 ай бұрын
whah! are you gonna b ok?? There there.
@alexkov1308
@alexkov1308 Ай бұрын
Hi Safa, why is still gopro 7, what u think about gopro10 ?
@danmartin9086
@danmartin9086 2 ай бұрын
LoL, draft the whole time is legit for a record?
@UnfilteredLifeStuff
@UnfilteredLifeStuff 2 ай бұрын
thats exactly what i'm thinking...even if the draft isn't as effective at certain gradients there's still a gain to be made surely!?!
@gabrielrpo667
@gabrielrpo667 2 ай бұрын
I can assure you almost all records on Strava are drafted or paced, specially famous climbs, cycling is also a group sport man
@krisorsmso5094
@krisorsmso5094 2 ай бұрын
@@gabrielrpo667 Yea but u dont go filming it and being proud about it :D it's pretty obvious that most records get broken during the big races etc..
@holinografias
@holinografias 2 ай бұрын
Yes it is.
@daviddang82
@daviddang82 Ай бұрын
@@UnfilteredLifeStuffit’s not just the physical draft, it’s being paced up and pushed by psychological draft. It’s easier to follow someone pacing you
@katysorrell5828
@katysorrell5828 Ай бұрын
❤ you, Kira!
@carlomiguelcantoria3962
@carlomiguelcantoria3962 Ай бұрын
the gimbal gave up before the end?
@SonnyDarvishzadeh
@SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 ай бұрын
It's kind of hard for the pacemakers to dial it down. That's a very concious decision. Maybe they could have a second head unit that's connected to her sensors just to avoid overreaching.
@user-gs3tq6bx2u
@user-gs3tq6bx2u 2 ай бұрын
"Maybe they could have a second head unit that's connected to her sensors just to avoid overreaching." Maybe they should have been holding a beach umbrella to really block the wind for her?
@Vuldrify
@Vuldrify 2 ай бұрын
Nice!
@ralphcope4227
@ralphcope4227 2 ай бұрын
Kira climbs beautifully.. and most KOMs/QOMs on Strava are drafted. Nice vid. Thanks, mate
@ccuellar6212
@ccuellar6212 2 ай бұрын
That’s why KOMs mean nothing.
@g2g2010
@g2g2010 2 ай бұрын
Why not have a car in front of you. Most KOMs/QOMs are not drafted. Props to her for the insane power but this is not a legit QOM imo.
@hanef8852
@hanef8852 2 ай бұрын
Most competitive QOMs on flat or medium flat terrain are DEFINITELY drafted and that's perfectly fine.
@hobbybaschtler7896
@hobbybaschtler7896 2 ай бұрын
Are there KOMs on flats? I thought it was "King Of Mountain"
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 2 ай бұрын
@@hobbybaschtler7896 it’s just the fastest through a segment. Doesn’t actually have to be a mountain.
@ApoRdz
@ApoRdz Ай бұрын
Great video! You could've added the time in live segment aswell! 👍👍
@MatthewBluefox
@MatthewBluefox 25 күн бұрын
Ohmigush, meow, Kira so cute and fast!
@FT__Cool_Stuff______-of5pi
@FT__Cool_Stuff______-of5pi 25 күн бұрын
On the climb segments it'd be great to see VAM (and remove mph if you need the space for it)
@ilsonrobertoabreupilenghi6498
@ilsonrobertoabreupilenghi6498 2 ай бұрын
Que beleza de treino parabéns
@user-ob2op9ky8v
@user-ob2op9ky8v 2 ай бұрын
Greetings from Belarus ! 🇧🇾🇧🇾 Cool 👍💯
@zeez4178
@zeez4178 2 ай бұрын
Hey Belarus ❤🤙🇬🇧👌🌹
@DheerajSingh-fk9ve
@DheerajSingh-fk9ve 2 ай бұрын
I checked the bike , man so expensive 🤯
@mrs3lfd3s7ruc7
@mrs3lfd3s7ruc7 Ай бұрын
🤔 To draft or not to draft? Impressive Watts, that's for sure. 👌
@paulgilliland2992
@paulgilliland2992 Ай бұрын
Impressive.
@PersonaN007Grata
@PersonaN007Grata 2 ай бұрын
This is like saying you climbed Mt. Everest when sherpas carried all your gear.
@andersonandrade912
@andersonandrade912 Ай бұрын
Vocês competem profissionalmente?
@stuartyb65
@stuartyb65 2 ай бұрын
Plenty Kom's are done during races and nobody bats an eyelid whats the problem here ??
@fraserherman8754
@fraserherman8754 2 ай бұрын
All the same gender in a race.
@ccuellar6212
@ccuellar6212 2 ай бұрын
KOMs are tainted and mean nothing.
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 2 ай бұрын
@@ccuellar6212 sure to a degree and there are plenty of cheaters out there but the in all the results reflect the riders' ability. meaning the faster riders will usually have the faster times. if you look at a guy with the most koms in the world, tadej could take all of them from him, maybe on some he will need help but if he tried to he could have the most koms by far because he's the best most well rounded rider. most ppl in the world dont have a top 100 kom leader in their area but even with clowns who collect koms like that, there are still so many out there that arent really competitive. koms mean less when comparing to others but you can compare your times which is what means the most.
@geomonkey
@geomonkey 2 ай бұрын
This isn’t a race and more importantly, the previous QOM holder didn’t draft her way to the top.
@attilarepasi6052
@attilarepasi6052 2 ай бұрын
The problem is the title really, it should be "2 guys and Kira Payer chase down a Kate Courtney QOM". But I guess that didn't sound so well to Safa either for some reason.
@razz5841
@razz5841 2 ай бұрын
I like how the motorbike camera man is fully protected from head to toe, but the cyclists are basically naked doing same speeds downhill.
@rjacko7478
@rjacko7478 2 ай бұрын
👍
@user-yp6og6xe3x
@user-yp6og6xe3x 2 ай бұрын
💪💪💪💪
@joseaugusto4923
@joseaugusto4923 Ай бұрын
Brasil. ❤❤❤❤❤
@AlistairLattimore
@AlistairLattimore Ай бұрын
Incredible effort from Kira! I don't have a problem with the lead out or drafting, I know it happens in general but I think in this instance it isn't fair since she is drafting two men. Kira is going for a QOM, it isn't a soft time, so it is unlikely she could find two women fit enough to draft behind the whole way since she is going so hard. If she was drafting behind two women, maybe they pull off the train half way and she needs to complete the rest solo. In this instance, she might as well be moto-paced which is against the Strava rules.
@antonionascimento5319
@antonionascimento5319 Ай бұрын
lindo vídeo e boa sorte
@johnconarty3762
@johnconarty3762 2 ай бұрын
First off phenomenal job, I will never in my life be able to climb a hill like that. My question is the person you took the QOM from, was she pulled along as well? If not this isn't a apples to apples and the other lady is still the solo QOM I think.
@DerAngriff
@DerAngriff Ай бұрын
apparently what matters to some here, is the record on Strava. Not the tricks to achieve it. I guess the lesson is to not worry about other Strava KOM's but rather, are you improving on the segment.
@thetpaing19y
@thetpaing19y 2 ай бұрын
I love her riding performance like pro cyclist. Thanks cameraman.
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 2 ай бұрын
Geez, this was just a small part of a much bigger ride.
@Richie-C
@Richie-C 2 ай бұрын
Less hate folks, only racing guys and top women will beat this time on their own. pushing over 260 watts pretty much all of the time is bloody strong. Well done and super riding. Ps love the rim brakes.
@MattQ1987
@MattQ1987 2 ай бұрын
KOMs and QOMs shouldn't count in group rides. Especially when you got male riders pulling you and giving you a draft. Should only be solo efforts or races.
@johnsteinberg3618
@johnsteinberg3618 2 ай бұрын
Also should not have a tail wind over 5 miles per hour
@erikdeitz9861
@erikdeitz9861 2 ай бұрын
You guys know they do put on real races, right?
@SonnyDarvishzadeh
@SonnyDarvishzadeh Ай бұрын
@@johnsteinberg3618 that's exactly the point. There are many factors next to drafting. What if air pressure was 10% lower? Tailwind you mentioned already. These angry riders in comments just pointing out at the draft without being able to draw a single conclusion what exactly counts as a KOM/QOM. Nothing is ever so pure and so fair.
@DDai-qd8uk
@DDai-qd8uk Ай бұрын
Only solo efforts or races. So you can get a tow up in a race but not out of a race. What an idiot.
@reinholdachleitner2069
@reinholdachleitner2069 27 күн бұрын
​@@SonnyDarvishzadehTrue,live is not fair but she is one fit woman.
@DanTuber
@DanTuber 2 ай бұрын
Is that legit QOM if you're getting drafted all the way?
@d0neall_
@d0neall_ 2 ай бұрын
No, pretty shameless if Kate didn´t draft herself
@lexington476
@lexington476 2 ай бұрын
All's fair on Strava.
@user-gs3tq6bx2u
@user-gs3tq6bx2u 2 ай бұрын
It would be excellent to see her attempt this again with a solo run.....those guys probably helped her by 2 ~ 3 minutes
@BadWithNames123
@BadWithNames123 2 ай бұрын
they do this all the time on the male KOMs too (drafting)
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 2 ай бұрын
As long as she's not on an e-bike who cares. Plenty of KOM/QOMs were done in a pack or with a 20 mph tailwind.
@erikdeitz9861
@erikdeitz9861 2 ай бұрын
If you want rules and fairness, enter a real race. This a legit Strava KOM. Because there aren’t rules about drafting. Kate Courtney probably doesn’t give a hoot about this QOM, considering she wears rainbow bands.
@Thepaperlad
@Thepaperlad 2 ай бұрын
Biking is a group activity. So much hate from a bunch of solo Strava nerds
@BlackVinylMusic
@BlackVinylMusic Ай бұрын
Amazing lack of snot rockets
@user-sz8qg7ci9f
@user-sz8qg7ci9f 2 ай бұрын
Going to say drawing, but seems I'm following a previous comment.
@nova_6867
@nova_6867 Ай бұрын
I Thought the cameraman was on a bicycle too 😂
@liamkaloy
@liamkaloy 2 ай бұрын
💪💪🚴‍♀💪💪
@76844
@76844 2 ай бұрын
Yikes. She drafted the entire QOM and then shared the evidence
@justgettingstarted2112
@justgettingstarted2112 Ай бұрын
Hmmmmmm.......sucking wheel up the climb seems questionable. Help us understand.
@mislevis
@mislevis 2 ай бұрын
1k like is from me. Nice pace, very enjoyable to watch. Too wide handlebar IMO.
@redist7201
@redist7201 2 ай бұрын
and where is the descent??!
@hockeyiscanada
@hockeyiscanada Ай бұрын
Rim brakes doesn't meen climbers bike, disc brake bikes have been as or lighter for years now
@spiffpilot2589
@spiffpilot2589 13 күн бұрын
The fact that the stated goal is a QOM and then you proceed to get paced by and draft two men just blows my mind. How do you do this, shoot a video of it, and then upload it and think it’s a good idea? I hope Kate is laughing wherever she is.
@SAFABrian
@SAFABrian 13 күн бұрын
Kate got lead out by a man too 😀
@charng
@charng 2 ай бұрын
the chain drop, sram or shimano?
@manuelwan2770
@manuelwan2770 Ай бұрын
Kira is probably 14yo. You are guys hating.
@user-og1hb6mv7x
@user-og1hb6mv7x Ай бұрын
A Triple Queen …
@user-qy9qb4rl6g
@user-qy9qb4rl6g Ай бұрын
Pelo pedal parabéns o kom era normal tirar pois kate um.dja volta ai para treinar e vai tirar😵‍💫👍👏🏿💪🚴‍♀️🇧🇷
@thomasglaser291
@thomasglaser291 29 күн бұрын
What about the random woman walking on the street on 16:57
@andreika7924
@andreika7924 Ай бұрын
крепкая девочка!
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 2 ай бұрын
i ride local to a top 100 kom leader in the world, basically any kom you click on he has. he pulls around a top female kom world leader. some of his times seem sus, like speeds that are pro level sprint ending races but no signs of other riders on the leader board. so like solo efforts 40mph for over 2 miles on flat. i guess its possible solo if the tail wind is crazy, and also in the middle of a 60mile ride with a high avg. speed. i also caught some of their segments done in a car as if they forgot to end their ride, but couldnt manage to see where they wouldve stopped to get on and off the bike and in a car. but so what, who cares, it doesnt make him or her any better or worse. i think ppl who complain wish they were more talented on the bike and have to find fault else where to help soothe their hurt egos. king of the mountain may as well be called king of the poo. bottom line is a good effort is a good effort, and power numbers usually dont lie.
@ryanpowell6244
@ryanpowell6244 Ай бұрын
Shes obviously strong. But that was lame. Pull your own self up.
@Tylergilmour857
@Tylergilmour857 2 ай бұрын
Look I don't know, but I feel like getting dragged up the QOM isn't really fair. Its like if a man went for a KOM with an bike E-bike in front. The draft would have been massive in places!
@FT__Cool_Stuff______-of5pi
@FT__Cool_Stuff______-of5pi 25 күн бұрын
It's not an ITT.
@UpcountryUltra
@UpcountryUltra 2 ай бұрын
It's wild that the norm now is just to get paced all the way to a QOM... Not the first pro female I've seen do it, but in my eyes its no different than if a male was to sit behind a car for a KOM, thus using a person/thing faster than themselves to minimize their air resistance...
@Unknown8938
@Unknown8938 20 күн бұрын
Those hate comments tho... i feel you depressed souls 😂
@ShamanMick
@ShamanMick Ай бұрын
Interesting use of "chases down" in the title. "paced up" might be more on point.
@willians5790
@willians5790 2 ай бұрын
Muito legal o pedal a paisagem, mais subir protegida de roda minimizando a ação do vento ai foi mancada, é o mesmo que subir atrás de um carro aproveitando o vácuo ou subir o Evereste nas costa de um Sherpa kkk, monte um grupo de mulheres e subam ai sim QOM! De resto pedal muito bonito!
@Andrey-2
@Andrey-2 2 ай бұрын
Не нравится ехать в гору - садись на мотоцикл)
@user-gd4ef1zq2v
@user-gd4ef1zq2v 2 ай бұрын
잘탄다~
@sherwinsalvatori6997
@sherwinsalvatori6997 Ай бұрын
I admit riding and watching a video is totally differant. Going 11mph on incline seem slower in real life.
@Hiasibua
@Hiasibua 2 ай бұрын
SAFA on the motorcycle?! Blasphemy!
@stevenmeyer9674
@stevenmeyer9674 19 күн бұрын
Since when is legit questioning-criticism hate?
@kimreik
@kimreik 2 ай бұрын
why not draft after a motorcycle, what's the difference at this point?
@drym3943
@drym3943 2 ай бұрын
But every single kom in France is owned by tour de France riders or local races. They are all drafted KOM... What makes it a bit wrong is that it's not the same gender.
@EstebanDVO
@EstebanDVO 2 ай бұрын
Should we erase all KOM done with the wind behind their back? What if they got to draft someone going fast but only for half the climb? What about the KOM done during a race? See how stupid you sound...
@abone2pick
@abone2pick 2 ай бұрын
U can only draft as long as u have the power to stay in the draft … stop hating bro
@kimreik
@kimreik 2 ай бұрын
I don't hate, I don't really care tbh. She did much more watts than I could. But, imho, using male riders to chase qom is pointless
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 2 ай бұрын
@@kimreikwhy? You have to stay in the draft. It doesn’t matter who is pacing you if you can’t keep up.
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