FULGRIM revealed for Warhammer 40,000, and he's PERFECT

[@tedtarrant7375]

I feel like the snake tail is no longer covered in scales from wear or tear, but simply changed to f e e l, to be able to experience things more with direct contact

[@Ayrton_Chitwood]

Devious thinking, likely true to be honest.

[@jamenbarker336]

It looks more like a worm to me. The skin is wetter and drawn tighter almost. It seems less perfect and more pathetic, which feels symbolic of Fulgrim's degradation to me. I love it

[@nate742]

You can get a sense of the passage of time in the two models. The HH is newly ascended and basking in its beatific demonic glory, whereas the 40k model is one that has given into his excess over the last 10,000, with no satisfaction and purpose. He missed his chance for the ultimate glory at Terra, and now all he has left is diminishing returns. Deranged and demented is an apt description of Fulgrim’s decline in that time between models.

[@calebolds9609]

God I love just how *distinct* this model is 30k Fulgrim is an ornate Snake Demon. 40k Fulgrim is a depraved *Serpent,* not purely a snake

[@HelioSolaran]

Rylanor gave that lad a virus bomb makeover and Fulgrim's never quite gotten that facade of humanity back since

[@cegesh1459]

Of course not, it's not anyone would take by choice. Humans are boring in fantasy.😂

[@daemonnexusknight]

I totally agree with your take here. The two models are both lovely, but they represent different times and forms of Fulgrim. Personally, I love the new model and think it really lends itself to Fulgrim losing himself to the Warp and his new form whereas the older model is more a split between the new form and old.

[@margaretwood152]

🤔Objectively, this model is reasonably decent (?) but it is in *_no_*_ way ** Perfect "*_ (it's a high 7 or low 8 out of 10 - *_Notable Minuses:_* The *Helmet, Hair* & that stupid (Slaanesh-symbol) stylized *Forehead Horn* are all notable *Missteps (-)* ** & detract away from the many +'s this piece. ) (▶12:47 BTW: GW Finally listened & gave the Community *_🩸🫀FLAYED-SKIN🫀🩸_* for 🎅Christmas🎄.....on ❄Christmas Day🎅. Yeah, that's what you want your Paying Customer to be on their top Religious Holiday of the year: *_" Deeply Uncomfortable. "_* ( Well done, GW. Really reading the room, as always. )

[@Blopusanian]

@@margaretwood152 How is the Slaanesh symbol bad? I like the design on this model. The only real complaints are the hair and lack of scales imo and maybe a few more faces.

[@michaelmoser7326]

Old one looks like a snake body, new one looks more like an eel or hagfish type thing, just "skin" instead of scaled.

[@margaretwood152]

🦀🤔"CRAB.....PEOPLE (!) CRAB.....PEOPLE (!)" It's a Snake-Crab Man-thing....what (?) It's fine." Objectively, this model is reasonably decent (?) but it is in *_no_*_ way ** Perfect "*_ (it's a high 7 or low 8 out of 10 - *_Notable missteps:_* The Helmet, Hair & that stupid Forehead Horn are definite (-) *Minuses* & detraction's for this piece. ) (▶12:47 BTW: GW Finally listened & gave the Community *_🩸🫀FLAYED-SKIN🫀🩸_* for 🎅Christmas🎄.....on ❄Christmas Day🎅. Yeah, that's what you want your Paying Customer to be on their top Religious Holiday of the year: *_" Deeply Uncomfortable. "_* ( Well done, GW. Really reading the room, as always. )

[@anotherzingbo]

Today is the day and this is the video where Kirioth says "feeling the helmet".

[@E123OMEGArobot]

I like the idea that the gape hole and the symbol are to cover up that Slanussy.

[@Kirioth]

Thanks I hate it

[@RobbieB2606]

Father Girthmas has been very generous this year

[@margaretwood152]

🟪⚔= 👍KIRIOTH thinks it's *_"Perfect:_* (un-ironically? III Legion = *_Perfection_*_ ...In _*_All_*_ Things_ ) Imagine all of our collective *_SHOCK(S)._* ( * I really think he's being paid &/or incentive-ized, at least indirectly, by GW at this point, he just doesn't critique anything anymore, everything is 11/10.....where is the objectivity? It's *_non-existent._* ) 🤔Objectively, this model is reasonably decent (?) but it is in *_no_*_ way ** Perfect "*_ (it's a high 7 or low 8 out of 10 - *_Notable Minuses:_* The *Helmet, Hair* & that stupid (Slaanesh-symbol) stylized *Forehead Horn* are all notable *Missteps (-)* and def. detract away from the many +'s this piece. ) (▶12:46 BTW: GW Finally listened & gave the Community *_🩸🫀FLAYED-SKIN🫀🩸_* for 🎅Christmas🎄.....on ❄Christmas Day🎅( *XX-Mas?* ) Yeah, that's what you want the vast majority your Paying Customers to be on their top Religious Holiday of the year: *_" Deeply Uncomfortable. "_* ( Well done, GW. Really reading the room, as always. ) ( ** I'm still giving Big *K* a 👍thumbs up BTW, not to worry: I obv. don't wish to be _uncharitable on *Christmas, *_ I just wish he'd be a tad-bit-more of a Critic, rather than {leaning towards being} just another GW-Gusher. )

[@DankApostle]

He is so perfect that his face became a meme within an hour

[@samueltitone5683]

I was worried the daemon Fulgrim from Horus Heresy would lessen the impact of 40K Fulgrim. Boy am I glad to be proven wrong!

[@joesheridan9451]

Tbh that’s exactly what it’s done for me. The HH is vastly better, the only thing this one beats it in is that it’s slightly more suitable for 40k and obviously it’s plastic

[@Frosty4427]

I love how he looks more like an eel than a snake in this version. That's exactly the weird texture I expect from a Slaaneshi daemon.

[@Bakroth85]

Dammit, the only thing I can think of after hearing your analysis is Fulgrim popping up in front of someone and going "Do these bangles make my wings look fat?" 🤣

[@BearPawSwipe]

HOWLING!

[@Coppertop777]

I'll say this, you have warm me up to the mini. I looked at that model and thought, "cheap imitation." But now I have a new appreciation for it.

[@samburton56]

I've been waiting for this.....

[@ayeewtasko2601]

In the article there is a promo video with a 360 of the model and the wings are indeed pulled back, and looks much better/more in proportion

[@stuartspencer2161]

I've seen the face of the 40K Fulgrim described as variations of Nicholas Cage with vampire teeth ("Renfield"). I do like the difference between the HH version which is the temptation, and looking angelic in a way, then the 40K variation, with corruption having fully set in.

[@philparis796]

My idea for a paint scheme for new Fulgrim: Pale, pinkish, veiney skin, especially on the snake tail. The 4th face, but with Heath Ledger's Joker make-up. Purple armour with gold trim and red gems. Black scales and black cloak with red on the inside. I cant wait to paint this hideously perfect primarch!

[@chinaman8888]

Been obsessed with trying to guess the stats for this guy ahead of the official reveals that will come with the codex. Leaning towards them giving him 16" movement with toughness 10. No ranged weapons at all, and possibly up to 3 melee weapon profiles with two of those having extra attacks.

[@keithmoore7629]

Oh dear ‘I’m not feeling the helmet’ is not a very slaanesh thing to say I’m sure fulgrim would love you feeling his helmet….😳😜

[@cultist1762]

I love how these two models tell a story. How when he first ascended he retained some of his mortal ideals of perfection and beauty. But after 10k years of spiraling depravity in worship of Slaanesh he devolved. Scales removed for soft flesh shows that perhaps he required more tactile sensations. The once awe-inspiring wings atrophied from a more sedimentary lifestyle. The once beautific features lost to apathy for self care over pleasure. Armor discarded in favor indulgence in pleasure from pain.

[@Tpunkzilla]

The amount of times I've refreshed your page just waiting to here what you're reaction would be lol

[@alphaleigpyne]

The WH40k Fulgrim reveal was a Christmas treat worth the wait, it'll be a matter of time until we see the rest of the EC models for next year release soon. Happy holidays Kirioth and a new year.

[@georgiots79.]

I like your analysis that the heresy model is Fulgrim with stuff still to do while the 40k one is him with plenty of time to indulge. I'm also no that thrilled with the slaanesh symbol basically stuck onto the exposed flesh. I've been thinking what i can do to make it more to my liking. Overall I think the model is very well done. Looking forward to getting it and painting it up.

[@AvgJoeHobbyShow]

The best way I’ve heard it is that an extra 10,000 years marinating in the warp tends to have...consequences 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ThePetrifiedkit]

that section is very hellraiser

[@S.A.S.H.]

The body doesn't look reptilian any more, now it looks aquatic. Idoneth influenced.

[@judgecohen1373]

Excellent review matey!

[@Revjiggs]

love the knew model. I think the lack of scales looks more demonics and less like a snake boy and in general its feels more like a Daemon. I think the HH models is awesome but one of my biggest problems with it was the fact that the wings were the saem size as the rest of the body.

[@autumnanxiety]

I think the helmet would look better if it was a hybrid between eldar/space marine and more on point canonically. I understand they wouldn't want it to be too indistinguishable from the dark eldar cos theyre their own thing. The wings kinda do look small from the angle from the Heresy model, also I think itd be cool if they had dangly chains from them. Its an amazing model though. I like the crab claw tail personally, it shows like his further degradation into daemonhood.

[@Jason-gq8fo]

You should watch the video in the article to see the wings?

[@Kirioth]

The vid embedded in the site wouldn't load for some reason 😞 Although now I think about it it'll be on KZbin That's on me, my bad

[@alexzima6963]

I LOVE that Helmet

[@BenjaminChapman-v6v]

He is going to a midlife crisis form armored snake to slimy eel

[@BearPawSwipe]

I have seen a lot of people unhappy with the new model and I don't get it. It is a great model that took the base and kicked it up even more. I love how the model combines machine, demon, & Fulgrim. They gave the newer model a lil AOS flavor too. I am definitely getting this one even though I don't do 40K. I am just a huge fan of Slaanesh.

[@bananaboy2373]

In other news, the emperors children have been caught snorting rubric marines dust in order to experience a new high

[@Brickerbrack]

Your ambivalence is _delightful..._ "I don't like it... but I _like_ it... I like it _because_ I don't like it..." 🤣 The helmet actually makes me think of a kind of corrupted Howling Banshee mask...

[@user-dn6oi6dt7U]

The HH Model is more dynamic.

[@rycolligan]

The new snake body looks… sumptuous.

[@maglorthearcanist]

It was a good slaaneshmas gift

[@Loloswaghetto]

Kirioth! Check the reveal trailer for the new Fulgrim, it showcases the wings more in 3d and they're a lot bigger than they appear in the 2d image!

[@chowell365]

I think ultimately the wings have to take a hit for the logistics of transportation. It won't look good if every assembled Fulgrim always has his wings breaking off

[@dairewoods2544]

It was Christmas and your birthday? Kirioth are you Warhammer Jesus?

[@mchavici1901]

Before (HH Fulgrim) vs After(40k Fulgrim) meeting Rylanor💀

[@matthewgnepper3201]

The old Epic model for Fulgrim has 3 swords and the whip.

[@thesgtgideon]

Really don't understand the hate towards this mini. It looks absolutely superb.

[@bretty167]

Common eldar L with Kirioth not at all noticing the focus on the eldar sword he's holding in the close-ups

[@AvgJoeHobbyShow]

The fact it makes people uncomfortable is a plus, elegance is one thing, that is the 30k model...But this new one? It’s decadence and depravity incarnate...Perfection 👌🏻

[@joesheridan9451]

I have weird mixed thoughts about him Ultimately I think the Heresy model is a fair bit better across the board. If you actually closely look at the armour and the amount of detail in it it’s incredible. The face, hair and horns are way better although I accept what people are saying that maybe it’s too beautiful for how he would look after all this time. The pose is also better. So I think it was always going to put them in a tough position to make a 40k one but they’ve done a solid job and a few things are better. I slightly prefer the fishy tail and crab claw on the end. I also think a whip is a great addition. Really the main problem I have with this new one is the face. He looks like a vampire and not a cool one. I think they really dropped the ball there. Also the hair is a bit shit and the horns are more bloodthirster looking than Slaaneshi looking. Ultimately I think the HH one can fit 40k fine you would just have to paint the face to look more disturbing than beautiful. If you can do that you have a better model even for 40k imo

[@guyman9655]

Honestly, GW is 4/4 on daemon primarchs imo. I cant wait for other daemon primarchs to drop, like perty or perhaps alpharius if GW wants to retcon

[@joetickle8304]

The HH one is too small the new one is king

[@thebloodymummer5502]

People are complaining about how "ugly" the 40k version is compared to the 30k version. I mean 10k years of space drugs and a Nuclear Virus bomb to the face will to that to a primarch...

[@MaxVEvans-nx5im]

Tbh when I saw it I was disappointed at first, I immediately thought "yeah the 30k one is better" lol, but looking at it more I think I like it more and more. I think its down to the pose, the 30k one, you have a better look at the scales, making it look more detailed, also the wings are better spread out (even though its a pain for gameplay I get it), and more armored. Still, the hairs and face are ugly with this one lol, maybe the face is just a question of paintjob tho. Still, overall didn't get the "wow" effect from me like all the other Daemon Primarchs, and will require a lot of kitbash to get it to my liking, but that's a project I'm ready to embark on, even the others I liked it way more I heavily converted ah ha

[@stretch3281]

19:17 not feeling the helmet!!! 😂 that's not very "Slanash" 😊😊😊😊😊😅😂 I will revisit this comment and make it worse 😙

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

The armour design on the 40k Fulgrim looks like it was designed for AoS

[@aidan-h3p]

They do seem to be taking design cues from the Hedonites of Slaanesh. Chaos aesthetics tend to be more unified across settings, so it makes sense.

[@drewfincher9070]

The only thing that’s not clicking for me is the hair, it looks too static and solid, angrons butchers nails have more shape and flow to them, and Khorne shouldn’t make anything more elegant than something slaanesh makes

[@Maverick5588]

Horus heresy version makes a lot more sense because the wings are proportionate. The new wings are way too small for the size of the rest of the model. I do like and prefer the body of the new model though

[@Lakefront_Khan]

The HH is a display piece, the wings for the 40k are sized for transport.

[@bluwlvrine]

I thought this too initially, but i think the wings are extending backwards instead of up so they are a little bigger than they look in the images

[@Loloswaghetto]

@@bluwlvrine They are, check the Warhammer Community reveal video for the miniature

[@GrunmearStoner]

The tail looks like a fucking eel. I am no fan of fish and I would rather have the snake Fulgrim.

[@Blopusanian]

This community has such babies. Literally so many people crying about the primarch models. This model is good. The only real complaints are maybe the hair and lack of scales.

[@drsh0ckalu]

Might need to look into the definition of perfect. The model is decent, but it ain't *perfect.*

[@Siegurd]

Hate the Nicolas Cage snek in servo with the badly animated 3d flat hair...

[@supervillainJ]

I think it looks kind of boring the symbol on the head is stupid imp

[@sumisuokami]

pointless money grab rubbish, plenty of 3d printed options out there cheaper than this.

[@StevenWhite-j9m]

The HH model is just better, too bad they did not just expand upon that...hate the new model

[@Marshmallox43]

I feel while the 30k fulgrim is a solid 7 out of 10 the new 40k fulgrim is a 4 out of 10 on a good day. The heads are a desaster, looks like my granny when she takes a dump. The only useful one is the helmet which looks way more likf khorne. The really nice snake likd scales from 30k turned now into a scaleless fish for some reason. The overall mini is a copy and paste of a trygon + keeper of secret with huge drukhari scourge wings. While the 30k one has a really nice armour it get really messy on this one. Looks veryweird from the front and almost insect like from the back. Also no idea why his arms seem to have different lengths or at least they look way out of proportion. The wings are the only really nice thing here. I would take the 30k fulgrim any day of the year, maybe switch the wings