The Dark Mystery Behind Zsasz in Arkham Knight...

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Ever wondered what Zsasz was doing in Batman Arkham Knight? Well, here's a theory explaining the mystery behind Zsasz and his secret side mission in Arkham Knight...
Batman Arkham Knight is an extremely detailed game, with many brief references and appearances such as Victor Zsasz showing up on the Clocktower footage. However, Zsasz's short appearance was originally supposed to be much much more, where he was going to have an entire side mission in Arkham Knight before it got cut from the game. What was this side mission, and how was it supposed to play out for us as the players? Well, I did some digging, and I think I uncovered the mystery behind Zsasz in Batman Arkham Knight.
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0:00 - Intro
0:35 - NordVPN
1:55 - Helicopter Crash
8:45 - Zsasz's path through the city
11:41 - The side mission
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[@Knerdd]

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[@user-th4nm9er2n]

If you think about it, the panessa room where zsass could've hid there but. Clay face. Theres clay all over the seats and stuff so i think its zsass and clayfaces they could've worked together beacuse the boat outside of the room is frm arkham city and they both in arkham city so they coul've driven there together

[@graygarrison3114]

​@@user-th4nm9er2nThey probably sadly ran out of room to squeeze Victor Zsazz in the Game at least that is My theory for why He was cut out but there could 2 billion other reasons since I don't work for Anyone Who made The Batman Arkham Games We will probably sadly never get a full answer😢.

[@lera-po8uh]

Hmmm. Bruce Wayne is rich and he can probably afford a family account for all the other sidekicks.

[@idk-kk4cq]

Nord vpn is actually quite bad but I understand you got paid for it, cant blame you 😂

[@graygarrison3114]

@@idk-kk4cq What does Nord vpn have anything to do with what We were talking about? Also what is so bad about it? I have never used Nord vpn before.

[@TheWaffleEdits]

This is actually an extremely well put together theory. I hope someone could someday recreate the side mission

[@Knerdd]

Facts, we need some elite modders on the job to put this together for us lol

[@jamestoner3900]

​​​​@@Knerddgreat theory, it's a shame we never got to see Zsasz in Arkham Knight, I always assumed The Helicopter Crash at Elliott Memorial Hospital was how Prometheus would have been introduced, Prometheus does have a psychological urge to kill Cops and anyone involved with Law Enforcement. he was supposed to be in Arkham Knight Season of Infamy DLC, I also have a theory that if this Zsasz side mission happened, Zsasz would likely have revealed to Batman where his mark would go if he killed batman: the final tally on his head. Genius 😊, shame we never got to see Zsasz interact with the other villains in GCPD Lockup Do Side Mission ideas for Black Mask and Prometheus (since they were originally supposed to be in The Arkham Knight Season of Infamy DLC) do potential ideas for Clayface, Solomon Grundy, Calendar Man and Deadshot

[@Need_Fo_Speed]

Omg, this is wonderful

[@jamestoner3900]

​@@Knerddwhat would Zsasz's Side Mission be called???

[@goldencupcake9386]

​@@jamestoner3900 I think a good name would be the tally marks

[@ADayForeverGreen]

Excellent detective work to everyone involved here. Bruce would be proud. It's wild that think that Rocksteady ended up getting that far in development for a side mission just to cut it at the last possible second. And it's even wilder to think that they could have included it in the Season of Infamy DLC later and didn't. I suppose they could claim “we couldn’t really think of a neat new way for you to combat Zsasz in Knight that wasn’t derivative of how you battled him in earlier games.” But I mean…you literally glide kick him and bop him with a batarang in Asylum. He’s a tutorial boss twice in that game. And in City, he’s a puzzle room that ends with a “Press Triangle to Fuck Zsasz Up”. They didn’t need to design much for a boss fight. Honestly, if they had just designed a room filled with hostages for Zsasz to kill and the confrontation was all done in a tense cutscene that ended with a Batclaw Disarm and a Beatdown, I’d have been happy.

[@tonts5329]

Can you imagine if they kept him in the main game and Zsasz was locked up in that same cell with Simon Stagg and that Fire Chief? That would be the most awkward/uncomfortable cell to be locked in, those two relatively normal guys in there with Scarecrow, Firefly, Pyg, Riddler, Azrael, Deathstroke, Two-Face. Penguin AND Zsasz?! Oh and the potential commentary from the Joker on Zsasz being locked up too.

[@VariableZero]

@@tonts5329 “See, Bats? The lunatic has a point! Why waste your time fighting for these idiots when I’ll eventually take over and kill them all anyway? Let go! Get crazy! Let Uncle J come out to play.” The guys at Rocksteady could do it better, but that’s how I imagine the situation would play out.

[@someguyontheinternet.3318]

@@VariableZeroZsasz has really fallen of the mark hasn’t he Bats? Hahahahaha! But don’t fear Brucey boy, oh actually do I need a bit more of that delicious fear toxin from our friend Crane the crocodile snack and I’ll be in control. Maybe then Zsasz will have his salavtion, an amazing punchline a final mark as I carve smile onto his face like a thanksgiving turkey hahahah. Speaking of Turkeys, where is the frozen TV dinner freeze, he failed to get me cure!”

[@VariableZero]

@@someguyontheinternet.3318 That’s actually much better.

[@someguyontheinternet.3318]

@@VariableZero I just tried to use Arlham Asylums dialogue as a guide whilst trying to cater to city, knights and orgins takes on him. I’m glad to hear that yoy liked it. I liked yours too.

[@yessirskiG]

Videos like this shows how amazing this game is. 8 years since it’s release and people are still coming up with great theories around this masterpiece.

[@elderliddle2733]

Love the theory but could use a bit of tweaking. I don’t think scarecrow would want a wild card like Zsasz out ruining the pace of his plans. I would say the bribe was actually to kill him. Make it look like a failure with the helicopter. As for the side quest: Batman would, like you suggested, find victims around the city posed. The commonality between them was the use of props. The one we can find uses a fishing pole. The props can be traced back to the movie studios. That’s how Batman would track him. In the boss encounter, it’s stealth like before. You sneak your way up and choke him out.

[@Knerdd]

Wow I love your idea that Batman would use the props to find Zsasz's location, that's actually so smart

[@ShadowDemon_4]

I wish developers would let the public see unreleased ideas. Anytime I see art or concepts of ideas that never make it to the full game (like the giant clayface drawing in B:AK) I always wonder what if, and what their idea at the time was.

[@honoramongscars649]

Speaking of that concept art... in the same art book it was apart of (AK Collector's Edition) we can see a Jokerized Gordon on one of the television screens.

[@randallflagg3700]

As a massive Prometheus fanboy, I really wish we could see everything they had planned for him for the Arkham Knight "Season of Infamy" DLC (he was likely replaced by Mad Hatter, who we know was originally supposed to be in the main game since the other bat-rogues have unused dialogues with him when they're all locked up)...

[@honoramongscars649]

@@randallflagg3700 My guess is he was supposed to have a similar "find kidnapped police" mission. Since both Zsasz & Pyg's missions revolved around finding clues via crime scene victims... so they seemingly cut Zsasz due to the missions being too similar and overall one was "superior" in how it played how.

[@randallflagg3700]

@@honoramongscars649 - Indeed, it's pretty much an open secret that the Mad Hatter kidnapping police officers was pretty much a reskin of Prometheus' original mission. It's a selfish wish of mine since, as I said, despite the character's flaws I love Prometheus. I really wish that the one we got in season 5 of *Arrow* was more like his early designs, when he actually looked like his comic book counterpart, and had his trademark helmet... ... but hey, the one we ended up getting is a consensus top 3 Arrowverse Big Bad (alongside Reverse Flash and Deathstroke, and close behind them there's Lex Luthor and Zoom) so not all of it is negative. I just want Prometheus to get another chance to shine, his (pretty damn good) feud with *Midnighter* was in 2016 and lasted maybe 10 issues... then *Arrow* season 5 was in 2016/2017.... After that he got exactly *one* quality arc in which he was the Big Bad, in the 2018 JSA storyline called *"Surgical Strike"* , it was only 4 issues long but I loved it. After that, Prometheus was mainly used as a right-hand man for Deathstroke, instead of being his own man. I believe that being in that Arkham Knight DLC would have been a great way to introduce him to casual DC fans. Oh well, maybe one day? After all I used to think that Vigilante (Adrian Chase) would never appeal to the casuals, and the show *Peacemaker* made him extremely popular! Before that he had a great live action adaptation in *Arrow* seasons 5&6, but sadly that didn't seem to gain him a lot of hardcore fans, since there were so many cool characters introduced in this really good season.

[@Crow_Rising]

It would be really cool if games started including "Cut Content" menus that allow us to see concept art, models, voice lines, etc. relating to content that didn't make it into the full game, and some dev thoughts/comments regarding what they were intending the content for and why it didn't make it into the final game. Such a thing could make for a really cool unlockable for finishing the main storyline, and it would help to ensure that whatever work they put into that specific content at least doesn't go entirely to waste.

[@Maikigai]

1. I think it’s a shame we didn’t get a final confrontation with Zsasz or Bane. 2. After being unmasked, I can hear Zsasz saying something about now needing to put two marks on his body - one for Batman and one for Bruce Wayne.

[@sugondeez1708]

Whilst I agree and I love bane, we do get a city story which claims he returned to his home for soul-searching and eventually became a violent vigilante against the drug Lords ruining his home town. Nice closure for him

[@kwayneboy1524]

Something I would like to add is according to some background info on Victor(something I found in the wiki) he's been cutting vital areas of his body too deeply causing damage to himself so maybe that's why he was checked into the hospital.

[@LN031]

That actually makes complete sense, I was like how tf did he check himself in & no one noticed, but the PD bringing him there out of necessity is way more coherent

[@kwayneboy1524]

@@LN031 plus it makes sense as unlike other villains like Penguin and Two-Face who used legal means to get out of prison after Arkham City Victor's clear mental illness and obsession with murder likely made it impossible for him to be released which is why he's still in chains after Arkham city. So it was likely that after Bruce caught him he never got finical compensation and freedom like the other villains.

[@user-re6ev8gq4r]

Bro turned into batman himself.

[@simonlegosson7082]

I have been wondering what the purpose of that empty room was for so long. This theory actually makes a ton of sense. I always just assumed that the crashed helicopter was there to add atmosphere but now that you mention it, it absolutely looks like a half finished crime scene.

[@SirDawkster]

Victor Zsasz has always been an interesting villain to me. A true sociopath with no remorse at all, and the tally marks on his body. Cold Call Killer from Arkham City was masterfully done, and I really wish we got something with Zsasz in Knight too.

[@jacobgold]

zsasz is one of my fave Batman villains, so it's finally nice to know what his side mission would have looked like. Still upset that they cut side missions, most probably because of running out of time from working on the batmobile.

[@AdamCronchey]

Victor Zsasz Side Mission Name: Redslash. a name taken from Zsasz's plotline in Knightfall. Description: Find out what Zsasz is up to in Gotham. Joker's Lines: (when you lock Zsasz up) Be careful Batsy, if a man wants to kill so badly, they don't just need a knife to slaughter. He could straggle, he could snap their necks, and then he gets another couple of scars for his collection. (after speaking to Zsasz in prison) A nihilistic killer with a penchant for scar tissue. A man after my own heart. When I'm in control, he's getting an early parole, and Gotham's getting a bloodbath!

[@andyq524]

I've been looking forward to this since you started teasing it. Not only did it not disappoint, it vastly exceeded my expectations. I've 120% the game at least 4 or 5 times, and I never even noticed the helicopter crash site. I dunno if that's exactly how it would've played out, but it is a really plausible theory with great supporting evidence. Very nicely done!

[@deathstarstallion]

That's crazy that you never noticed the crash site. Pretty sure there's a few things throughout the story that lead you to the top of the hospital

[@Darkz3ed]

@@deathstarstallion I believe there is an Arkham Knight watchpoint in that exact place.

[@user-ek2xg3ps5s]

Just goes to show how much people's attention span deteriorated in the past couple of years

[@themanwiththegoldengooch9811]

I think given its similarities with the Pyg mission it was cut by rocksteady in favour of introducing the new villain. it's a shame though because I think it definitely could have worked as an extra mission in season of infamy

[@captainmichaelstudios]

I remember seeing a table in a building with a bowl of candy, and a knife stabbed into the table. The knife was the same one as the one Zsasz uses. Spooky

[@Knerdd]

Do you know what building it was in?

[@captainmichaelstudios]

@Knerdd I'd have to replay the game to be sure, but I don't remember.

[@Endercreed]

@@captainmichaelstudioslike nothing at all?

[@user-ek2xg3ps5s]

@captainmichaelstudios "me when I spread misinformation on the internet 😜😜😜🤭"

[@lewirog3859]

The problem with this theory is that the bridges for both island are still raised at the point of where zsasz camera footage is filmed, meaning he would’ve had to swim to both islands during his travels. Great theory nonetheless, amazing video.

[@user-jr2zg7bo5r]

This was before the events of the start of the game I think

[@krakenito5248]

I actually have sort of a personal Mandela effect with Zsasz in AK. I could swear that when i first played it and scanned Zsasz at the clocktower, Batman said something about wondering where he's been hiding and that he'll deal with him later. I was shocked when I couldn't make it work on my second playthrough and couldn't find it anywhere on KZbin. I could swear I didn't know about this cut content until much later on.

[@CharlieBear88]

I remember this as well.

[@Mohamad_49Gs]

I remember it two they probably removed it with an update or something

[@user-ek2xg3ps5s]

Well that's gonna keep me up at night I also have a Mandela Effect esque encounter about Asylum (after 100 percenting it), but that's different story entirely

[@IreZico]

Honestly when Zsasz never appeared i was kinda upset because he was one of my fav psychos in batman. Then the dlc side quests released and he still wasn’t apart of it i held out hope. Not long later i noticed someone saying he can be seen on the camera and when i saw it i was so excited…but then to have him cut from the game even tho the voicelines are already complete is extremely upsetting. I wish they would just add the cut dlc. I would give anything for it 😂

[@jaziass]

Thats, literaly the best Batman Arkham Knight vídeo i ever seen

[@alwinuding8926]

Good detective work, detective Knerd👍. I would say the reason they cut this side-mission is, because it would've been to similar to the prof Pyg side-mission. They probably decided to just go with prof Pyg, since he was a character they hadn't used yet.

[@mac1991seth]

There's also some level of similarity with Deacon Blackfire.

[@danieljuries9473]

Dude you're a batman level detective.This is an INSANE and complex theory,awesome vid.👍👍👍

[@blitz1904]

When I was playing the game back in the day, I thought this could be Deadshot because of the similarity of the helicopter going down like in Origins. This is awesome, never knew about the cut Zsasz stuff

[@SvanEsch123]

Honestly if this is how the side mission would play out, it makes sense why they cut it, as finding a killer by investigating bodies and crime scenes is very similar to Pyg’s mission in the same game. I love Pyg and his mission, but it’s a shame Zsasz ended up getting the Bane treatment in being one of two characters to appear in Asylum and not in the grand finale.

[@ryker4398]

Started playing Batman arkham asylum when i was six and have beat each game five times so a video like this showing what could have been is truly amazing to see. Extra note. Any time i had to play Zaszas' side mission in City I would genuinely get scared because of the music and his demeanor.

[@Antec76]

When you were 6?! I was scared enough playing that game when I was 16 🫣😅

[@jaffinator2166]

I think the more likely option is that the Militia shot it down given that exact spot where a watchtower is. Although here’s another idea. The side mission triggers after the Stagg Airship Mission (when the watchtower normally is set up (I’ve played and watched this game way too much)). Alfred tells you about a downed GCPD helicopter on Elliot Memorial Hospital with some suspicious abnormalities at the crime scene. Batman heads over there and finds that the Militia set up a Watchtower and they’re talking about how it’s Zsasz’s last known location and how Scarecrow or the Knight wants it locked down while another strike team searches for him. Apparently because Zsasz is so uncontrollable that Scarecrow wants him out of the picture before he messes with his plans. Batman then takes out the Militia, destroys the Watchtower, then pieces together what happened.

[@crangejo]

it's an idea allright, but it's probably not true, Zsasz already has a backstory within Arkham Knight

[@user-ek2xg3ps5s]

This actually makes more sense to me, as the damage to the helicopter's tail looks more similar to a big caliber sniper rifle shot, than from the 2 pipes that were supposedly tied to it (and then not a single policeman noticed it before the takeoff ?)

[@emptymelodies3316]

Amazing video. Beautifully edited. Not only did you show us evidence of the side mission but then you put it all together to show what it’d probably be like. Absolutely amazing.

[@strickmamale2253]

Even though this side mission was replaced with The Perfect Crime, I still think that Rocksteady could’ve included this in the Season of Infamy DLC to make it up to the fans.

[@Dippydipdip]

You make great stuff. And this is probably the best one yet-those little pieces left behind are fascinating. And the way you present it all makes it perfect

[@DerFalke86]

i like when creators enable Click counters on the time stamps and its allways nice to see that almost everyone skips the sponsor xD

[@Dylanshaw]

This was really, really well put together. I got so invested in the storyline! Well done on this

[@matthewsmith7059]

Brooo I can tell so much attention to detail and time that went into this video and putting the video out as a whole . Great job! I fully believe the side mission was all that you said and I love how you ended it with his dialogue and how it would’ve looked . Love the arkham content 👏

[@gothamgymnast4638]

Amazing work, congratulations to everyone who helped discover all this. It's insane how we are still finding new stuff about this game years down the line!

[@Carpediemdeluxe]

More of these kinds of videos, I'm rewatching this one right now!

[@The_Phantasm]

Would you ever comsider reaching out to someone who worked on the game to ask them what the mission was about and ehy it might have been cut?

[@jordancooper1592]

Zsasz was replaced with Professor Pyg

[@toddcooper521]

This game is my guilty pleasure as I find myself playing it through about once a month or so. This vid is so thorough at pointing out all these clues that connects all these missed details in the game that it's making me want to go check all these places for myself the next time I play it.

[@CallMeGideon-hp1hj]

This is one of the most strung together Arkham theories I’ve heard and I’ve heard a lot

[@arisfeloukas6613]

Let's goooo I was waiting days for this keep up the good work❤❤❤.

[@starbright592]

Great job as always ❤

[@mateodavino999]

Amazing video bro. You deserve thousands of more views for this. Thank you for this. Now I can officially add this to the Arkham canon events list of theories that I view as canon in the Arkham verse that were never officially revealed

[@kingjb554]

Bruh I knew he had a cut side mission but I never thought it could be this intense. This might not be exactly what was planned but you put together a helluva story

[@KodyCrimson]

I'm willing to bet that the firefighter and Firefly missions were supposed to be one combined mission originally, with Zsasz's mission having had the spot. But when they cut him they split up the mission, despite them being so closely connected.

[@REaDComicsau]

Wow this is awesome, high quality! Since this is my favourite game I've always known about the crashed helicopter but I never imagined it could've been for a side mission. This Zsasz mission would've been great but I can understand why it may have been cut. This just goes to show how detailed and amazing Rocksteady are.

[@reposefulcrane4269]

In regards to Zsasz starting at the hospital, I personally think either Zsasz was arrested trying to kill patients leftover and abandoned from the evacuation or he was undergoing emergency treatment for severe blood loss. We know from his story he was getting weak and tired from all the new marks he carved into his body from killing rioters, and this was some point before/during the Bat-Signal being switched on at the beginning of Arkham Knight. He could have collapsed from blood loss and been picked up by police and taken to Elliot Memorial for emergency care before being sent to the GCPD for detainment. Then Scarecrow's liason bribes the cop to help Zsasz escape because it just adds one more villain to the pile for Batman to deal with, especially one as hard to find as Zsasz as he has no pattern to his killing, wearing down the Bat even further. I wish Zsasz got his side mission in Arkham Knight over Deacon Blackfire. It's probably the one sidequest in the entire trilogy that I feel should have been cut, it is done the only side mission done in a single mission and it just feels like a waste when we could have gotten either Zsasz or another character to fill the slot. Hell if they wanted a Jack Ryder mission so bad over Zsasz, they should have made it a Deadshot mission.

[@ochher2873]

I’ve been a fan for a while keep up the good work you’ve only been on youtube for a year and 33 K subs already and you deserve more! Hope you succeed!

[@Hiky01Prime]

Now THAT is some detective work. Good work! I'm impressed (and jealous to not have discovered all of this myself 😅😅)

[@DEMON_SUNGOD]

I can't believe there is still content that is being made about Arkham games, the best games I ever played as a kid.

[@brickity1447]

Wow. The amount of effort in this video is impressive. It's definitely worth a sub.

[@zackking4742]

The many times I beat Arkham Knight. How did I not once notice him in the ClockTower Camera. Makes me want to go back and play it again lol. Love this video. This was super well put together. Every detail felt precise. I can pretty much imagine the whole thing play out in my head. Fantastic work.

[@LukeCandelaria]

The fact that you used the asylum theme in the background makes this video’s atmosphere so much better

[@cynthiasvambera51]

This is the greatest theory I have ever seen great job man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@anthonydelpouve-frances1388]

The secret room behind Panessa's studios is the last hiding location of Clayface. A lot of old movie stuffs just like Basil Carlo loved and... clay everywhere. On the two seats near the entrance (Clayface was huge) and also on the exit door. You can see it better with detective view. Finally, you can also find clay on the boat nearby. The type of boat witch is shown on Arkham City and the only one in Arkham Knight. Or maybe Clayface used Zsasz identity.

[@epiccarrot88]

I think I have a better idea for how you would get the Zsasz quest: you know how, at the start of the game, Gordon gives you information on a Riddler sighting and a strung up body? I wonder if, either as well as or instead of the strung up body, he'd also tell you of the crashed helicopter. So you go to scan the crime scene, and Batman ultimately deduces that Zsasz was in the hospital, and must have killed the final police officer. From here the side mission would be on hold for a while, until you search for Oracle with the clock tower footage, where he would see Zsasz. From here he deduces the direction Zsasz is going in, and you get the next part of the quest: to investigate where Zsasz went. Alternatively, maybe the Zsasz footage was reused for that scene when the side mission was cut, and instead there would have been a second clocktower footage investigation specifically to find out where Zsasz went after killing someone, maybe on a different screen. Building upon this, I wonder if the riddle in the final game was one of Zsasz's crime scenes during his side quest, and you figure out that Zsasz was heading for the clocktower from it

[@TheOnlyTherazan]

That Batmobile dialogue is so good!! I like when Batman has a positive mindset deep down, the notion that the struggle matters. Batman would not exist, his crusade could not make sense without at least some sense of optimism.

[@Fcabb]

Nice theory, that hideout in Panessa is soooooo sus, ur 100% right about it tbh nice vid 💜

[@Combowombofr]

I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS VIDEO I AM SO EXCITED😂😂😂

[@GothamPaladin]

Dope video! Really fun to watch

[@thenerddesk111]

Man actually became batman to solve this unfinished piece, great video dude

[@user-ek2xg3ps5s]

*Man ?*

[@KAANTAMTUNALI]

Beautiful deduction my friend enjoyed every minute

[@swintintin]

Really great video idea. Props to you, easy sub

[@arand0mguy]

This is insanely well thought out

[@mobile_games87]

I love everything about this video. You finding and solving all of the mysteries Maybe you are a Detective

[@willhanleyreed1990]

Amazing job!

[@Juicy_wiwi]

Also when you gain access to the game files and dig deep you can go back to the mission where Batman goes to the clock tower to find Barbara and when you scan Zsazz Batman says “Zsazz, he’ll regret coming back to Gotham”

[@fairwaysquad]

For your next video you should make a wish list for the dlc playable suicide squad members. I really want slade and Azreyal to be playable in the suicide squad. I even think red hood might have a shot at being playable.

[@garethdwright91]

Very well put together video.

[@johnwelsh5591]

This is some pretty incredible analysis

[@covagotnext8337]

Great video dawg 👌

[@PanthersCharisma]

So well put together. I am ngl I was playing Arkham Knight the other day and wondered what that was. But I didn't go near it because I was focusing on the main story lol.

[@btoofunny1473]

This makes so much sense honestly 🔥🔥🔥

[@Braaiboortjie]

something doesn't add up...how did Zsasz cross the bridge from miagani island to bleake island before batman even lowered them. Same also goes for how he murdered the thugs in founders island even though the bridge doesn't get lowered until later in the game. Great theory tho:)

[@Knerdd]

Zsasz escaped the hospital before the events of Arkham Knight, so I would assume the bridge between miagani and founders island was still down at that point. But you're right about the bridge between founders island and bleake island though. Not sure how Zsasz was on founders island at the beginning of Arkham Knight and then was able to get to bleake island when Barbara got kidnapped. Probably just a mistake on Rocksteady's part

[@disneyboy3030]

​@@Knerdddo you know anyone who could make a mod based on this.😊

[@airburrito4315]

Now this is sone world’s greatest detective work

[@El_Wolverine]

Great video. Now I’m subscribed, looking forward to more.

[@SpiderBud420]

This dude be doing batman detective for a cut mission year later after the game comes out. Love it! Please do more lol

[@zsh010]

Amazing theory I was waiting for this

[@balkantop5-top106]

Great work.

[@jamestoner3900]

Zsasz's interactions with the other villains in GCPD Lockup: ZSASZ: you fell from Grace like I did Dent, you're torn between Meaning and Reality would u like me to end your Misery?. TWO-FACE: how is it that I'm scarred Zsasz but you're not split down the Middle?. ZSASZ: Hello Cobblepot. Don't think I have forgotten what u did to me!!! You Fat British Midget!!! You showed me the light I must thank u for that!, you'd make a worthy victim, my blade yearns to be on your fat sweaty body my Skin ACHES for a mark PENGUIN: Oi Cash u hook handed Wanker you'll regret putting me in here with him, you're a dead man Zsasz! pity u escaped from your exhibit at my museum in Arkham City I should have fed u to my Shark or torture u like what my boys did with Ratcatcher!!! FIREFLY: Ever get the feeling people aren't dying enough Mr. Zsasz (Wheezes) maybe u should BURN People Alive or offer FREE CEREMONIES?. ZSASZ: A Tempting offer Firefly but I find Fire to be unpredictable. A Simple Cut is much easier to Control. ZSASZ: Your Riddles are nothing more than a complete waste of everyone's Time and your Methods of killing are too complex! Have u ever considered just slitting someone's throat or your own, what is the point in Riddles and Puzzles?. RIDDLER: My Creations are the Simplest Possible, Victor. I have to make them simple enough for everyone else to Understand, yet challenging enough to Reward the Truly Intellectually Capable. DEATHSTROKE: A Soulless Psychotic Nihilist with an immense body victim count.. I admire that very much. ZSASZ: you kill people for Money Wilson, My Work is Just Death. ZSASZ: The Higher Power to which you preach inspires Nothing Deacon! Only My Tapestry of Death Shows! DEACON BLACKFIRE: we must all make Sacrifices in the name of the Lord, The One true Father: God! Your Tally Mark Scars are only the Proof of Delusion. PROFESSOR PYG: (Screeches) The Higher being you kill in the name of... (Screeches) MOTHER!... we are the same! We act to make People Happy! ZSASZ: You are Disturbing and Disgusting Pyg even for this cesspit but I do see the similarities between us. AZRAEL (if he decides to kill Batman/if he's in GCPD Lockup): You're nothing but Evil in the eyes of God Zsasz, you'd be condemned to the ashes of Hell!. ZSASZ: oh please don't start with God or Hell to me there is no God or Hell!. As usual Fire Chief Raymond Underhill, Simon Stagg say nothing and Scarecrow is sitting scared exposed to his own Fear Toxin. Shame Harley Quinn and Hush weren't taken to GCPD, it would have been intriguing to have heard them interact with the other Villains wonder what Zsasz would have said to Hush and Harley Quinn also Mad Hatter (i think he was originally going to be a villain in the main game story before he was DLC) and i wonder what Zsasz would have said to Killer Croc, Man-Bat or Poison Ivy (before her heroic sacrifice and death) Zsasz's interaction with Mad Hatter: ZSASZ: your mind controling wont work on me Tetch!, good luck controlling my mind, it would be the desth of u and your hat!. MAD HATTER: will u be my Alice Victor Zsasz?. If not a Souless Nilhist psychotic serial killer has no place in my wonderland!.

[@ArchangelExile]

Weren't there other helicopter crashes scattered throughout the map of Knight? I remember seeing multiple crashes.

[@Gage_Brumley]

Yes I just found one the other day in the area behind Panessa Studios. Except I don't remember there being any bodies by the choppper. I'll also have to go back and check if it was near that unused room behind the studio.

[@ArchangelExile]

@@Gage_Brumley I member at least one crashed copper on the ground with bodies around it but didn’t think to check the surroundings for details because I thought they were just decoration. I can’t remember where I saw it though.

[@MarioGMan25]

Some real, actual Detective work. Cool stuff.

[@TheShadow_Factor]

These theory videos are amazing👏🏻

[@Ayahuasca98]

You’d make Batman himself proud with your detective work

[@samyboussetta9854]

👏👏👏 fantastic work detective :D I would like to re install the game to check that lol

[@skg_momo9589]

This guys detective work is on point

[@broitsmikey]

Great work detective

[@creatorjim]

For a really well made and good video it didn’t get as much views as I expected

[@spriteanon]

The one thing I imagine probably would have played out different, if this is all indeed tied to Zsasz, is the broken neck pilot. Given that the broken neck is his only major injury, and he's the only 'posed' person, and then barely and in a weird spot it makes more sense to me that he actually survived the crash, crawled to the ledge, and the clue would be on examining him exactly what you said. That it makes no sense that his neck is broken, but he's there sitting up, so someone (Zsasz in this case) snapped their neck after surviving the crash. The way his hand is just off to the side lying open like it is, to me adds to this, as it very likely could have been that the pilot was about to use a radio to call in the crash and warn Gordon that Zsasz is loose, only for Zsasz to snap their neck to stop them before leaving and probably taking the radio. (Since he used phones in Arkham City, it wouldn't be too strange that he might speak over police frequencies using the stolen radio for a similar effect.) The killed victims you find posed even have a radio between them, that Zsasz might have spoken to Batman through when they're found.

[@ravindusheshan3514]

Bro deserves a subscription. Subscribed 🔥

[@wingnightbackwards]

Maybe the car dialog means more? Batman seems to take zsaz's talk about his victims personally, maybe originally acarecrow brought a member of the batfamily to zsaz's hideout, i think robin would make the most sense, scarecrow sends you on a goose chase after you blame yourself for robins kidnapping, and follow the symobols around the city mearly to find out there was a killer underneath your hideout all night, killing directly under your nose and about to kill another robin, this would add to the whole plot very well because you and robin were just together while you saw visions of letting jason down, and what could the arkham knight want more than to remind you of how you failed him by making you do it again. Maybe arkham knight informs you of the helicopter crash, a true killer with no justification no remorse and poses the bodies for fun? Zsaz is the closest thing to Joker left in gotham, thinknof jokers dialog here, even more of the death in the family scenes. Batman would truly be afraid if he lost Barbara, jim, tim, and his pride all in one night, and bruce woukd blame himself for his failure, he lost his touch, he's not fit to be the hero of gotham anymore, knightfall is all the more necessary if it took him this long to find robin, and with hints dropped too

[@finalflash1359]

You literally became Batman by making this theory well done!

[@ThugHuntersOfficial]

I've heard a few theories that that hideout was for anarky or clayface, but this also makes sense!

[@YaGirlAshleyy]

you recounting how the crash probably happened reminds me of the lavey towers case in origins

[@eliredmond8882]

I always had wondered what the helicopter purpose was, it always just seemed how weird that detail was only for there to be nothing to inspect there

[@blistow3519]

Amazing theory I wonder if it being at the studio would mean robin got involved some how he’s the only one of batman allies not to get a part in a side mission obviously he’s a part in the campaign but it just didn’t feel like he was popping up as much as the others were because you got just that one chunk of him then he’s locked up. If robin was a part of the mission could have been a reason it was cut as from a certain point onwards robin shouldn’t be available for it. Also makes you wonder how many villains are around that studio like Harley was there , victor might have been, all the jokers and possibly clayface based on concept art like did everyone know that was a bat hide out was that at one point an element?

[@Knerdd]

Man this got me thinking that they could've turned Harley's break in at Panessa into a full fledged jail break with multiple super villains. That would've been so much fun

[@blistow3519]

@@Knerdd Oooh, that’s interesting and, in some ways, works better than the Five Jokers. If instead it’s a whole bunch of supervillains she was breaking out for Scarecrow I always felt the entire Joker blood story was added very last minute. Like none of the other jokers did anything and just got killed off fast. batman seeing joker works just the same if it’s just fear gas instead of fear gas and joker blood and it felt like a weird use of Harley she was massive in the marketing and got a pre-order DLC only just to appear as a side character in a part of the campaign like it’s a weird role for her

[@captainblighe7297]

They definitely could’ve easily turned The Movie Studios into Batmans villain prison. Make Robin the warden so that he both feels like he’s being useful during the night and is available to do other stuff. Maybe he can do a side mission or two since the prison runs itself basically. You could have the remnants of Clayface, Zsasz, Calendar Man, any number of villains you want. Hell maybe this is where they go instead of GCPD and if you’ve caught some during the night, well guess what they’re out again. This could also change up Harley’s dlc, maybe Nightwing is there to over see Ivys transfer to the prison. Oh there is so much you can do with this arc of the story that’s not the Jokers Blood story.

[@blistow3519]

@@captainblighe7297 yeah (I guess for the theory to work zsasz still needs to wonder over there from the chopper so maybe he just sees the break out and decides to check it out) but yeah I could imagine this prison having the more high end villains to dangerous for gcpd or maybe it villains that could maybe help lead to a cure/ vaccine to fear toxin clayface could fit for both maybe copperhead, Bane and a few others or something like makes sense why robins there as said he’s the guard Gotham gone to shit scary is forming a team of villains best keep the most dangerous locked up and guarded somewhere safer than gcpd or Arkham or robin is making a cure for fear gas instead of joker blood

[@VaIentineUK]

I'm not sure i can really get behind this theory. While playing, I often had Batmobile dialogue lasting longer than the journey to the GCPD, and would wait to get out until they finished talking. I don't see how Victor would have broken through that large door to the back room at Panessa Studios. The other theory in your other video about Clayface makes more sense to me for that particular room - especially the concept art of Clayface being there. I believe you're probably spot on about the other parts of the cut mission though.

[@Mvstheworld]

Dude, you are Batman with no gadgets. I am impressed! Well done 😁

[@CaffeineVampire]

Amazing video, it makes a lot of sense, but the scarecrow symbols are in multiple locations around the map. Theres one on the lower part of the hospital beside where you restore power during the ra's dlc, theres one on the gotham herald around the corner from the pyg victim, and a few more that I've seen that idr the exact placement of rn. Overall really good theory but i dont think the scarecrow symbols mean a whole lot. I think they're just a sign of scarecrows control

[@Knerdd]

Huh thanks for mentioning that, I don't ever remember seeing any other scarecrow symbols around the map that's my bad

[@joshuathomson1998]

Amazing theory keep up the amazing work more Videos please

[@rayborg0125]

Great work, really.

[@jeremyhill6485]

Now that's some detective work.

[@jenpachi2408]

This reminds me of my killer Croc Anarky mystery pretty cool video