"Klingon Battle" with the V'ger Cloud - Star Trek TMP Remade

[@alanhare8046]

Seeing the opening of ST:TMP on opening night in 1979 at the big theater in 70mm was breathtaking. One of the best movie openings I have ever experienced...

[@alanhare8046]

There is a movie house in my area that shows older movies on a regular basis, usually as a midnight movie.

[@jamesmartin9401]

Actually, when they rolled around the ships, it had an IMAX-type effect and I actually got a little nauseous, but in a cool, wow, way.

[@plastique45]

Same here buddy, same here.

[@jurassickaiju14]

@Rover7577 I first saw this movie on my family's old VHS player when I was just three. I was absolutely blown away by it, and I've loved the movie ever since, slow paced warts and all. I only wish I'd gotten the chance to see it in theaters.

[@travisjames3517]

VGER did initiate contact with the Klingons, but the hail was so fast they didn’t detect it, just like VGER did with the Enterprise. Luckily, Spock picked it up in time and signaled back before they were “downloaded.”

[@vulcan-raven7394]

Jerry Goldsmith's score is absolutely brilliant during this particular sequence.

[@hermitcrabbot]

If this scene was a musical encounter, it might be most properly labeled as ( In Japanese Sci-Fi Monster terms ) 'Celine Dion, Whitney Houston and Beyonce' meet Sarah Brightman'.

[@enriquesanchez2001]

BUT THE SOUNDS - - - were invented by CRAIG HUXLEY [www.imdb.com/name/nm0402137/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm] - NOT Jerry Goldsmith.

[@nel1962]

Enrique Sanchez he invented the instrument but played according to goldsmiths composition. It was goldsmith creative decision to use the blaster beam.

[@nel1962]

It’s brilliant in every scene!

[@Vejur9000]

Jerry’s iconic score makes this cosmic tale come alive. A living machine of unspeakable power, whose mission was to “learn all that was learnable” about the universe… till it gathered so much knowledge and power, it became conscious.

[@edwardpate6128]

The D7/K'tinga battle cruiser, my favorite scifi ship ever!

[@Admiral8Q]

Best looking Klingon "Battle Cruiser" I agree.

[@Smeginator]

I will say, especially when the V'Ger torpedo is approaching the Klingon ships, you certainly managed to capture just how damn VAST space is (for me, at any rate)

[@alexpalmer9101]

Very nice job. I like how you combined the 'classic' shots with brand new ones. It's like seeing old and new working together, and very well at that.

[@BobM925]

Beautifully done. TMP is actually my favorite trek film for some reason... Anyway, good old Klingons, if in doubt fire a load of torpedoes at it!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

I love it too, it has some beautiful scenes and amazing music.

[@Jalfmar3]

Very true to the original scene. Extremely well executed, even with the minor copyright adjustments. The K't'ingas are still one of the most sinister looking ships ever. They were, dare I say, sexy wicked.

[@TheSaneHatter]

I've long said, that those ships *look* like they mean business.

[@jamesmartin9401]

Nick Hentschel When you think about the original D-7 design from the era of saucers and flying cigars, it was way, way ahead of it's time.

[@TheSaneHatter]

James Martin That, it was, perhaps even more so than the Enterprise (which is saying quite a bit)! That's one, critical thing that sci-fi owes (at least in part) to the Trek franchise: more inventive ship designs that broke the Hollywood mold.

[@artlee2285]

Jalfmar3 I like the D7 too. I would not want to be an engineer on one though.

[@seandriscoll4466]

Jalfmar3 Sar trek

[@JonnyHolms]

I can't believe how much time has gone by since this movie was made.

[@stasiuwong]

👍This is an awesome recreation👍! I enjoy a lot of cool new details: the blue light cast on the ships, the POV of the first probe speeding to the first victim, and the third probe eats up the torpedo with an extra flash. Best of all is how the ships are deeply silhouetted against the cloud. I think the only thing missing is witnessing the first torpedoes disappearing one by one in the cloud as suggested by the computer screen in the original movie.

[@Tagiomaki1701]

Absolutely STUNNING! A huge improvement over the movie version of this scene, and the camera angles, sound, and lighting are TOP notch :)

[@damienkramer]

Hard disagree. That’s pretty disrespectful to the model makers and film crew who worked really hard to create the effects in the 1970’s.

[@LancetFencing]

absolute best remake I’ve seen so far Fantastic!

[@innerboostaffirmations]

Love the sound those photon torpedoes make. Good job in duplication of all the sound effects.

[@jurassickaiju14]

3:10 This shot might just be my favorite part of the whole video. The way it captures the vastness of space and the Amar's newfound loneliness is amazing.

[@1138thz]

The Klingon D-7 Battle Cruiser is the best looking ship to have ever come out of the Star Trek franchise. The Enterprise looks like the Love Boat by comparison. The D-7 Looks like a pure warship.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

Yes but remember Federation starships are not weapons of war.

[@1138thz]

VideoSpaceFX and thus the Love Boat

[@tdrewman]

I just had a flash back to 1979, North Carolina, watching this for the first time as a kid. I am lost for words. This is awesome !!

[@blindandwatching]

I've always gotten a certain perverse pleasure watching the Klingons get stored so that V'ger can analyse them later to figure out what they were doing.

[@mikeb6033]

one thing I like about this over the movie version is this version shows all 3 Klingon ships being destroyed, whereas the movie version only shows 2 getting destroyed, even though there were 3 ships.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

To be fair that may have been done for pacing reasons. In the original scene you also had the cut-aways to the Epsilon 9 station. I think it works better without those scenes actually.

[@flickmonger87]

YES! THIS! I've always been like, "well, what happened to the 3rd ship?" Now I have my answer!

[@andymac4883]

Honestly, I'd always assumed the third ship was digitised offscreen, while the camera was focused on Epsilon 9.

[@InkySquid17]

I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. This scene creates more atmosphere than the entire 2009 Star Trek attempt. Thanks for the upload, it looks great.

[@yumsy37]

I think its really interesting that the weapon is essentially a teleporter and then the information is then stored within V'ger.

[@TONYGILLEY]

At 2:37 I really love the reveal of V'Ger's energy blasts. Nothing bombastic but subtle enough for you to think "Oh sh*t" The starship equivalent of a good horror scene playing out.

[@BigBennKlingon]

wow. thanks for making this! as a kid this was one of my all time fav sci-fi scenes. would watch the scene over and over on vhs - while rarely ever watching the full movie

[@noscwoh1]

You are fast becoming my KZbin hero. The old D9 K't'inga cruisers have never looked so elegant. Even without the dialog and reaction shots, this perfectly captures the terror of the original. Looking forward to your next vid!

[@fc231]

These battle cruisers were always my favorite. Seeing the D7 make its debut again when my brother took me to see STVI:THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY at the theaters gave me good chills. Everyone clapped when it uncloaked and stood side by side the Enterprise :D

[@christhornley1664]

Brilliant! You've managed to augment the sequence from the original in both sound and vision. Also improved sequencing in the fact that we see all three Klingon cruisers destroyed by the immensely powerful cloud. The switch to the Epsilon 9 Space Station in the original sequence was a distraction. Most excellent, and very impressive! Congratulations!

[@JovianJeff]

That was fantastic! Breathtaking vista with sounds I remember as well as the music all integrated for an improved visual treat. I think you did an outstanding job with this.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@timeoftroubles I didn't leave them out because I would have had to rip them from the DVD and add them to my created footage. I didn't do that for copyright reasons and because I wanted to include new shots not just copy directly from the movie.

[@AdhamOhm]

I've always thought of V'ger's weapon as some kind of transporter device. It "beams up" an object and turns it into a digital data stream, much like a normal transporter would, but instead of making the object rematerialize somewhere else, V'ger stores the object in its memory... permanently. Great video, by the way.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

This discussion has cropped up alot on here. Basically V'ger was already traveling FTL and so the Klingons were at warp here already, although the way they move around and stuff goes against everything we have seen of ships travelling at warp only going in the forward direction.

[@rpsmith221]

Very nice job. I also remember seeing this in the theater. This is an awesome recreation.

[@phillipgathright8001]

Such an awesome beginning to what turned out to be a rather dull movie. Love the "Klingon Theme!"

[@archangel72367]

Best recreation EVER!!! Love the Torp effects and the perspective from the cloud watching the last KTinga trying to get away. AWESOME

[@ScottGammans]

I've seen several attempts at recreating this iconic scene from "Star Trek: The Motionless Picture" and this is by far my favorite. Kudos for doing your own thing with many of the camera angles... I think my two favorite bits were the energy ball POV hitting the first cruiser, and the torpedo getting "swallowed" by the last energy ball. Very cool. :)

[@JMChladek]

Pacing and timing was spot on, down to what was not seen, but implied on the Epsilon Nine monitors (when the first Klingon got fried). Beautifully done.

[@stromulanwars]

I have seen a bunch of these redoing the Klingon Battle but, THS is the Best I've seen! I love it!

[@btly-wing6531]

This was the best scene of the first movie for me, and this remake looks even better

[@Jayshuh1]

This is great work, why Robert Wise couldn't vision this type of battle so you could understand the power that the Klingons were fighting was just his lack of understanding of Star Trek and what the fans expected from this Motion Picture .. You have done a great job here, first rate !! Thank you .. Continued success !!

[@hermitcrabbot]

V'ger has returned, and is currently collecting data patterns of carbon-based infestations during her Dreamchaser Tour of North America.

[@livingchutoy5422]

Even now, in 2014, these effects are still excellent. Star Trek Movies have always Impressed. This one is still one of my top fav Sci-fi flicks

[@SovietHampsterLord]

Christopher Adams Are you serious? clearly this is just a nostalgic statement. Yes, the effects are very impressive for the time but they absolutely do NOT hold up. I'm a star trek fan but what a fucking joke your comment is.

[@seanfee2198]

Christopher Adams Agreed. They did a top notch job of model-making and cinematography, and it stands up moderately well to today's effects standards. It's really too bad some people can't remain civil when they disagree, instead of resorting to unnecessary hostility.

[@johnwrigley1728]

+Sean Fee I agree with you on that everyone is entitled to their opinions without resorting to swearing 👍👍

[@boradis]

I'm like Chris Schuette above and saw the film in the theater. In retrospect yes it is long and tedious. But at the time I was utterly awestruck by how totally real everything felt. Just seeing the Klingon cruisers from different angles, with bridges that looked like feudal castles with their windows all lit up astounded me.

[@flatshade]

Masterfully recreated. I remember seeing the ST TMP at the cinema back then as a child and V'ger and its ability to erase things so easily out of existence seriously scared me. =D

[@TankUni]

This is really well done - particularly the lightning-materialization fx.

[@jamieolberding7731]

VideoSpaceFX 15.2K subscribers The Klingon K't'inga class Battle Cruiser's and V'Ger look totally awesome.

[@Kalaida]

And I thought I was the only one who caught the klingon cruiser firing a second shot at V'Ger's plasma bolt just before it hit the cruiser. Nicely done.

[@vetred]

I downloaded the original scene in 2006 and this makes me D class happy. Middle ship never shown in demise. Cool video Thank You!

[@luthermcgee7586]

The best one yet. Especially when the last klingon ship firing again showing the photon torpedo ineffective, then being " uncreated" took place.

[@cscomposer]

Seriously, very nice job. This was obviously a labor of love and I always enjoy that level of talent. I remember seeing "ST:TMP" in the theatre as a kid with my dad in 1978. Even though I was familiar with high-quality FX after seeing "Star Wars," for some reason, I expected this film to look exactly like the lower-budget TV show (eh, I was 8.) Needless to say, I was blown away by the actual film. Again, nice job!

[@turboshaft77]

That was a brilliant remade sequence from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Fantastic! Loved how you filled in the gaps of live action parts too. :)

[@voyager202000]

Very nice recreation!!!! Proof positive that this site has the best talent on the planet!!!! Well done and live long and prosper!

[@seanahmed9079]

Star Trek the great Sci-Fi TV show where a space battle is about as exciting as a submarine fight

[@mikefalderoff8236]

These effects are much MUCH better than even the "directors cut" version !!!!

[@directeducation2890]

No matte lines and better lighting! Fantastic!

[@ericwebguy]

this is in *many* ways scarier and more intense than the original. I REALLY ENJOYED IT, GREAT WORK!!

[@IRJustman]

I think the truck-pan shot around the perimeter of the cloud just in front of the ships really conveyed how much deep doo-doo the Klingons had stepped into. I have to wonder how long it will be when someone takes all these wonderful effects shots I see here on KZbin and knits them together with the original movie to make a full feature. Ever since I saw 405 The Movie back in 2001, I never cease to be amazed by the creativity and ingenuity of people like yourself.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@TruthWatch Lol, I didn't delete them because I would have had to rip them from the DVD and add them to my created footage. I didn't do that for copyright reasons.

[@Arctic_Fox_NFFC]

This is extremely impressive. For a minute I thought I was watching the film. Kept waiting for the bridge scene.

[@martok2112]

My jaw just dropped !Extremely well done! :) I like how you also accounted for the first Klingon K't'inga getting zapped. This was most impressive! :)

[@Xonx68]

Fantastic job with this! You made some beautiful improvements while still keeping the "feel" of the original very nicely! Awesome work!

[@HalloranIllustrations]

That was unbelieveably EPIC! Right down to the V'GER effect of the weapon. Fantastic job my friend. Very action packed and thrilling.

[@Saracen11]

Amazing piece of work. I really liked the detail on the ship exteriors.

[@jamieolberding7731]

The Klingon K'Tinga class Battlecruisers are really awesome!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

The sound fx are sourced from ST video games. Budget 3D software I would suggest are Blender or Truespace (both free i believe). This was made using 3dsmax.

[@posews6]

Happy to see what happened to the third cruiser. Movie never showed it!! Great work as always.

[@martok2112]

This was a nice shoot! Good looking models, and I loved a lot of the embellished or additional shots...a few of which I would've loved to see in the actual motion picture. Also liked that this video depicted the "digitization" of the third Klingon cruiser. Loved the photon torpedo effects too. Kudos to all artists involved. :)

[@VideoSpaceFX]

They certainly are impressive. I'm not sure I would think of that as neccesarily an inconsistency since V'ger may be able to rearrange it's internal structures so going through the orifice leads to different areas. I do love the shot of the actual V'ger ship at Earth that's in the Dir. Ed.

[@Bynk333]

Epic battle fail, bud legendary Klingon theme :-)

[@Raj0684rg]

Beautiful and skillfully done.

[@jukodebu]

hay girl

[@squat666]

Absolutely beautiful. Great sound, CG and best of all, no people. You should be proud of yourself. My only criticism is when you strafe left across all three ships, I give you 9.99/ 10.00

[@VideoSpaceFX]

I'll take that!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@logandarklighter That might explain why in scenes where the Enterprise is moving into the cloud its impulse engines are not on but the warp nacelles are glowing as if at warp.

[@mthai66]

V'ger + Paralax + Galactus = Insane Cloud Posse

[@TheMrCJist]

Awesome view of one of the ships at 1:45. The photon torpedo tubes are warmed up and you are looking along the 'neck' of the ship towards the bow which is facing the cloud...like looking along the barrel of an impressively big loaded gun. You still get the impression this is a futile act, they might as well be trying to hurt Godzilla with a pea shooter.

[@meloralovesdarkness2495]

Better than the Opening! GREAT Job!

[@pdex2165]

Just randomly came across this. Excellent work, sir!

[@roman0robert]

Well done! I've seen a number of 'remades' and this one is nice and clean. Enjoyed it. Many thanks.

[@ferenchorvath5478]

The music for this scene was phenomenal best part of the whole movie I think

[@newdefsys]

That and Persis Khambatta's legs

[@VideoSpaceFX]

Lol, thanks but it's just a video I made for fun. If Paramount re-did this scene now in a modern style it would be all the super fast cuts and shaky camera crap.

[@edrdnc6706]

THIS SCENE: Love the "Continuing to attack" background music. Hate that they followed the Hollywood trope of the "ship passing", and torpedo firing sounds in space. Curious that they never explained why starships were so close together. Perhaps overlapping shields allowed the center one to concentrate their shield energy forward, making the leader better protected? THIS CLIP: It's edited in a way that makes it quite confusing. the torpedo's fate are not shown. Also the counter-torpedo appears to hit the white incoming sphere and for a moment it looks like it was divided into two spheres.

[@coundsnowbunny]

Oh that's really good. And that was 10 years ago ... wow!

[@VideoSpaceFX]

I think I added a gradient material onto the model in 3D and keyframed it so that it moved from one side to the other how I wanted. Using that in addition to a normal render of the ship allowed me to create the effect of the disappearance along with multiple instances of lightning.

[@fredfungalspore]

You could not compose a better score for this scene.Just perfect......

[@OpenMawProductions]

Very well done CGI! Wow. Some very nice reinterpretations, also. I always found it interesting that people don't realize... This entire sequence is at warp. V'ger is moving at warp towards Earth. The Klingons are trying to fight this thing whilst at warp.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

I think it's the Cloud in it's entirety and the filament structures are only visible as you get much closer rather like Saturn's rings look like solid structures.

[@user6971it]

this is stunning,just as good as the original if not better

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@tracknights Yes well actually in the film when they disappear on the Klingon viewscreen I was thinking that was perhaps them going out of range of the sensors rather than being neutralised or something, because the cloud was so large.

[@BattlestarPacifica]

Gotta love Klingon diplomacy, shoot first and then again :) Excellent work!!!

[@christhorton6512]

Very very nicely done. I like the way you respected the original compositions from the original film because they were so well done at the time. Very nice.

[@LarryRusso]

Supremely Awesomely Done !!!! - incredible - I always loved that last attempt shot the Klingon Ship fired as they got plasma -ed to death - fantastic concept and very well done - CHEERS !!

[@Eviltot]

I've been obsessed with V'Ger since watching the movie as a kid. :)

[@montedoran9305]

AWESOME I love this version WAY BETTER than original and director's cut

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@nsbwastaken Elements of the sound come from the PAL DVD version of TMP, and when they convert 24fps films into PAL, which is 25fps, they just play it faster (104.17% speed actually), so the pitch will be slightly higher in the sound. It's something you notice when you buy soundtracks, you think that doesn't sound right if you're used to watching PAL movies. To me the soundtrack version is too low pitch because I am used to it from the DVD.

[@Admiral8Q]

V-GER. "If you spit in my face, I will spit back harder then you can imagine."

[@VideoSpaceFX]

@captjami Thanks. The only problem with that is the copyright issue with using footage from the film.

[@VideoSpaceFX]

Yes I also had a very worn-out VHS recorded from the TV before the things called DVDs came out.

[@tjhaywood100]

Very impressive Martok!! Looks a lot better in CGI without the matte lines!

[@brian-s-foxx]

I want to compliment you on your optical effects. I’ve watched literally dozens and dozens of fan made Star Trek battles here on KZbin and for some reason NO ONE gets Photon Torpedoes right! Not even those guys making Axanar come close to your accurately. Most people’s Photon Torpedoes look kind of weak and wimpy. Yours look like they really pack a punch! All your other optical effects are top notch as well. Great modeling to.

[@jayandrew2000]

As Kirk mentioned in his log, the intruder was traveling at warp speed toward Earth. Based on that, one could assume that the cloud and the Klingon ships were already at warp, and the production team left out the warp effect for a more visually appealing opening battle sequence. Also, while the Enterprise was inside the V'Ger cloud, it was reported that it had reduced in size (as mentioned earlier) and slowed to sub-warp velocity.

[@paulm.newitt3246]

Back in '83 when I interviewed Mark Stetson (FX modeler for ST-TMP) for my SFAM 4 book, he said that in the scene when the port Graf unit comes into close view--they had battle-damaged "guts" made of handfuls of twisted resistors painted black to simulate inner damage. Andy Probert suggested an alternative ending: V'Ger dissipates, the three D-7s rematerialized @ Earth, only to begin thumping on the Enterprise. An emergency saucer sep, to chase away the Klingons, then fade out: "The End".

[@daveybernard1056]

This is exactly analogous to my experiences with algebra in the 9th grade. Primitive brute rushes headlong into The Unknown, gets disintegrated ignominiously.

[@blkmanbat]

This is Great! Well Done!! I don't care about all the STTMP haters. The Movie was good. Read the book.... It was very good!!! Jerry Goldsmith is (was) a master music composer! He in my opinion made the movie!! Please give a thumbs up for Mr. Goldsmith!!!!!!

[@starsiegeplayer]

This is well done. I like that you used different angles and motion.

[@mikejames4648]

Nicely done, you showed the manoeuvring much better than the original.