Knightfall

we're moving between continents so I decided the best use of my time was to spend a week and a half putting together a woke mario culture war response video. if you like the video and want to help out with moving costs, consider the support links below
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Watch Shadiversity's Original Response Here: • JACK SAINT blatantly l...
Tracks Featured (listed as they appear):
Opa Opa - Nathan Welch
Airship Theme - Super Mario Bros 3 OST
Across Land and Sea - Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen
Dire Dire Docks - Super Mario 64 OST
Athletic - Super Mario World OST
Koopa Beach - Super Mario Kart OST
Underwater - Super Mario World OST
Dwarf Fortress Main Theme - Dwarf Fortress OST
Boy Meets Girl (Twoson) - Earthbound OST
Ending Theme - Super Mario World OST
0:00 A Fool's deceit
6:41 Woke War Mario
9:50 The Response Part
14:11 The many lies of Shadiversity
25:17 Squirely Tactics
38:04 sir shad's context
45:03 Twisted truths
54:24 Woke Propaganda
1:04:55 Conclusion
1:09:41 Addendum

[@LackingSaint]

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[@toastbeing1202]

Shad is also a climate change denier

[@danielheflin6658]

Hey, if you need any practice ahead of your duel, hit me up. I, like Shad, am also a dedicated LARPer and am more than willing to show you all the fancy tricks to beat him in 1v1 combat. Offer stands, just need to make your way over to Washington state first. I await your call. I've been noticed! I am 4REAL bro. I used to fight 3+ days a week for years. I've been quoted saying 'Musashi's 5 Rings is my bible.' I can be the Princess Peach to your Mario. I'm a WAY bigger nerd than Shad is. Also, love the DF theme stinger, LET'S GOOOOOOOO

[@juggaloclownpreacher]

The people who watch this guy's channel should have known he was a because the guy was walking around with swords and dressed up in armor from the Dark Ages. There are only two kinds of people who study history the ones who want to learn and stop it from happening again and the ones who wanted to happen again because they want to be making history. Knights are famous for massacring Muslims and a whole bunch of other innocent people.

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

Worse music track credits than Super Mario Movie, how dare you Justice for Koji Kondo

[@zephyr8072]

I love how Shad's fans kept saying his response was some epic debunking of Jack when it's one of the most whiny, mean-spirited and juvenile response videos I've ever seen in my life.

[@ThatOneGuy0006]

Saying "bowser is a simp now" unironically as if that hasn't been his singular, primary character trait for almost 40 years now is insane.

[@starmaker75]

It like complaining darth Vader as a space fascist in the recent Star Wars mini series he in. Like that the point

[@zestybomb]

That's like saying Eggman became a narcissist after the movies came out? Have you played the games?

[@explody7836]

Robot Chicken made that joke when I was in college, and it was worn out even then. The only thing that changed is the terminology.

[@Mygg_Jeager]

Actually he was never a simp. He was kidnapping Princess Peach the means to an end, and that end was to lure out his arch-nemesis, Mario. His role was previously held by Donkey Kong. Bowser has never expressed any sort of sympathy, empathy, or romantic leanings towards Princess Peach.

[@shadowhunter0815]

@@Mygg_Jeager Paper Mario 1 & 2, Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Odyssey and several other Mario Titles disagree with you on that one...

[@harmonlanager2670]

“Mario never needed power ups before” I would like to remind everyone that the plot of Mario Sunshine was that, without the assistance of a powered up water pump, Mario was going to rot away in a Venezuelan prison

[@justaghostinthesea]

Yeah, he has at least two games built around power ups. Sunshine, like you said, and Odyssey

[@jamestomato1744]

AND not to mention that Mario power ups, at least in my opinion, is like - a massive part of the appeal.

[@justaghostinthesea]

@@jamestomato1744 Yeah, that too.

[@0lionheart]

@@justaghostinthesea let's also not forget that from the beginning, Mario has always started as a little teeny tiny guy until he found a mushroom. Dies in one hit, has no attacks. Powerups have been integral since the start, so their statement was just.. baffling

[@martophrenia]

@@0lionheart "little teeny tiny guy until he found a mushroom. Dies in one hit, has no attacks" very traditional male hero

[@hallamhal]

About 10 minutes into this, I was wondering what Shad's opinion of Shrek would be... Where Princess Fiona spends half the film saving Shrek and Donkey from trouble, and ultimately chooses her own fate at the end regardless of the role society wants her to fit into. But then I realised, I don't really care what he thinks

[@iandegiovani4703]

Nice.

[@gasterg.continent3118]

As again Shrek is unironically the best film of all time (on accident)

[@animationunlimited2958]

So, basically Shad is less a modern knight and more of a modern Don Quixote not seeing things for what they really are.

[@blackknightjack3850]

I never thought about it that way, but holy shit yes.

[@jojorose1947]

My man out here tilting at windmills

[@DavidSantosManuel]

you stole my exact thoughts

[@vivazapata123]

except that Don Quijote wanted to fight against the injustice in the world and protect the weak from the strong. I don't see Shad doing that.

[@beesforbreakfast]

Another important distinction is that, whilst it personally took a minute to get into the swing of the language, Don Quixote is a _phenomenally_ funny book

[@hoarsebard]

He truly has become a Don Quixote. So immersed in his medieval knight larping that he's making up battles to be in.

[@saintbrush4398]

Exactly lmao

[@onepresence9460]

He would perfect for the role in a live-action Dom Quixote adaptation 😂🤣

[@maybeyourbaby6486]

Clearly, Jack should've dressed up as a windmill instead of a fool lmao

[@marocat4749]

Imao, go to skallagrimm instead, chill creator and actually could swordfight. No shame on doing it for fun.

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

@@marocat4749 Skallagrim is very chill, yeah. And honestly, people who actually spend time researching medieval stuff and doing reenactment and all that really tend to not like Shad, because a lot of the stuff he says ist just stupid.

[@kaedotmoe]

Everyone is like "wtf the sword guys like this" but i want to point out how hilarious a guy in a knight cosplay complaining about the obsolescence of damsel in distress tropes is

[@kaedotmoe]

Guy wearing plastic chainmail: "girls want to be saved !!!

[@SheezyBites]

​@@kaedotmoe He's wearing a cotton hoodie with a chainmail print, he does own real chainmail but it's too heavy to wear while he's busy getting angry at fictional women.

[@kaedotmoe]

​@@SheezyBites i just finished watching the video, these people aren't jumping at ghosts, theyre shouting at windmills

[@Gustoberg]

​@@kaedotmoe OMG Shad is literally Dom Quixote!

[@Firegen1]

​ He is! I can imagine him singing the incel version of "The Impossible Dream"

[@AN-jz3kf]

24:00 wait until Shad learns women horse riders wore pants 💀even among the upperclass (like, for instance, a princess)

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

riding wear vs formal wear moment

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@pallingtontheshrike6374, And... men wore dresses too....

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

@@aralornwolf3140 very true

[@fluidthought42]

Well it was a controversial decision to do so in some parts of history. But ah in recent history Nintendo gave Peach a racing outfit for Mario Kart games... which is what she was wearing in that scene. Her official Nintendo form fitting racing outfit. I guess Mario Kart (and Mario Strikers, I guess) is too woke for Shad because... fuck man I dunno he's too in deep in the sauce to self reflect.

[@explosion9815]

Cannot get over the lunacy of Shad claiming that most guys would sooner save a hot princess than their brother. Was everything okay growing up, Shad?

[@truffeltroll6668]

No, he's Mormon.

[@gokbay3057]

Even worse is that he actually has a brother (actually multiple brothers, I think.). Like I could perhaps see an only child make that comment (I as an only child wouldn't but y'know, I could see people who never experienced having a sibling think that). But the fact that Shad said that while he has brothers really is something. I suppose the fact that he is into AI art while (one of) his brother(s) Jazza is an artist and that claim could be interpreted together.

[@Kuzka_]

@@gokbay3057I envy your naive perspective. Or maybe you just happen to be so lucky. I've seen enough men being ignored by other men for a possibility of getting down to something.

[@KrissFliss]

Poor Jazza...

[@Hawkatana]

@@Kuzka_ There's naivete, and then there's not living in whatever fantasy world you're in.

[@argonianbum]

I was sad enough when I found out that wholesome sword man was so hateful and gatekeepy, but my heart fucking DROPPED when he mentioned that he thinks it is a sign of something bad when his daughter gets excited to see a strong female character on screen, that guts me. I was always a tom boy growing up and I just can't imagine how soul crushing and alienating it would be if my parents were actively annoyed or tried to discourage joy in seeing something like that. I'm 33 now, I think little me would've loved to have an actual superhero or something I could look up to, and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there's some correlation between that and the massive success of franchises like Pokemon where the focus wasn't on the human protagonists as much

[@myrmepropagandist]

Yeah. He went from being a potentially cool dad... to the biggest disappointment.

[@thevioletbee5879]

Pokémon has plenty of focus on its human characters. And for a children’s series, they’re pretty damn great.

[@marocat4749]

I mean he isnt the worst but, eem yeah. sargon is a bad inluence, and ther are cool progressive mormons, no excuse.

[@Shoyren]

@@marocat4749 considering there are parents who’re physically violent and go even beyond that, I think that’s faint praise. :/

[@idontwantahandlethough]

@@marocat4749 "ther[e] are cool progressive mormons, no excuse." That's kinda true, but not really? I mean I'm sure they exist somewhere, but most of the time people think someone is a "cool, progressive mormon", they're actually just good at hiding their disgusting views when non-mormons are around. Don't get me wrong: mormons are generally some of the most friendly, helpful, outgoing people on earth. It's just that their public-facing and private-facing personalities are often night and day. That very well might not be true for the cool Mormons you know, but I figured I'd mention it so nobody gets surprised that their cool mormon friend turned out to be a super-bigot.. because there usually _is_ a super bigot underneath, unfortunately. It's a crazy -religion- cult.

[@rinaejones2265]

God, him just coming out and saying that his daughter felt empowered by the movie and that's a bad thing because she should be accepting that her natural role is to be a damsel in distress Nightmare nightmare nightmare nightmare

[@MadameSomnambule]

I shudder to think of how he'd treat his own daughter once she gets old enough to date. I see an estranged dad in her future if his mindset doesn't change for the better. Either that or a brainwashed woman in the likes of Girl Defined (and that's the WORST case scenario)

[@Ben-fk9ey]

@@MadameSomnambule There's a good reason that his brother Jazza who is also a KZbinr seems to have cut ties with him.

[@avlaenamnell6994]

That bit just... Ugh....

[@KarlSnarks]

@@Ben-fk9ey You mean Jazza the drawing guy!? Would definitely not have noticed the family resemblance.

[@gayanudugampola8973]

What a terrible thing to say as a parent. Like what kind of parent would not want their child feeling empowered?

[@trolldrool]

As a man who spent spent much of my childhood in a make believe world pretending to be a knight, I can safely say that rescuing damsels in distress was the absolute last thing I wanted. Because damsels were girls and girls had cooties.

[@enzoarayamorales7220]

“Fuck princesses I wanna slay this dragon!!!”

[@mateuszjokiel2813]

​@@enzoarayamorales7220 "Fuck princesses" kid you're too young for that.

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

i chuuni’d as a blacksmith. didn’t help that my favorite game at the time was jacksmith. fuck i’m so old

[@jojorose1947]

@@enzoarayamorales7220 Or in Mario terms, "Slay princess, fuck that dragon!!!"

[@jojorose1947]

I equally wanted to be a knight and a witch and fight dragons and piss off gods. But I guess playing D&D with my friends I should just make my character a damsel that needs rescuing lmao. "sorry guys I can't help out in combat, I don't want to seem like a girlboss, a bigot manchild on the internet might get offended"

[@SuperCopyCat12]

"Boys will want to save the pretty princess more than their brothers!" Really telling on yourself there Shad, wow

[@CitBox]

Imagine not caring about your supportive and loving brother, but instead caring about an attractive woman you've barely met, at best.

[@captainfluffypaws7068]

Clearly he hasn't formed a strong bond with his brother

[@jojorose1947]

Shad is a bad brother and also I guess hates Luigi's Mansion, two huge Ls.

[@dustrockblues7567]

Shad really said "hoes before bros" wtf

[@50733Blabla1337]

@@captainfluffypaws7068 Im pretty sure his brother openly said he doesnt share shads political views when he got into his anti sjw phase. He also has a youtube channel Draw with Jazza, seems like a nice guy so obviously shad wouldnt like him.

[@littlelordfuckleroy3822]

I know that on the surface this guy’s tantrum over “woke” Mario is funny, but as a woman this kind of phenomenon almost terrifies me. That there’s a growing subsection of men that genuinely don’t see me as a person, to the point that any piece of media that doesn’t portray women in the narrow box they think we deserve to be in is scary to me.

[@swordigosung994]

I am sorry to hear about that. I can promise most sane people aren't like that. Avoid stupid people if you can, or kick their ass if you really can.

[@markbaker4425]

Hes just a mormon theyre all fucking weird. Especially a aussie mormon lol. Imagine being in an american cult and not even be american.

[@andrewdiaz3529]

It's a self feeding fire, and we see where it's backlash is being directed, where and who they want to be burned by its inferno

[@srtatropicalia]

Yes! This makes me extra sad because I know my father is engaging with this anti woke thoughts and debating anything nerdy with him is just hell. Because it fundamentally shows that he thinks I don't deserve to see myself as a hero, because these types of characters will always be mary sues and girl bosses, will never be genuine enough. It's frustrating to adore and see myself as a character that my father just dismisses.

[@rattyeely]

It is scary, but if it's any consolation these people are mostly grifters who don't actually believe half the things they say. The instant they meet a conservative woman they suddenly go all quiet in order to not scare her away. They are sad and isolated people

[@haflaen]

Given Shad’s obsession with knighthood and his presumption to know what women want better than they do themselves, I’m reminded of one of my favourite Arthurian stories, “The Tale of the Loathsome Maiden”. Sir Gawain is riding through the woods when he comes to a bridge guarded by a Black Knight (sound familiar?) who challenges him to a duel and easily bests him, but withholds the final blow. He tells Gawain that he’ll be back in a year to give him that final blow, unless he can tell him the one thing every woman wants the most. Gawain goes on his way and asks every woman he meets what she wants the most, but they each give him a different answer. Finally on the last day of the year he meets a hideous old hag, who says she’ll tell him the answer to the Black Knight’s riddle if he’ll agree to marry her the next day. Not seeing any other option Gawain agrees, and she tells him that what every woman wants most is to decide for herself what she wants without a man deciding for her. The next day the Black Knight returns and Gawain gives him his answer, and he congratulates Gawain and lets him go. But before he does he says, “You know the answer to the riddle, but do you truly understand it?” That evening Gawain goes reluctantly to his wedding with the horrible hag, but when they retire to their bedchamber and she removes her wedding veil, he’s surprised to discover that she’s really beautiful underneath it. She tells him she was cursed by the Black Knight when she refused to marry him, so that she’s beautiful half the day and ugly the other half, and that the curse can only be broken by a man who truly understands the answer to the Black Knight’s riddle. She asks Gawain if he would rather she was beautiful at night when they’re together, or by day when other people will see her. But Gawain, finally understanding the answer to the riddle, asks her what she wants. The curse is broken and the maiden becomes beautiful permanently, and she and Gawain live happily together. The funny thing is, this story is hundreds of years old, but if it was written today Shad would say it was “woke”.

[@Amitlu]

I almost expected a more negative outcome given the period. But that sounds wholesome indeed.

[@henotic.essence]

Sir Gawain was a real one💯

[@drkreuzer670]

I'll be putting this on my wall! this is beautiful! QwQ

[@CalamityCain]

Wow, fantastic comment! Thank you, needed that today :-)

[@autobotstarscream765]

If it doesn't work for Shad, show him the modern version, "Shrek".

[@IanOPadrick]

I cannot get over the idea of people being upset that the Mario movie featured power-ups. It's, like, the most iconic part of the games. The thing that people know about Mario is that he eats mushrooms and gets more powerful, or that he grabs a star and then he's invincible for a little bit. Like, I don't know what game they thought they were playing, but every Mario game has power-ups

[@awandererfromys1680]

Also, the film was basically structured like a video game playthrough. Mario fails over and over again because that's the player experience. Games are no fun if you can speedrun them on your first try. And Peach being perfect is because she's literally the tutorial. All that perfection still didn't help her after that. It's Mario who comes to the rescue. Smart writing, fun worldbuilding, internal consistency, and it just goes _whooosh_ right over their heads.

[@Pitchfallis]

Exactly! Mario’s canonical story form is Mario having consumed a mushroom! They don’t put small Mario on the cover of anything.

[@JJ-qo7th]

And every mainline game that I personally know of, except for Lost Worlds and Doki Doki panic, introduces some new powerup to mess about with, with some new spin on the core mechanics. Fire flower, tanuki, frog, raccoon, p-wing, skip cloud, music box, warp whistle, hammer bros, cape feather, the wing, metal, and phase caps...even the GB titles gave him a superball in Mario Land 1 and flapping rabbit ears in Mario Land 2. Maybe it slowed down in later games? I wouldn't know, I haven't played past SM64, but I do remember he had a friggin' water jetpack in Sunshine.

[@IanOPadrick]

@@JJ-qo7th Ice Flowers, Penguin Suits, Mini Mushrooms, Spring Mushrooms, Bee Suits, Cloud Flowers, Cat Suits, a duplicating cherry thing are all new since 2000 I'm pretty sure. It's a franchise about the power-ups and how they make the game easier

[@Nemamka]

So, wait, let me get this straight - they are mad about Mario not being portrayed as a traditional hero, then they are mad about Mario using powerups... but... Every single "traditional" hero uses powerups. You know, the trials and tribulations they go through?? Luke goes through training! And he receives a lightsaber! Freaking karate kid goes through training, wax on wax off! And then he gets stronger and wins! ALL marvel heroes go through powerups, bitten by a spider, or building a nano suit with a nuclear reactor in the chest, or getting an axe instead of a hammer - this argument makes no sense! The Traditional Hero Journey is when a single guy goes out into the wild and Learns A Lot Of Stuff! With all these mental gymnastics you'd think he'd be a ninja by now, let alone knight lmao

[@patron8597]

"Girls love to be weak and get saved. They will always prefer this." "My daughter would have absolutely loved seeing how cool and strong Peach is, but she isn't allowed to enjoy that." Galax brain right there.

[@MaterialMenteNo]

Also when he says that he's overlooking something really obvious: if you want to be saved, it means that you're in a situation where you need it. Does he think that women wish to be in danger, just to be saved? He thinks that someone would wish to deal with the lifelong repercussions of a damaging experience in order to yearn for a hero who could never come?

[@pyerack]

Kinda sad that by knowing how my mormon uncle thinks and acts I'm honestly not surprised when Shad says this sort of stuff.

[@CitBox]

@@MaterialMenteNo I think it's more that he believes that women being endangered and in unsafe circumstances is a natural occurrence that cannot and should not be questioned. Women must suffer so men can save them, ignoring that the danger that women are facing is men.

[@MaterialMenteNo]

@@CitBox good point. Bad dude takes the poor lady and good dude needs to save her, ignoring how the very idea that a girl/woman is something that can just change owner and be ok is the very motor of the violence.

[@thomasmann4536]

​@@MaterialMenteNo idk what Shad meant, but I think a good phrasing would be: Women want to feel that IF they were in danger, they could be saved. (whereas men want to feel that they could save themselves) This ties into the (supposed or not) desire of women to have, e.g. a strong shoulder to lean and cry on. Those are obviously broad generalizations, but I think it's quite telling that for example the philosophy of stoicism appeals almost exclusively to men.

[@mariejuku]

she's literally a monarch and he's literally a plumber like she is literally the boss

[@j_117]

You could even say she's a SUPER boss

[@Naptosis]

It's especially ironic, as Shad has been subject of a queen for his entire life.

[@vonbongen9363]

@@Naptosis let’s be fair here, the Queen popped her clogs last year so it’s only *almost* his entire life

[@NoName......]

​@von bongen Come on, dude. Not fucking funny. You don't make fun of a dude's dead wife.

[@andreymontag]

Didn't watch the movie, but did they address in any way that Mario has been more of a spec ops guy than a plumber for decades? Also a contender for a royalty, since he almost got married to Peach. I start to suspect that broader Mario lore may not be perfectly consistent

[@alanhorton7300]

Paul Joseph Watson once wrote an article about how alpha men shouldn't wear sandals because they're gay or something, and people were responding "Imagine my sock!"

[@MRuby-qb9bd]

So we're confirming Gay Jesus with this right?

[@reform-revolution]

@@MRuby-qb9bd a smelly hippie with long hair being followed around by a bunch of equally smelly dudes in loose clothing dude was super gay

[@raven3moon]

Quick! Nobody tell him about the Romans or the Greeks! The Legions or the Spartans!

[@MrRancidity]

Paul Joseph Watson was recorded saying he wants to wipe the Jews off the face of the planet. Let's not trivialise his bullshit. He's got monstrous views.

[@zephyr8072]

This is the same guy who claimed soy based products were literally emasculating men while advertising soy based products. PJW is such an obvious and unintelligent grifter I truly wonder how he ever found a following. Oh right, the racism.

[@tylersimmons6524]

The funniest moment to me is Shad in the clip about how Disney is trying to raise your kids... "To fight back, teach your kids to love who they are..." Then he realizes how that is exactly what Disney is doing and immediately tries to course correct with, "teach boys to love being boys and girls to love being girls." But what if your child doesn't fit the gender norms Shad? Should you not teach them to love who they are still?

[@aralornwolf3140]

There's a Disney movie with a gay kid in it... he spent time trying to figure out his feelings for another boy... So... Yes.

[@leichtmeister]

No that would be a sin of the highest degree and they would burn in hell for it plus some other mormon bullshit I guess.

[@beesforbreakfast]

And he _is_ talking about the same Disney that ran roughshod over The Owl House’s production budget and schedule, just so we’re clear?

[@Nemamka]

Our government - Hungary, central eastern Europe - is openly, disgustingly, loudly transphobic, homophobic, and christian conservative, and listening to Shad was like listening to my own prime minister Orban Viktor. "Narual law is a man and a woman making babies" no other kind of family structure or partnership is acceptable in their eyes and they are adamant about protecting children from LGBT agendas and "woke/trans lobby", seeking out enemies wherever they can - meanwhile THEY are the ones dismantling the education system, the healthcare system, they are the ones pardoning p*dophile criminals (just now in 2024)... So this was honestly really wild to watch, I did not expect a guy who I started following for historical accuracy to turn into this absolute bigot. I too am sad for his daughter

[@arempy5836]

He's treating Mario like he's Luke Skywalker when he's not. Mario is Mickey Mouse, he's Popeye the Sailor Man, he's a goofy cartoon character in a slapstick routine. Mario was never meant to be a cool knight on a quest, he was deliberately modeled after old school cartoon protagonists. A character like Mickey mouse isn't cool or competent, he gets flattened and burned and beat but he always bounces back and tries his hardest to get the girl. A character like Popeye is more tough and strong but even he suffers ludicrous injuries when competing against Bluto. Popeye also iconically has his own power up in the form of spinach which gives the incredible strength needed to beat Bluto and save Olive Oyle. In the games, Mario can die in all sorts wacky ways but is able to pop back up and try again and the games are built around using any wild trick you can pull off to reachcthe goal. Shad is so obsessed with this Joseph Campbell valiant hero bullshit that he can't understand what a fucking cartoon is.

[@screamingcactus1753]

The original Donkey Kong was supposed to be a Popeye game but they couldn't get the license so they changed the characters. Popeye became Jumpman, Olive Oyl became Pauline, Bluto became Donkey Kong and spinach became hammers. Mario literally started off as a knockoff Popeye.

[@onionmctwist]

Was just gonna say, has he seen any of the mario cartoons? He's always been portrayed like just a goofy, often schlubby plumber

[@annabelle4655]

When shad starts going in on how princess peach isn't feminine in the movie (?????) it reminds me of a meme: "this is the butchest woman Twitter can handle" and it's a photo of a thin pretty woman with long hair and makeup wearing a motorcycle jacket 😂

[@lekswig3316]

i think an actual butch would make shad have a stroke on the spot

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

I used to think Don Quixote was a bit far fetched, but now here I am seeing a real life wannabee knight tilting at windmills

[@mikaelste-marie1275]

I feel even Don Quixoto will also find them weird.

[@KramerKontained94]

Shad Quixote

[@Tsuruchi_420]

Cervantes was right about everything

[@Tsuruchi_420]

​@@mikaelste-marie1275honestly, while Quixote the character is depicted as a conservative idiot, the author of the book does show SOME pretty "woke" Views on the role of women, especially for his time

[@Blizzic]

Underrated comment.

[@coolbanana165]

Charles Dickens would be called a woke communist today for highlighting the plight of the poor, issues with greed, and the state of society. Aren't almost all stories political? Some people just don't notice if they already fully agree. It would be quite meaningless if it didn't have anything to say about values, life, and society.

[@CitBox]

Even in stories with no message, they still reflect the writer's worldview and all the baggage of it. Such as Tom and Jerry cartoons, they are mostly just slapstick but still reflect the time period's attitudes towards women, black people, and smoking.

[@basedeltazero714]

Charles Dickens was called a 'woke communist' *then*.

[@shzarmai]

exactly smh

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

@@basedeltazero714the equivalent, yeah

[@pallingtontheshrike6374]

it reminds me of when i was a dumbass reading the (spaceship) mercenary isekai, and then when i tried to read it again a few years later and realized it was full of “lol fuck the poor” all over (not to mention literal monarchism)

[@GregStraub42]

"No one had isses with me being a religious conservative until I stopped hiding it and started screeching about it online" Imagine.that.

[@OK-wm2mr]

He didn't hide it, he just showed that he was the worst type of religious conservative

[@paulsmart4672]

The lack of self-awareness is profound. He wants to depict himself as a victim, but complains that suddenly he's getting a lot of negative attention now that he's started picked fights and talking shit, whereas no one bothered him when he wasn't being a dickhead.

[@hexlart8481]

@@paulsmart4672 Lets be honest he was always kind of a dickhead. Like even his non political opinions are based on kinda flimsy research and whenever someone has so much as raised mild disagreement with him he's gone on to make hour long rants about that person.

[@MasterIceyy]

Tbf to Shad, in his earlier videos where he covered Fantasy, History, Hema and Historical weaponry his personal ideals and beliefs were pretty well hidden, as someone that started following him for that kind of content, it's been really weird to see him get sucked into the culture wars nonsense. I guess it was his ego that dragged him into it too, he seems to think he is an authority on everything he does, he criticised Elden Ring's worldbuilding because he is a "writer" because he wrote a weird, creepy and boring fanfiction novel. He promoted AI art because he is apparently at a level of a "professional artist" despite his brother Jazza an actual professional artist, with one of the largest art youtube channels saying he obviously isn't. @@OK-wm2mr

[@ed6705]

​@@OK-wm2mrbefore he starte the Knights Watch thing, his videos were largely apolitical. He'd talk about castles and swords and shit and that was all dandy. No one gave a shit about his religious conservative views because he wasn't out there advertising them. Then he started harpingbon about them and got upset that people didn't like it

[@tieflingrogue]

"Girls like to be saved," followed by "I have to preapprove everything my kids watch," tells me that he forced his daughter to think that the only role a woman can play is the damsel in distress, conveniently leaving out the fact that there are many female warriors in history (not to mention an entire freaking genre of anime that disproves his implied thesis that girls don't like to be the hero).

[@bayardkyyako7427]

Shad: "Stupid bitch you WILL be a helpless little discord kitten" Even jokingly saying that is fucking troublesome.

[@zericle1]

I've seen female cops save other men's lives. I've seen those documentaries coming from Ukraine showing all those nurses stitching soldiers back up and saving their lives. When you see that kind of stuff it becomes clear that women are just as capable of saving people as men are.

[@duncan1533]

My eye can’t help but be drawn to the Wheel of Time series proudly displayed behind him. I recall a lot of the women in that series do not conform to traditional gender roles and can, at times, by quite the “girlboss”

[@nebulon1017]

Man will be amazed when Joan of Arc exists 💀

[@necrotic9433]

Marmon mfs when they hear about Julie d'Aubigny: 🤯😨

[@xxplumplumxx]

All of this is because Shad didn't initially recognize Peach's mario kart Wii outfit. I think it's precisely why his reaction is so agitated. He has been exposed as a fake gamer, the worst dishonor.

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

Not only that, he posted cringe on main

[@fakegeek5462]

I watched the review it was a 3 guys at a round table. 2 people hated Mario movie and didn't get all of the references. 1 guy did and loved it. It wasn't Shad 2-3 spent 2 hours saying how the movie sucked. Wierd that the movie didn't suck it was just a fun movie. Edit Shad said he wasn't a gamer at most he played a little bit of the NES games.

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

@Calvin I aim to please

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

He's stared into the abyss of anti-SJW politics for too long and the abyss stared back. He needs a break from political stuff and stick to his history and fentasy lessons.

[@eagleleft]

​@fakegeek5462 he also made a stupid video called:is it woke or not" anyone who unironically makes that title is a grifter and dumbass

[@coffinmyface4237]

Theres only one person willing to dress as a jester and dance in the sewer in this argument, and I'm going to trust them because they have the humility to do that.

[@FourDozenEggs]

I feel so bad for his daughter. Like, I am genuinely sad.

[@Reed5016]

Same

[@oninaru]

Yeah, that is very vile and evil thing to say about your daughter. If I ever have kid and they happen to be girl, she can be as much warrior princess as she wants.

[@dminasweater4868]

Never met a fundie that didn't abuse their kids, and his main charachter in his book is a pedo with thousands of canonical victims....

[@Reed5016]

@@dminasweater4868 I was raised in a fundie household as a lesbian. All I can say is that it wasn’t fun. There wasn’t s*xual or physical abuse, but they were shitty people. Gaslighting, emotional abuse, and backhanded compliments were very common. Especially after I came out. In fact, it stopped being passive aggressive after I came out. I also wasn’t allowed to go to therapy, unless it was counseling with their incredibly homophobic church counselor.

[@dminasweater4868]

@Reed5016 Good thing you didn't go. when I took my father up on that I was tortured with fists and pliers as a form of conversion therapy in front of the congregation. They wanted to quote "exorcise the demon's of perversion and faggotry" I was 12.

[@oshkeet]

You have to love someone complaining about the literal, apparently singular-ruling Princess of a country is acting like a 'girlboss'. Like... no, she is LITERALLY the boss.

[@cwizard]

Bowser is coming.

[@OberynTheRedViper]

If Shad lived back in the day, you KNOW he would have been the one to start the whole has sex with horses smear campaign against Catherine the Great.

[@optillian4182]

​@@cwizard I guess love really makes a guy come out of his shell.

[@devforfun5618]

and anyone who played any mario game in the last 15 years knows peach kickass, she went from olive to lola bunny

[@onepresence9460]

Exactly. She’s the leader of Mushroom Kingdom 🍄

[@TheFantasticJoe]

It blows my mind that Shad talks about the kind of stories that emotionally resonate with him and empower him yet absolutely cannot fathom that people different from him might be similarly empowered by different types of stories.

[@JackgarPrime]

He even talks about how his own daughter felt that Peach's role in the movie resonated with her emotionally.

[@SemiIocon]

Because he is conservative, he thinks only he deserves to be empowered by media and the people that are naturally beneath him shouldn't ever be. Conservatism is about worshiping a "god given" hierarchy.

[@somedudeok1451]

That's the thing with right wingers, they only want power for their own group. They think the world has a certain divine hierarchy to it, which they just happen to sit close to the top of, and they'll attack anything that they perceive as a threat to that hierarchy. Even when it's just women wearing pants.

[@nina9565]

​@@JackgarPrime That part is so wild. He's so close to understanding why representation matters but his fundamentalist indoctrination is just a little bit stronger. Hope he gets his stuff together before his daughter is old enough to realize how awful his views are.

[@henryhaile1653]

I remember he was also a big fan of rape and stuff as part of the damsel in distress scene, like defending the famous Goblin Slayer scene etc.

[@Kaosi]

"I'm a cuckhold of house gay" made me laugh so hard

[@banbanthebandit4002]

Shad basically saying that his daughter enjoying the film was “insufferable” makes me feel sick, it’s a movie for kids and he got upset that HIS CHILD would enjoy it for having a strong female character. Shad just said the quiet part out loud on that one huh (I say that as if he doesn’t say the quiet part aloud all the god damn time)

[@AmazingMrMe123]

Mormons do that a lot

[@puppable]

If shadiversity is so anti-woke howcome he doesn't change his name to sha

[@jowysw]

That name is just a letter away from "she" tho. Too woke.

[@MrRancidity]

Actually laughed at this joke. Fantastic

[@zephyr8072]

He can change his name to "No".

[@greatsword6365]

​@@zephyr8072 "No", as in "No means no"? Too woke, sorry

[@bookshelfhoney]

Shadrition maybe

[@as-valerie5717]

Must've been awkward for his brother when Shad said he prefers stories where men save random strangers they find attractive over stories where they save close family members

[@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944]

Yeah I think Jesus would hear that and then starting throwing table and swords. I love when Christians have preferences that go against their holy books. Well he is a Mormon so... He is probably unhappy because he doesn't have 6 underage wives.

[@judeduval5724]

Shad brother might feel the same about him.

[@YEY0806]

​@judeduval5724, and yet it would be justified because who honestly could stand someone like Shad?

[@Overl0rd888]

The irony of his shitty last of us take is that his fantasy novel's protagonist is a "reformed" rapist war lord

[@blackknightjack3850]

Lemme guess: Shad's the sort of person who thinks he's super smart because he's heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh before.

[@jojorose1947]

And like the sad thing is there are good ways to do basically any character you can imagine, there's good stories to be told of someone that did atrocities and wants to make the world better, but they need to be written by someone that knows anything about sociology, mental health, morality/ethics etc.

[@scheikundeiscool4086]

@@jojorose1947 Hell you can have a good strorie about someone that did only good things but now want to make the world worse or annything in between the trick is beeing a good story

[@leichtmeister]

Most ironic: His protagonist is an ABSOLUTE Mary Sue. Of the worst kind.

[@luccaladinig2783]

​@@jojorose1947I mean, "warlord who did atrocities but now wants to atone/do good" is basically Xena's backstory - it's not just possible, it ~has~ been done before.

[@paulsmart4672]

Shad's talking about how little girls don't have power fantasies or heroic fantasies and I'm like "Fuck, has this guy ever talked to a kid?" Shad: "My daughter..." Me: That's dark.

[@paulsmart4672]

I left this comment and the one about Mary Sues before I finished the video. Both situations got worse.

[@iandegiovani4703]

That's the point. He doesn't. It's the traditional values he follows. Throw the kid to the woman and open a beer.

[@vaiyt]

The way he talks about hisdaughter, she probably earned very early on to nt share her fantasies with him, because he dismisses or ignores them

[@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736]

Poor lady

[@thrownstair]

A man in a knight outfit mad that the princess doesn’t need to be rescued. Truly, poetry in motion.

[@amberwingtundrawing776]

I literally just saw the movie she does get rescued so I'm really confused? She was like tied to train tracks or anything but he stopped her home from getting destroyed, I feel like thats a rescue

[@LvLupXD]

This knight guy is the kind of dude Cervantes wrote about

[@lettersnstuff]

I mean, shrek 2 was like 20 years ago, kinda weird to still be mad but ok

[@tenchimuyo69]

Well if he loses this duel, he can always just say "it was just a bit!"

[@spamquisition4046]

A shitty knight outfit mind you, most historical stuff people really doesn't like Shad lol

[@fritzophrenia3146]

Imagine being a grown man, slapping a table and going "Holy crap this is fricking going woke?" in a shocked and appalled tone and not having some serious doubts about where your life has gone

[@k-master973]

I luckily got off the train when he said on-camera that he was a Mormon. There has been some sus comments here and there in his videos, but that realization made me go “oh, so he’s probably a very deep conservative with those views. I think I’m getting off at this stop” Like a month after I stopped watching him, he kept saying his views more and more until he became known as that “conservative knight KZbinr”

[@Eat_shit--die_mad]

Honestly it changed woke to racist and I think this is a perfectly adequate form of outrage

[@sobertillnoon]

Then imagine acting like it would be bad for you to say that.

[@sobertillnoon]

​@@Eat_shit--die_mad yes, but being woke is understanding and recognizing systemic racism. So like, it isn't the same thing as being racist even a little. "Murder is great" change murder to ice cream and I'd agree with that statement. You see how that doesn't make sense?

[@onepresence9460]

I used to like Shad before, but i stopped following him when he started pandering so much to the Anti-SJW, far right-wing. Everything seems woke to him nowadays, Princess Beach being a new example.

[@IBTL1]

What’s funny to me about him constantly referencing Mario as “traditional male hero” is that he’s not lol. Mario’s usually is depicted as fairly short and round, has a higher pitch voice, and has the traditional male role of……plumber lol. The only real “traditional” aspect to him is that he saves a princess and even then him saving her is not reflective of him being a male. Like he’s so consumed by the fact he just wants woman to be submissive to a male role that he’s getting angry over nothing

[@cousinted]

Look, the way Mario runs around holding his bum and shouting "OWOWOW!" when he falls in lava is a very traditional trait of the hero archetype in western society. I think that's actually part of the hero's journey...

[@achehex]

Good thing he doesn't actually play the games, or he would've had an actual seizure seeing the wedding dress outfit in Mario Odyssey.

[@PineNeedle-Supreme]

@@achehex He wouldve died if he saw Luigi's supportive response to said wedding dress outfit

[@RandomComicEnjoyer]

Depends on the game you speak on, a traditional male hero acted very much just like Mario in a lot of contexts, it just depends on what our interpretation of a “traditional male hero” is

[@rogirek3362]

Fairly short and round... higher pitched voice... Nah, that's definitely traditional. When Shad imagines a hero, it definitely looks like him- I MEAN THAT! Definitely looks like _that._

[@knotsbygordion]

Remember, this Mr Brooks is the author of a 500 page novel that espouses the opinion that victims of "sexual assault" will come to appreciate the event if they are forced to bear the resulting children because they are so attached to those children. LIKE IT IS A LOGICAL AND DECENT POSITION.

[@leichtmeister]

Mormon doing mormon stuff. Also, said rapist in the book the definition of a Mary Sue character.

[@stalfithrildi5366]

"Why do we have castles?" To... impose authority upon the Welsh?

[@aralornwolf3140]

Well... I think it was "So Welsh could remain free from the English Yoke"... but it didn't work out well for them...

[@extrams0]

@@aralornwolf3140 one man's castle is another man's ... caslte, I guess ...

[@intelli-gent9863]

This is hilarious 😂

[@DKdrop]

@@aralornwolf3140 It was both. Edward I famously built a bunch of castles to impose English rule and help his conquest, but the Welsh also built some to try and defend.

[@fromthebackseat4865]

It’s hilarious how like, 4 years ago, these people were complaining about SJW’s being offended over “every little thing-“ and now here they are going apoplectic about sneakers on an M&M and a literal princess being a “girl boss.”

[@mikaelste-marie1275]

They were always offended. They are projecting

[@onepresence9460]

How the tables have turned...

[@joearnold6881]

It has _always_ been projection

[@Talking_Ed]

Yeah it's normal people complaining about SJW, woke culture, the left, the LGBTQ+, they're just far right leaning people hiding in plain view it's kinda awful

[@sumanoskae]

It is a narcissistic, naval gazing way of engaging with culture: they treat everything like it was made to insult them specifically.

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

In Shad's book the main character's rape victims step forward and say they were fine with it because they got babies. So there's that.

[@Waterseeker_]

WHAT

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

@@Waterseeker_ The main character is like Hitler\Napoleon who won and had a redemption arc.

[@Peasham]

He has the capacity to write a book?

[@VelaiciaCreator]

And here I thought it might be worth even a pirated read but damn...

[@justaghostinthesea]

I really, really want Dominic Noble to read that book and tear Shad a new asshole

[@maxibo-nf5jg]

The fucking moment Shad is saying "Hoes before Bros", because the man would save the princess before his brother gives me the feeling, that he will be pissed if a friend cancels game night because he is having a date with his girlfriend.

[@YEY0806]

Is it just me, but Shad gives me the impression that he would unironically call a women a "wenche" just for doing anything that inconvenienced him

[@leichtmeister]

I mean Shad gets outclassed by his brother Jazza in every way and seems very bitter about it.

[@Lambda_Ovine]

You gotta love the reactionary logic of "just because I'm ideologically invested on conservative ideas that are sexist and homophobic to the point I declare they are the natural state of the universe, it does not mean that I'm a misogynist and and a homophobe, and if you call me that, you're the ideological one and the one with a political agenda"

[@swordigosung994]

The thought of "nature state of everything" really got to fuck off. Even if there is such a thing, there is no way we puny human beings could have known it. Treating your own ideology as absolute truth is a form of upmost hubris.

[@swordigosung994]

The thought of "nature state of everything" really got to go. Even if there is such a thing, there is no way we puny human beings could have known it. Treating your own ideology as absolute truth is a form of upmost hubris.

[@drmntpibb]

ppl not hear the words coming put of their own mouth

[@beebs4283]

@@swordigosung994 we have manipulated our environments so thoroughly that i guarantee the vast majority of people crying over things just not being natural can’t recognize the fact that pretty much all the fruits and vegetables we eat look nothing like the wild forms of them once found in nature. no sir, those are god’s corncobs, he totally made them that way

[@ThatOneGuy0006]

​@swordigo sung that's what happens when church and politics not only mingle but fuse together. Christianity and conservatism have been mixed together so thoroughly that it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins.

[@Sheepyhead]

me, a sword guy, when i see a women wearing a pants 😡😡😡

[@b.parker1740]

History buffs when the princess of a land of mushroom people wears a skintight racing uniform and not a pink dress out of a Disney Princess movie (It's not Historically Accurate) (Woke Illumination/Nintendo Gone Too Far). (Imagine if Shad gave a half of a shit he's giving about this nontroversy about a kids film over Nintendo trying to legally body modding streamers for gameplay footage they should, hypothetically, be allowed to stream in the era of Twitch and You-Tube gaming. Ridiculous).

[@zephyr8072]

I wonder if Shad hates Mario Odyssey for this too. "Pauline used to wear a dress but NOW she has pants and a suit like a MAN! Women wearing suits part of the western woke agenda! Wait the game was made where?"

[@streamerssaymyname]

Sexist men are of two minds: "Women can't ever NOT be sexualizing themselves, look at them possessing buttocks while wearing pants." And "Women wearing pants are trying to be men and is very not sexy."

[@musicman24X]

As a sword guy, sword guys give sword guys such a bad goddamn name.

[@ogedeh]

🚽💪

[@hungryhedgehog4201]

"girls love to be saved, this is true" unlike boys who love dying alone. Pretty sure this guy is a father, I feel bad for that kid.

[@Kingcrimson_1456]

He is

[@bigmcdick4916]

Gets worse, pretty sure he has a daughter. Guess there won’t be any pants being bought in the Brooks household

[@hawkshot867]

Kids - he has 5. Mormons, man. Feel bad for his wife, too.

[@YEY0806]

​@@hawkshot867 I doubt that any of those 5 times were consenual

[@RainShadow-yi3xr]

@@YEY0806That's a pretty serious accusation, be careful with those

[@ARDIZsq]

Shad: "That is not the actions of a good person." Someone should have told him that about his book characters...

[@bobbybooshay5388]

The irony of the guy who said Anita Sarkeesian was easily offended by boob armor getting easily offended by Peach wearing pants. So thick you could cut it with a knife and serve it for dinner.

[@swiftsteve8774]

He is so blind to his own hypocrisy ha can't see it even if it is in front of his nose.

[@marocat4749]

To be air boob armor is fairly offensive i dudes et redicilous armor, i they get that get wild with everyone.

[@Zectifin]

@@marocat4749 give boob armor to everyone.

[@msjkramey]

Omg that is hilarious

[@Hawkatana]

You don't want to serve it for dinner, that shit has more salt than the dead sea.

[@Mewobiba]

"I'm a cuckold of House Gay" why did that make me chuckle so much. Excellent delivery.

[@Andythecreature]

04:08 for anyone who, like me, missed it 🤣

[@mauirandall8176]

I chuckled ...Of the house gay

[@ethanrabbitts9906]

God, him calling peach more masculine is such a mask off moment where he seemingly views the concepts of autonomy and competency as exclusive to men.

[@TheUnsightlyRF]

Wait, he got triggered over Peach wearing the same outfit she's worn in countless Mario Kart games in the past? I know it's a long-worn meme to point out how these grifters don't actually know or care about the things they focus on, but come on...

[@n00dle69]

it’s DOUBLE funny because it’s like, in the strikers game she wears protective gear, because she’s playing soccer. and post playing Mario odyssey she dresses up in a whole host of fun outfits (that even have pants! or, shorts anyway) + ALSO also in her new game, she’s shown in a bunch of different clothes depending on what power up/scenario she’s doing.

[@viridianacortes9642]

Shadiverse truly believes the whole knight saving the princess from a dragon is the only story that exists. Doesn’t he?

[@kayakat1869]

The interesting thing is that these stories were some of the first instances of coppaganda. In those days, especially before they had the codes of chivalry, knights would go out and rape women all the time. They came up with these stories, so that they would look better in the eyes of the public. So yeah, it's just awful.

[@rustnok12]

😂

[@pantalaemon]

helps explain why he's so phobic of literally every other story huh

[@vksasdgaming9472]

I wonder what he might think about story in which dragon saves a knight from princess.

[@SkilletTRO]

​@@vksasdgaming9472the dragon is Andrew Tate saving him from Twitch girls

[@coleray1413]

The moment when Shad starts talking about how "some girls like to be saved" and both his co-hosts laugh at him is golden

[@dumbumbumbum8649]

I have no idea what their personal opinions are, but just by looking at them they seem to constantly be in disbelief at him. Like, ‘oh my god, this is my boss.’ I know they verbally agree with him sometimes, but they give me strong sucking-up-to-stay-employed vibes.

[@kayakat1869]

I mean, maybe as a kink kind of thing, but I don't want to be just passed around as a prize for men. In what situation irl does he think a knight saving a damsel would actually be applicable? Maybe in some disaster situation, but all genders need to be saved and all genders can do the saving. If there was a flood in his town and a woman on a boat can to his house to save him, would he turn her down??? Very odd.

[@unrighteous8745]

"The core of the Mario story is the damsel in distress. ... Most guys, especially young boys and everything like that, they're more interested in saving the pretty princess." So, I am "most guys," and the first time I played SMB when I was a kid, I had finally beaten bowser for the first time, and was greeted by Toad saying the princess was in another castle. My reaction was: "What princess? There's a princess? Why do I care?" The reality is that if a game is fun, the story really doesn't matter. In film, not every story needs to play out exactly the same way; that would be boring. You can have movies where the hero saves the princess and they may be good or bad, and you can have movies that do other things too.

[@mikestrauss8613]

I really liked Mario 2 where Peach is a playable character.

[@yungmuney5903]

That's the thing, no one actually goes through the games for Peach, she's just a glorified flagpole/star so the conformity is asinine. Its just the fetishiziation of mainting tradition/status that goes far beyond Mario.

[@leichtmeister]

SMB is not the original Mario story. That's Donkey Kong, in which the female character (I believe her name wasn't Peach at that time) is a damsel in distress only there to be rescued by the player after she gets kidnapped by DK at the start of the game.

[@unrighteous8745]

@@leichtmeister Never said it was, it's just the one I played as a kid.

[@TacticalOtter2]

I just can't get over the fact that he's an elderly Australian Mormon man larping as like a medieval history expert

[@RitzOriginal1]

How is he elderly....? Hes in his late 30s.

[@xXEGPXx]

@@RitzOriginal1 In the youtube game approaching 40 does make you an elder

[@alburt02t]

"If my daughter were to be like Peach, doing her own heroic things, she would be INSUFFERABLE". -Absolutely a horrible person and father.

[@vetreas366]

Weirdest part is that with his medieval build proclivities I can believe he has a castle tower somewhere where he can lock his daughter up if she dares do something heroic like save a life, be a nice person or wear pants. That or ground her until a prince came to rescue her or some daft shit like that.

[@gayanudugampola8973]

Bro is literally an evil king.

[@vazzaroth]

Reminds me of when my dad, recently on a trip, was musing about the 9 yr old nephew (my cousin) back at home and complaining about his behavior being so annoying all of the time. My mom was like "well we love him" and my dad was like "Hmmm... yea... Maybe" and we pushed on it and he admitted to not loving him because he's annoying some of the time. Like wow dad, REALLY makes me feel so good about how I used to act just like this kid. But I guess I didn't have to guess much, since you yelled at me then too. These self-styled 'patriarchs' who claim that tough love even exists have just found a deluded way to ride along with the rest of society all the while poisoning the well and throwing a baby-fit whenever someone notices their grift. Sorry you have to live on this planet with other sapient, independently decision making, different values and beliefs and personality having people. That's kinda the entire point of being spawned on this server to begin with, tho. Not trying to get a high score before the wipe and F everyone else.

[@andiralosh2173]

Perhaps a traditional male hero plumber will take him to task

[@Dookieman1975]

Really living up to knighthood. Fits the medieval time standard

[@jowysw]

"Mario nails it because of his natural ability"? I want to remind people that if a woman had a "natural ability" to do something really well, she'd probably be called a Mary Sue by them. Peach was living in the Mushroom Kingdom for years and Mario was new there, of course she had more experience. The whole point of her is that she is Mario's guide and the adventure is one where both have to watch each other backs and defeat Bowser and there is nothing wrong with that.

[@zericle1]

Exactly, and it's shown that Mario has to learn a lot to get used to the new world he's in. What's ironic too is that in the final confrontation in the movie, Mario and Luigi are the ones who take down Bowser and Peach literally says that they're heroes. They literally save Peach from Bowser. But Mario wouldn't have gotten to where he did without Peach. In my opinion, watching the movie I felt like the obvious main character was Mario, and Peach seemed like a major supporting character, so I don't get why some people were so pissed off. Like, Mario is still the main character and nothing's really changed that much aside from Peach getting more characterization, which I believe is a good thing.

[@lilbost4]

Shadiversity, Mary Sue critic. Also writer of the biggest self insert Mary Sue I've ever seen.

[@crazyscotsman9327]

Exactly!

[@mikestrauss8613]

I haven't read his novels. In part because every time he discussed world building and writing it turned me more and more off the idea. Then I found out he's a chud.

[@painovoimaton]

I hope the rape part is not a self insert

[@Enyavar1]

@@painovoimaton or the "kill the family" part. This man.

[@WeesloYT]

The funny thing is that my daughter’s favorite character in the movie is…Luigi. A male character. Shad’s head would explode

[@nina9565]

Conservatives: gender roles are biological, we're made this way for a reason. Also conservatives: we need to constantly reafirm gender roles so people don't move away from said roles.

[@LadyLuck-rd5vi]

Almost like they know they're wrong and are trying, actively, to suppress education and voting rights by just putting up this barricade of noise (not the avg. person. I'm certain Shad has no idea that he's a useful idiot for the right) but politicians absolutely know.

[@eagleleft]

Why is she wearing pants? REEEE gurboss woke REEEE

[@DocAcher]

Exactly!! 😂

[@orukarm]

If it’s biological, then why do we seem to biologically move away from them? 😎

[@sebastianb.3978]

@@orukarm Congratulations, you got the punchline.

[@ColeYote]

"No-one ever had an issue with the fact that I was a religious conservative, but now we have Knights Watch, where I'm more vocal about my beliefs: suddenly people DO have an issue with it" Yeah, funny how people have more of a problem with your beliefs when they, y'know, actually know what your beliefs are

[@aetriandimitri190]

Yeah its almost like he seems like a fun chill guy till he revealed he was a hateful fear mongering bigot that got peoples opinions to change, such a mystery

[@fakegeek5462]

I'm republican and agree on his belifs he presents him self like idiot that its pure cringe. Also dude make react vids trying to get popular from there stupid podcast. Dude knows his stuff when it comes to ancient times. But when it comes to pop culture he is just a idiot who makes republicans like me look stupid.

[@k-master973]

Yeah I used to binge-watch his videos and he would say something sus occasionally, but I didn’t pay much attention to it because - in the videos I watched at least - he kept his political opinions at a minimum. It was when he said he’s Mormon in a video is when I realized that he’s probably alt-right and I decided to stop watching because I wasn’t comfortable with Lo and behold like two months after I stopped watching he started getting more and more political in Knight’s Watch and I realized I dodged a bullet

[@aetriandimitri190]

@@k-master973 yeah, it's like when a person casually says something racist and you're like "... Are they actually racist or am I seeing things, nah probably not, they seem fun and chill". Like I thought maybe he wasn't exactly hateful towards LGBT, just didn't understand it or participate. Then the light-year video came out and was clearly not the case. Then the Mario video came out and was clear he was also just extremely sexist to the point the others even tried to cut off his topics since they were just THAT bad

[@yokaipinata1416]

​@@k-master973For me, the first red flag that really gave me pause was his use of the R-word (which by that point in time should already have been common knowledge that it's an ableist slur, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he really didn't know) in one of his videos about the nunchaku. (I see from this response video that he still uses it, which is unsurprising). But it wasn't until his He-Man video, where he insisted on a need to instill traditional gender roles and disparaged discourse around oppression as 'an excuse for failure', that I realized he was reactionary/conservative, went away and never looked back.

[@cadejackson8665]

it’s funny that he is a champion of meritocracy but a big reason for his success is that his brother shouted him out and collaborated with him

[@YEY0806]

I always find it ironically amusing when merit advocates are actually the LEAST meritorious people I ever know.

[@Enyavar1]

Didn't know about that yet, good to know!

[@ajmoore9758]

You know Shad is the problem when he assumes all femme folks "want to saved"

[@chelscara]

It’s the only way he could get a wife. Not to be rude to her, though I know it’s gonna come out that way, but there’s no way a woman with standards, self esteem, or belief in her own worth would choose this guy. She needed saving, he saved her (from what who knows, meh family, bad mental health, a horrible experience), and he knows he not have her otherwise and neither would his incel-esque friends. And you can’t change the world without forcing babies into it that vote your way.

[@samkeiser9776]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@chelscaraI feel it’s important to not view alt right women as caricatures, of people with zero sense who are self-sabotaging out of sheer ignorance. Because while on some metrics I think there’s some truth to that, people don’t believe these ideas out of pure self-sabotage. There’s a appeal to the ideology to women, just like there is one for men, and I’m not going to pretend that I understand what that appeal is, even in general terms, but I do think it’s important to acknowledge that that’s the case. Personally I don’t think anyone wins under alt-right ideals, men or women, so it’s really not actually that surprising when someone who has every reason to hate the ideology doesn’t.

[@Malon2006]

I feel like men like Shad don't understand why a lot of young girls want to be princesses. It's not because they want to be helpless and stuck in a tower. It's more about being rich enough to afford all these nice clothes and having a certain amount of authority and power. Even the being saved element has a bit this in it because a princess is important enough to be defended against harm more than a peasant woman. It is a feminine appropriate power fantasy in a world were other power fantasies for girls are looked down on and not allowed. Young girls do not want to be princesses solely to be the helpless damsel to make boys feel like heroes. They want to be princesses because they want to be rich and important. The pretty dresses are part of the being rich part. Edit: I noticed I typed out feminism because of auto correct when I meant feminine. It is fixed now.

[@janetestherina7169]

yeah, that makes sense. no one wants to be helpless and just treated as an accessory in someone else's story, but most of us want to be important and have power

[@vazzaroth]

Yep he/them cannot see the perspective differing from their own, the female side of the knight and princess dynamic. They confuse their perspective for hers, thinking her desire begins and ends at the saving, when for women it extends into the "being valued" just as the knight side isn't about the slaying of the dragon, it's REALLY about the glory and admiration/value afterwards. In both ways, they are stopping their analysis early and confusing the act for the accomplishment. (Which I theorize means they are still "questing" for the act, and have not lived the glory of accomplishment. Kind of sad but also not really their fault that their conservative culture set them up to seek a value that is so outdated, opportunities to enact that value are incredibly rare. Plus the patriarchal society assumptions that only certain, "worthy" men get to DO the act, and therefore the act itself is rarified as is the reward they all worship. It's literally the opposite of an egalitarian worldview, trying to withhold and throttle universal happiness + peace to dole it out only for "good boy" behaviour. These men (and women) are starved then thrown a scrap and told it's a feast, and they have to thank their abusers for the privilege. Extremely disheartening that they haven't realized they are being abused and instead dream of being the abuser. This is what we get when we worship the heros journey and totally disregard the following arcs of the king and mage, not to mention freezing women in the flat Maiden arc forever.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

As someone who loves princesses, YES! You hit the nail on the head!

[@DocAcher]

The ultimate fantasy for women? Personal agency.

[@starmaker75]

To me it seems the princess fantasy comes from more for being safe and having power than wanting to be saved.

[@bobdolesrevenge]

Sitting through a two hour Shadiversity rant must feel like the modern equivalent of surviving a siege.

[@mp5enthusiast]

I still have flashbacks when I hear the word "woke"

[@0lionheart]

got a physical lol out of me for that one, bravo

[@StarryxNight5]

Less a siege and more just being on a patrol and having some dude constantly chucking pebbles at you. They rarely hit, and even when they do they don't hurt very much, but goddamn is it grating. You have two hours left on your shift, and you just have to endure this

[@samuelburton302]

Shad is so worked up about all of this because the "woke" crowd is ruining his fantasies of being a "naturally gifted, doesn't need a powerup" hero because it is the opposite of what he is in real life. He's powerless in reality and now is powerless in his fantasies

[@OpEditorial]

Shad is ironic in how he's an overweight suburban dad from Australia who wishes he was a medieval English knight and is clearly suffering from *St. George in Retirement Syndrome*

[@RedHandedGod]

The worst part of the entire thing is Shad talking about how he really connects with the hero character that's a father willing to sacrifice for his children. Like, Shad is entirely bankrupt of that form of heroism. He won't even protect his own daughter from his own misogyny and bigotry. If he's so moved by the idea of fathers sacrificing for their children, he should start by sacrificing his own pride and trying to be a better person. For them. Poor kids.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

What are you even talking about? This guy was a Better father than what most Liberals ever had.

[@nexthoudini]

​@@silverhawkscape2677 Yeah! You tell 'em the evils of loving, accepting, and supporting your children! (though I might not have Capitalized enough Random nouns and adjectives for you to understand).

[@nuuttik]

he 100% thinks he is the hero here, saving his daughter from the evils of wokeness 😬 he would have to upend his whole world view to even begin to see it as bigoted...

[@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944]

​​@@silverhawkscape2677As someone who was raised by extremely Christian conservative parent I must say you are full of it. God, what I would give for having liberal or left-wing dad. Did you have conservative daddy that brainwashed you or did your liberal daddy disown you after you shared your f*ed up opinions with him?

[@sporeham1674]

​@@silverhawkscape2677funny thing, since he's Australian, liberal is right leaning. So you're right!!

[@joshuathemememan8425]

"most guys would rather save the pretty princess than the brother" Mans must have been a single child, I've always protected my younger siblings when they were in danger like the vicious bullying my middle sibling got all through highschool. Skipped dates and flings specifically to protect my siblings at every turn lmao

[@TripleS-034]

He has at least one brother who I guess he wouldn't save if it was a choice between him & a pretty woman

[@joshuathemememan8425]

@@TripleS-034 tbh that is even worse lmao

[@JackgarPrime]

Yeah isn't it more emotionally resonant that someone would be willing to risk their life for their sibling who they've loved all their lives than some noblewoman who they've never even heard of before, let alone met or had any sort of relationship with?

[@alaskarii007]

@@joshuathemememan8425 oh it's worse, I think he mentioned he was adopted.

[@martianscienceenthusiast]

Important note: His brother is popular KZbinr draw with jazza

[@dminasweater4868]

Dude also wrote a story where the main charachter is a mass pedophile rapist who falls in love with one of his child victims years later and in a different body seduces her...just saying it's kind of a trip to see. He justifies it all the way through between bouts of manipulative self shaming like a youtuber apology

[@eldritchumbra9834]

he what

[@dminasweater4868]

@eldritchumbra9834 look up his book shadow of the conquerer. Its his self published creep nightmare

[@KeDe1606]

It seems Shad just likes the *optics* of a redemption story, but not the actual substance. He likes the idea of the story where a total monster gets a second chance at life and makes up for all the terrible things he did. But what he actually wants is a cookie-cutter male power-fantasy, where the tragic, misunderstood hero gets to prove just how good he is by defeating the evil guys in super duper cool ways. That’s why he and his story always tend to bend over backwards in order to justify all the abhorrent bs that character did and is still doing (like when all of the character‘s r-word victims basically said „no, you don’t get it, we’re glad that he r-worded us!“)

[@MiraBoo]

Since Peach’s inception, she has been portrayed as both a damsel in distress and a capable heroine. She’s alway been sweet, but tough. Her femininity rivals her strength. The first damsel wasn’t even Peach, it was the beautiful lady Pauline. Quite frankly, Peach’s portrayal in the Mario Movie aligns well the games (both mainline and spinoffs), comics, two cartoons, and the old anime film. Anyone who looks at the Mario Movie and thinks “ew, Peach looks like a ‘woke girlboss’ trope instead of a pathetic princess” doesn’t understand who Peach is, and has always been, as a character. Also, yeah, the “girlboss” trope can sometimes suck and isn’t always good/positive female representation, but it’s not inherently bad/negative either. It’s all about the execution.

[@tommylakindasorta3068]

Apparently, the gambeson and chainmail is to protect Shad's ultra-thin skin.

[@arglebargle23fnord]

It's not even chainmail in the indoor Knightwatch segments, it's a hoodie with a chainmail print.

[@ealusaid]

masterful burn

[@stalfithrildi5366]

"Mario is a very traditional story" Boy meets girl. Girls gets kidnapped by gorilla. Girl is held hostage by gorilla. Custody is transferred to a reptile somehow don't ask. Girl is in another castle. Boy rescues girl.

[@anenemystand5582]

You forget boy meets toad.

[@illiaflannery7312]

wait I thought DK had Pauline and Bowser was with Peach. so girl held hostage by gorilla. boy meet other girl. other girl abducted by reptile, don't think too hard. boy rescues girl

[@SymbioteMullet]

​@@illiaflannery7312and then they go cart racing

[@CitBox]

Don't forget Boy cages gorilla and tries to kill gorilla's child

[@johnathonharker266]

Boy and Girl have brief aside to battle to the death alongside characters from other stories without permanent consequences or heavy narrative stakes

[@lulagoodwin5372]

Why do they always misuse the term "mary-sue". Like just because a girl character isn't a useless pushover doesn't make her a mary sue. It's completely ironic how this guy literally wrote a mary sue character in his first book like holy shit.

[@judeduval5724]

He wrote a Gary Stu.

[@RelativelyBest]

Well, most people use that term wrong. It's actually a very specific form of bad writing characterized by authors developing deeply unhealthy attitudes towards their characters due to using them as coping mechanisms. Usually when people try explain what a Mary Sue is they just end up describing individual symptoms, not the considerably more troubling underlying problem. Now, I haven't read Shad's book and I don't plan to, but from what I've heard it may actually be a legit case. It sure sounds like some hardcore old school Mary Sueing. Also, Jude: "Gary Stu" in an entirely superfluous term invented by people who were, for some reason, apparently uncomfortable using a female name for a phenomenon that has nothing to do with the gender of the character. There's really no important distinction between a male and female Mary Sue, so the latter does not need it's own special label. At the very least, they're interchangeable.

[@yungmuney5903]

Due to the idea of being over idealized defaulted to female (cause idk men are already the ideal?), its being weaponized by chuds to attack any women that doesn't conform to regressive roles.

[@JimRFF]

Woke political propaganda: "Women should be something more than just sex objects" Noble knight Sir Shad: "No they shouldn't" *big trumpets for big man, wow so heroic*

[@Prnnce]

It is so heartbreaking to see this kind of parent so pathologically terrified that their child might deviate from their exact prescribed notion of what they should be that they entirely bar them from certain media and get frustrated when they see themselves positively represented and draw joy and entertainment from it. Purely broken on a fundamental level that you see your daughter react with joy and awe but you're so blinded by your biases that you're upset at your own child's joy.

[@andrewdiaz3529]

I worry for her, just as I worry for any of his sons that might fail to meet his standards of manhood

[@jonathanmarth6426]

For a guy talking about the joys of fatherhood it's going to be really heartbreaking when his adult kids stop showing up to family holidays cause they don't want to listen to his takes on the female heroes in Marvel wave 12.

[@onepresence9460]

Heartbreaking indeed. I hope Shad’s children will be alright.

[@scarymonsterzz]

I grew up with a dad like that. Yeah we don't talk anymore.

[@coatimundi69]

not done with the video so idk if its mentioned, but its especially gross that he insists that mario should be the MOST hero and should save peach and NOT the other way around because his sons would love it and hes "sure his daughter would like it just as much". like her enjoyment is an afterthought and his sons should enjoy it the most

[@FluxChanneler]

Luigi's Mansion is literally about Luigi saving Mario, who is in distress.

[@namjoonssexybrain1679]

Breaking news: Shad is in fact a fake fan and even worse a fake gamer.

[@masterpink6963]

KZbin Reviewer: “That’s Woke” Me: “you keep saying that word I don’t think means what you think it means”

[@CoyoteSeven]

To be "anti woke" is to be "pro sleep". He wants you turn your brain off and keep your eyes and ears closed to reality 'cause that's the only way you're gonna be able to believe that schlock.

[@squidfromtheloft7894]

At this rate, "Woke" gets used so often that most don't really know what it means anymore.

[@vksasdgaming9472]

If it is not past tense of verb "wake" it has no meaning. It is not an adjective.

[@masterpink6963]

@@vksasdgaming9472 well yes but actually no

[@vksasdgaming9472]

@@masterpink6963 It has "meaning" so vague it has no real meaning. "Cool" has two clear meanings as adjective and one as verb. Everything can be said to be woke.

[@benjrc3611]

I actually think it’s WILD that he responds to your video with Wheel of Time, Mistborn and Stormlight Archive on the shelf behind him. Has he not read those books!? Every one of those series has girl boss characters and they ALL where pants!!!

[@danscantland8066]

The weirdest part is that the scene he had a part in in Stormlight is about a knight who is surrounded by powerful women, and embraces it

[@Cheskaz]

I'm genuinely so salty that he has all the cool hard cover Sanderson books...

[@lankinmoon]

Invincible is full of women wearing pants and also has a gay couple

[@atreides213]

One of the main antagonists of the second mistborn book is a creepy incel who tries to use gaslighting and emotional manipulation to isolate Vin from her friends and have her for himself, whom she stabs in the neck as the culmination of her arc, symbolically rejecting the environment of abuse and toxicity she grew up in. Her boyfriend spends the first 2/3 of the series basically being the damsel in distress she must protect. When the god of destruction who wants to end the world appears to her, he literally takes the form of her abusive, domineering older brother. It really is just bizarre how Shad could unironically enjoy Sanderson's work with his worldview.

[@leichtmeister]

​@@atreides213 I mean...Sanderson is a fellow mormon.

[@OneFaintingRobinOld]

I love the idea that 'Mario saves the princess' as a core story is this deep, important story as if Shigeru Miyamoto hasn't gone on record saying that the framing story was entirely unimportant and the reason he used almost the exact same framing in The Legend of Zelda was BECAUSE it wasn't important and was always just an easy excuse to get to the gameplay.

[@TheBronzeDog]

Appropriately named TV Tropes entry: Excuse plot. The whole point is that it's a flimsy excuse for the action to be happening. Might as well be talking about the wonderful writing of your typical "aliens invaded and now you have to shoot them down with your spaceship" game.

[@OneFaintingRobinOld]

@@TheBronzeDog That idea makes me a little disappointed that the environment that brought us the 'Battleship' movie didn't bring a gritty Michael Bay-style 'Space Invaders' movie. It would have been terrible, but it would have been great.

[@TheBronzeDog]

@@OneFaintingRobinOld Never saw Battleship, but it's so perfect an analogy from what I've heard.

[@autobotstarscream765]

And then Zelda exploded into having actual stories, so Uncle Shug dug his heels in and fought people like Yoshiaki Koizumi bringing story into Mario.

[@deddrz2549]

​@@autobotstarscream765yah, we pretty much have koizumi to thank for adding story but by bit into the series, sometimes in direct opposition to what miamoto wanted lol

[@julphines]

"This guy pointed out my irrational anger over a female video game character wearing pants and now I'm must call him a scumbag and evil and vile because I care about truth and decency." Bro what

[@pappanalab]

He criticizes his daughter for liking Peach who he considers a “Mary Sue” completely oblivious to his own book which has the exact problems he accuses Peach of. His main character is also an over powered Gary Stu! He has no room to act like liking a Mary sue or power fantasy is bad (it’s not ) while also writing them! Are Mary sues good writing? Not really. But a story doesn’t have to be well written for someone to shamelessly enjoy it

[@samkeiser9776]

I’m of the opinion that “Mary Sue’s” aren’t a character trope as much as they are an effect that a story has when one character is transparently the only character that matters. Like in “Into the Spiderverse” the alternate spider-mans are all incredibly competent, badasses who likely could destroy the collider on their own, like peter A was going to before Miles came into the picture, yet that’s fine actually, because the story is fleshed out. Characters existing and being competent with no explanation isn’t a flaw in story telling, it’d be worse if the spiderverse spider-mans all had to show arcs of themselves growing into their own roles to justify their competence when it’d just re-tread a lot of what Miles was currently going through. These “woke media” right winger bros are just mad that a woman is the competent one and that Mario has to go through an arc (I assume, I’ve never seen the mario movie.) So like, yeah, Princess Peach can just be competent and that’s not a flaw at all as long as the movie is still competent.

[@lostsanityreturned]

Just wait for his sequel, where he slaves over ai prompts.

[@fluidthought42]

​@@samkeiser9776 I think Mary Sues are more of a failure to be both interesting and believable, primarily as a consequence of a failed attempt to be more interesting. They're failed power fantasies fail to have any appeal. Can't have interest without stakes or real conflict, can't be emotionally believable when there's nothing to hold onto in terms of character flaws or growth. Normally a writer can get away with failing one or the other of the qualities in a character or story, but failing both makes a synergy of unenjoyable. Take religious or mythological figures, for interest. Typically they aren't believable in the least, and sometimes the universe does revolve around them. But they're interesting in their context of myth, legend and faith, along with cultural and moral interpretation. So It not that a character can't be impossibly powerful or unbelievably important, it's that they have to have a very strong basis for being interesting despite these qualities to work as a character.

[@pappanalab]

@@samkeiser9776 I think you’re thinking of flat arc characters. Flat arc can be used to great effect like Princess Peach. The issue with Mary Sues are that they usually forsake the internal consistency of the story and bend the universe around the Sue, unfortunately breaking immersion in the process.

[@samkeiser9776]

@@pappanalab yeah, but my point is really that “mary sue’s” aren’t a character trope, because a character can have all the stereotypical qualities of a “mary sue.” (Extremely powerful, really important, well liked, significant lineage, other quirks etc.) and still not ruin a story. Some definitions of the mary sue trope have to do with the superficial qualities of the character themselves, rather than how they’re just, in poorly written stories. And when you define mary sues like that, it’s not actually helpful to anyone because it doesn’t really mean anything.

[@cowboybarbaryn1302]

The fuckin “what do you think tiny wizard?” Absolutely killed me lmaoooo

[@nathanrohde3292]

Traditional male hero. Every child remembers watching poor Mario dying hundreds, if not thousands of times by their own hands.

[@justaghostinthesea]

This is such an amazing comment

[@neoqwerty]

this comment played like SIX different death jingles in the weirdest flashback I've had yet. I was so bad at platforming.

[@pantalaemon]

Ah but you see dying horribly is what traditional male heroes do have you never watched a war movie almost like the function of traditional male gender norms is to condition men to unquestioningly eat shit and die when some rich asshole commands them to

[@JJ-qo7th]

Don't forget all of the times he betrayed his dinosaur buddy for the sake of a double jump.

[@nathanrohde3292]

@@JJ-qo7th At times Mario is a monster. No sense of duty or loyalty to those who put their neck out for them.

[@AmeriChrisTheMage]

Say something dumb -> Get called out for it -> Change your opinion to be slightly less extreme -> Pretend that was always your opinion -> Call your critics evil liars for getting it wrong -> Double down on your own stupidity because the other side is clearly so evil -> Say something dumb

[@iggsolo]

The conservative art of the motte and bailey

[@MatecaCorp]

Shad is a Mormon. He is absolutely capable of being mistaken about really basic concepts

[@timothywilcox1539]

Please don't rope all Mormons into this.

[@MatecaCorp]

@@timothywilcox1539 I refuse to give cults any legitimacy

[@timothywilcox1539]

@@MatecaCorp I know mormons who support LGBTQ people. Just because people are in a group who's policies you disagree with, doesn't mean there aren't people inside those groups that aren't good, and wanting to make the group better. If it was a cult, I'd be silenced from proclaiming my love for people that break gender norms. Please have a more open mind.

[@MatecaCorp]

@@timothywilcox1539 “if it was a cult it would be slightly worse” lmao keep piling money onto their hoarde, you’ll make it to super heaven someday

[@Likhos1]

I love how whenever Shad is on one of his homophobic tangents you see his cohost slowly dying on the side.

[@pedroocm]

I can't get over him saying "Teach kids to love who they are" right after quite explicitly stating he wants to see "princesses being saved by princes", screw the girls that would like to be the heroes in the movies, because "that's not who they're supposed to be, that's the boy's job".

[@andrewdiaz3529]

He says teach them to love who they are, and then immediately says they must be taught they must be taught only a rigid definition of what they are allowed to be

[@onepresence9460]

I can’t get over it too. It reminds when people at the internet said that will cancel Disney Plus and will never allow their children to see anything Disney related just because a gay character exists.

[@beebs4283]

man i don’t even have a problem with stories where princes/knights saving princesses but that’s such an awful justification for wanting them

[@Gloomdrake]

​@@beebs4283 it's a valid story _option,_ but he wants it to be a mandate. This seems to be his take on media in general. He struggles to comprehend that media can appeal to people who aren't him. Like, his opinion on Elden Ring's story is that it was objectively bad because he had to go out of his way to find it. It didn't tell a story the way he would, so it was just bad

[@BaneHydra]

By "teach kids to love who they are" he means "teach kids to love the roles I impose upon them". Conservatives desire absolute control over their children, it's a very common theme and they don't particularly try to hide it either. Imagine how far gone you have to be to block your kids from watching Disney movies, kids movies literally trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

[@flyingratdog]

Imagine calling someone "evil, vile and dishonest" and "truly despicable" because they thought your take on the Mario movie was bad.

[@huykieu7775]

its so funny how they called the "woke" sensitive and fragile but they themselves are double B-Betas.

[@namegoeshere8998]

Like over and over and over and over again too. Like he thought if he stressed it enough we'd take him seriously and go "Well gee, Jack Saint must be evil, nobody would say this many times if it weren't true!"

[@Vooblebooble]

Genuinely unhinged just how personal he got with it considering Jack's video was barely about him in the first place

[@brendaspence1824]

@@Vooblebooblenotice he pulled the same stunt with angry joe recently 😂 But everyone hates joe so they let him pass on that I guess

[@Mygg_Jeager]

This is the most underrated comment in this whole comment section. I agree 100%. How silly these culture wars have gotten. 40% the North American population fully believes that climate change isn't real, there's war on the European front, democracy is under attack on all sides, and people are arguing about **checks notes** *the Mario and Barbie movies...?*

[@numberonedad]

"girls don't like to be heroes" -genius shad take

[@garynaccarato4606]

Maybe perhaps they should have given Princess Peach a pair of nunchaku or a flail along with a pair of pants because a lot of us already know full well about how much Shad hates those things.

[@VelaiciaCreator]

Oh, and each hit should instakill and send the enemy flying to the horizon.

[@rainierdanredondo1278]

​@@VelaiciaCreatorOh do I love being in "support" and outdamaging everyone

[@Rodomist]

I have an actual criticism of Princess Peach. She did not get to be as much of a goober as every other character. Not as many funny bits as all the male characters got to have. Too much of a straight man, which is a role that girls are often forced into in comedy stories so that boys can be funny.

[@justaghostinthesea]

See this, THIS is actual criticism

[@AzureTheAvian]

I can see that. I think Bowser would have been a better straight man, as he’s the actual villain. It’s funny to see a turtle dinosaur sing about Peaches, but I think a more definitive threat would have made the stakes higher. You can dunk people in lava all you want, but if we can’t stop laughing at you, then you’re not scary.

[@Scroteydada]

The combo of spoiled brat and noble monarch tropes was a highlight of the RPG's. I hope they bring that into the film world eventually.

[@justaghostinthesea]

@@Scroteydada Wasn't that, like, the biggest part of the first season of Game of Thrones?

[@plufim]

If there is justice, Daisy will get to be the MOST Goober in the inevitable sequel

[@ryanratchford2530]

Speaks volumes that Jack never said a single insult directed towards Shad's character in his original video. Whereas Shad went crazy with 2 hours of uncalled for personal attacks. Even all the "insults" Jack said to Shad in this video were either requoting Shad's insults in an ironic way to accuse Shad of all the things Shad was accusing Jack of. And then there's all the joking Shakesphere insults which I look forward to see Shad either get triggered by or pretend to be offened by.

[@magicalgirl1296]

What a guy, you just quote what he says and that reads as a malicious portrayal to him. Shad really needs to chill out.

[@motorcitymangababe]

We need to keep some of those Shakespearean insults frankly lol

[@zephyr8072]

Shad is, like all fundamentalist Mormons, extremely self-entitled, conspiratorial and easily offended. In that the truth greatly offends him. I think he took many by surprise because he generally projects a vibe of this easy-going Aussie nerd when the truth is he is an extremely spiteful and nasty person.

[@Porcuponic]

I think a lot of those were just regular insults. I don't think them being pointed jokes makes them less of an insult. If it's intended to "trigger" shad, which I agree it is, that makes it an insult. See 37:55 "like I'm obligated to be respectful of someone". I don't think he feels obligated to be respectful towards shad. Comparing their character feels a little like it's missing the point. The point is shad doesn't have an argument, his use of disrespect over serious arguments is just evidence of that. Jack's disrespect in return serves the same catharsis for his audience (us) as shad's disrespect does for shad's audience. I don't think there's any need to get up on a high horse about Jack's character. I can appreciate the superiority of Jack's argument while acknowledging a parity in creative shit flinging.

[@AWearyExile]

Conservatives generally feel insulted when you accurately describe their beliefs to them. On some level, I think, they realize they're wrong and stupid and should feel embarrassed, but they lack the tools to respond with anything but outrage since they are incapable of self-reflection.

[@Techno_Bunny433]

The absolute powerplay of introducing yourself as "I am a cuckhold of house gay"

[@joearnold6881]

“People had no problems with me before they knew I was a fascist. Now that I’m open about my fascism they won’t even support me when I’m not actively spouting fascism at that moment!” Lmfao

[@dagan8659]

well, the concept it 100% right... if a fascitst say something right, you don't go against him just cause he is fascist... you are brainwashed.

[@Fluffy6555]

​@@dagan8659what did he say right?

[@andrejv.2834]

​@@dagan8659that's not the point the op was making What they're saying is that it's funny how shad doesn't realise the reason that people didn't hate him for his views years ago is because they didn't know he even held those views

[@rena_sukii]

​@@andrejv.2834so what's wrong w conservatism?

[@andrejv.2834]

@@rena_sukii wanting society to never change, thus never move forward and develop And depending on where you're from larger or smaller amounts of bigotry and intolerance

[@josephmatthews7698]

"He's trying to trick you into thinking he's smart and a good person. Meanwhile I'm here telling you point blank, red faced and yelling, I AM A GOOD PERSON AND VERY SMART WHILE THEY ARE IDIOTS AND VERY EVIL!" The hypocrisy is astounding

[@donaldhysa4836]

But he didnt say that

[@OK-wm2mr]

@@donaldhysa4836 he sure does imply it though

[@donaldhysa4836]

@@OK-wm2mr He has made videos debunking claims that women are too weak to win a fight with a man you are being disshonest

[@benburke3015]

The way Shad constantly falls back on "this person is stupid" or "this person isn't very intelligent and I'm better than them" genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable. If your main argument is "I am smarter than you, I win!", you're implying that our worth as people is based partly on how smart we are, which is weird and... well I'd say mildly ableist, but he literally called Jack the R slur, so no, it is just overt ableism here. lmao.

[@esbenm6544]

@@donaldhysa4836 cope

[@danielwagner2034]

Breaking News: Manchild in Discount Bin "medieval clothing" who only consumes escapist power fantasies has his feelings hurt by a female video game character wearing pants. She was wearing those pants already in Mariokart btw.

[@streamerssaymyname]

Maybe he never played mariokart because it had women driving in it.

[@danielwagner2034]

@@streamerssaymyname yeah women drivers is too much of a fantasy, even for a guy who only reads Fantasy books.

[@zephyr8072]

Shad's daughter: "Dad can I buy Mario Kart?" Shad: "NO! IT HAS WOMEN DRIVERS. You're a girl, you let men drive for you! I forbid it." Shad's daughter: "But I want it for my Switch. :(" Shad: "When did you get a Switch!? I'll be confiscate that. Nintendo is far too woke. Zelda is full of crossdressers!"

[@angela_merkeI]

Why do you see it as necessary to attack his clothing and assume his taste? That's very low, especially when his statements and behaviour give enough good fodder?

[@zephyr8072]

@@angela_merkeI Because it's utterly hypocritical of him for one thing. For another, if he wants to sit there and insult everyone who goes against his narrow-minded, magical beliefs then turnabout is fair play.

[@punishedbarca761]

I have no context for any of these people, so hearing Mario described as a "traditional male hero" fucking killed me