This hidden room in Arkham Knight has a dark secret…

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Knerd

Knerd

11 ай бұрын

Ever wondered what this hidden room is in Batman: Arkham Knight? Well, here's two theory's that could explain the mystery behind this secret room in Arkham Knight...
Batman Arkham Knight is an extremely detailed game, and the devs made sure that each location across Gotham City had some sort of purpose. Except for this one area behind Panessa Studios... This secret room has no Riddler Trophies, no easter eggs, no NOTHING, so why was it even implemented into the game in the first place? Well, I got to work, trying to figure out what this room was meant for, and in the process I developed two theories and might've solved the mystery behind this secret room...
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@bensxbd
@bensxbd 11 ай бұрын
As someone who had some tight, um, relations to one of the members of the development team, I’m letting you know that your zsasz theory is nearly spot on. It was apparently cut for time and because pyg’s mission was too similar. It would’ve felt like repetitive busy work, so they turned it into a riddle instead.
@mattt115
@mattt115 11 ай бұрын
Meh doesn't 100 %makes add up as clatyface does
@rickytoffen8352
@rickytoffen8352 11 ай бұрын
@@b-swizzle0779🤓
@equinox5667
@equinox5667 11 ай бұрын
@@mattt115maybe a team up? Both of them basically got fucked over by batman
@mattt115
@mattt115 11 ай бұрын
@@equinox5667 lol maybe but zsasz just starting to walk in the direction is pretty looses
@bensxbd
@bensxbd 11 ай бұрын
@@b-swizzle0779 sure! I probably don’t know as much as you might think but I definitely asked him a few questions as an avid Batman fan lol
@Bugplanet8840
@Bugplanet8840 11 ай бұрын
The zsasz theory is probably most likely what happened. But the clay face one is actually pretty cool, especially when you can see a lot of basil Carlo posters in the studio, along with the terror movie set which the haunted house, definitely cool world building
@wilkinscoffee8979
@wilkinscoffee8979 11 ай бұрын
The actual best theory is that Joker survived and hid at Panessa studios, waiting to take revenge on Batman in Batman: Arkham World.
@Bugplanet8840
@Bugplanet8840 11 ай бұрын
@@wilkinscoffee8979 noo that’s for the aslume timeline, are you stupid?
@freezerloki3247
@freezerloki3247 11 ай бұрын
@Bugplanet8840 I like that you put all of the Puzzle Pieces together. You are very smart!
@File.hype.exe_is_not_respondin
@File.hype.exe_is_not_respondin 11 ай бұрын
​@wilkinscoffee8979 he didn't survive we saw him die
@Bugplanet8840
@Bugplanet8840 11 ай бұрын
@@File.hype.exe_is_not_respondin is there a lore reason you didn’t understand his r/BatmanArkham meme ? Are you stupid?
@michaeloverton04
@michaeloverton04 11 ай бұрын
My personal favorite theory is that this was where Anarky was planning to set up base, but was eaten by Killer Croc. For those who don't know, there are Anarky tags all throughout Gotham in Arkham Knight, with one of them being really close to the Panessa Studios outcove, with a giant mess of some red substance on the wall and ground, giant claw marks, and a torn down bit of the guard rail, all of this being in sight of Killer Croc's lair, the light house. Looking back, the red stuff could've also been clay if you use the Clayface theory, but my idea stands.
@Pun1Sh3r_360
@Pun1Sh3r_360 11 ай бұрын
Lol damn bruh they really gave my guy Anarky the Captain Hook treatment just because he is red I’m done 😂
@itsspooky2710
@itsspooky2710 10 ай бұрын
I've heard this!!! I hundred percent believe croc killed an anarchy follower or maybe anarchy himself
@Chaotic_warrior
@Chaotic_warrior 10 ай бұрын
Here is a little thing to note: Change the background theme to Kronos form incredibles it would fit perfectly
@crangejo
@crangejo 8 ай бұрын
but anarky wasn't heard from again after his incarceration, and Killer Croc was apprehended like VERY shortly after Arkham City shut down. so you're just guessing
@geronimo4twenty732
@geronimo4twenty732 7 ай бұрын
That’s not YOUR idea tho give sum credit to th guys that actually did the work lmao Jenpachi figured it out like 11 months ago
@BMoneyYTB
@BMoneyYTB 11 ай бұрын
It’s got to be Clayface. A movie studio, clay on the chairs, the concept art…Plus that was a massive door that clearly had massive damage done it in order to break it open. It would’ve taken someone big with a lot of strength behind them to do so. Clayface definitely fits that profile. I love how we are still figuring out Easter eggs and lore to this day, it’s insane the amount of detail that goes into these games.
@justinharvey7398
@justinharvey7398 11 ай бұрын
Based on that concept art, it should have been a "find the clues/find Clayface" then fight him at the movie studios. It would have been awesome. Too bad we didn't get to see it.
@lakshaykochhar6799
@lakshaykochhar6799 11 ай бұрын
True, Zsasz could probably hide anywhere in blake island and it would still take about similar time to reach Gotham Police Department's building and all circumstantial evidence points towards Clayface.
@BMoneyYTB
@BMoneyYTB 11 ай бұрын
@@lakshaykochhar6799 Agreed.
@progmrz5512
@progmrz5512 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@lakshaykochhar6799 But the thing, a guy who was close to the dev said the Zsasz theory was spot on. Besides, we have tons of unused voiceline from actual Zsasz while Clayface only appearance was from a concept art
@bencatzilla
@bencatzilla 6 ай бұрын
@@progmrz5512 why are we trusting the word of this random guy
@adammarch9604
@adammarch9604 11 ай бұрын
I think Clayface is confirmed to be catatonic in Knight. There are some traces of him on one of the airships and hush also used bits of him to cover up the scars in his face.
@korppi8184
@korppi8184 11 ай бұрын
So like he's still sentient but can't reform because his parts are scattered? What a miserable existence
@ihaveasecret9539
@ihaveasecret9539 11 ай бұрын
@@korppi8184 At least Batman didn’t kill him though! 😮‍💨
@kennel878Xx
@kennel878Xx 11 ай бұрын
​@@korppi8184a fate worse than death for sure. But hey, so long as Batman/Bruce knows he hasn't killed or been the reason for someone dying (Minus Ra's Al Ghoul) I think he's totally fine with that being the case. Could you just imagine how awful it would be if you entire body was turned into a completely solid clay that's stretchable movable and the like. I figured the Lazarus Pit would restore the entirety of his body having complete skin , bones , brain etc. But it was all scattered during the drop in the Lazarus pit. I dunno tho. Wish we would've gotten a more clearer definitive answer on it. /:
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 4 ай бұрын
​@@korppi8184Clayface is still sentient in the same way that somebody in a coma is still sentient. Not dead, but its not like he's awake and concious or anything.
@dr.killson7355
@dr.killson7355 2 ай бұрын
@@korppi8184it was a concept in the animated series that a part of him separated and became sentient
@brendanbowman8865
@brendanbowman8865 11 ай бұрын
I was wondering where zsasz went in Arkham knight
@trozonewolf8467
@trozonewolf8467 11 ай бұрын
I think they decided to cut the mission as he had been in asylum and city so would be better to introduce a new character in pyg
@HoseG96
@HoseG96 11 ай бұрын
He couldn’t afford a tank to go against Batman. Deathstroke was lucky he got connections
@vibeghanistan
@vibeghanistan 11 ай бұрын
chilled and balled out
@MistahJ1940
@MistahJ1940 11 ай бұрын
@@HoseG96You have no way of knowing that this was the real reason as to why Zsasz got cut.
@plsdontbeahero
@plsdontbeahero 11 ай бұрын
@@MistahJ1940shut up
@batmaninachair
@batmaninachair 11 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure that after City, Clayface was just various piles of mud and couldn't move, Hush also used the pieces of him to cover his scars
@ezcompane
@ezcompane 11 ай бұрын
I'd really like it to be Zsasz because I was surprised he wasn't really in this game after having roles in the first 2 games. Clayface should've also been included in this game, but I guess they ran out of time or ideas on how to bring him back and create a solid side mission for him. Damn....we really need a new Arkham game. I really miss this series and wouldn't mind Batman traveling to other cities (Star City or Metropolis??) to help other heroes fight villains.
@stefandinus7701
@stefandinus7701 11 ай бұрын
If I'm honest, it would've been the best option if they'd made Gotham Knights an Arkham game (A.K.A. good and continuing the story, like everyone hoped for). Could've been amazing to see the Arkham versions of these characters continue to deal with the fallout from Bruce being "dead". Hell, just give Barbara the spinal implant and you can have fun with interplay between her and the rest as Tim has building concern over his wife's safety
@SimplyyBravo
@SimplyyBravo 11 ай бұрын
That would be so fun, an Arkham game where Batman is the Arkham ghost. Unfortunately, I don’t see this happening since the voice actor of Batman passed
@Samuel152
@Samuel152 11 ай бұрын
You can find Zsasz when you're on the CCTV cameras looking for Oracle. Originally, he was supposed to be a side mission in Arkham Knight and that's how it started. Zsasz has unused voice lines in the game as well. And there's a Riddle that gives you a short story about what Zsasz is doing.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 11 ай бұрын
@@stefandinus7701 Also would have been really fun to see Jason re-integrating with the family after kinda causing it.
@kakyointhemilfhunter4273
@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 11 ай бұрын
​@@stefandinus7701Personally wouldve rather had an Arkhan Beyond game where you play Terry in the future
@Pullmanfan7
@Pullmanfan7 11 ай бұрын
Honestly it has always *killed* me to see Zsasz in the sercurity footage at the Clock Tower and never track him down. Real shame they cut the quest from the game, they could have included it in DLC
@gx_pro2277
@gx_pro2277 11 ай бұрын
there was unused audio where you could scan zasz and unlock a side mission
@Pullmanfan7
@Pullmanfan7 11 ай бұрын
@@gx_pro2277 Ughhhhh I was like, Batman he's right there let's do somethingg :(
@gx_pro2277
@gx_pro2277 11 ай бұрын
@@Pullmanfan7 fr though
@Samuel152
@Samuel152 11 ай бұрын
​@@Pullmanfan7He was too busy looking for Oracle.
@Multi-fandomEldingArum
@Multi-fandomEldingArum 11 ай бұрын
@@Pullmanfan7well, he wasn’t *right* there. He was there, but that was security footage shown before Batman got there. And I think it’s reasonable to assume that Batman thought that he could leave Zaszz alone for the time being because Scarcrow was the much more immediate threat that had to be taken care of. There also probably wasn’t many innocent people for Zaszz to hurt/kill in Gotham at that time.
@asemahmed6123
@asemahmed6123 11 ай бұрын
Man i just love it that people like you keep finding such easter eggs and keeping this franchise alive after all these years. I hope that the Arkham community stays this strong in the upcoming years, and that we hopefully get a new Batman game thats just as good as the arkham games!
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 11 ай бұрын
Cut content isn’t Easter eggs.
@davidkellner7372
@davidkellner7372 8 ай бұрын
Feb 2 2024 rocksteady is releasing suicide squad: kill the justice league which is a continuation set 5 years after arkham knight
@Motolmang
@Motolmang 3 ай бұрын
@@davidkellner7372 no its not shut up, i refuse to consider that shit canon
@davidkellner7372
@davidkellner7372 3 ай бұрын
@@Motolmang like it or not it happened
@Motolmang
@Motolmang 3 ай бұрын
@@davidkellner7372 all the older arkham games still have more concurrent players on steam than suicide squad does and the game ignores pre existing stories despite trying to shove down your throat it is "canon" so others will disagree with you
@KOHiIO
@KOHiIO 11 ай бұрын
In Batman Arkham asylum in front of Dr. Young's office there's a place where there is a spirit of Arkham place, you had to pull the wall out to get it and when walked into there you will find a lot of stuff covering a hall Just wanted you to know
@bobmasters9871
@bobmasters9871 11 ай бұрын
God it's awesome to see someone actually bringing life back to Arkham. You're making me really want to start making arkham content for my main channel. I've been floating around the idea for years and I've never gotten around to it.
@ripfnnn_
@ripfnnn_ 11 ай бұрын
I never knew zsasz had a cut side mission, cool to know.
@JacobNGames
@JacobNGames 7 ай бұрын
I always thought that Zsasz showing up in that camera feed just to vanish never to be seen of again felt strange but always chocked it up to being a simple easter egg, however it being the remnant of a cut bigger role for him in the game makes MUCH more sense.
@jamemhm
@jamemhm 11 ай бұрын
I think that room is very obviously a clayface Easter egg. Zsasz has no particular reason to have his hideout be in a back room of Panessa Studios, his character doesn't really relate to movies and theater at all. Clayface on the other hand is very open about his history as an actor, and you can see posters for a movie he starred in all over Panessa Studios. If this isn't enough to convince people Clayface most likely resides in that room, there is literally clay covering the chairs (where clayface would be sitting down). I know in the video he says that the texture could be something else but there are no textures that appear to be the same as that one anywhere else, and the color looks identical to Clayface's texture in arkham city. I'd even go as far as to say that maybe rocksteady planned for a clayface side mission, but scrapped it early on and left this room as an Easter egg to him
@justinharvey7398
@justinharvey7398 11 ай бұрын
I think it was both. I think it was originally Zsasz's room for his mission that was rushed into a Clayface easter egg (with the broken doors and odd textures) once they were both scrapped from the game. I like to believe both Zsasz and Karlo were supposed to be in the game at some point.
@BruceWayne-vo8gw
@BruceWayne-vo8gw 9 ай бұрын
I think Clayface would be more interesting. Zsasz already appeared in Asylum and City, so using Clayface would make more sense since he have less appearances. He's also one of my favorite Batman villains.
@real_Malachy
@real_Malachy 11 ай бұрын
Clayface (canonically) had chunks of him dispersed around in Arkham Knight. It's what Hush uses as his new mask. Clayface was separated into said chunks after the Lazarus Pit explosion, and as of Arkham Knight, he was unable to piece himself back together; so, while all of Clayface doesn't appear in Arkham Knight, a small portion of him does. He most likely won't ever piece himself back together, but it might also set up a 2nd Clayface in the arkhamverse. There could also be a chance that the Clayface theory is right, and is probably a cut side-mission where Batman helps Clayface piece himself back together (or it could be a cut side-mission involving a 2nd Clayface). Arkham Knight really only ever had a clear vision story-wise, but not so much side-content wise; so it's kinda difficult to tell exactly what Rocksteady was thinking (also, reminder that Asylum and City were both written by Paul Dini, so Arkham Knight was kind of an inconsistent project that Rocksteady threw together, imo. I like the Arkham Games, but it's glaringly obvious that the quality of the gameplay isn't the same (Batmobile has way more segments than Predator and Combat encounters. And, the Excavator boss is the most pointless boss fight in gaming history (Rocksteady actually thought it was a good idea to destroy the Batmobile just to give a reskinned version of the Batmobile))
@emberkingdomtv1173
@emberkingdomtv1173 11 ай бұрын
it was cool story wise though
@Trezzpops
@Trezzpops 10 ай бұрын
💯 this. I'll never understand why WB gave Paul Dini the flick for the final game, when he had done his thing so spectacularly and built up amazing plot points. Arkham Knight really left a sour taste in my mouth, tbh.
@KANQQ
@KANQQ 11 ай бұрын
Damn i hate how both theories line up perfectly 😭 i guess we’ll never know
@shxxo
@shxxo 11 ай бұрын
I think the clay face theory is genius! I remember something about him being a sort of ‘actor’ in one of the comics I read, so him hiding out in the studio/theatre would make a lot of sense, keep it up man!
@rjwallace7477
@rjwallace7477 11 ай бұрын
Both theories are great. I love these games and the Easter eggs and creepy atmosphere are really good
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 11 ай бұрын
Why must the two be separate? Clayface in this universe is into the team-up thing. Remember Victor's side-mission in City? What if this time, he and Clayface teamed up, allowing him to be in two places at once while they worked together to bait the Batman into a trap? Victor intentionally letting Batman track "him" again, actually leading him to Clayface, where Batman is expecting a certain set of rules and tactics and thus making for a trap? Victor being on the cameras actually fits this idea. Imagine Batman trying to track him and failing because the cameras don't make sense, he's places he can't be, and Batman starts getting gaslit into thinking it's in his head.
@lakshaykochhar6799
@lakshaykochhar6799 11 ай бұрын
Not sure, they would get along.
@lukestantz12
@lukestantz12 6 ай бұрын
@@lakshaykochhar6799In the words of Dwight Schrute, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
@nickthepick8043
@nickthepick8043 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad I discovered your channel. Your choice of music really reminds the viewer that the Arkhamverse is as unsettling as it is action-packed. Much like Gotham itself. Now I'm more motivated to play Arkham Knight again so I can discover more rooms like this and piece together any kind of story it might have had. One would hope that that was the dev's intent.
@Grizzlox
@Grizzlox 11 ай бұрын
We've yet to see if "merging" with the Lazarus pit may have done something amazing and/or horrifying to our buddy Clayface.
@REaDComicsau
@REaDComicsau 11 ай бұрын
Wow these theories! To this day we are still learning about new things in the Arkham games, just goes to prove how detailed Rocksteady. Arkham Knight is my favourite game of all time!
@freezerloki3247
@freezerloki3247 11 ай бұрын
You took lots of dedication and Effort into this video. All of your points make sense too, I think Zsas's mission would've been in Season Of Infamy. Clayface Is Most Likely, However It Could be anything. It is most likely Clay but it could be colored Paint. It could be Iron Oxide, which could've spread onto the cushions. However Clayface is most likely
@freezerloki3247
@freezerloki3247 11 ай бұрын
It could be however, which is a possibility. Killer Croc. Let's think about it, Killer Croc escaped from Ryker Heights, we don't know what he did before that. Maybe Killer Croc Broke in, trying to find Humans but instead found that room. Then he swam back towards the lighthouse.
@KonTrol-jx5yq
@KonTrol-jx5yq 11 ай бұрын
​@@freezerloki3247true, true. However Iron Oxide cannot do that because it rusts when it is in contact with water.
@freezerloki3247
@freezerloki3247 11 ай бұрын
​@@KonTrol-jx5yqtrue, however weird name. Anyway, who's to say that Clayface, Killer Croc or Zsas didn't have water on them or on their persons.
@deandanielson8950
@deandanielson8950 11 ай бұрын
He is a detective
@freezerloki3247
@freezerloki3247 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe I almost have 50 likes! Thank you everyone, I've never got anywhere close!
@joshanderson1292
@joshanderson1292 11 ай бұрын
Your theories are really amazing keep up the good work man
@jacksonh133
@jacksonh133 11 ай бұрын
Clayface merged with the lazarus pit and was recovered by the GCPD and he was unable to take form again and most of the liquid was kept at the GCPD and hush got a hold of some of it using it to cover his scars
@browncoat007
@browncoat007 11 ай бұрын
Man these are some awesome theories! I always wondered about this room. You just gained a sub
@jacksonthompson1450
@jacksonthompson1450 11 ай бұрын
I think the clay face theory is probably correct. If you look at some of the concept art the panessa studios has a similar lookin figure. Maybe there was gonna be a boss fight maybe even main story mission instead the Harley Quinn mission.
@AtomicSoul29
@AtomicSoul29 8 ай бұрын
In a weird way, as much as I love Clayface, I’m glad they didn’t put him in. His boss fight might have turned into another batmobile mission where you have to shoot a freeze blast or electric shot
@brayslays1168
@brayslays1168 11 ай бұрын
clayface couldnt have been healed by the lazarus pit because in order for it to work, you need that electric zap which was destroyed before he was knocked in.
@stormuchiha8145
@stormuchiha8145 11 ай бұрын
I truly love the Arkham series it shows the very dark side of Batman's lore and the love of the characters
@Baaaa00
@Baaaa00 11 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a couple of your videos now and this another great one new subscriber keep them coming. Also I wish they kept zsasz in the game
@Drlwbl
@Drlwbl 11 ай бұрын
Just subscribed like 2 days ago it was worth I love these vids bro keep up the good work
@donovangomez9489
@donovangomez9489 11 ай бұрын
Great content! Never seen anyone cover this before 👍
@freezerloki3247
@freezerloki3247 11 ай бұрын
Good Video Idea: Can you beat Batman Arkham Knight with only 3 Keys Allowed?
@Knerdd
@Knerdd 11 ай бұрын
This is one of the best challenge ideas I've ever seen, I love it! I might have to twist the rules a little bit but I'll DEFINITELY do this at some point
@freezerloki3247
@freezerloki3247 11 ай бұрын
​@@KnerddHonestly Thank you for Responding towards my Video Idea, it means so much to me! When the Video Comes out, I'll like it and put it in its own Playlist!
@ArsxnIV
@ArsxnIV 11 ай бұрын
I love how even 8 years later, I'm still learning about new things in this game. This is AK is easily one of my favourite games oat
@Tasteless_dan
@Tasteless_dan 11 ай бұрын
Dude you are a GENIUS I love these videos
@Lew_Tea
@Lew_Tea 11 ай бұрын
Do you wanna get nuts? What if clayface transformed into zsasz during Arkham knight, that would practically align with everything said in this video. He did it with joker and ironically victor zsasz is wearing the same exact things from Arkham city so maybe he transformed into zsasz in order to safely escape Arkham city undetected. He then grabbed the boat and fled to panessa studios because clayface was an actor as said. Maybe the boss fight would’ve been clayface and then he would transform back into zsasz in order for him to fit into the Batmobile (hence Bruce probably forces him to). The then leaked dialogue would commence hence why it would be victor zsasz voice instead. This seems pretty brilliant to me (Additional - maybe clayface chose to become victor zsasz because he’s always seemed to be a weak character in the Arkham verse. In order to try and misdirect Bruce into letting his guard down further than needed. Giving him a perfect advantage as clayface is believed to be dead by Bruce.)
@Knerdd
@Knerdd 11 ай бұрын
I love it, but the only problem is that some of Zsasz's cut dialogue was meant for the batmobile ride to GCPD, and if Batman knew that it was actually Clayface, not Zsasz, then I doubt Batman would've put him inside the batmobile for obvious reasons
@Lew_Tea
@Lew_Tea 11 ай бұрын
@@Knerdd maybe he forced him to turn back into zsasz and then knocked him out 😂
@Lew_Tea
@Lew_Tea 11 ай бұрын
@@Knerdd I mean he put poison ivy in the Batmobile so it’s not that far of a stretch
@Garother
@Garother 10 ай бұрын
I have read somewhere that Hush used parts of Clayface to mend the scars of his new face. Clayface was never able to take another form again.
@bendyboy7179
@bendyboy7179 11 ай бұрын
I was thinking it could be Anarky’s room because theres a Anarky Symbol somewhere outside of the room.
@ayushmishra8677
@ayushmishra8677 11 ай бұрын
the clayface one is the most likely, I love how you literally analyse stufff like batman
@jacobdellert4291
@jacobdellert4291 11 ай бұрын
Both of your theories have some really solid evidence. Good job! I would actually like to know what your take would be on what could have possibly been done for a Clayface side mission.
@Raiden113
@Raiden113 10 ай бұрын
I always tried to imagine what zasz’s mission would be like, I’m excited for your next video
@CaptainFordoCanonizingCommitee
@CaptainFordoCanonizingCommitee 3 ай бұрын
Bro finds so many secret little details that he's basically Batman without the money and gadgets.
@maui3551
@maui3551 11 ай бұрын
That place was actually supposed to be for the Clayface mission that was scraped from the game
@TheAvgCrusader
@TheAvgCrusader 8 ай бұрын
Plot Twist Clayface disguised himself as Zsasz
@vmac8972
@vmac8972 8 ай бұрын
Damn, to this day there is still more references and hidden secrets. Love exploring and looking at small hidden things, coming up with theories. Maybe Zsazs and Clayface both uses that as their hideout. Lol
@tyleroutland435
@tyleroutland435 11 ай бұрын
I wish Victor would have had a side quest in knight
@MasterTemplar781
@MasterTemplar781 9 ай бұрын
I have an even better theory what if Clayface was hiding out in the backroom in panessa studios after arkham city. But when the scarecrow thing happend Clayface left or after the time Gordon arrived at the studios to meet batman in the flashback Clayface tought his hideout was compromised and left. And then when the scarecrow thing happend Zsasz walked around finding the busted door at the back of panessa studios walked in and made it his own base.
@creatorjim
@creatorjim 11 ай бұрын
It’s always nice when knerd posts
@thewheyoflife3548
@thewheyoflife3548 11 ай бұрын
Bro is actually Batman with these detective skills. I think your theory on Clayface is 100% correct tho
@Cortanarama
@Cortanarama 8 ай бұрын
Clayface definitely makes more sense given his acting background, but the Zsasz details are interesting. Although it doesn't make total sense, I kind of like the idea of Clayface impersonating Zsasz in that video footage, acting out his masterpiece role being captured by Batman, and then maybe trying to break out the criminals captured at GCPD. Although I'm sure Batman would at last second put him in a Clayface containment cell and say something like "that's not Zsasz" and then Clayface breaks character because he was caught.
@austinmyers6779
@austinmyers6779 10 ай бұрын
I love these kind of theories!
@King_Of_Arkham626
@King_Of_Arkham626 11 ай бұрын
Zsas *technically* shows up for like... 2 seconds in the Knightfall endings (the partial one where you only have to complete 5 side missions and the full one when you complete all the side missions) apparently
@AnimeSaiyans
@AnimeSaiyans 11 ай бұрын
Both are really good theories tbh, but imma go with the clay face one just cause it makes more sense to me, specially with the photo art
@justinharvey7398
@justinharvey7398 11 ай бұрын
I wanted King Kong Clayface.
@AnimeSaiyans
@AnimeSaiyans 11 ай бұрын
@@justinharvey7398 the one from like Gotham knights wasn’t bad either tbh
@melancholyentertainment
@melancholyentertainment 4 ай бұрын
There are also references to Matt Hagen, the second Clayface, on movie posters throughout the game, for what that’s worth.
@creatorjim
@creatorjim 10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the full analysis on the Zsaez theory😊
@MasterTemplar781
@MasterTemplar781 9 ай бұрын
There were reasons for why Zsasz's side missions was cut off. 1. time issues bc they didn't have much time left there wasn't enough time to finish the side mission. 2. It was too similiar to Pyg's mission. (bc pyg's missions were examening crime scenes to find where pyg is hiding and Zsasz's mission would've been the exact same.) So their choice was to either cut off a side mission about a creepy serial killer dressed with a pig mask who would be a new villain or an already used villain with a side mission they could no longer finish in time.
@RB83206
@RB83206 11 ай бұрын
The clay face hideout is cool, i always thought he was dead because according to Hush’s character bio the reason his scars have healed was because he used some of clay faces mud after Arkham City
@comedynerd7103
@comedynerd7103 10 ай бұрын
I've played the game for over a hundred hours and never noticed this room. Cool Vid!
@maxvogt3515
@maxvogt3515 10 ай бұрын
I like the clay-face theory with one alteration. The boat. You can very clearly see that substance (the exact tone and texture of clay-face) isn’t just in the chairs and stuff, it has smear marks into the drain. I think parts of him traveled via the sewer system (where the league of shadows partially operated from in Arkham city) to a place of familiarity, the movie studios
@GamerofTheEternalWar
@GamerofTheEternalWar 11 ай бұрын
Clayface can just go under the door. He can change shape.
@chuuweebyou
@chuuweebyou 11 ай бұрын
would've been cool if you'd encounter clayface in AK by approaching fake versions of enemies around the map like maybe he takes the form of the Arkham Knight or Scarecrow to lure Batman/trick the Militia into fighting for him.
@EyeofKoruption
@EyeofKoruption 11 ай бұрын
It’s a shame they never used Clayface again after Arkham City
@justaltered6567
@justaltered6567 4 ай бұрын
I love the vids keep up the great work
@mikemoss6045
@mikemoss6045 10 ай бұрын
Hey, it's the giant reels used for that one riddler trophy in the studios. Pretty cool.
@noone11
@noone11 11 ай бұрын
Man you’re sound is soooo relaxing
@johnweaver311
@johnweaver311 11 ай бұрын
I've had this game since 2015, and this is the very first time I'm ever seeing this room. Wow.
@dbstop9194
@dbstop9194 8 ай бұрын
Just finished this masterpiece for the first time, it´s such a shame there has not been a proper arkham game in 8 ears and probably there will never be.
@smugivr4046
@smugivr4046 7 ай бұрын
It's likely they added the 'clay' and damage to the door after the Zsasz mission was cut so the room wasn't just there and instead was more of an easter egg
@fatalwaffle1715
@fatalwaffle1715 10 ай бұрын
Awesome Video Bro!
@theantone7476
@theantone7476 11 ай бұрын
Are you kidding me? I had no idea there was an open area at the Panessa Studios at the docks, Ive played Arkham Knight a few times already and actually playing it again but first time streaming it. Still, never knew or came across this area. Thank you so much, I need to check it out. Never noticed Zasaz is actually in the game as well
@SavantPete
@SavantPete 11 ай бұрын
This game has so much love and detail put into it
@ohgoditshimrun1346
@ohgoditshimrun1346 7 ай бұрын
It is also worth noting that if you have a head for geometry, the underground path during the Shadow War DLC mission does lead pretty close to Panessa Studios. So it is possible that Clayface sank into the pit under the Monarch, came out in the pit under Panessa, and climbed up from there. Possibly even being how Nyssa knew where the new source was located.
@youssefkharbosh1469
@youssefkharbosh1469 8 ай бұрын
i think it is clay face that the only reason the freeze clauster could serve, all the gear had its role, the batarang for far buttons, the grapple gun traversal to locations, the explosive gel for check points and penguin, electric gun for electrified water in ras alghul mission , disruptor for penguin, remote batarang for buttons in arkham knight hideout, hacking gear, password, for stagg ship, voice analyzer for harley quinn at panasea studios, so what purpose in story would the freeze clauster do except fighting clayface, moreover after fighting multiple copies of him you were gonna insert it inside the batmobile to shoot freezing shots to fight against a giant clayface in panasea studios square
@couwiekmaupa8967
@couwiekmaupa8967 11 ай бұрын
nice work Detective
@dychrisshandonsmith1242
@dychrisshandonsmith1242 11 ай бұрын
Keep it up on your work and this video and channel I love this video and channel Thanks you for your video and channel I love Batman Arkham All franchise
@dripgoku9089
@dripgoku9089 11 ай бұрын
I always wanted to know what was in that room i always found kt interesting
@Enigma75614
@Enigma75614 6 ай бұрын
The Arkham games had such great lore
@creatorjim
@creatorjim 11 ай бұрын
The thing about Knerdd videos is just you can’t watch them twice… You have to watch them at least 3 times
@cattameme
@cattameme 8 ай бұрын
the docked boat looks like the same boat Blight hid away on from Terry.
@Dmobley9901
@Dmobley9901 9 ай бұрын
There is one thing that bothers me about this room: When looking at the door on the interior which would lead into the studios, why is it locked from the OUTSIDE? It looks like someone barricaded it from the outside like they were trying to keep something in. It also is covered in the same substance as the surrounding furniture is, with three metal pipes blocking the door, chained up with a padlock. It sort of looks like it would make sense from a meta perspective that this would be part of the scrapped Zsasz mission, but also, given the look of it now, it almost looks like someone captured Clayface or something and locked him in Panessa Studios? Like you mentioned, the boat is straight from Arkham City, and everything is covered in what appears to be clay...but one thing is off. It looks like everywhere you can find the "clay" at would be oddly human, but also mostly clay. Like if Clayface was unstable and was somewhere between a human form and liquid-like clay, otherwise it wouldn't make sense why there's such a mess everywhere. For that matter, given the Lazarus Pit makes people more unstable mentally when coming out of it, what if Clay's mental instability manifested as physical instability as well? The fact that this is in a part of Panessa studios, which is literally in the backyard of Batman's home base for this game, it would seem to imply two things- 1. Batman would have to know about this room. 2. Whoever is currently using this room would appear to be trying to contain something/someone in a very improvised way. I believe that while the truth is likely a combination of factors, what we're seeing in it's final form, is actually Batman tying up loose ends while he believes himself to be dying soon. Namely it appears that Batman discovered an unstable Clayface after the events of Arkham City, loaded him into a boat, and locked him in this back room in the Panessa Studio base, potentially for his own safety and for the safety of others, as Clay was likely in a highly unstable state post-Lazarus Pit, and it could even be possible that containing and housing Clay Face is one of the primary purposes of the Panessa base, which would make sense given that this is a location with a lot of significance to Clay Face personally, given that some of the posters in Panessa studios are actually movies Clay Face acted in before his transformation. Given that Arkham Knight is a game all about endings and characters finding the closest they'll ever get to peace, I believe that while the original intent may have been to be part of a Zsasz mission, the devs seem to have repurposed the room last second into the final resting place of Clayface, which would fit the themes of the game perfectly. Just as Freeze and his wife go off to live what little time they have left in peace, Clayface is left in a room surrounded by memories of who he used to be, even if he's no longer in his right mind to remember said memories. Given the concept art we see, this room could've gone through multiple phases and purposes without one ever being settled on. If the concept art we see here is actually older than the scrapped Zsasz content, both could be true, but the final state of the room would be explained by it being an area the devs simply didn't have time to finish, perhaps a scrapped storyline involving Clayface breaking out of Panessa Studios, that was just too late in development to finish either in the main game or the DLC?
@Knerdd
@Knerdd 8 ай бұрын
I love this idea!
@cheesemoon6319
@cheesemoon6319 11 ай бұрын
This is quality content. Thank you!
@okayfornow
@okayfornow 10 ай бұрын
Title: this room has a secret Actual video: here my theory on something obligatory
@brandiepop
@brandiepop 8 ай бұрын
id guess its kind of a combination where it was meant for zsasz and they were going to have a riddle that referenced clayface
@Duck-sz4cg
@Duck-sz4cg 3 ай бұрын
U can hear creepy noises if u go detective u can hear "Batman help" or something around them lines
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 11 ай бұрын
There’s a BUNCH of cut content from the game. They spent half of the development time getting that damn tank stuff to work right.
@MikeRedead333
@MikeRedead333 9 ай бұрын
Ive played this game so many times i had no idea of this room, this game is the gift that keeps giving ❤
@Jerald_witcher
@Jerald_witcher 11 ай бұрын
4:08 lol nostalgia
@derrickmacklin9458
@derrickmacklin9458 10 ай бұрын
I love this fucking game even years later I’m learning more things about the game btw I subscribed to you
@Dakush_67
@Dakush_67 11 ай бұрын
Great video 🔥 I think Zsasz's theory is the right one but maybe the devs wanted to put them in a team or a battle between them I really don't know... are there any coded things for Clayface?
@Knerdd
@Knerdd 11 ай бұрын
Not sure, I wish I knew how to check the game files for that but I don't
@SarcyBoi41
@SarcyBoi41 11 ай бұрын
If Clayface was trying to lay low in Gotham during this night of chaos then he'd have to disguise himself as someone who the other criminals would know not to mess with, but who has no henchmen to notice he's in the wrong place. Zsasz fits that bill perfectly, and the security footage of him just kinda standing around doesn't seem in-character - surely he'd just be trying to rack up his kill count? So I think maybe the plan was Clayface could have disguised himself as Zsasz to scout Gotham, but eventually the real Zsasz caught sight of him and tracked him back to his hideout to kill him for stealing his image. Of course, Zsasz would be totally out of his depth in this fight so Batman would have to save him, then take him to GCPD after defeating Clayface. Another theory could be that it was simply gonna be a Zsasz mission, but they'd leave Easter eggs hinting that this Zsasz might actually be Clayface in disguise.
@Dakush_67
@Dakush_67 10 ай бұрын
@@SarcyBoi41 why not 🤷‍♂️ very good theory btw
@winkcustoms
@winkcustoms 10 ай бұрын
Imo, it would’ve been Scarecrow Clayface and Zsasz, or either one or two of them, having a plan and a side mission with all three and it was eventually cut because of lots of content already in the game
@deandanielson8950
@deandanielson8950 11 ай бұрын
Oh also I love the videos you do and all of the puzzles 🧩 you put together you are the worlds greatest detective you can now carry on Batman’s legacy. rip Batman
@Batkiller
@Batkiller 11 ай бұрын
That’s funny that room I legit went in there a couple of days ago
@captainrantman3892
@captainrantman3892 11 ай бұрын
Ngl, it would’ve been pretty cool if we got a Clay Face boss fight in Panessa Studios
@trevorstockwell8290
@trevorstockwell8290 8 ай бұрын
Arkham origins was actually fun as well
@jordcoh7722
@jordcoh7722 4 ай бұрын
The clay face ones makes way more sense.
@redthewifeyhunter4034
@redthewifeyhunter4034 11 ай бұрын
Imagine if The Royal Flush Gang in Arkham series
@tvheadd
@tvheadd 11 ай бұрын
New theory: clay face impersonating zazz.
@llamalad4903
@llamalad4903 11 ай бұрын
This is crazy and while you’re probably right about this being for the zsaz mission, I think once it was cut the devs intentionally made it look like clayface was there. The boat from arkham city is the dead giveaway for me and it’s these little details across the whole franchise that make me love these games so much
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