"Knife Fights Have No Rules" - Fourth Turning's Neil Howe Reveals The BRUTAL Reality of Civil War

Patrick Bet-David sits down with author Neil Howe to discuss the "Fourth Turning" theory and its impact on societal change. Together, they delve into the potential for an impending revolution and what it could mean for the future.
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[@larrycutting4514]

Having worked in WV, I believed in the beginning that behind every tree was a gun. Now after experiencing WV, there are multiple guns behind every tree and many vets handling them!

[@tonym6193]

Your mistake is thinking those guns will be used to support your side 😂. If anything, they'd rise up in revolt the first

[@Chris-xj5me]

Them boys are definitely protecting themselves period .

[@clintcowan9424]

Love that observation

[@Croiseeman]

The Motto in the Mountain State is "if your gonna be dumb, you better be tough".

[@JP-ec9rl]

Correct there are probably more vets per capita here than anywhere else in the country and because many of us were local guard and reserve and mostly Army and mostly direct combat support, most of us have actually seen combat. And we hang out with our veteran brothers on a regular basis. Now we can talk about all the hunting enthusiasts. There's no such thing as a West Virginian that isn't a marksman. Molon Abe! Boogaloo baby! Just because hillbillies don't put the rifle rack in the back of the pickup window anymore, doesn't mean that the rifle isn't in there.

[@mattolivier1835]

The gov't creates the right/left paradigm. People need to wake up and realize that it should be citizens vs. the US gov't. People need to realize that the US gov't is NOT legitimate. I never gave anyone the right to represent me, right or left. I represent myself.

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

Exactly!

[@2-1inffwa97]

🤫your making to much sense

[@RockerfellerRothchild1776]

Citizens = the right government = the left Stop this "both" sides crap. It's the left...it's always the left

[@gb_120]

Truth.

[@bruceweyers1015]

Colonel MacGregor has been calling BS on US military readiness for years now!!!!

[@petebondurant58]

Colonel MacGregor has been 100% incorrect about every single prediction he's made in regard to the War in Ukraine, and scores of other topics.

[@WhiteManXRP]

Your fuckin high bro, McGregor is dead on​@@petebondurant58

[@WhiteManXRP]

His word is Gold, Scott Ritter too

[@rubenmocuta3109]

colonel macg is consistently full of crap and some of you eat it up.

[@garthhancock3373]

@@petebondurant58 Keep rolling that meth bowl if you think that.

[@ampovpodcast1624]

Whatever war is coming is going to be scary times, only the strong survives

[@realMelonTusk]

I guess that means you're SOL

[@fatronjones]

Ie. Only the smart and wealthy survive.

[@nf_qc6486]

@@fatronjones just because you have money doesnt mean youre smart lol. im sorry but if the civil war happens the rich are going to be targeted first

[@2-1inffwa97]

Good luck city folk

[@comicslinger]

​@@fatronjonesSmart, yes. Wealth, not really.

[@markphillips9822]

The level of distaine for each other here in America beats any other time in history. It won't take much for us to turn on ourselves.

[@markphillips9822]

Well maybe excluding the civil war

[@777SFINN777]

Would it really be "turning on ourselves" or would it be "turning on a globalist, socialist, godless ideology that sees no borders"? To me that isn't an American, German, Britain, South African... that is the definition of foreign threat.

[@aaf6711]

Disdain. (Sorry)

[@layinlow77]

We should all remember that chaos favors the establishment. The enemy isn't other citizens (no matter how ignorant they may be).

[@Asildriez]

All in the name of progress....whatever that means.

[@MgtowRubicon]

"Rules? In a knife fight? No rules!" -- Ted Cassidy as "Harvey Logan" in the movie "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"

[@stephencarmichael5156]

He got Patrick on the graphic.....rural States have the best on call military and most of your retired service folks land in the lower tier states.

[@petebondurant58]

"Best on call military" WTF is that supposed to mean? You think those reservists in Michigan are going to risk their pension to play Red Dawn in the woods? Those "retired folk" get their pension checks from the federal government. Go take your Minuteman cosplay where it belongs, Rambo...and that's a Halloween party.

[@M_mcin]

The wolf does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep. The strongest survive. Rules are simple, don’t die. By any means necessary.

[@jameshudson169]

In WW2 we had the Panama canal. Jimmy Carter gave it away.

[@MA_KA_PA_TIE]

You only own what you can defend. If the US wants to use the canal it can at any time as it has the military force to do so and Panama does not have the forces capable of stopping the US.

[@PurplKingdom]

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[@Theotherlostprimarch]

Pat! I beg that you speak with Whitney Webb about JD Vance’s ties to Palantir!

[@ruidadgmailcanada8508]

It doesn’t matter, politics is a scam. Anywhere and everywhere. For 3000+ years it’s never worked anywhere n Earth. Open your eyes and unplug from their system.

[@JonGray-v9v]

Your brilliance is in usually asking the right questions, and verify/disqualify perceptions.

[@soumakirimoto2195]

that laugh at 7:27 is really rich people laugh😂 Nice discussion

[@stephen655321]

Sucession would take place in every way except in name. More and more states continue to ignore federal law. If that trend continues, it's eventually just a financial arrangement between states and the Fed

[@petebondurant58]

It's SECESSION.

[@hobgoblin9339]

Honestly I think the political discourse is blown way out of proportion. I for sure see alot of people who hate conservatives and like minded thinkers, but not civil war levels of people. And I’m talking about like in person people at gatherings, not online in the dead internet

[@mattolivier1835]

It's not just right vs. left son. Some people understand the truth, that the US gov't is NOT legitimate. They are my enemy regardless of which side is in office.

[@tvelasquez718]

Colorado has a Huge Gun Culture despite the Political Degenerates in Power.

[@thisworldendsoct2024]

3 months to go starting tomorrow! 🎤👇

[@BenQotsa]

of what?

[@jen8063]

​@@BenQotsamaybe the clue is in it's youtube handle

[@dtpietrzak]

@jen8063 😂😂😂

[@Jorgetrader]

The ides start when the holliberry turns red

[@BenQotsa]

@@jen8063 i dont understand

[@kentuckydan]

What is process for a State leaving the Union? Winning a War of Secession, which was what the first one was not a Civil War, in a Civil War two groups battle over who gets to run the country

[@williamleadbetter9686]

Czechoslovakia was a very rare circumstance where succession did not cause violence and that was largely because the two countries saw each other as the quite similar in nature & culture

[@brittanymcdonaldbarr1106]

I agree with Neil Howe. I wouldn’t mess with West Virginia.

[@21Problemz999]

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[@leifkemp]

WVA is a GREAT place to be if TSHTF!

[@jameshudson169]

What about Hungary breaking away from Austria?

[@jameshudson169]

@SchroedingersDog austria lost hungary in 1867.

[@marymahoney6903]

Play the Rich make more money in the poor Stay poor so why do a war at all?

[@noeticjustice1535]

“There’s no process for breaking the process.”

[@bryantsamperi3402]

"My Kingdom is not of this world. If it was my servants would fight" - the Creator and Master of all.

[@JP-ec9rl]

Not yet anyway.

[@mr8966]

Thanks for all the clips hut why wouldn’t you also post the entire video???????? 😡

[@SazachaNancySktghaxeeahw-rp5gd]

Never thought you’d steal ARCHAIX data of isometric predictive cronology… but you did!

[@darbyohara]

4:30 secession can take place legally and peacefully. The issue is the government uses coercion to force people who don’t want to stay to stay. It’s fundamentally unamerican

[@politicalsheepdog]

Are you talking Federal Military assets in each state? Just because a Federal Asset is located in a State that does not mean it belongs to that state. Nothing says the personnel would go along with the politics of the State they are located in. A better measure of Military power would be comparing National Guard numbers in each state. The problem with National Guard numbers is the ammunition is controlled by the Federal Government unless the State has stockpiled ammunition or has it's own State Owned ammunition factories.

[@darthmorgoththesecond9990]

LA PEN!!!! LA PEN!!! LA PEN!!!!!

[@petebondurant58]

Le Pen is about as right-wing as Nancy Pelosi.

[@Enjoy_my_1st_Amendment]

Though I dont hope for either. I do believe we American's have been far removed from any serious conflict within the country. With that if our own was to happen I think large majority would come face to face with very real fear the likes of which they couldn't imagine. I believe that will be a heavy damper on any significant fire's that may begin to spread. People rarely talk about the serious culture shock that internal conflict would impose.

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

1:40 a WEF "young leader"

[@maggot1111666]

there is a process to secede in america legally. you can hold a constitutional convention and if other states allow a state to secede by some vote margin they can secede

[@cr6231]

What % of states needs to accept?

[@maggot1111666]

@@cr6231 im not sure. what I read a long time ago that I remember is that "states need to agree." i havent read the specifics of a constitutional convention either. my only point is that there is a process

[@chrismoiser6477]

Can't see it happening. The USA's size, geography and enormous pools of human and natural potential are what make it the world's most powerful and wealthy nation. Even losing just one state would seriously dent American power and prestige, especially if that state were California or Texas, the two most obvious candidates. Any attempts to secede would almost certainly result in a civil war.

[@maggot1111666]

@@chrismoiser6477 I agree with your analysis. i just think we should always be advocating for peace first and constitutional convention instead of jumping to civil war

[@vtencouchclimbr267]

Why are so many podcast host constantly talking about a civil war? Reminds me of when the late night hosts were talking nonstop about the vax.

[@jenniferbond5771]

We are still in the first turning😮

[@GuriRai-g5t]

Never seen someone with PBD merchandise

[@robhowe4th]

I wonder if somewhere down the line Neil & myself could possibly be related. Gordie Howe is my 2nd cousin twice removed so he was my grandfathers cousin. Never know though

[@pulithevar8135]

Civil Unrest, sure. The rest? Where are the mounting actual militias for a brewing Civil War? I think people with these takes are too politically active/online too much...cause if I go outside about the day, no one wants a war in America. Besides crazy people. Although I'm sure there's a lot of animosity these days on Ideological lines as they have become so sharp-edged, but- Like Liberals/Conservatives not getting along, type-thing. Which we all have much more in common than not, but people don't care about that. And I'm no Civil War expert, but back in the day information took longer to get around, and there was more time for Dogma, to really take hold. And checks and balances are why a Fascist Dictatorship (although the US Government is already long-corrupt), won't come to pass. But they'll get people worried about it, so you can vote for them. WW3, that's the most likely. And just like one could consider the right sketchy. I ask this is the packing of the Supreme Court not sketchy when Democrats held majority in every part of every branch (at that specific time during Biden's Presidency so far)? It doesn't have to be so black and white with these things, there are better ways to go about reform, if that's your goal.

[@mattolivier1835]

You wouldn't think that way if you understood the truth, that the US gov't is NOT legitimate.

[@blueyedevil3479]

Cali has more ppl… Texas has its own air force and more of everything else… except anti gov weirdos. Cali has more of those

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[@SamuraiCop]

Each brings about the other.

[@jobob47]

west virginia! fuck yeah!!!

[@g00se99]

British commonwealth, Canada and Australia

[@sitindogmas]

✌️💚 from the middle of W.V. but ima tell ya, don't come around here with that dumb shit, your left, right whatever, this is our home, lets hope we dont have to find out

[@christaylor8472]

I can't see individual states seceded. It'll be all or nothing. Citizens won't accept that their neighbor state is another nation.

[@SaltySeabee]

Frances action during the Spot Elections is a RoadMap for the US elections.

[@Reathety]

No one wants to invade WV. It's rough terrain and not a lot to get if you captured the state.

[@josephBC3652]

I'm a veteran I have had my share of knife fight in that jungle up in North Korea.

[@Harbringe]

The truth when it comes to modern armaments we cannot afford what is needed in all out war. Iraq was a limited war , China , Russia would be all out and due to the level of sophistication of these weapons they would quickly bankrupt us. Its one thing to make a thousand missiles , its another to have to replace them continually.

[@birddog9201]

So we gotta buy the book to find out if we’re going to have a civil war? Give me a break.

[@petebondurant58]

This guy's a grifter.

[@Kurt1969]

Thanks.

[@rosspayne2235]

There's no such thing as a fair fight anything goes when it's on ...

[@roberthansen3546]

To have a civil war you have to have two opposing ideologies. In America what you will have is anarchy when the government can't cover the entitlement checks.

[@face-in-the-crowd]

Why are we not getting any updates?

[@rosalindpacana1330]

Non of those wars ✌️✌️✌️

[@martymcfly4434]

Bro you speak so much about a civil war happening I feel like you really want that to happen again

[@bellaclyde]

This sounds like how Bush was able to get the "patriot act" passed.

[@JackParmenter]

No matter what happens in this country my friends WE THE PEOPLE always seek God's guidance FIRST just like our Founding Fathers. Jesus is King! Not the government! A government without God is a sad group destined for failure.

[@jeffmartin5998]

The founding fathers gave tie breaker vote for scotus to our VP (at that time VP was opponent to President) SEPERATION of power(S) ??? jeffersom /adams

[@eedsYT]

I enjoy your show but why keep the focus on a potential civil war? Why hype up the extreme idiots on either side? Why not be a calming influence to remember each other’s humanity?

[@jaewok5G]

fun fact; american civilians own more weapons than ALL of the other national armies COMBINED! i read that somewhere reliable.

[@b.a.m.5078]

*chuckles in Montana*

[@GhostofJohnDaly]

Patrick has clearly never been to WV!!!

[@darthstarone3532]

What kind of civil war it's going to be dope users vs cocaine users or fentanyl users vs k2 users let guess gays versus the straights it would be the most insane war ever 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭

[@jorndoff2002]

This channel loves to talk about civil war. Almost makes me think they want that

[@robertlevi3202]

Alabama

[@cappstreet1601]

The Japanese inww2said-we could never invade the USA because there is a rifle behind every bush

[@PhillyHardy]

Gucci the festivals that Rochambeau had

[@mmistyblucooper8931]

Both may if we dont unite

[@mattolivier1835]

Should be US citizens vs. the US gov't. Not right vs. left.

[@seanohare5488]

America was lucky there was a draft in 1940

[@ob1n]

Everyone in WV owns 10 guns.... amatuers!😂😅

[@locoemutwo4872]

FDR pulled us into WW II

[@Beez27]

Bring WHITNEY WEBB BACK ON. She was just on Jimmy Dore. She has much to say about JD and the $ trail to Trump to ensure JD the VP nomination. You might want to look at Peter Theil too.

[@kurtthorpe7659]

Pat, the american hunters are ready.

[@Crackshotsteph]

West Virginia has a lot of coal miners no? Also most West Virginians are packing a lot of heat.

[@petebondurant58]

Neil Howe has never actually participated in a civil war, or in any other sort of war.

[@milkybar06]

So what , he is just expressing his opinion.

[@petebondurant58]

@@milkybar06 He has an opinion on something he has never experienced.

[@FuturuzedBrain931]

​@petebondurant58 you are watching one person's perspective. If you dont like it, you can go search for perspectives from people who have been in civil war. Simple.

[@petebondurant58]

@@FuturuzedBrain931 His perspective of what?

[@DHEspana]

No but he studies them extensively just like how historians study history and are experts in their field without having time machines

[@Mr.Mister96]

Only visible comment

[@soulie2001]

Communism can be slow. Via Socialism. Fascism is always a fast expanding power. It was obvious who the 1st enemy was.

[@GlenSwartwout]

Hawaii and Texas have a perfect right to secede.

[@whitehouseummahh9725]

This guy loses all credibility with me when he allows PBD to say “what the process for a state to succeed”? It’s secede SECEDE SECEDE!! not success/succeed! That’s a big important basic word to be totally fucking up!

[@steveharmon6440]

Perfect example of failed succession: Ukraine - East, Russian speaking Ukraine tried to leave after the 2014 coup... After 8 years of being bombed Russia stepped in to protect them AND ITSELF FROM NATO AGGRESSION.

[@petrmalecek8317]

PBD looks less sure that "the future is bright."

[@crazyhandshands9028]

Notice everyone is selling a book ,the only book i stand by is the Bible and Almighty God is in control 🙏 always ♥️

[@rickpcp]

You gotta arrest Patric Bet David for trying to start a civil war. Smh. What state has the strongest military. 😂.

[@namelastname2179]

Dude! Fix your audio. Or take a drink of water. All i hear is the sounds of a super dry mouth, the smacking soundds🤢

[@luisalphahernandezomega1704]

*NEITHER DO GUN FIGHTS.*

[@irishseven100]

The ever annoying book plug. F The Book. OK...

[@billyfolse1316]

Telling this information gives bad people advice. Really bad idea to discuss live man

[@Gortman1]

Too much screwing around with rob!

[@IndridCold.]

Neo Trump

[@Jtitor177]

God...PBD is so frustrating. Such a know-it-all. He has NO humility and fails to recognize that maybe there are others that know more than him. Neil Howe was amazing as always, but PBD's attitude and unhealthy level of skepticism and arrogance shined through as always.

[@NalaZia]

The devil is in details.

[@will.davlin]

🟩Wool socks to bed = life changing sleep quality 🟪

[@HesJustaPoorBoyNobodylovesHim]

secede not succeed

[@johnnyleach7152]

This fourth turning stuff is new age mumbo-jumbo....

[@cliffordmp]

Yagoda, read his true story she has been saying this crap multiplie times now. Stalin grew up in a Christian family (he was Yagodas boss and instruced him, indeed he evetually and him tried and killed (and kept the gulags going after Yagodas death. They were both communist / Athiests who killed people of all religions (that was the point to install atheism into society). How can Russel Brand not chalange or provide basic knowledge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda

[@Theotherlostprimarch]

Pat! I beg that you speak with Whitney Webb about JD Vance’s ties to Palantir!

[@Theotherlostprimarch]

Pat! I beg that you speak with Whitney Webb about JD Vance’s ties to Palantir!

[@chetlockwood1491]

I think Whitney Webb is way overrated, She has gotten herself involved in financial skullduggery. She quotes and spreads information based on her sponsor's financial interests, she may be peddling a disinformation operation. There was a time when she appeared credible, but like I said she has swallowed the blue pill and plays on her wallet's wishes