Knife Saw 刀锯 - Traditional Chinese Woodworking Tool

[@TheWoodYogi]

Another great tool, it looks really comfy by shape :) Really looking forward to the sliding dovetail video ॐ

[@johnzzhu]

Thanks Yogi. Working on editing that one together.

[@TheWoodYogi]

Great :) I like the look of Chinese tools, but there isn't much information about. Do you know of any English translated books? Maybe you could do a series covering the basics of Chinese woodworking or some comparisons / differences to European and American technique ॐ

[@johnzzhu]

Honestly, I don't think there are drastic differences. I think woodworking is a perfect example of convergent evolution. It's not like you couldn't make European-esc furniture with Chinese tools or vice versa. The commonality is gross and differences tiny.

[@AdventuresInDIY]

I'm really enjoying the Chinese tool projects!

[@teentheblue3644]

Always reckon this type of Chinese knife saw got to be the best handtool to open a groove/slot that is perpendicular to the grain

[@brightnuertey1451]

Great tortorials keep it up 👍

[@federico4331]

Thank you John. Great value in your channel.

[@johnzzhu]

The title says "dovetail/short saw" but the correct translated name is "knife saw (刀锯)." Apologizes for the error.

[@chaodong4620]

John Zhu I thought it call 楼锯（louju），chinese dongbei call japanese saw 刀锯

[@chaodong4620]

great work anyway

[@johnzzhu]

The West has a similar saw called stair case saw. There may be many names. This is the name the Chinese master used in his title.

[@timflanigan8586]

Really like the two tone handle!

[@franka5416]

Awesome project and idea, thanks for sharing.

[@johnzzhu]

You're welcome.

[@kevindumais9610]

I like the hand made saw blade.

[@johnzzhu]

Thanks, you might want to check out the link to the more detailed method of making a saw blade.

[@johnsoncustomcarpentry6844]

Very impressed, I thought you was going to repurpose an old blade. Nice work!

[@georgesikonomou3895]

Thanks a lot men i realy love this guy and the way he works

[@johnzzhu]

You're welcome. His approach and mine are very different, you'd have to follow the link in the description to get how he did it.

[@robertbrunston5406]

Looks cool John! Bet it's pretty handy to use! Thank you.

[@johnzzhu]

Thanks RB.

[@WayofWood]

Great project. The brass riveting is not only easier but also visually a nice combination with the steel and the wood.

[@johnzzhu]

Thank you. I like it, I just think solid brass is a very classy touch when not over done.

[@argentorangeok6224]

You have a very cool channel. Although I'm only interested in pursuing western woodworking methods, I find myself in sheer admiration of the natural, graceful beauty of Chinese and Japanese joinery and lines, and the tools used to make them. That saw is gorgeous and fascinating. Subbed.

[@johnzzhu]

When I started Western woodworking techniques is all I did (2005-2016). Now I have taken the best of Chinese and European techniques.

[@carlopieracci2828]

many thanks Sir for ypur videos. You demonstrate one could works wood with almost no expense of money and still obtains beautiful results.

[@crazymcrazym1483]

good handmade working Master!!! Super Arbeit von einem echt Meister Seines Fachs

[@johnzzhu]

Thank you.

[@nowhereman112244]

Very nice, enjoy watching your videos

[@johnzzhu]

Thank you, I make them for viewers like yourself.

[@bonesstones6584]

Excellent!

[@johnzzhu]

Thank you.

[@jessjulian9458]

That looks really good John. Thanks for sharing your talents and experience.

[@johnzzhu]

You're very welcome.

[@garagemonkeysan]

Nice to see these tool builds. : )

[@johnzzhu]

Thank you.

[@yaominghe5344]

感觉这把刀锯用来开槽相当好使啊

[@Lemongrasspicker]

It almost reminds me of a stair saw. Pretty neat piece

[@johnzzhu]

It functions very much like it, you can use a stair saw to make the same cuts. I think (having never used a stair case saw) that this saw give you a different level/type of control. I hope to show you that in the sliding dovetail demonstration video.

[@Lemongrasspicker]

John Zhu I'd like to see it in action. I'll be watching

[@tomlagatol4448]

Enjoyed the Vid, Thanks!

[@johnzzhu]

You're very welcome.

[@MRrwmac]

Very nice and well done project. Looking forward to the build where you use it. Dang John, that cutting disc break was a close one for sure! Could have gone right through you. Very very glad you weren’t hurt! The Earth Dog of 4716 must be watching over you!

[@johnzzhu]

Thanks mac. I was behind the disc, it flung forward and down from me. But I agree I am blessed. You know what they say "don't tempt your Lord God," so I always try to remember to put on battle gear.

[@SebR-FR]

Great ! thx :)

[@johnzzhu]

you're welcome.

[@billallmon4094]

This is so cool im an ol fart wood worker and now im your grasshopper

[@johnzzhu]

Lol BA. Age is not a factor in self-improvement. Happy to be able to lead.

[@HeavyTone66]

Looks great John, going to give this a crack, may try making the blaade like the azebiki style. Very nice finish on the handle too! Re the steel and brass. I think the original used the same metal as the brass and steel method may come loose due to different exansion.. but I seriously doubt it will effect performance.

[@johnzzhu]

I thought about an azebiki; but am trying to focus on Chinese woodworking because lots of people on Western YT do/adhere/obsess over Japanese woodworking.

[@HeavyTone66]

John Zhu fair call. Your right, a lot do obsess without really understanding the tool or its history, if they studied a bit more they would know a lot of Japanese tools originated in Chinese areas and were modified over the years to suit. Still a great tool you have made. Not going to stop me making one oneday!

[@johnzzhu]

To each is his own. I am not responsible for those whose understanding is "he who has the most tools wins."

[@maeafrika]

Sensacional. Você é o cara!

[@johnzzhu]

Thank you.

[@jamesbrandon4260]

I love your channel. This is a fantastic video. I could have used this saw before and I will try making one. What gauge/thickness of steel did you use? Is it a plain steel or stainless steel?

[@johnzzhu]

.025" if i recall correctly. It is high carbon steel.

[@jamesbrandon4260]

@@johnzzhu thank you. This should be a fun project

[@randomdds]

Looks a lot like an Azebiki, a japanese specialized saw.

[@yiyongleng7157]

喜欢你的视频，锯齿也自己做，了不起！

[@johnzzhu]

多谢了。有时自己做的比买的要好。

[@georgesikonomou3895]

Création vidéo, i already knew this guy but for some reason he doesn't make videos anymore and i can't follow the link you put :( Anyway great job and keep on the good work

[@johnzzhu]

He only makes video on youku, the videos on youtube are or are not approved by him. I thought about voice over translation of his youku video, but I can't find his contact info to ask for permission. The links to his videos are now fixed.

[@Aubreykun]

He is on youtube now! kzbin.info/door/SaXOMZMrMCZPdbPG947_-Avideos?disable_polymer=1

[@QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa]

Maybe it will perform better than European back saw. it has a long handle to hold .

[@Lolmasaurus]

Is there any set to the teeth?

[@johnzzhu]

Yes, you decide on how much.

[@clydedecker765]

John, my admiration for your talent is unending but this series of tools leaves something to be desired. You mention making "push" and "pull" blades but never explain how. You do show making one but ... that was not a "how" at all. I am supposing you could buy commercially available blades and cut them to fit ... I'd love to see how you maintain a precise 8 degree angle while cutting the dovetail across a wide board. I also assume adding a point to the blade would help in stopped dados.. Smaller teeth on the tip (1/2 inch or so followed by wider spacing?? Please make something to tie all of these together?

[@johnzzhu]

I have a video linked in the description on how to make blades. It is not my job to film 3 hr videos on a simple subject. The point of my video is to inspire people to try, there is sufficient information for anyone to make this saw if they wanted to. It is not the point of the videos to nauseate myself with details, humble brags, and pointless commentary. I can maintain the 8 degree angle because I blessed with work ethic and worked hard and trained my eye, hand, and feel coordination. There is no trick or short cut I can the viewers.

[@yegong1425]

@@johnzzhu实木木工手工制作的精度不如钳工或机械加工，首先是使用者技术能力有限，手工制作总会产生误差，这是与机械加工的最大区别。其次是木材在使用过程中随环境变化而伸缩变形，加工时的高精度在成品使用过程中并不能永久保持。所以7度或者9度都是能够被接受的。辛老说过，十活九病。哈哈

[@QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa]

back saw is a more correct name.

[@QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa]

Old Manchurian tool , cut when pulling.

[@曹博-o1k]

不懂！这种锯子有什么特别之处。我还看到了。你的锤子好像不是木工的锤子。总之什么锤子只要自己用着顺手就好。但是想讲一下。你的锤子那么重，看着你用的时候。好像就不是很顺手。我总觉得你的锤子好像是从锻工或者钣金工、钳工那里借来的

[@johnzzhu]

It is used to make short cuts in cramped spaces, I use this saw a lot since I've made it. The hammer is just what I had laying around, the roundness of the back of the hammer helps to set the rivet.

[@daisycorta3340]

oliver