Thermaltake CTE C750 Air Review - they flipped the mobo!

[@QuentinStephens]

Don't buy this case if your GPU uses heatpipes. Only buy it if you are going to watercool your GPU or use passive cooling. I was a long-time user of cases with vertical mounts - I still have my Silverstone FT02 and FT05 - and while they were great for GPUs with blower coolers like my GTX Titan X I cannot recommend them for air-cooled GPUs with heatpipes. I had a RTX 2080 Ti and while at first all seemed well, after some months it began to overheat. It was fine in a flat or upright position - I had no problems when I laid the FT05 on its side - but in a vertical position - when the FT05 was stood back up - the problems would recur.

[@lesliegrace8360]

False. This claim about heatpipes performing poorly against gravity was a misconception that was brought up in 2010s when Silverstone had an inverted layout. GamerNexus has proven it that heatpipes and vaporchamber doesn't have direct correlation with gravity. IceGiant on the other hand works differently as that requires gravity to flow liquid in the heatpipes.

[@QuentinStephens]

@@lesliegrace8360 I can only offer my own experience and orientation definitely made a difference. Remember that I was using this long-term and the issue appeared after months of use, not the mere hours that GN et al can test.

[@gogopowerrangers6596]

thats interesting, wouldnt have thought that would have been a problem. you tested it afterwards in a standard position again?

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

really? wow. what are the temperature differences Quentin?

[@bobsmithson8592]

I am always amazed at the faith people have in GN. Good channel, but its almost like whatever steve burke says now, is suddenly law and no one should say otherwise.

[@truth_hearts_1940]

THANKS. you're the only person that actually shows where cables are going. the rest just had them dangling out without air filter. seems to be a clunky design, especially if PC goes under the table

[@stickyfingers9710]

I like this design. SilverStone rocked it and it’s great to see thermaltake adopting it too. Good job tt and Leo ❤

[@xynonners]

there's also the geometric future model 8 that came out a while before those one (may-2022)

[@Brodda-Syd]

And my Silverstone Raven RV02-EW still "ROCKS", but as it is around 12 years old, I'm thinking maybe its time to replace it.

[@aeon7748]

The way you designed it so beautiful, good job guys! 👏

[@jayHasMalloc]

I just spent half an hour trying to figure out how the cabling would work out on this case and you're the only person that's done that. Way too fiddly for me with the amount of cables I have, crossing this case off the list.

[@overclockingdemon7179]

Another awesome Leo review for the weekend !

[@cristiant6566]

was waiting for 011 evo XL, but this will do 😍😍

[@Scarlet_Soul]

Now this could be very interesting for a custom loop build

[@realLuisGiordano]

Truly impressive build man! At last, a case that supports my RAID-5 3.5" 4 disk array while also providing a decent, cleaner look than my Antec DF-85.

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

Cracking case Leo. Great review man !!

[@ajr1775]

Please be sure to review the CTE C550 when it comes out. I think that case may be more applicable for most of us.

[@spawntohell]

I can see Leo is having fun with it! Yes it has options but also is some what different of the typical cases. 😅

[@jake..A]

Looks like a massive case but cannot support any form of thick rads at the side, front & rear which is very disappointing considering the size of the case.

[@UltraVert]

Why not? There is nothing but space between the rear/gpu and bottom/gpu. At any rate you could put 4 thin 360's in it and still a 240 at the top. All for $180, this case is awesome.

[@AnarchicYang]

Just get Noctua Fans? Personal opinion. Im building a Computer now with this case, B650-Plus, Noctua Dh-15, Ryzen 9 7050x, and a 4060ti. Theory says it should work great but we’ll see haha

[@garyrichards6079]

Forgot to mention the fact hanging your GPU vertically eliminates GPU sagging ... lol that's a big plus on a big heavy card !

[@harleylover9446]

Enjoyed this one Leo cheers bud

[@kiwicasper33]

Was thinking of getting this but maybe go for the smaller one after watching this. Great video and fantastic, blunt and down to earth review as I expect from him now.

[@boltsandbraces6261]

I like that case! I think thermaltake are doing a lot of good recently, and they were always hit and miss for me over the years.

[@bobsmithson8592]

Its a pretty nice version of a silverstone implementation from years ago. Not really a thermaltake creation as such, but its pretty good.

[@n9ne]

@@bobsmithson8592 looks like they copied sharkoon rev300 and not the silverstone ft05. those old silverstone cases barely has any airflow.

[@Goryglory0209]

Case with Dust Filters. Thats awesome

[@anticommoncore4065]

Nice review. This case has lots of options and great air flow. But the big concern I have is how much external cable length you lose from the neat, but poorly accessible, external cable ports. What additional expense for longer cables than normal or extensions?

[@LuqmanHakimIlham]

I don't see any side outlet shown near the top of the case. Would've been great for under desk setups since most cable management is done under desk these days and the cables can just exit upwards. Unlikely but still hoping the lower variants have this. I would have also liked to see a fully air cooled setup tested to showcase how much the 'CTE design' impacts thermals.

[@CoolColJ]

@@LuqmanHakimIlham just leave the top mesh and filter off and directly route the cables out. That's what I would do

[@malphadour]

Not quite sure why you wouldn't do a quick tweak to get the 7950x running with Curve Optimizer and improve its performance and take 20C off its temps. I know you like to keep things stock, but it's not a realistic example of how people with any know how (or ability to read the internet) would run that CPU. Then we could see the cooling in action. You said you were surprised that the custom loop did not reduce the temperature - it can't because the 7950x in default will just keep drawing power as long as it is hitting 95c - so you would only see the difference in that it would maybe draw a bit more power and a touch more performance if the heat dissipation was superior. Did you notice any particularly higher power draw?

[@sabishiihito]

As an American, and moreso a longtime fan of the NFL, the acronym "CTE" takes on a *whole* different meaning

[@BleepBlop-rh9lm]

I am definitely buying the white version. It's pretty cheap and perfect for a custom loop.

[@sentraselify]

Would of liked the fan racks to have captive screws

[@alleycatlordoflunes9689]

So what about the C700 and C500? Or have they decided only to bring out 1 of the 3 case designs this summer, are the other 2 going to have to wait for christmas?

[@EmoEmu]

Looks really good for tinkerers.

[@fairycat]

Thanks fir review

[@rufusmctavish1164]

So much hate for this case. It’s brilliant 🎉🎉

[@ericvalentine1497]

i would like to see a smoke test, to see where the air goes.

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

Depends what you're smoking lol.

[@Yukon.72]

Would cable ports on top and so tight space, mean that cables will be angled by like 90 degree, meaning bigger wear\change of cable snapping?

[@zMeul]

do I need a large case in my life, absolutely! and one with a lot of 3.5" HDD bays as possible, hard to find

[@akirafan28]

Just 7 HDDs in this sounds like an awful waste of space imo ;)

[@arielis78]

Is there a place on this case to mount a LCD monitor display internally or external (like between the dust filter and the glass on the TG version)?

[@KitGuruTech]

Nope, unless you get busy with your Dremel.

[@jonathanellis6097]

I've never understood why dust filters are put in the top of cases where you exhaust air. Why would you want to filter the air that's coming out of the case!!?? Is your PC an air scrubber now!

[@KitGuruTech]

Partly it is to avoid general muck like dog hair drifting through the top of your case when the PC is shut down, but equally the manufacturer is allowing for the option of using the top for intake and not for exhaust.

[@williammathies2998]

Thanks!

[@B8con8tor]

Do you know when the release date is? Iv been waiting months for a review. You are the best.

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

Leo is king

[@lesliegrace8360]

You can do the same with any case that is flipped.

[@chillsounds1980]

Hi, can you advise for a raiser cable for a 3 slot GPU (RTX4080) witch one is most compatible the 90° or 180° ?.

[@sahinerdem5496]

does it come with GPU riser?

[@Chebornek]

I love a big case which doesn't get moved around a lot...maybe 3 to 4 times a year, I'll take my case to the garage and blow it out with the filtered air compressor. If it weighs

[@Jasontyo]

Ive always wanted to see a PC build with a liquid cooled GPU but air cooled CPU

[@katzicael]

Jeez that case is Massive! lol. Makes me wish I had an AIO/custom loop GPU

[@papabepreachin8664]

Too bad it doesn’t support dual power supplies. I know it’s a niche use but considering its large size and accommodation for multiple drives

[@jessevuorimaa4164]

why they dont ad this front and roof panels to view 51 :(

[@Daisudori]

Love this case but the vapourchamber on my rx6800 doesnt with that gpu orientation :(

[@CoolColJ]

flip the card upside down so the I/O face downwards

[@mynickisalreadytaken]

I would not buy this case, because i only like the differen layout. The rest ist nothing to for me. But. I really hope this way of Mounting or similar gets more popular. There are aready a lot of things that should be different, like the I/O situation. This can easily made way simpler and faster to use. But i really kile the Idea of a "hanging" GPU and the different approach on Airflow direction. A smaller, more simple Version would be nice. I would love a few versions from different manufacturers. GPUs got so big, the classic mounting feels absolutely off to me. I remember when i got my 8800 GTS in 2007(?). And that looked chunky in comparison to what we had before. And now, my "small" RX 6600 is already double the size of that and is a fairly small card nowadays. The Mech x2 from MSI. Great Review as always, thank you. I am really looking forward to more cases of this style. I also always loved the different look of BTX.

[@TreyJays]

How will this 90° orientation affect cooling on graphics cards given their vapor chambers?

[@ScouseWill79]

Just have it forward facing like I do

[@RyeRyeL]

16:25 - pretty disappointing that by now Leo still hasnt posted the clocks and performance rarher than relying on temps. 7950x will just target 95C all day and boost higher if you have better cooling.

[@animalyze7120]

Love the idea but every one who is reviewing this case is doing it incorrectly. This case is designed for traditional horizontal airflow or upflow chimney style airflow. Not Both at once! If you populate this case with fans like in this video you will have flow issues from turbulence (Air collisions) creating vortexes and dead spots. If you use a down fire air cooler this case is a dream setup. Water cooling will be simple and straightforward just pick a flow pattern. This case is designed for any air flow pattern you could want but if you just willy nilly fill it with fans and rads you're going to have problems, big ones.

[@CoolColJ]

Well Thermaltake themselves have videos and pictures on their site showing the case as being tested like this :)

[@Gamecapturevideo]

That battery power, nice.

[@markod7662]

i would like to see how it looks connected and working. With all cables plugged in.

[@KitGuruTech]

and that is exactly what you get in this video.

[@markod7662]

​@@KitGuruTech ok. Thank you. Somehow i missed that moment. But still if there are 3 or 4 cables sticking from the top that will look bad.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@markod7662 We make that exact point in the video and as one of the negative points www.kitguru.net/components/cases/leo-waldock/thermaltake-cte-c750-air-review-the-fullest-tower/

[@markod7662]

@@KitGuruTech nice website and reviews🤗👍

[@michalp.4975]

I wonder will I be able to fit 2x 420 XSPC radiators in this case? (front and back). This would be the only reason for me to change my DIY pc desk....

[@KitGuruTech]

Thermaltake says maximum support is for 360mm radiators

[@michalp.4975]

@@KitGuruTech that's their official sizing. I wonder if my 460mm rad would fit in. Their AIO 420s are 456mm...

[@Dexx1s]

@@KitGuruTech but can you actually fit a 420mm radiator in there? The Corsair 420mm rad, for example, is smaller than their 420 AIO, which does fit(I asked their customer support). I don't see a reason why they wouldn't officially support it so that's why I'm trying to find out of it would fit, even if it's a "don't quote me on it" kinda thing.

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

am still running my old janky core x9, in snow white - only because its the only case that can fit a nova 1080 extreme internally....

[@n9ne]

check out the sharkoon rev300 is cheaper than this case same layout but comes with 7 argb fans.

[@geromeabad]

Is there a link I can use to buy this case?

[@KitGuruTech]

www.scan.co.uk/search?q=cte

[@geromeabad]

@@KitGuruTechany us stores?

[@Jeff-rc7ph]

Rear exhaust fans x3 in the same space your gpu intake fans need air?

[@KitGuruTech]

The fans in the floor, front and back are all intake. Exhaust is in the roof and the side has been left open Leo

[@Jeff-rc7ph]

@@KitGuruTech Thank you for clarifying.

[@UltraVert]

This is the 90 degree layout Silverstone and their stupid patent should have made years ago. Ive never considered a Thermaltake chassis but this looks like a winner.

[@stevewatson6839]

Okay, going to have to see some more reviews for a rounded pic; but provisionally I'm going to drop calling them Thermaltacky and put the bargepole away! 🤣👍

[@RafaelSilva-yv3oh]

GFF needs to get his hands on this! Lol

[@xBINARYGODx]

LOL at them reducing the support is its custom loops - like, I can think of many radiators that, if an AIO works, so will they, and easily. I guess since they cannot say "100%", but, that was going to be true anyway (for 99.9% of cases).

[@TimLongson]

Looks like a good 2023 case, where custom water-loops are making sense. So in the case you could simultaneously run three 420mm radiators (front & back & side) & use three extra 140mm fans (2 at bottom & 1 at top); does that sound right? That would give amazing complete system cooling (could water cool GPU & CPU & gen5 SSD & even DDR5 RAM), for increadible boosting, efficiency (fans would barely have to turn so low energy usage), long hardware life, and pretty much silent operation. And if you got all those fans as RGB, with RGB cooling blocks on CPU & GPU & SSD & RAM, it would look AMAZING!

[@Dexx1s]

Well, they don't officially support 420mm radiators, only AIOs, which is strange. You could probably add short 420mm radiators on the front back and side but I don't think it could then take 4 140mm fans in the bottom. I'm actually trying to find out if Corsair 420mm radiators would fit in the front and back and then add a 280 on the bottom or something.

[@TimLongson]

@Dexx the Duck think I will stick with my plan and get a Cooler master HAF 700 at the end of the month then. But it seems weird that so many case manufacturers seem oblivious to 140mm fan based custom water cooling.

[@Dexx1s]

@@TimLongson They're not oblivious. They marketed it as being able to fit 420mm radiators, and even let channels doing coverage at CES explicitly state that you could add 4 420mm radiators. I think they realized that radiators can be rather large and backtracked. I see no reason why a radiator smaller than their 420 AIO wouldn't fit. Plus, the HAF is way more expensive so that's not an option if consider. I would order this case and return it if it doesn't fit, but I'm not American and would have to import it so returns are expensive. Eventually, somebody's gonna get the case and would be able to test it.

[@Dexx1s]

@@TimLongson They officially support 420MM radiators in the sides and by the radiator per the infographs on their page, but I still wouldn't try using any radiators longer than the 456mm which is all I could get them to guarantee at the time. You may be able to check with their customer service on the absolute maximum that could fit.

[@Dexx1s]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me if 30mm thick 420mm radiators would work in this thing. They said their 420mm AIO fits, which is larger than the Corsair 420mm rad, but you never really know, since they refused to officially support 420mm radiators.

[@joseperez-zo6fr]

They will. Don’t see why not? I was thinking of dual 64mm for both cpu and gpu

[@dtnineninety9406]

I will tell you today if the th420 fits. As soon as the mailman gets here

[@haremofprocessors6954]

Looks like a better version of the SilverStone design tbh

[@KOT-ANGRY]

Super case ❤ but i havent money for this 😢

[@lesliegrace8360]

I bought a CM "Toaster" Q500L and bought legs from Q300P to tilt for an vertical orientation. - A lot cheaper with a much compact design 😄

[@geromeabad]

Where can I buy it?

[@ScouseWill79]

From Scan (in the UK)

[@Thundra74]

16:26 How is possible 13700k 225W run Hotter than 13900k 260W? A misstype ?

[@KitGuruTech]

Effectively those two CPUs run at the same temperature however one explanation could be that the Core i7 has fewer cores so the core density is higher than the Core i9. The most likely explanation is that Core i9 gets the best silicon while Core i7 is not as good and hence less efficient.

[@zoltanvigh3811]

I don' t know if it is just me but when I see reviewers carelessly tossing around those side panels of expensivee cases, it just annoys me. (the same issue with Gamersnexus). Haven't watched the rest of the review yet, but otherwise it looks to be quite informative, the narration is at normal speed, that is excellent, I don't have to slow it down, like in the long haired guy's videos.

[@KitGuruTech]

The white surface on the table top is silicon rubber which reduces the amount of noise and also saves damage. rest assured, when review items go back in their box they are in mint condition. Leo

[@zoltanvigh3811]

@@KitGuruTech But I meant when you stack them on top of each other :) But anyways thanks for the reply, going to watch the rest of it now finally : )

[@RamilArt]

Хороший обзор, спасибо.

[@cptwhite]

In terms of ventilation / airflow, it's like a Corsair 4000D Airflow on steroids....

[@lesliegrace8360]

Or a 4000D that is tilt

[@JoeL-xk6bo]

Silverstone Raven RV02B is still the best case with this orientation.

[@canarychrome7012]

good case, but is it the best?

[@lesliegrace8360]

@@canarychrome7012 GamersNexus did put that case on 1st ranking for half a decade. Only drawback is that the casing is dated with lack of support for large AIO rads. You can easily recreate the inverted layout with any case and you will realise that the stacking phenomenon improves airflow with lesser fans (fan noise) in comparison with conventional layout. Only hassle with such layout is that the case design has an enclosure that covers up the rear I/O, which Steve from GN admitted it can be a hassle for users to open up to get access.

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

@@lesliegrace8360 Easy access for the Silverstone design (simple toolless lift off lid) and you can easily install a front usb panel module for very easy access with the ability to change the type of usb connections as improvements/speeds come to the market.

[@lesliegrace8360]

@@johnlesoudeur3653 I know. I own a FT02 myself. But the top panel can be quite a hassle to yank off and on to get access to rear I/O. Those "toolless clips are fasten tight and will snap over time - plastic mushroom tabs. Oh and that top panel restricts airflow FYI. The front I/O is swappable for updates as i've did from USB2.0 to USB3.0 but silverstone have stopped updating it since to USB C.

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

@@lesliegrace8360 Have you had a look at the "SilverStone G11313530-RT - I/O port upgrade to USB3.1 Gen2 (10Gb/s), Type-C connector, flexible flat cables". It is technically not an upgrade for the FT02 because the type C connector cable might not be long enough for some motherboards but this can be circumvented by using a PCIe card with a type C motherboard connector. I agree about the plastic tabs but the top cover airflow seems OK to me but have installed a Noctua NFP12 as my top fan. I use a 51/4" front usb panel module that includes a type c connector and charging ports.

[@zig131]

Waiting for the next size down - the C700 Air. The main difference is the extra intake on the same side which is as the PSU intake which is kinda useless as practically you're going to have that side facing/close to the wall to best present the case to the room.

[@CoolColJ]

It's also where you can put hard drives, so you will lose that.

[@zig131]

@@CoolColJ When I said that I was working on the assumption there was reasonable accommodation behind the motherboard. I have the Geometric Future Model 8 Dharma which is a similar rotated case and it supports my 2 3.5" and 1 2.5" SATA drives on the back of the MOBO tray.

[@CoolColJ]

@@zig131 yeah the CTE 750 only has a single 3.5 inch space at the back unlike the O11 Evo or the upcoming Evo XL. I personally prefer to suspend mount my Hard drives to get rid of any resonance vibrational hum. Usually with velcro straps suspending the drive inside a HD cage or from a Power supply shroud if it's vented. I can't see a way to do it in this case, except maybe hanging from top...

[@ronnyspanneveld8110]

4 minutes in.. i want it... since i can actually put my d5 with res in....... looks kinda expensive for what u get.. same prize as an NV7 witch has rgb stuff..

[@ronnyspanneveld8110]

bought it. got a nice HEATPIPE XFX Speedster MERC 310X 7900 XTX in it. 35c idle and about 62c while gaming. Only had to buy new Displayport cable since mine was to short...... and i have been using it for 4 months now..

[@David-nd4to]

14:59 when it was scheduled for 15:00pm. Government can’t do anything correctly

[@KitGuruTech]

and despite that, KitGuru caught it on camera!

[@a.tevetoglu3366]

Aaahhh ..someone noticed :))

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

?

[@spayrex_]

UGHHHH i thought i could use this case as an inverted build but now that shitty Psu Cable will come in the way..

[@Corontant]

Super:))++

[@dotms5195]

This case has more room than it knows what to do with it. As Leo illustrated once you put a waterblock on a GPU it kinda shrinks in size. Sticking with air cooling for the GPU looks like the best option to fill out the empty space. That leaves the CPU cooling on water. While you could do that there's still not much use for having triple 420 or 360 on a CPU which makes it a little bit pointless (bar the because you can argument).

[@RafaelSilva-yv3oh]

Just add radiators and pumps.

[@TheTomexification]

You do a build on this and the next time you do another build you need a new case because some new gimmicks are mandatory, like usb type D or E or whatever new stuff on the front IO. A PC is a tool to do work, not something to look at. Just get me something silent, small and powerful, and leave the rgb and all the gimmicks out.

[@brianwest7344]

sizewise obviously not built for modern UK homes

[@ScouseWill79]

I've got mine in my modern UK home, granted, it does take up 50% of my desk space making it rather cramped for keyboard and mouse, I could always wall mount the monitor

[@casb-]

did thermaltake not google the term CTE before they named their cases that?

[@schlitzbull13]

lol 0:45

[@brokawmike]

I see they stuck with Chronic traumatic encephalopathy 750 air

[@markcumbriauk]

The World has gone mad.

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Way too big! It's nearly big enough to have Leo step in😂

[@dimwillow7113]

People should now certain GPU dont like vertical mounting, you get crap temperatures. Like reference RDNA2 cards hot spot goes to 110c. I have my Silverstone FT02 on it side because of this.

[@lesliegrace8360]

I had an FT02 as well. Vertical mounting gave me no issues with all GPUs I have used over the years - reference design or non-reference design. You might want to check the fan speeds for the bottom fan facing the GPU. Or you might want to repaste your GPU as the contact may have come loose.

[@cristiant6566]

Amd gpu have issues because some of the cards have vapour chambers so having them in a vertical mount etc limits the cooling of the liquid in the vapour chamber Aka the cracking die saga of the 7000 series gpus

[@lesliegrace8360]

​@@cristiant6566 You do know vapor chambers are designed to be insensitive to gravity right? At least majority vapor chamber designs are made that way. I wonder if it's an AMD issue 😁

[@cristiant6566]

@Leslie Grace when they are mounted in a hanging configuration like this case the longer heat pipe is at the very bottom of the card Shorter ones are at the top so the longest part contains the liquid that the die is yet to convert into gad to goto the top of the card to be reverted The liquid stays cool by being further away from the die. If the die was at the bottom of the card heating all the liquid to turn to gas at the top to cool it would be perfect in that orientation

[@CoolColJ]

just flip the GPU so the I/O faces downwards

[@UkzEnglishBullTerrierz]

I think black builds are horrible And the manufacturers know it that's why white pc components are more expensive

[@MrSilverPants68]

Another giant black tin can

[@EmoEmu]

A nice one though.

[@righteousone8454]

As in any other case is not a tin can you half a cup metaphor, mf 😂

[@ph11p3540]

Well every pc needs a home. Might as well be a big well ventelated home

[@UltraVert]

There are a lot of options for small black tin cans that cost more, have tons of limitations, are hard to work in and have bad thermals.

[@SuKRFiSH42]

Bro is not the main character 😂😂

[@NoodlesTBograt]

Just a gimmick case that looks awful

[@lesliegrace8360]

Silverstone knock off

[@canarychrome7012]

Really? what case?

[@lesliegrace8360]

@@canarychrome7012 Silverstone started out with that orientation using stacking phenomenon. RV01 was the first introduction, followed by FT02/etc and the latest was Alta F1.

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

@@lesliegrace8360 yeah but its not a copyright position though is it?

[@lesliegrace8360]

@@KnightRider-lq5yb You do know TT is that same case manufacturer that killed Caselabs' signature casing? Not copyright by the way, but rather patented design - no it's not a patented design maybe because the OG makers couldn't afford it unlike Apple with their "cheese grater" (MCPru/Dune were threatened)

[@g1981c]

i don't like the cringe thumbnail

[@cogthusiast1150]

Terrible case

[@KitGuruTech]

There is 20 minutes of video discussing the various aspects of this case yet you manage to give us a two word response. C'mon, we deserve more. Leo

[@cogthusiast1150]

@@KitGuruTech I'm sorry did you want an exposition in response? I actually watched the entire thing and came to that conclusion.

[@cogthusiast1150]

​@@billbrooke4355 okay 1. The case is huge, might as well build a PC in an Abrams tank 2. The rotated motherboard orientation is novel but not practical 3. The IO port orientation is silly and not practical, it's way too fiddly 4. The aesthetic design of the case leaves a lot to be desired

[@ScouseWill79]

@@cogthusiast1150 I have one, to access the top IO, I simply lift the top cover up slightly then pop it back down, I like the novelty of the hanging gpu front-facing and i'm rather pleased with the aesthetics, I suppose you would have to own one to appreciate it

[@andrewaustin6369]

I've got the white 700 air and externally it's very similar but they have altered things a bit internally such as dedicated drive bays and removing the side fans just in front of the front intake. I bought it mainly because of the size it made building in it a lot easier for this old guy with shot shoulders and increasingly arthritic hands I love the case and wasn't sure on the colour at first but the longer I have it the more it's grown on me.

[@frankd.b.9233]

Badly placed gpu ist just wrong in the case, it blows warm air inside