Klim Mojave jersey & pants long-term review ︱Cross Training Enduro

[@crosstrainingenduro]

FURTHER NOTES Still all good! Just kicking myself as I burned a hole in the Klim pants when I was trapped under a Honda CRF450RX for 20 seconds. It doesn't have a heat shield and burned it's way through the textile. Doh!

[@TheKitchenTechnician]

I have two pairs of Mojave pants. One in and one over the boot. Countless falls, countless events and they are still together. The leather on the inside of the leg is used to avoid melting issues on exhaust pipes that vinyl will experience. The only pants I will ever use. Really like my Klim Carbon helmet also. A full pound lighter than my HJC helmets! Gaerne SG 12’s. Love my new red ones to match my 2023 Beta 300RR. Great boots! After years of used boots off Kijiji I splurged on them. Couldn’t be happier.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Love the Gaerne boots! Pretty much everyone I know wears them. 👍 Good to hear you like the Klim Carbon helmet, they seemed to have a few issues in the early days so I looked elsewhere. Currently rocking an Arai XD4 which is a bit heavy... 😢

[@TylerN737s]

You’re dressed like me, ITB & OTB Mojave with the F5 lid & SG12’s on my feet. I run the Dakar series when it gets colder. Excellent gear, plenty of cuts/abrasions that also drew blood but no real damage other than blood stains. I do wish their Dakar & Mojave series pants had more than two buttons at the top of the zippered fly. Handful of races I’ve had both buttons pop loose. Could use a Velcro belt at the fly like they use on the sides.

[@Luca_CRF]

Do you prefer in, or over the boot? What`s your usecase?

[@PNWEnduro]

I rode with Klim gear for years but have moved on to Leatt. The XC lite pants and jerseys were not the most durable, but not bad. The XC lite gloves however, were constantly coming apart at the fingers. The Mojave line is very durable but I did not find them comfortable or breathable enough. I'd rather replace more comfortable/breathable gear every year or two than ride in gear I'm not comfortable or too hot in. It's also frustrating that the XC Lite, Mojave, and Dakar all fit completely differently when you buy the same sizes in all three lines.

[@connorp1513]

What Leatt jersey have you got? Looking at maybe a 4.5 jersey but not sure how durable

[@xRotivx]

This is exactly my setup for some years now. Great choice, never failed, the quality is top notch. Riders in my group are always complaining about tearing this our that on their pants/jersey, although they always go for the cheap stuff. With this stuff you can definitely see a quality/durability difference. And the pockets, big and handy with good design.

[@mxpmw]

Love your videos. Informative but also relaxing with bias management focusing on finding the facts, even asking for feedback from others to continuously feed future videos. Nice work.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

It's one of the interesting things with social media hey? So many positives but it also gives a platform for idiots (myself included) to spread inaccurate biased info lol. But there is some accuracy in gathering the impressions of as many idiots as possible. 🤔😁

[@pjakszentis]

Can only endorse your praise on the Mojave pants and jerseys. My ITB Mojave is no more than 8 years in use, looks a little used, but no functional damages so far. I managed to get a hole in the Mojave jersey, but that was brute force. In summer the Mojave pants and an XC jersey are my favorites since years. The Dakar jacket is my favorite for adventure riding. Not to forget the SG12. Apparently, quality pays off. For KLIM and their ever growing client base.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

In the long run the Klim gear does seem to eventually become really good value. I'm always keen to hear from riders who disagree though. So many brands become very popular then start to increase profits and drop quality. I hope Klim doesn't go down that path.

[@JagLite]

Very interesting video. I'm a budget rider so I've always bought from the close-outs and left overs sections. I bought the Klim Mojave pants because they were half price, (somewhere around $100) and I was willing to step up from my usual $65 pants. Yes, they are worth the money and are holding up great. I can't justify $200+ pants but I will certainly watch for more Klim closeout prices!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

For guys made of money the usual prices won't be an issue. For guys like us? Sales make a big difference lol!

[@West_Anderson]

Klim Mojave gear is all I will buy since getting turned onto the brand several years ago. I'm routinely impressed and blown away with just how durable and lasting it is. As long as they keep up their quality I will never look to another brand.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Same here, I'll stick with their gear as long as they don't drop the quality. The orginal mormon owners sold the business to Polaris a few years back and I thought they might drop quality to increase profit but it hasn't happened.... yet.

[@dring83]

Klim is good for sure. but i bought so much MSR closeout gear that i can't justify another pants and jersey purchase. great video!!!!!!!!! Dean

[@Branhamjeffd]

I have been running the same set of Fly pants for five years, they’ve held up amazingly well. I bought them on a clearance for pretty cheap. I run whatever jersey I can find online for 10-15 bucks that match my pants, usually Fly or MSR.

[@2wheelsoffroad730]

I have been running Klim pants the last few seasons. I have a pair of Mojave and XC Lite pants . Both have held up really well. I tend to like the pants with leather inner knee panels because they seam to hold up better against the extra rubbing from knee braces better. I have had plenty of good spills and hang ups on cactuses and yucca plants and these pants have been the most durable I've owned so far, o I think the pricing is fine. Its definitely in the "buy it once" category. Some of the other brands I've owned sometimes only last half a season before they start to fall apart.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Years ago I bought some Klim gear but the leather knee parts cracked and developed holes within a year which turned me off the brand. But later on I read that it was an issue they had fixed. Zero issues with my adv and enduro pants nowadays.

[@fljuus]

Pretty happy with my Mojave pants after a few rides. I was wondering, what do you think about cutting out the inner mesh for improved ventilation and cooling? I know some people do it, just wondering if it's worth it?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Dunno, if I wanted even more ventilation I think I'd just by the Klim XC Lite pants instead. And one of our guys said that Fly's ultra ventilated pants are very good but I haven't tried them.

[@timbrandt7211]

Agree, I’m in Costa Rica, hot and humid as hell, the Klim Mojave top/bottom is perfect and has lasted unscathed for a few years. And I love having a couple pockets for my InReach/cell.

[@Britt_350]

As a woman, its really hard to find riding gear that fits me. I love the Klim woman's line. The XC lite line fits me so well and works excellent in the Florida summers. I'm personally also a huge fan of Klim's Dakar Pro gloves. My first pair lasted me 3 years (honestly I could have gotten more out of them, I just wanted a new pair!) and then, I just bought the same exact pair because they fit me so well compared to dozens of other gloves I've tried.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Great to hear the gloves are working well, Britt. I read a lot of mixed reviews about the gloves so I've just been using work gloves from the hardware store.

[@chasebolyard1962]

I've never used Klim dirt bike gear but I do have a Klim parka and gloves from my snowmobile and snowbike days. My original parka was great until one ride when I seemed to keep getting wet, I contacted Klim and sent it to them and they determined the waterproof membrane had failed and sent me a new parka at no cost. My gloves have been great other than the velcro on one glove coming unstitched. Long story short I've been satisfied with my Klim gear and wouldn't hesitate to buy from them again.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

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[@houjous5131]

If your still testing brands try Fasthouse Off-Road Sand Cat Pants in been extremely happy with them. Thick Cordura, the leather in between the legs is also of a pretty good material. I got them at $140 usd so that is definitely curving my bias but I'd buy them again at the current $170usd.

[@davidfindlay5432]

It's a relentlessly similar result. That is you get what you pay for. I have multiple Klim products, and most of them are going on 5/6/7 years old. Clean them properly and they come up like new. I always argue "It's riding a bike!, You're going to get wet, sweaty. dirty, muddy and you will fall off" Pay the money, get the right gear, it'll last for years and be cheaper in the long term.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I think it's generally true! Of course you might find a brand that has dropped quality to maximise profits so their premium gear isn't so premium (brand name might start with 'F'). And sometimes a new brand might be dedicated to great quality but be quite cheap the first few years as they establish their reputation...

[@NONO-hz4vo]

My best pants are Klim. I have had them for close to 10 years know and the leather is fine even though it is all scratched up. I like the over the boot because we have a lot of water crossings and it helps keep the water out better than in the boot. They are warmer than the lightweight mx pants which is nice in the cold months but the price you pay to have the durability.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

10 years is a good run! If they last four times longer than cheapies then it's worth the extra cash.

[@bobberbear4622]

Bought the Klim marrakesh jacket last season and pants this season for more ADV riding. They are excellent and super well built. Not an inexpensive purchase however. But, the cheap and no name brand stuff just doesn't last or compare in function. For offroad my Answer Arkon pants are holding up really well and they were a steal. I have the Fly Racing F16 and Kinetic Mesh jerseys, the Kinetic I love and it ripped on the first tree I "bumped" into!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Man I hate those jerseys that rip at the slightest abrasion. I have a collection of them now.

[@davidmatal9132]

Hi i have bought older used gaerne sg 10 and I absolutly know they have the Best days loong time ago. But I have experienced big wear on my right boot from kickstarting my bike. It got to point that it's almost all the way threw to foot and it destroyed even the plastic sides of boot. Dont get me wrong I have nothing bad about the boots they are amazing. It happend really fast I didn't even notice it until water got threw the boot. I am a short rider and I ride yz 250 for enduro soo a lot of kicking to the sertain level I understand it but. I just wanna know if It happend to someone else or I did somethink wrong.

[@basti3121]

I'm in a colder climate and the dakar pants and jersey serve me very well. I'm also a fan of the baja s4 gloves from them.

[@airadaimagery692]

I’ve heard several people say the Baja S4 gloves start to come apart, but can be repaired if you know how to sew. How long have you had yours?

[@basti3121]

@airadaimagery692 at the time of the comment a few days. Did a longer trip and sure enough, I got a total of around 20h on them before the seams broke

[@airadaimagery692]

@@basti3121 thank you for the feedback. Does it seem like something that you could repair easily? I just wanna know if it weren’t for this one flaw, if the gloves would be really good summer time dual sport/trail gloves.... Because I don’t think the perfect glove even exist... Are your hands able to breathe in hot weather? I have the Revit Sand gloves, and they aren’t as ventilated as I wish they were...

[@MotoSaunter]

I have used Klim gear for the last several years, often looking like the “Klim Poster Child.” I’ve been very satisfied with it overall, but have noticed that updated products have been becoming incrementally inferior. The most extreme example in my experience has been the Outrider pants, a jean style riding pant. A pair from a few years ago are still holding up pretty well with understandable and appropriate signs of wear. I bought another pair last fall for a couple month long ride to Guatemala (from the US). The new pair were not nearly the garment: no abrasion resistant layers; outer material much lighter and fragile; lesser level protection armor. Yes it flowed air better, but I feel like my denim jeans would have been better protection except for the armor pockets. I still consider Klim gear when shopping but am looking harder at other brands.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Years back the Mormon owners sold to a huge conglomerate and my first thought was 'here comes the drop in quality!' A while back I posted on advrider asking if guys had noticed the newer gear was turning to crap and generally they said no, but... some were concerned that lighter materials were being used in some pants, jerseys and jackets. Klim was claiming they were every bit as tough but they were aiming for extra air flow. Riders were understandably sceptical. I'm definitely keeping an eye out for this in case Klim starts copying Fox's disastrous drop in quality and maximising profits.

[@jeffbrownell279]

Good vid.I am getting some new gear soon to replace my used up gear and I was looking at these and msr pants at half the price.I will be getting the klim,s.I live in Michigan but I easily suffer even in 60 degree weather because I have had heat exhaustion a couple times.Will be my 1st klim gear I ever purchased.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Yeah that heat exhaustion can be a killer, Jeff. Literally. A few years back we heard about a fit guy in his 30s who died at our local riding area. He was baking in a black compression suit. He took a break and told his buddies to ride on. They eventually came back and he was passed out. Died shortly afterwards.

[@jeffbrownell279]

@@crosstrainingenduro that is terrible.We just lost a young guy with a wife and kid and another the way. Crash at a hare scramble and the community trying to help wife out with fund raisers.I am 61 and I just can't take hot weather anymore.At 80 degrees I simply don't ride.Good thing is in Michigan those temps are rare compared to down south.Going to also get the klim vented jersey.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Similar here, Jeff. Over 86F we don't ride which means very little riding through our summer. Adventure riding is usually okay as we can keep moving for the airflow. The Klim vented jersey is good! I mistakenly used one of my other jerseys last week and could really notice the lack of airflow. Still in great shape despite crashes and getting jabbed by sticks etc.

[@gonegliding2966]

I ended up with revit gear. Seems to be quite good. Thanks for your review

[@crosstrainingenduro]

No problem 👍

[@timpmcfadden]

100% agree. Jersey and pants are great. Gloves were uncomfortable and take a long time to break in. I prefer alpinestars or fox thin gloves.

[@Rob-ht7mo]

I've found FLY patrol pant and jersey to hold up very well in the 2 years I've had them. Good ventilation and pockets, and can get the set for under $200 US

[@mikeob6410]

Rocky Mountain ATV has end of season close outs on gear. You can sometimes get some really good deals. I've been using Klim gear for 20 years. I have the Mojave for most of the year, and the Dakar for winter time.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

What size discount? Much smaller market in Australia so you have to keep your eyes peeled...

[@ryanmuller4965]

Thanks for the review B. I'm continuously dissatisfied with the riding gear from the major brands. Especially Fox. I will now be on the look out for Klìm gear. Cheers.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Cheers Ryan, hope you can get a good discount for last year's gear or something like that.

[@TommyNitro]

I have a pair of Kilm's over the boots pants, and a pair of Mosko Moto's in the boot pants. Like them both. Neither were cheap (even with the MM on sale). Both built very well.

[@gophop]

I think I've got 8 or 9 XC Lite pants. I ride ~300hrs a year. I swap gear after each full-day ride (5-6hrs). Have to have many sets, so I can do gear laundry every 2 weeks. I've tossed 2 pairs of those pants to date. I bushwack a lot. About 60hrs or so, and the rips and the missing chunks are too many. It only takes 3 washes for the knee leather patches to shrivel up. They stretch out once you start riding in them. But can be annoying to slide over the knee braces. The pant's lifespan is only behind Fly F16 (no mesh on these). Most of the damage to all of my pants is actually from footpeg snags. You can't blame the gear there. The only pants I've owned that had split seams, long before fabric tears, were Fox. I've got 2 Mojave jerseys. The fit is terrible. They're unreasonably wide with very long sleeves. Not sure who Klim had in mind for these. I've never seen a dentist with such proportions. Small Mojave fits like a Large Answer/Seven/Oneal. My perfect fit is a Medium from Fly or Seven.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I would think about the XC Lite if I manage to wear out the Mojave as I figure they'd be a bit lighter. Bummer about the jersey fit. I have heard a few riders who reckon Klim gear is designed more for guys in their 40s and over for middle age spread?

[@husaislander4838]

i have 2 pair of Klim Dakar in the boot pants. I have had them both for 3 years. Still in great shape. As for jersey and gloves i just buy what ever is on sale at clear out prices

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I've been pretty disappointed with all dirt bike gloves and just get work gloves from the hardware store now. They last a lot longer.

[@Michael_Shay]

One thing worth noting, at least this is true for the US as far as I know. Klim requires their retailers to sell klim stuff to employees at cost, rather than whatever employee discount the place normally offers. So if you can make a buddy at a retailer, it'll save you even more money :)

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Interesting!

[@jeffshultz7427]

I love my Klim gear! It is very well made and durable. It is definitely heavier feeling than a lot of other brands but does vent very well.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I like the heavier feel of the Mojave pants as they are still well ventilated. Whereas my brother says he's prefer lighter material and is thinking of the XC Lite pants intead... if they come up on special.

[@russpaton8877]

I have the same Klim Mojavie Combo I bought 3 years ago and ride in all summer here in BC and for my 3 weeks to a month in the southwest USA desert each year. One or two cactus or branch tears in the jersey have been small. Will replace with same.

[@Zerotys_ADV]

I would like to try out Klim, but they're always sold out of my size, which is probably too small. I'd love to find pants for the big/tall fellas.

[@Yourfriendwasmagnificent]

Can't comment on the milK gear but I've been happy with a Fly Racing over the boot pants and jersey. Learning new skills, I tend to soil test often but no tearing so far. An O'Neil jersey has also been good too.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

We canvassed 100s of rider feedback comments on various brands and I think Fly came out second after Klim.

[@Ivan-zf6wd]

Bought the Klim Baja S4 gloves and the stitching around the index finger on both hands broke and opened up after only a few thousand kilometers. That's quite disappointing considering the price, however I did get the Mojave pants and so far they are quite good and durable.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Yep. It seems plenty of riders find the Klim gloves are fine but we hear enough negative reports to suggest it's worth looking elsewhere for gloves.

[@paulbartsch1223]

My Mojave itb pants are great in North Queensland weather. I have a couple of Klim jerseys which stand up really well.

[@jaysutton6307]

what is the bag you had on your hande bar?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Handmade by an Aussie rider. Expensive but does some awesome leather stuff. www.kellyenduroproducts.com.au/kelly-handle-bar-bag/

[@TheFoxyt2]

Love my old Mojave pants. 3 hard seasons. Wear holes from knee braces But I don’t care. Tried every klim shirt but love Mojave. My fav gloves are Dakar and I have every klim glove too. The f3 helmet is stellar too. Klim pants and gloves are #1

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Good to know the gloves are working out, it's the one bit of Klim gear that seems to be hit and miss for a lot of riders. My brother is thinking of the F3 as his Airoh is getting a bit ratty. Quite light?

[@foxymcrider1173]

@@crosstrainingenduro yes, the f3 is very lightweight, but we also love the fidlock system for easy on/off strap. I love your vids, keep them coming!

[@markusleyerer8231]

I wear a Fox Legion itb pant and sometimes the Legion Jacket when it‘s colder in europe for 4 years now. The pants are great. The jackets has some rips in the meantime. But maybe im a lucky guy 😅

[@brianlafollette7530]

Have a hodgepodge of gear that was "close out"

[@unclegeek]

KLIM is best. ONLY GEAR I USE. Buy once and only change when a color suits your fancy. LOVE KLIM

[@firffighter]

I have 2 sets of Mojave pants, OTB and standard. They are both 10+ years old. KLIM is expensive, but worth the cost in durability.

[@RobsNeighbor]

Great work! Love the channel!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

😎👍

[@Danger_mouse]

0:27 I don't know about the Klim gear, but that balding guy in the background should be avoided at all costs 🤣

[@crosstrainingenduro]

A true Sherco fiend if ever there was one. 😂👍

[@ffsdirtbike]

Always great videos !

[@airadaimagery692]

Why do you choose Mojave over Dakar?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

More ventilated for riding in our subtropical weather

[@Jimo368]

I also find the knee pockets too low on the Dakar pant.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Seems to be a common complaint. A shame they didn't make that adjustable pocket a bit longer.

[@take5th]

You wash the pants?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I use the air technique... just get up to 80kmh the final km back to the car so that the rushing air cleans the pants. 😂

[@enduro-parts-aus]

Im interested in switching to klim gloves anyone tried them?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I did piles of research on Klim before starting to use their gear. In a nutshell? Generally the pants, jerseys and jackets are top notch as rated by plenty of riders. But the gloves can be hit and miss. Some guys rave about them. Others say the quality ain't great for how much you pay. Here's our summary from reading hundreds of rider comments: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnu1gKVmZ8xshqs And here's our summary of gloves after reading a pile of feedback: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmevf5ZnbseCmLc

[@timothym2241]

The pants and jersey are the best I own. They have really held up.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

is that Thor?

[@timothym2241]

@@crosstrainingenduro The Klim Mojave.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

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[@eugenesimons3726]

MSR. On sale best l Gloves ever. Usually 8 American at rocky

[@TraviNomotion]

Klim, FXR, and Troy lee are the best 3 tbh

[@crosstrainingenduro]

We did a survey of rider opinions which came up with Klim, Fly and Troy Lee as the top three. I suspect FXR is pretty new as we couldn't even find any comments, although it is now available here in Oz. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnu1gKVmZ8xshqs

[@TraviNomotion]

@@crosstrainingenduro yeah FXR has only been around since 2014 in the dirtbike game it’s quite popular in Canada and it’s gaining traction in pro Mx but still small compared to the giants

[@Greeny_Machiney]

Should have mentioned the Klim non-In-the-boot pants are more expensive…

[@crosstrainingenduro]

But I don't think they do an over-the-boot style anymore, the last year it was offered appears to be 2022. If you can find a current verseion on the Klim website (with the higher price) let me know and I'll add it to the pinned first comment.

[@lhurst9550]

Careful with klim, you'll spend more than you did on your bike.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

True dat. 😂 The enduro gear is about on par with the 'premium' stuff in other brands and sometimes cheaper. The adventure gear can go through the roof though.