KISS Full VIP Soundcheck At Little Caesars Arena In Detroit Michigan on 10/20/2023

Here is the full VIP soundcheck experience from KISS when they played Little Caesars Arena in Detroit, MI on 10/20/23. Enjoy!
01:55 Plaster Caster
05:30 Hotter Than Hell
09:30 Shock Me
13:40 Parasite
17:20 She

[@gareystenseth2937]

At this age you can't say anything about his vocals. He's brought us 50 great years! Rock on Paul!!

[@LROCKIN]

RITE ON

[@UgoFallavena]

Great performance . Kiss forever !

[@Calvin-Coohey]

Sounds great, just like KISS should sound, wouldn't change a single note. Thanks for posting the video.

[@jeremychaney1979]

Funny how Eric can actually play here. As opposed to the tight script type metronome drumming he has to do for Paul’s vocal tracks. So sad I never though my favorite band of all time would have turned into this 😢

[@glengamble526]

A metronome has nothing to do with ability.

[@sportsfix6975]

They're 70+ years old...I mean what did you expect...anyway, this video is pretty cool, cuz I couldn't pay tons of money for this..

[@AJLeonardo198]

@@sportsfix6975 Mas de 70 años pero trata de tontos a quienes lo critican por ocupar pistas y lo peor y patético es que lo niega, más aún ya que él y Gene durante años se dedicaron a tirar mierda a quienes ocupaban pistas de acompañamiento, pero lo peor de esto es quienes defienden a Stanley sabiendo la clase de persona que es, un egomaniaco, mentiroso, ha tergiversado groseramente la realidad, desleal con ex compañeros de banda, etc

[@sportsfix6975]

@@AJLeonardo198 no comprende..I can't understand spanish

[@brooklynbud1138]

It’s not his fault!

[@adamcorcoran7338]

You hear how Paul sounds when he is actually live. Then during the show his voice miraculously is good. But he's not lip syncing right? 😂

[@AJLeonardo198]

Lo peor es quienes encuentran que suena bien, es realmente penoso y patético el creer que para ser fanático de una banda hay que ser adulador, ciego y sordo

[@stemikger]

It's really apparent how Paul is struggling to sing. His vocal style is not easy and I can see how hard he is trying to hit those notes. December is their last show at MSG, he is barley going to make it. Not downing Kiss, I'm a huge fan and they are always will be my favorite band and personal idols, but you can't deny the truth.

[@Shelly-op1kx]

Yep. He is human.😊

[@kellyremple8982]

Who. Fucking. Cares?

[@eddiemuniz761]

The biological, digital, and analog clocks never stop ticking Father Time can and Will take you on just like it did to your parents and grandparents!!!Thank You Paul for the hope and belief that you inspired!!!! The next step down the road of your life is publishing a book of your illustrious artwork and opening a Rock n brews in New York City!!!!

[@thefonzkiss]

The concert is mostly lipsynched anyway. Makes no difference.

[@brooklynbud1138]

@@thefonzkissPaul is. Gene isn’t

[@SauerkrautX]

WHAT THE FUCK!? Where was this playlist during the actual show? I would've way rather heard these songs vs. what we actually got. Didn't even get Strutter which is insane

[@liveillusion]

Sydney got strutter

[@darrenflanigan2567]

strutter hasn’t been played in a while. Probably last years kruise was the last time

[@nickscarpelli546]

I’m doing the Soundcheck in Fort Worth tomorrow and Hollywood Bowl next Friday.. they are fun no matter what the spoilers who didn’t go say.

[@wdgaminganddisneyhistory6024]

@@liveillusion and Shandi but they ALWAYS get Shandi. Why can't they play it stateside lol?

[@sportsfix6975]

I watched the 1st show of this tour to see if I should attend when they came to Winnipeg..saw the same setlist as last time, so I passed....this is way better songs..

[@concernedcitizen5493]

With all Gene's money you'd think hed spend money on a real Wig like Paul wears instead of a dollar store Wig 🙄, just commenting for a friend 😉

[@michaelborgias5332]

Probably like you too…mouth breather

[@danrease7505]

😂

[@old-fashionedcoughypot]

Gene "Old PubeHead" Simmons. Actually going to see 'em tomorrow November 8 in Vancouver. Same sound check VIP package & floor tix. My buzzin cousin's treat. Looking forward to it.

[@ephebos1319]

I wonder if the VIP Soundcheck was 1/2 price since it was 1/2 KISS. 🧑‍🚀😼

[@sportsfix6975]

and did Ace get half the royalties for the playing of his songs and riffs? Lol

[@stemikger]

Paul didn't even say thanks for the flowers and he nixed the questions. I guess Paul is the boss.

[@billtrepkowski527]

There was a reason they didn't do the Q&A portion. I was there. In fact, I was front and center for this, and the woman who handed Paul the flowers was literally right next to me on my left when she stepped forward to hand them to him. Anyhow, what happened was they had played in Cincinnati the night before, and the stage was three hours late arriving to Detroit. That's why the soundcheck took place in the concourse rather than on the actual stage--the road crew was still putting the stage together. So this soundcheck was hastily arranged, and there was simply no time for the Q&A. There was no tour of the stage, no photo ops at Eric's drums (they did have Gene's bass and Paul and Tommy's guitars in the room where the Detroit Red Wings have their post-game press conferences, and you could take photos with those), there was no trying on of Gene and Paul's boots--and I was okay with all of that, because I'd done it all before in 2019, when the tour was barely over a month old (I got to hang out with the band backstage in the hallways of the arena, too). I thought that sucked for the people who had never had the opportunity to do any of that and paid to do it at this show, then didn't get to that night, but they didn't get screwed--I discovered a $500 credit from "KISS" on my credit card statement, and when I contacted Epic Rights and asked if this was to make up for all that stuff that was promised and DIDN'T happen, they said that it was exactly that: a partial refund for the portions of the VIP package that didn't occur. That's right, everyone--Gene gave the money back! I think the coolest part for me was, being that a high-ranking member of their entourage is a friend of mine, I wound up backstage as the crew was tearing it all down, despite the fact that my pass didn't give me that kind of access. I was the only attendee of the show that was there when the band was literally leaving the building. I spoke with Eric (he knows me, and signed a Pearl Drums hardware promo poster for me) and Gene. I did see Tommy putting his things in the car, and Paul arrived with Doc McGhee maybe but a minute before they left. Being that they had the next day off, I should have asked Doc if they could have hung around for three more minutes; maybe five. I saw Doc earlier that night and talked to him. He signed the Motley Crue book for me, too. He's always been great towards me. I can't complain, though. During the almost five years of the tour, all of the guys signed extra items for me at one point or another, over the course of the three shows I attended. That was supposed to be a privilege you could only get if you were buying a guitar, bass, snare drum, or microphone (and I just don't have the space for them, but I do have walls, and posters can go on walls, and I know people in the KISS entourage, so...).

[@nighthawk1428]

Why can't they do a tour like this? Smaller venues, random songs, impromptu unscripted stuff. Would be awesome.

[@OceanbornAngel]

Well...since they are no longer killing themselves touring they can do these kinds of events when they get bored and feel like it.

[@MasterSumai]

Gene won't have it because it won't make them enough money, as they are the Commercial Cash Cows.

[@gregjohnson298]

Any good singing from Paul at shows is clearly a backing track,his voice is shot.

[@dogcowrph]

If only Paul could sing.

[@MasterSumai]

If they could only play & sing!! Gene messed up big time on almost every song, Eric messed up too.

[@mmmetalwolf]

@@MasterSumai wrong

[@MasterSumai]

@@mmmetalwolf Well let's agree that you will disagree. I've been a musician probably longer than you've been alive.

[@mmmetalwolf]

@@MasterSumai Okey so? Its still a fan singing

[@MasterSumai]

@@mmmetalwolf Yea, but sounds horrible.

[@1974kizz]

5:30. "How bout Hotter than Hell? Easy to sing, right?" Uhh, not for you, Starchild.

[@josephlalock8378]

not really a soundcheck as they are not in the arena checking the sound.

[@ryanclark5254]

The stage wasn’t done being setup until 7:30 so The show started late. So they did this instead in the concourse.

[@mikaellofgren7]

I love to see Gene and Paul laugh it is so adorable having a good time after 50 years I love KISS

[@Lerxstification]

Not cool to play Shock Me. Fake Ace doesn't cut it.

[@LOUIS-np6be]

WOW!!! CRISP TIGHT DRUMMING BY MR ERIC SINGER!!!! WITH WORLD FAMOUS 🌎 SUPER INTERNATIONAL ROCK GROUP K I S S !!!!!WOW

[@vvvvinvasion]

louis i see you on every single kiss video i watch and i have to say that i commend your dedication to this band. i know its hard to tell tone over text but i am being 100% serious. i love seeing your name pop up in comment sections

[@LOUIS-np6be]

​@@vvvvinvasionYEAH LUV ALL OF THE KISS YEARS!!! ANY LINEUP !!

[@DanielC__]

Stanley has so much surgery he looks like a freak

[@LannyBenny]

Mr. Stanley, please make a mends with Mr. Frehley and Mr. Criss. A final encore with the original KISS would be great at MSG in December.

[@tt55899]

Dude let it go

[@chrisi123]

Paul loves to see Gene fail...

[@TheOfficerMahoney]

Love KISS! But Pauls wig looks like it weights at least 20lbs

[@danrease7505]

😂

[@pattalkstoparakeets2235]

Back for another comment. This performance is really impressive. It's so casual and also tight at the same time. Thanks for the recording and upload!

[@mojo_plasma]

They need to split Paul's songs up between Eric and Tommy. I bet most people would not mind at all as long as Paul was still on guitar. There's no shame in getting old!!! And Paul has had a career that people can only dream about.

[@bobbyKimball9999]

People paid for this? Oh man.

[@chrischoir3594]

band is tight here

[@LittleGlockLittle]

Genes always driving that cart

[@roberthaizlip4057]

Shock me solo was atrocious. He will never be Ace as much as he wants to be...

[@devinw5150]

Have you heard Ace lately? My God, he is horrible. Tommy can play circles around him without even trying and so can my first year guitar students

[@roberthaizlip4057]

@@devinw5150 Tommy doesn't even play the solos right. Ace does just fine still. Tommy couldn't form his own solo if his life depended on it. And he like ur students doesn't have the creativity Ace did to come up with all his iconic solos either

[@devinw5150]

@@roberthaizlip4057 Ace does not do fine now. He can hardly play at all and he never could sing. If I paid money to watch him and his band play now, I would demand a refund. That’s how bad he has declined and I’ve watched several of his current club performances on utube. Tommy plays the majority of the old Kiss material spot on. He’s the one who had to reteach Ace all the solos when Kiss first put the makeup back on. You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. I would hardly call Ace’s solos “iconic” They are mostly made up of standard blues scale licks that any semi pro guitar player can play with ease.

[@roberthaizlip4057]

@@devinw5150 Someone is jealous that Ace is a legend and MANY famous guitarists list him as their Idol. His solos are most definitely iconic, melodic and unique. The only people saying Tommy taught Ace are the proven liars Paul and Gene. Ace still mops the floor with Tommy. Tommy can't play anything original. He's been an Ace wanna be all his life.

[@devinw5150]

@@roberthaizlip4057 I don’t disagree that Ace influenced many guitar players. He definitely played an important part of R&R history. That’s undeniable. Gene and Paul aren’t the only ones that said Tommy helped Ace relearn his parts. Peter also verified that Tommy helped Ace relearn his parts in one of his interviews and of course, Tommy himself said it too. I know that’s really hard for you to accept because he’s your idol and you worship the ground he walks on but It’s not really a big deal and totally understandable. He hadn’t played that stuff in decades. That, combined with all of his drug and alcohol abuse would cause memory problems. As far as the rest of your rant, that’s all opinionated. You think his solos were “iconic,” I think they’re nothing special and every average guitar player in the world would have no problem playing them. What’s indisputable is how much Ace has deteriorated over the years. There’s no way he could ever do what Tommy’s doing in Kiss right now. Ace is a shell of his former self. Father time has been very cruel to him. As far as jealousy? 🤣 The only thing I’m jealous of as far as Ace Frehley goes is the amount of money he made with the average amount of talent he had but that goes for the other 3 guys too. Gene, Paul and Peter are no musical geniuses either. They just developed a good gimmick that helped sell tickets and they would tell you that themselves. Sometimes it’s not about how talented you are, it’s about drive and determination to make dreams come true and I give all 4 of them all the credit in the world for that. They deserve it.

[@Annkristen]

People paid money to hear this? LOL

[@sunsetsandguitars]

I❤Kiss!!!!!!!!!!

[@ps-yk8su]

2 Anthrax covers back to back

[@tylermorrison7051]

Now, listen. Little Caesar's Arena, how many of you like to take a taste of Hot and Ready Classiic Pepperoni? I heard backstage that some of you like Crazy Bread with marinara sauce. Pizza pizza. Oh, yeah!"

[@shokid95]

Sounds good but not the Originals

[@AJLeonardo198]

Paul WITHOUT VOICE Sound Good? DESAFINA, LE FALTA AIRE, etc

[@imabigfanshow783]

Paul has the warble of an old lady singing in church. Sad. They’ll still be the hottest band in the world… but they should have walked away years ago.

[@inquisitor4635]

Gene rolling in like Jabba the Hutt.

[@eddiemuniz761]

Spiro pappodatos and Jean Beauvoir should replace them for the next album with the same facial characters!!!!

[@DrTomMD]

Was there. Was worth it. Was fun. Wasn’t 1970’s through 2000. But wasn’t what I was expecting either.

[@LM7World]

Eye spy Tommy & Mike from Three Sides Of The Coin … but can’t see “Lord” Mark Cicchini!!! 🇦🇺🤘🏻🤣

[@jamiepastman5594]

without the costumes, they are no different from a high school band who can barely play. I mean, just listen to this excrement, how can you not know how much they totally suck? The fans are an embarrassment, the “band” even worse.

[@pennyking3823]

a great band...if you are a 12 year old boy. Notice how bad Paul's voice sounds . Not lip syncing like he does in concert

[@sidle]

Remember when Ace sang 'Shock Me'? These guys didn't.

[@jables3377]

What do the fans need to pay to see these pre-show soundchecks?

[@sportsfix6975]

$1200 plus your ticket..so $1600 if your front rows...

[@BNatoAk]

They act like the song list isn't mapped out already 😂

[@GerryBlue]

Been a fan since I was a kid in 1979, I like them more without all the paraphernalia, so this is great, thanks for sharing. Btw, Paul seems to be losing not only his voice, but some height, too? I'm guessing it's those hip surgeries 😔

[@sportsfix6975]

and no seven inch heels!

[@mitchrider3361]

Bring back Ace and Peter and replace PAUL!!! Cringe

[@jebus571]

This isn't a soundcheck, lol, it's just a private, smaller show without make-up and some yelling at the sound guys. They're not going to actually perform as kiss on that stage afterwards, lol. Can't imagine how much this cost.

[@purple_dragon4895]

Few thousand $ prices are on their website

[@sportsfix6975]

$1200

[@cuzin-peludo]

Solid play! ALTHOUGH... Tommy still singing Shock Me, Gene forgetting Parasite's lyric intro... All about disrespect

[@BBQPITDOG]

Hell Yea I gotta go see one of these Soundchecks!

[@triketacular8093]

How can this be a sound check, then they are not in the arena area where the actual concert will take place? Cheers.

[@billtrepkowski527]

The crew was still putting the stage together. They played in Cincinnati the night before, and the stage got to Detroit three hours late.

[@JoeJohn777]

Lol a jew band with a SS symbol in the bands name lol

[@mathsamson8880]

wow...great set list here, my God!!

[@loganbrooks5298]

what was the first riff that paul played ?

[@JosephMiller-d4g]

Play songs before a show is music

[@BeverlyFedak]

Nice 😊

[@henrique83961]

mr speed!!!!!

[@davidbroadbent854]

How about plaster caster? 😂😂😂😂

[@sportsfix6975]

Do you know what that song is about? 😮

[@davidbroadbent854]

@@sportsfix6975 plaster nobs

[@olavohulkdasilva8961]

VERY GOOD KISS FOREVER 1973 2023 .............................👍👍👍🤘🔥🎸🎵🎼🎼🎤

[@AJLeonardo198]

Very Good? REALLY? JAJAJAJA

[@BlackDiamond1967]

I see Tommy Sumpters! 😂

[@billtrepkowski527]

Mark Cicchini was there, too.

[@spaceman87186]

Genie vs Tommy somers.

[@kissfaq]

Thanks for sharing!

[@icdcicdc989]

legacy songs, legacy band. Paul has pure joy and it doesn't MATTER that his voice is not what it once was - the passion is rock and roll. At 15:49 in Parasite its evident how Ace's right/left hand precise picking was hard to duplicate. Tommy does an admirable job, but blurrs the last few 16th notes because. . they're just too hard to pick - whereas Ace made that precision legendary. Gene's hilarious and his bass line in Detroit Rock City is legend. Eric sounds great - different drummer style than Peter - and I guess doesn't like the snare locked on (hollow snare). Peter's drumming was more fluid and jazz based - and to each his own. Kiss' songs from the first six albums are on a different level than anything afterwards, and hearing them live brings us all back - a true regression - into the innocent joy and energy of being a teenager again. Thank you boys - Paul, Peter, Ace, and Gene - for making that great music and mystique. Thanks Eric and Tommy for keeping the live shows close to the original. God bless you all!

[@charlesmullins3238]

Parasite absolutely was killer

[@travismorrison904]

I couldn’t agree more! Great thoughts!!

[@strikeouttwo7295]

Pay for this?

[@michaelchamp3093]

Even the sound check is even scripted down to the same songs at every venue. The last 2 concerts at MSG were not heartfelt by any means. It was all about the money. It was choreographed to the minute both nights. Same songs, same story telling, same hugs and photos at the scheduled time. Terrible way to leave off.

[@juanfranciscopaezgaray1177]

IT is notorios the absence of Peter Criss and Ace Frehley. We don't know the bottom of the situations which they (Paul & Gene) didn't want abierto the closing of them.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

A soundcheck, and it sounds good. Paul: "Now we have to go, because KISS is coming in a while..."😂 Nice!

[@ochoron7430]

Any other band did this there'd be people packed wall to wall in those windows up stairs. Just a handful of die hard fans.

[@reubensane5539]

Shock me doesn’t have that swing it used to have ,the drums don’t fit and Tommy’s playing the tone has no bite and it’s too thin and he sounds more like Joe Perry singing. Gene looks like he’s not even into it.

[@TheOfficerMahoney]

What would we play for you! OH the same improvised songs again

[@WilliamCurry-bh3dk]

SAME OLE SONGS

[@MyTorpedos]

they need Ace

[@wdgaminganddisneyhistory6024]

I'm sorry, but have you seen Ace? I think he went back to old habits. He's slightly late for shows, can't sing like he used to, and more importantly he can't play like he used to. Everyone seen in the video here is tight on their instruments. And look, I love Ace and Peter as much as the next guy, but Ace lost his chops. He stumbles through shows, quite drunkenly. Look at his live solo band in the year of 2023. Everyone in that band could out perform him. I feel sorry for the guy honestly. This also usually gets asked, not like anyone else cares, but I am also a musician so... I have a little more input (but not much regarding the person side of things) on that.

[@devinw5150]

You obviously haven’t heard Ace lately. Tommy can play circles around him without even trying

[@LOUIS-np6be]

​@@devinw5150RITE ON !!!

[@AJLeonardo198]

@@wdgaminganddisneyhistory6024 Y Paul puede cantar como solía hacerlo? O tocar como solía hacerlo? NO, OCUPA PISTAS, DESAFINA, PIERDE AIRE, claro ocupa pistas y efectos desde 2009.

[@AJLeonardo198]

@@devinw5150 Y tu obviamente no has visto a Paul, lo tienes al frente y eres tan cegatón y sordo que no notas que NO CANTA, DESAFINA, OCUPA EFECTOS Y PISTAS EN LOS SHOWS, por cierto, Tommy jugar en circulos alrededor de Ace? NO, Tommy es un músico sin personalidad, no por nada fue un FRACASO con su banda, solamente está ahí por decir que sí a todo lo que le ordenan sus jefes.

[@pattalkstoparakeets2235]

'She' sounds so great! Not an easy song to play. Amazing.

[@williamb.8059]

Everyone KISSing Gene's arse. Sad.

[@slasherdope8065]

In Gene's own eyes, he is God and he is King

[@eddiemuniz761]

Paul probably has enough Artwork to publish a book with commentary!!!!!

[@eddiemuniz761]

They should have an invite only party at the 4 seasons hotel in New York City on December 2nd!!!!!!

[@dr.darkroom]

5:10 Paul has to iterate that this performance is live because the other ones aren't.

[@marceloaranguizpasche7826]

These are the song truly fans would have loved to hear during the end of the road tour. But they repeated the same set list of las 10 years

[@charlesmullins3238]

Man they still sound killer…gene rockin my ol jordans from the day…cool as ice

[@DTV-uz7jz]

Glad it’s coming to a end, Og kiss is 10x better

[@marklloyd4153]

It’s only half the band . What happened to the other 2???

[@reubensane5539]

I’m a huge kiss fan and this doesn’t sound like kiss.

[@alienresearchlab]

Cool video! I've never paid up for a meet n' greet but this changed my mind. Looks like a great time! Thanks for posting!

[@reubensane5539]

I’m a huge kiss fan and this doesn’t sound like kiss.

[@ThomasHall-w1j]

your powers of observation are out standing.

[@adamkievit2427]

practicing in the concourse isn't sound checking

[@charlesmullins3238]

Parasite & she….put yer headphones in

[@kendallkilgore7799]

Sad to see what they will do for an extra $$$$

[@frontcentermusician]

geez Pauls hair looks so straight LOL....

[@jericet]

One big issue, kiss is playing a "soundcheck" in the CONCOURSE of the arena, not on the main stage of the arena. Now, if my daddy paid alota money for me to see the "full VIP soundcheck" experience, and kiss, n I was sent to stand in front of a stage that is 17 inches tall in the HALLWAY of Lil Ceasars, it would be real bad. NO Q&A either. Of course it was an adequate size stage since it's only HALF of KISS. R

[@billtrepkowski527]

See my reply to another comment on them not taking questions. The stage was three hours late arriving from Cincinnati, where they played the night before. They had to play in the concourse, because the crew was still constructing the stage inside. They issued partial refunds for the portions of the VIP experience that weren't fulfilled. I imagine the amount was different depending on which VIP package you purchased, but I got $500 back.

[@goldiemusic8394]

not a fan, but they seem really nice.

[@steveroth191]

$

[@ibizabartenders]

Paul is singing with his voice in this stage. But in the live show, with make up on, he is doung lipsync 90% of all songs. He can't singing every night since 2014. He lost his voice after a bad surgery ... Its ok, nothing to say, except that he denied it. Anyway,bthank you Paul for all your efforts to delivery the band by 50 years. Is time to go.

[@brooklynbud1138]

He got his surgery too late and kept pushing his voice too hard afterwards. From 2010-present it’s been apparent Paul’s voice is shot, but it’s horrendous now

[@CalebMartin69]

Paul laughing at gene for forgetting the lyrics 😂

[@brooklynbud1138]

Gene fucked up the lyrics to Deuce at the final show! DEUCE!

[@MrRacket991]

Hide your daughters, the donut demon has arrived on stage!!

[@danrease7505]

😅

[@5Ring]

No Detroit Rock City????

[@dashcan8479]

Who wrote Scchock me?

[@JasonX626]

Its great. But how much was it? I cannot imagine....

[@AJLeonardo198]

Great? JAJAJAJA, $1600

[@yo-c]

24:03 the question 😂😂

[@luisruizalvarez6860]

9:32 Hey, Fake Frehley doing Shock Me! 😄

[@joe_w_]

it is wrong on so many levels.

[@10idiomax]

the ONLY true Rock and Roll Hall of Famer band there ever was! My respect.

[@JosephMiller-d4g]

Im mad i didn't go

[@richardwarfordjr.5622]

Still got it guys