Woke War Mario

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[@bulletproofblouse]

I'm not normally TRIGGERED but the exposed heat element at the bottom of the oven? Oh fuck, I need to lie down.

[@cornela2678]

I used to like Shad before he went mask off. Thanks like a whole three zweihanders for tackling the kerfufflian. Yes I just made a portmanteau of kerfuffled and ruffian. That is Shad. I write too. Angy noises.

[@luckygreentiger]

I could not care less what Alex Jones thinks, or Crowder, or Walsh, they're all assholes that are just in it for the grift. Jones should be ignored by anyone with a soul anyway.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

You should have given the movie a 0/10 because it does not contain Dennis Hopper turning human beings into chimpanzees with a magic de-evolution ray gun.

[@marcusrochford]

I know that the Hello Fresh Sponsorship is a bag and ye need to eat one way or another but the anti-union/ monkey labour company just isn't worth it for me man. Hopefully you just haven't looked into it yet but their practices are Condae Naste levels of shit and Ytubers should not be doing sponsorships if they have a moral compass.

[@ztl2505]

“Bowser is a simp” said like it’s a new thing is hilarious. Bowser being obsessed with Peach is pretty much the oldest series lore, right up there with “Mario is red”

[@nateb746]

seriously...as someone who has never even played a mario game, i know this

[@Spectra651]

Facts. I mean, there's literally a Mario anime from the mid-80's where the entire plot revolves around Bowser kidnapping Peach and trying to win her over so she'll marry him.

[@MoMotaroDaisuke]

I mean if I was stuck in a world where there's nothing but miniature sentiment mushrooms, and small evil turtles and the closest I got to feeling genuine connection with is a blonde human lady then I would be a simp too 💀

[@Bongyes]

Well he is a simp, yes, but also beloved leader, capable commander and succesful father of 8 kids! He is also smart enough to push aside differences when greater problem appears (like smithy or Count Bleck for example). Honestly Bowser is an amazing role model for a masculine being (any being, really, hes just fucking great) that also is not afraid to show his feelings. Let him simp i say.

[@alicewright4322]

Bowser needs to be a simp, otherwise he is just abducting and violating women. That is neither fun nor comfortable to watch with the family.

[@fusionspace175]

Woke + Mario = Wario? My god. This thing goes all the way to the top.

[@Usagi393]

“The woke was coming from inside the house!”

[@hinata167]

NGL that was funny AF

[@NoName......]

Oh god, what about Waluigi?

[@RushWheeler]

​@@NoName...... woke luigi

[@Dan-mo7fl]

he knows too much

[@frickinfrick8488]

The existential horror of being trapped within a mind that watches the Mario movie and has an inner dialogue thinking “peach does stuff in this movie so that’s kinda woke. But the main characters are white so that’s anti woke. But peach wears pants so it’s woke. But Mario saves the day so it’s anti woke. But Mario has flaws. Hmmm”

[@diegozizumbo-ortiz6427]

Talk about mental fvcking gymnastics

[@COrraThereal0ne]

Shrodingers woke

[@undebilefandepokemon3069]

If anything stroke me in the mario movie, it is just how anti-woke and anti-conservative it is as the same, all those political beliefs incarned by Princess Peach. She is a Princess, taking personnal actions and endangering her life to secure her citizens, not just giving orders to spill blood around the kingdoms in a castle while smoking cigars, drinking whine and kissing the flag and then claiming that she reinforced god's will. This is how a ruler should be. Isn't that right, conservatives? And she isn't woke. Under her rule, all civilians were equals. She wasn't creating a social structure based on hierarchical oppression. I loved the movie and princess peach was my favorite character.

[@justaghostinthesea]

​@@undebilefandepokemon3069 The movie is pretty apolitical come to think of it

[@neithermanc1]

that would be awful. my mind was mainly focused on trying to find background easter eggs and references. they were everywhere!

[@borcheim9124]

Love how they claim princess peach is a "mary sue" who can do no wrong then get mad when Mario fails or struggles in any way. Seems more like "mary sue"-ness is only an issue to them when applied to female characters. When it's applied to a male character, it's the "classic hero type!"

[@mkgibertjr]

💯💯💯💯. This is why Rey gets completely shat on while Anakin and especially Luke are exalted

[@rainpooper7088]

Don't forget that if a male character isn't instantly good at literally everything without ever practicing in his life, he's an emasculated punching bag, but if a female character outdoes a male one at one singular activity she has been doing her whole life, it's completely unbelievable.

[@bobbirdsong6825]

@@mkgibertjr No, the reason why Rey is shat on when Anakin and Luke are well-liked is because they are from better media, have stronger personalities, and don't constantly break the lore of their own universe. We ought not deny when there are lazily written characters, that's just giving up critical media analysis because some conservatives want to claim that gays are secretly brainwashing the youth by making female main characters or something.

[@ricsto9111]

@@mkgibertjr because Rey never really fails? Lazy characterdesign in comparison to Anakin and Luke who fail several times and go through an character evolution. I mean Anakin and Luke literally loose a hand because they aren't good enough and Vader has to throw the Emperor over the railing because Luke is pretty much defeated at that point. So Rey is a lazy bum of a Mary-Sue and Luke isn't. Big surprise there, didn't even stand a chance against Vader and lost his hand because of that. Also didn't beat the Emperor, Vader stepped in because Luke was getting electrocuted Rey once again is a lazy bum of a Mary-Sue and Anakin isn't. Also big surprise there it's not like Anakin failed multiple time during the prequels und lost all his limbs because of Obi-Wan in episode 3. You are just a dishonest person. Have a great time biggot.

[@mkgibertjr]

@@bobbirdsong6825 Rey was shat on from the very beginning, even before episodes 8 and 9 came out. Rey in episode 7 was very similar Luke in episode 4, to the point where she's basically a gender swapped clone in a movie that is a blatant rehash of episode 4. In my opinion, that is where the creative laziness exists. In fact, I'd be a lot easier on conservatives if that was where they focused their energy instead of on the fact that she's a mary sue, which comes off as a dogwhistle in a franchise full of mary sues.

[@dling31]

A strong princess? A punching bag male protagonist? That's the original Star Wars! These people are hilarious.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

And yet people demonize Rey

[@AgentH53]

"Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope"

[@nont18411]

@@aeoligarlic4024 Rey is only a part of the problem, but not the whole problem. I think the inconsistency in the plot of sequel trilogy is a way bigger issue.

[@swordigosung994]

@@nont18411 Yeah, Sequel Trilogy is bad, but Rey is just used as a scapegoat for blame.

[@JamesNixon-b7p]

A lot of men hated the original star wars when it came out for that reason. It was mostly the youngins and liberal kids who saw it again and again.

[@XxXNOSCOPEURASSXxX]

Very hypocritical of Tim Poole to criticize Mario for using power ups when he's using the beanie power up 24/7 to cover up his baldness debuff.

[@katherinehemken5544]

I think it is petty and rude to make fun of someone for their physical appearance. Do you also talk about your friends with hair loss this way?

[@ferrisite]

@@katherinehemken5544 AYO THEY EXPERIENCING HAIR LOSS 🗣🗣🫵🫵

[@Dis_Dis]

​@@katherinehemken5544 Ayo your head is shining bro!

[@BrentWalker999]

​@@katherinehemken5544 I think it is very funny when pool is so insecure about it

[@lugoorstar]

@@katherinehemken5544yes, they balding and so insecure about it 😂.

[@Lastprogramer]

"peach is a marry sue, Bowser is a simp, Mario is a punching bag" I'm sorry, isn't that just an underdog protagonist, with a villainous-ly motivated villain, and a desirable love interest? isn't this just EXACTLY THE SAME as any story told in the past 3 hecking centuries?

[@daniexists6]

Don't tell 'em, they might crack.

[@randoontheinternet5842]

The Bowser simp part always gets me, Most people who don’t even play the games know about Bowser being in love with Peach

[@daniexists6]

@@randoontheinternet5842 They don't care about media. They just want to keep women and minorities out of fandom spaces.

[@charmcaster7078]

@@randoontheinternet5842 I guess the whole plot of Mario Odyssey flew over their heads. Heck, the entire Mario franchise must of left their brains XD

[@zephyr8072]

Also “Mario is a punching bag”. There’s an entire running joke in the fandom that Mario is unappreciated and does what he does out of being a simp. Hell. In Mario Sunshine, Bowser Jr. lies about being Peach’s son to Peach’s face *and Peach has to pause and think about it.* Can you imagine if the movie directly implied as Sunshine did that Bowser gets more action from Peach than Mario?

[@caitie8921]

The obsession with Peach being too strong of a character with too much presence is just. Fucking hilarious honestly. My guys, she is a Monarch. How else is she supposed to be portrayed?

[@zephyr8072]

Because they have no idea what Mario is. They only thing they’ve heard is that Peach is a princess who gets kidnapped and they infer everything from that.

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

It’s not even the first time Peach has kicked ass in a game. She’s had several more active or playable roles over the years, especially in spin-offs

[@elen5871]

*insufferable nerd voice* excuse me, peach is a _princess,_ which according to my 300 hour play through of crusader kings 3 means she is mainly useful to her father, the king, as barter to be married off in negotiations for --

[@leephillips4402]

She was meant to marry a toad then accuse her family of being racist.

[@priestesslucy]

​@@elen5871 to be that gal... Peach doesn't have a father on the throne, in name she's the princess but in practice she's the Queen

[@soggydeadwolf1981]

This is genuinely insane. These people are so invested in this fake war between wokeness and "reality" that they can't even just see that it's a silly fucking mario movie. Jack Black sings a song as Bowser about how much he likes Peach and I wasn't sitting there thinking "My god, what a beta mals simp," I just smiled because Jack Black was singing. I am infinitely proud of myself for successfully dodging this way of thinking.

[@mgntstr]

Jack is a liar. These people enjoyed the film and where perfectly happy to expose their children to this harmless film. Nathan loved this film, he was smiling throughout.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Yeah, if only these people could practice what they preach. Calling people triggered snowflakes but they got triggered so much by seeing peaches in a bike. Guess they haven't played mario kart lol

[@havtor007]

@@aeoligarlic4024 So this person that made this video right here that you are watching is using clips from 2 different things and lying to get the responses they want and tricking you into believing what they want you to believe. When that was said they where talking about the Trailer to the movie it lacks context there in the review of the actual movie they never mention it as it is a nothing thing. You have fallen for deceitful hateful person that is Jack Saint lying about what someone actually said about the movie by editing clips to fit your narrative instead of actually using what actually is really not a good look.

[@wakkaseta8351]

It's a war between wokeness and anti-SJWs. These idiots constantly acting like idiots doesn't mean the woke left suddenly never existed.

[@spacebassist]

@@havtor007 remember when alex jones sold those supplements that did... something. make you more manly? and remember when they contained soy and PJW said it's in there to even out the mixture to avoid becoming a "sexual tyrannosaurus" i'm more of a bystander to this "war", this shit is crazy and unhealthy

[@watsonwrote]

7:00 Showing Mario struggling and failing is actually more true to the game experiences millions of players have had. Mario fails, then tries again and again until he overcomes it. Failure is such an important part of gaming it would be weird if the movie didn't address it

[@henrynelson9301]

“Only through the power of magic are they able to actually get anything done” I’d love to see his version of the movie where they just either have no power-ups, or they have them and they’re just useless. Just like the games.

[@leichtmeister]

This! So much this!

[@NoName......]

I LOVE HAVING THE CULTURE WAR SEEP INTO EVERYTHING THAT I LIKE!!!!! I LOVE ENDLESSLY AURGUING ABOUT SHIT THAT DOESNT MATTER!!!

[@bakuganrex5557]

It really is just conservatives doing exactly what they criticize huh? Shoving politics into media that it doesn’t belong in?

[@GeekOwtLowd]

Welcome to the anti-woke movement.

[@spacebassist]

@@GeekOwtLowd i'm not sure he wants to join it. see the part where he said "shit that doesn't matter" edit: i can't tell if you're making a joke so take my comment however you will

[@writinggoose6059]

Straight out of an SA redtext

[@Leavemealone2-po7yn]

WE ALL DO!

[@sammosaurusrex]

Every time I look away from the culture war it gets sillier. Seeing PJW call Mario and Luigi "two WHITE MEN" is the most outlandish thing, I can't believe it really happened

[@SheezyBites]

Italians and whiteness, a pairing that has absolutely no history behind it I'm sure...

[@kostajovanovic3711]

It is silly that JPW is still around

[@ajzeg01]

It’s funny because Italians weren’t even considered white not that long ago.

[@larkohiya]

Mario and Luigi are two white men though. Italian is white as far as most people who care about labeling anyone "white" would care. The number of people who call any old person with power "white" cuz they want to segregate them is pretty high. If Italian isn't white then I guess no one is (the trick is that it doesn't matter to begin with and the grifters are wrong and know this.)

[@SheezyBites]

@@larkohiya At the moment. Historically they haven't been seen as white because they're largely not Anglo-Saxon, and the nature of racial purity means they are likely to not be again if we don't fight against their racism, because they must always have an other to force out.

[@cherrypopscile3385]

Getting mad at Bowser being a simp is like getting mad at Eggman for being an allegory for environmental destruction. Hes kinda always been that

[@PipeGuy64Bit]

Tbf during the 80's and 90's, all depictions of Bowser outside of Japan completely ignored him being in love with Peach. I think the Mario RPG games were the first to show it blatantly in a video game. Heck in the main series before Mario Sunshine, out of context it felt like he was kidnapping Peach just because.

[@akerumiyamoto]

@@PipeGuy64Bit Its because Bowser never was in love with Peach, the original SMB game manual for the NES has stated that he kidnapped her because she had the power to undo his dark magic so that's why he kidnapped her so she wouldn't ruin his planed and it was up to Mario to save her so she could free the mushroom people from Bowers spell. Him becoming a simp was in the first Paper Mario game but then again Paper Mario is a separated universe from the mainline Mario, so Paper Bowser is not the same as regular Bowser.

[@PipeGuy64Bit]

@@akerumiyamoto It actually was the Super Mario Bros. anime movie from 1986 "Super Mario Bros.: The Great Mission to Rescue Princess Peach!" where Bowser was first depicted as blatantly being in love with Peach. I'm not sure how much creative control Nintendo had over it but I think it was an easier project to oversee since it was not outside Japan.

[@akerumiyamoto]

@@PipeGuy64Bit Oh yeah you're right I remember that anime movie I didn't count it cause I've heard it wasn't canon to the games just like the American cartoons weren't connected to the games but still the original reason why he kidnapped her was in the very first game and it was a lot better than Bowser wanting to F Peach which in my opinion makes him look weak.

[@Zangelin]

@@PipeGuy64Bit all the Mario comics in the 80s and 90s had Bowser set up weddings for when he captures Peachs.

[@MedicalCross]

Ok so let me get this straight. They are mad because Peach is much better than Mario and is leading Mario throughout the film. Her being more competent while Mario keeps messing up. It's almost as if, she has lived in the mushroom kingdom her whole life while Mario just arrived just some hours ago and still barley knows anything about this new world.

[@camelliascholl6564]

you have to understand that they think men are inherently better at all physical activities and any instance of a woman outperforming a man is an affront to their entire world view, even if there are a thousand reasons for that woman to be more competent at the given task

[@leichtmeister]

What, strong world building? Booooooh

[@badwulff]

@@camelliascholl6564 I'd almost suggest we should get this dude to swap in for, like, a professional female basketball player for a day or two, if I didn't know for sure that would end up handicapping the whole team

[@theCommentDevil]

'I demand all female characters be helpless' says 3 extras from Monty python's holy grail who have never seen a woman irl

[@philipsalama8083]

Shad's actually married. Though the fact that he's in an incredibly insular cult where no one can marry non-believers probably helped.

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

@@philipsalama8083 He also claimed that his relationship with his wife was "love at first sight" and did a whole video explaining how this is a totally real phenomenon, which doesn't at all impose unrealistic or unhealthy expectations on the partners involved.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

You guys are so brain washed. Watch literally 5 minutes of Shad's review on the Mario movie and you will see everything this guy sais is misrepresentative bullshit. Nathan loved it, Thyrim said it was fine, Shad didn't like it, but he said his children would love it and he thinks it's a good movie for children. There's your summary. It's so simple to take clips out of context and create your own narrative. Your viewers will just eat it up and take it at face value - An echo chamber.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

​@@FrozEnbyWolf150 Couldn't make your point without sweeping in some fanfiction of what Shad said, could you buddy? The shit after the comma is made up. Nice try though.

[@camelliascholl6564]

@@manolgeorgiev9664 if you pay attention, you might notice that only the "love at first sight" part was in quotes, meaning that FrozenWolf was only attributing that phrase to shad the Knight Guy. Everything after that part was not in quotes, meaning FrozenWolf was, in my opinion fairly obviously, trying to make it clear that was his own personal opinion about what shad had said. if i was being cynical i could say "couldn't even make your point without sweeping in some fanfiction of what FrozenWolf said," but i think it's fair to guess you just showed up here ready to fight and you accidentally started swinging blows at the wrong target here.

[@Crylar44]

I've played Mario a lot. Believe me when I say: Mario failing a lot, is very canon.

[@Bongyes]

I'm not sure, the one who has penchant for failure and being goofy one is Luigi. Mario is capable on his own but also rarely works alone. He often teams up. Like with Luigi. Or i dont know... PEACH?!

[@Crylar44]

@@Bongyes Dude, what are you going on about? I'm just saying Mario fails a lot in the Mario platformer games. It's a big part of classic platformer design, that you learn from your mistakes. First time I played Super Mario Bros I died on that first goomba dozens of times. Mario slips and falls of platforms all the time. If he was a confident, competent hero I would say that is not how I remember the games. Brilliance is not his strength, tenacity is. When we play those games we fail and fail again, but we don't give up. In fact that's a big Ludo Narrative dissonance in may games with "cool" heroes, I love me some God of war 3, Kratos is a fucking monster, and in the cutscenes he can't be stopped. But when I control him I miss every fourth double jump and Kratos seemingly just slipped off a cliff to his death after bludgeoning several gods with his bare hands.

[@Bongyes]

@@Crylar44 That is called "skill issue". Narratively spekaing Mario often has no big problems in platfomers. They are not even concerned about the story. You cannot say Mario dies often because you controlling him died often. Every player plays differently. What, you will say Mario is also immortal God when you play perfectly? You cannot even say he is tenacious based on that, what if you give up and never finish the game? The truth its that in most games Mario does not work alone and that helps im accomplish his goals. Either its a special companion (like in most RPG games or the Hat in Mario Oddysey), his brother or other main member of the cast (Peach, Bowser). Mario almost never works alone. The only games where he truly works alone are Super Mario Bros 1, Lost Levels, 3 and 64 to some extend.

[@Crylar44]

@@Bongyes I don't know why you talk about Mario teaming up with ppl. I don't care about the story in Mario games, and would argue if you do there are better games to check out. I care about the challenge, and over coming it. To me, that's what's good about Mario games. And having Mario fail a lot and then win in the end, sounds like they captured that in movie form. Now I having seen the movie, I'm just guessing Bowser don't win in the end. If other ppl give up half way, that's fine. I still wouldn't say that is the spirit of the game.

[@Bongyes]

@@Crylar44 well some Mario games have good story. Dont you dare disrespect Super Paper Mario's story for example. Also yes if i analyze the story, i will look at the story the developers presented or lack thereof, not whatever i did in the game

[@kh-wp1mj]

people who say we dont need feminism are always out there being the reason we need it

[@leavemealone7159]

💀lmao

[@BaronVonQuiply]

It's like the people who say things like _"My parents beat my ass 12 times a day, and I turned out fine!!"_ but it's a little muffled because the phones in Cell Block D aren't the greatest.

[@KalCounty]

"Traditional male hero being made to look like a goofy idiot" says goofy idiot

[@thunderdraco]

Because you don't have a functioning brain. What laws are feminists fighting for that we don't have already? I'm avidly awaiting your goal-post moving or pseudo-intellectual armchair philosophy on what "feminism really is"

[@fluidthought42]

I remember being hard pressed to define patriarchy to some guys until one started talking about how men are naturally suited to roles of power than women, and didn't stop there. That guy right there was the definition of patriarchy and more, explaining it's origin and continued use by opening his mouth and letting sound come out.

[@harvster997]

I like how woke now literaly just means any movie where there's a woman who isn't a kitchen wench

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

And Anti-Woke is any movie with a male lead that’s successful. 😂 Whatever narrative works to allow them to enjoy something without totally getting off the rage bus.

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

​@@TheDawnofVanlife strangely they didn't mentioned how much of a flop The Northman was

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

For real, it's 2023 and people still hate women. It's wild. Everytime I listen to one of those culture war weirdos I feel like I'm being transported back to the past

[@da45r]

​@@sophitiaofhyrulethey got mad at peach wearing trousers saying this wasn't the peach they knew. If they really knew peach they would've known it was her mario Kart outfit 😂

[@gay4sswhovian]

​@@TheDawnofVanlifenah cause the woke don't give a shit about this lmao

[@Jaspertine]

You know what really makes all this kind of hilarious to me? Peach was a playable character in 1988, and her hover jump was extremely overpowered. So yeah, she's helpless in some of the games, but hypercompetent Peach has been an established part of the canon since longer than some of these doofuses have been alive.

[@marianomorellalou3444]

Exactly. Have you seen her in the smash bros franchise? She is fucking terrifying there.

[@jowysw]

The game where the cat bell power up (that appears in this movie) comes from has her as a playable character

[@ryzatheduck5195]

“Mario nails it because of his natural ability and then he gets the powerups on top, she’s like “you can actually save us, Mario we need your help!”” Congrats, you’ve made Mario a Gary Stu, he’s now perfect in every way and everyone loves him. You’ve also removed his persistence, his most prominent and heroic character trait. Good job.

[@trevorstrickland364]

I noticed that too. I understand why people hate Mary Sues but if that hate doesn't extend to Gary Stus as well, then that just shows a bias against women.

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

​@@trevorstrickland364 Sooo many male character are Gary stu. The number one is definitely BATMAN

[@joseantoniovargas6548]

​@@wrestlinganime4life288 I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement, yes Batman is strong but he gets beaten by Bane, has horrible trauma that leads him into ruining the relationship he has with the robins most of the time and his code of not killing is a double edged sword, by allowing criminals to still run rampant through Gotham. So no he isn't a Gary Stu

[@chasesigler9885]

​@@wrestlinganime4life288 because batman totally isn't flawed and doesn't let genocidal maniacs live

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

@@joseantoniovargas6548 you know better than me that I'm talking about his prep time bs.

[@Phished123]

the thing i dont get about the "Bowser is a simp" thing is that the story of fucking Super Mario Oddyssy is that Bowser wanted to kidnap peach to marry her. The Broodals are literally wedding planners!

[@zephyr8072]

Not only that, but Mario and Bowser and *both* dumps and the whole thing ends with Peach rejecting them both *and* stealing Mario’s airship. There’s also that whole thing with Mario cross dressing in Peach’s wedding dress. I’m surprised these conservatives weren’t already fuming over that. Oh wait they don’t actually pay attention unless it’s shoved in their faces for easy clickbait.

[@ananousous]

I mean, what else would convince Bowser to participate in a grueling tennis tournament? He's always just wanted the attention of his goddess

[@kacklina]

The thing that has to hurt them the most, is that even when Bowser was just a ball of pixels, he was already a simp trying to marry the princess and kidnapping her, before even the label simp was born. In a lot of ways he was ahead of the simp era, perhaps a pillar of it, the simp king.

[@superxmario128]

Thing is, Bowser has always had a thing for Peach way before Odyssey. It's the main reason why he always kidnaps her and it's hinted at, if not outright stated in most games and was even the main plot in the anime movie that came out way back in the 80's along with the comic that was featured in Nintendo Power for awhile (which also seems to be what this version of Peach is mostly based off on). Most people don't realize this since the characters are actually allowed to have "personalities" in the movie which mario games generally don't show off much, if at all, so Bowser going as hard as he did for Peach feels new to a lot of people despite the fact that this has always been one of his main goals.

[@Portersona69420]

He has been sense his debut! This is nothing new lmao.

[@spaceace9103]

Imagine being so deep in the culture war that you wont let your kids see Mario Movie.

[@ddjsoyenby]

honestly it's a rock bottom.

[@BakaHoushi]

Mario is pro-mushroom propaganda and I won't stand for it.

[@sg-zd8eb]

Do I have to😔

[@aff77141]

Imagine being so deep in culture war a girl on a motorcycle triggers you. Like where is their fucking head

[@jambott5520]

@@aff77141 wait until they see mario kart wii

[@nikodemjelonek8420]

i'm forever fascinated by people who think "wokeness" of a movie is the most pressing issue in todays life

[@ddjsoyenby]

this is how you know you hit rock bottom and need my "get a life" classes.

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

Bonus points for the fact that they can't even define the term. They're worse than the people who think "a person who considers herself a woman" is an adequate definition of woman.

[@Ponderingtaco]

​@st.anselmsfire3547 but like that is a pretty bog standard definition for a woman idk what ur problem is with it

[@kerseyHarding]

It's one of 2 problems generally. 1) You are so privileged that wokeness in media is the only thing that affects you. 2) Your life sucks and you have no way of improving it, so you attack inconsequential things to make yourself feel better. It's hard to know who to be mad at when your life sucks. Is it your parents, ex partners, bad luck and circumstance, society, economic systems, etc? But, this Mario movie looks bad and I can get mad and blame people for trying to make me watch a bad movie. Or it's the fact that it's a kid's movie and you're 45 years old. Obviously, it looks like silly.

[@mickeyg7219]

People that are concerned about this usually belong to the groups that are privileged, they can afford to worry about something that in the grand scheme of things, doesn't negatively affects them or anyone for that's matter. It's just like the old saying that privileged people thinking that equality is an oppression, and "wokeness" in entertainment media isn't even about that, but rather just one of the many ways writers and artists can take the creative direction (because honestly, corporations don't actually care about equality, and leftists aren't going to fall for it). What right-wingers are doing is essentially just a film "criticism" that they'll take it very personally and will obsess over it for years, whereas career critics will just review and move on.

[@BlueGuyTube]

I love that, when these guys want to make an example of strong female characters "done right" in movies, the two examples that are ALWAYS present are Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor from the Alien and Terminator franchises. But if they react this way for how Peach is portrayed, they would absolutely lose their shit over these two characters if the movies were released today. Especially Sarah Connor: she goes from an average girl that manages to defeat the Terminator through the help of Reese and her brains in the first movie, to an extremely badass and muscular warrior in the second one. Like her look alone is perfect for those horrible anti-SJW thumbnails with flaming background and red eyes with a rage bait phrase like "I'M A MAN NOW, DEAL WITH IT!"

[@UNSTABLE111]

man if anyone of these anti - wokies watched some old 80s michelle yeoh movies or any of the girls with guns (even old school wu xia like Come Drink With Me) hong kong films...they would absolutely short circuit..

[@fatcat1414]

Honestly I think the difference is that time and nostalgia has deemed those characters as socially acceptable objects of attraction while newer characters are more subject to the idea that anything less than extreme tradfemininity suddenly makes a woman unattractive. Conservative men don't want to be caught liking a woman other conservative men don't like, and conservative women don't want to be caught admiring a woman that conservative men have deemed unattractive.

[@mgntstr]

sniffing your own farts and constructing strawmen to conquer with your foam intellect is.. sad. I find my self morbidly curious as to just what level of brain damage is required to perpetuate this way of thinking, is it the comfort of tribalism?

[@ianwalpole1201]

Except that Sarah Connors character is expertly written and the transformation between T1 and T2 is totally acceptable because she has spent over a decade training for the apocalypse. Try again fool

[@BlueGuyTube]

@@ianwalpole1201 She is, but that's not the point, it's just the reaction people would have if the movies released today. Prey, the last movie in the Predator franchise, got a lot of shit form these guys because the protagonist was a woman. Before the movie even released they were calling it woke just because it had a female lead and because "Schwarzenegger couldn't beat him with his muslces, how can this puny woman even have a chance, must be a Mary Sue" which is just an hilarious misinterpretation of what the original Predator was about. Hell, i even saw a lot of comment calling Spider-Verse woke before it released, because of Miles.

[@wutduck1763]

The sort of idea of criticizing Mario as being weak because of some agenda is, just by itself, really fucking stupid. This is an ORIGIN story. He is normal human guy who is suddenly put into this fantasy land. Meanwhile, Peach has been living in this world her whole life. She'd naturally be leagues better than Mario at the sort of tasks he's given, but somehow it has to be twisted into a woke narrative by the right because how dare a woman be more competent than a man.....in a world where she grew up in and said man did not

[@bean6803]

I, for one, think it’s hilarious that the same crowd that criticized Rey from Star Wars for being too naturally good at something she’d never done before is upset that Mario is not naturally good at something he’d never done before

[@trevorstrickland364]

​@@bean6803 just goes to show that they have an obvious bias against women.

[@sharkenjoyer]

@@bean6803 it's almost as if these people just hate women..

[@jlemsey2232]

Imagine being truly convinced that the question of whether or not the Mario movie is woke is like relevant to your life in any possible way

[@TheTenguwarrior]

To be fair, playing devils advocat here: The people who are more likely to home school their children or atleast to campaigning to remove CRT (whatever they believe it is) from public schools and who ban specific books out of school librarys and see the pure mention of other sexualitys then hetero as a moral afront in schools are of course deeply concerned that their poor innocent dear pure children could be manipulated by the woke mindvirus through such backdoor approaches like "Woke Hollywood Movies" for children (remember animated = for children, that's a law xD)

[@sg-zd8eb]

How many comments start with “imagine being..” these days on KZbin? It’s becoming a very annoying trope.

[@henrymorales9584]

@@sg-zd8eb Imagine being annoyed with "imagine being"

[@sg-zd8eb]

@@henrymorales9584 haha😒

[@scaldcrowe]

​@@henrymorales9584 imagine all the people

[@whitebread3872]

When someone calls a movie woke I can’t take that person seriously anymore, and the fact that so many recent kids movies have been called that just because there’s a character who’s in a minority group drives me crazy

[@runningbetweenspaces]

For them woke = any minority I don't like

[@RushWheeler]

Takes me back to the owl house days when people were only reccomending it because of the minorities instead of the plot

[@cata0rostika]

They want to wash kids' brains!!! These liberals!!! Like, please, acknowledging that minorities exist? The bar is so low..

[@jowysw]

@@RushWheeler what?

[@RushWheeler]

@@jowysw there was a group of people who, for some reason, thought it was a good idea to reccomend The Owl House not because of the well-written story, world building or relationship subplots, but because Luz was Latina and bi, Amity was gay and Raine was non-binary, and then called people who didn't watch it homophobes. (Just realized the way I worded this was not the best so I edited the original comment)

[@SaiScribbles]

"Mario doesn't accomplish things through power ups" YOU GET A POWER UP MUSHROOM 2 SECONDS INTO MARIO 1

[@avocadeous]

Seriously. The worst part is he said “Mario 64 and galaxy” like…there’s a star in Bob-omb battlefield that heavily implies that you need to use the wing cap power up. That’s not even mentioning through the jet stream and collect the caps from Jolly Roger bay and dire dire docks respectively. And for galaxy, did he just forget about the bee and spring mushrooms? I mean, the bee mushroom appears in the second level and it’s needed to get pretty much all the stars in that galaxy. Did he even think about what he said?

[@SaiScribbles]

@@avocadeous He played those games once each on a store display I'm sure

[@zephyr8072]

One of the things the developers spend the most thought on in every Mario game is the powerups. There are lengthy design documents for each one, and it’s one of the things players always got excited about. The raccoon tail, the cape, Yoshi, metal Mario. Not to mention the cap abilities in Mario Odyssey.

[@SaiScribbles]

@@zephyr8072 I've also been arguing with people on Twitter who seem to think Nintendo wasn't the ones overseeing the development of this movie. Like, you don't know Nintendo if you truly believe they just licensed the ip out to Universal and fucked off lol. Even with Shigeru Miyamoto as a producer people are trying to tell me it's a purely Illumination movie, there's just no way.

[@randoontheinternet5842]

Of course he wouldn’t know that Mario is famous for power ups, The whole gimmick of these channels is pretending that they’re huge fans of the franchises they’re talking about so that they have an excuse to whine about how the new movie has gone so “woke” that it’s inaccurate to the source

[@cassielcruzchavolla809]

Hahaha, Peach saying Mario was nobody made me laugh so much, like she was just getting out of an explanation, and the toads just accepted it.People reading so much into that joke is so funny to me.

[@bakuganrex5557]

It really is

[@juliacortez5516]

So many people who think there actually is a culture war, or have been influenced by people who think it's real, always read into light jokes you shouldn't be thinking much about in the first place

[@cassielcruzchavolla809]

@Julia Cortez Furthermore, I think it's particularly stupid to claim a culture war over this film, which was literally the most inoffensive movie that I have watched in a while. It's so clear that Nintendo wanted to play it safe to preserve its current "apolitical" image.

[@adrianomaly1760]

That lady at 11:34 “would you mind defining woke?” Excellent Excellent delivery on that nothing but respect for her looking at that interviewee with dead eyes.

[@erraticonteuse]

I cackled when she said, "Take your time." 😂

[@btarczy5067]

It’s just so goofy. I almost expect someone breaking into laughter during an anti-woke tirade. „This is what we’re doing? The concept of a hero facing adversity and defeat is woke now? Who’s buying this?“ is what I picture them thinking. It’s so dumb that it seems impossible they themselves believe any of it.

[@btarczy5067]

While the pundits themselves appear like grifters to me when they say their schtick I am aware that many people actually do buy it. And it must be so tiring. Crowder and Co want them to be miserable, finding a sneering joy only in the misfortune or even suffering of „the other team“ or, let’s be real, minorities they hate. No one wins here. Except for Crowder.

[@cheesydawg371]

So no female characters are allowed to be inherently powerful but also male characters need to be inherently powerful? Can't have it both ways... Well can't but they certainly want to.

[@rainpooper7088]

@Cheesy Dawg Precisely. The idea that a female protagonist could achieve anything on her own, even in a made-up setting where any societal or biological disadvantages don't matter, is so unbelievable to them they call bs on it as soon as it's remotely implied, yet as soon as a male protagonist is anything less than a perfect paragon who looks good to the audience 24/7 and is in control of every situation (aka a Mary Sue), they see it as a personal attack on the whole freaking gender.

[@thevioletbee5879]

No matter how I feel about the movie, the discourse around it makes me want to die.

[@Nick-cs4oc]

This is the most entertaining part about the movie

[@butifarras]

@@Nick-cs4oc Agreed

[@alenezi989a3]

Never knew there was any discourse thought everyone loved it.

[@leephillips4402]

People wanted this film to be a bigger deal than it was and now they're just filling the void, they did the same thing with Porgs, give it time and everyone will forget they ever cared, like they did that time Family Guy made a reference that I guess was in the joke family to Bojack Horseman.

[@AndroidHarris]

I agree this is pretty bad. I wanted to have a fun discussion over a movie that wasn't that good but had a lot of fun game references. This however hurts me.

[@JBoy62497]

"It is impossible to not be alarmed by things like Bo Peep from Toy Story 4" is fucking hilarious

[@JBoy62497]

Try Not to Get Scared By Vaguely Feminist Cartoon Character Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@christophergreen6595]

I prefer Bo Peep from 'Happy'

[@kendrick5501]

Bo Peep was actually awesome in Toy Story 4 so it's really baffling

[@ldallas8315]

I’m truly amazed by these guys and their lack of self-awareness. HOW can they not see how easily upset and insecure they come off as when they freak out over children’s movies having female characters that are… confident?? Like they’re just nakedly displaying that they can’t handle even fictional women having a baseline amount of self-assurance. Or any pants

[@lukeshioshio]

Toy Story 4 is literally the best one too

[@zenith8391]

She's just standing there! Confidently!

[@Starvir0]

The reason why Mario is a "bumbling idiot" in the movie is because the movie is LITERALLY an isekai. Where a person is transported to a reality unlike their own. He is supposed to be unfamiliar with it and fumble, otherwise there is no reason to make the movie an isekai xD And how is making the monarchy strong and powerful "woke" in the first place? Shouldn't that be the opposite?

[@trevorstrickland364]

They can't handle the idea that men aren't real life Gary Stus and that women can be competent.

[@johnblanchard5395]

Imagine the LotR movies coming out today and dealing with this. "The fellowship fell apart so early. The white guys failed, woke af" "What do you mean they get help from an elf queen?? Only women get help" "Those two hobbits seem a little too intimate, they must be pandering to the gays"

[@squeaks5677]

“Saruman the White is obviously pushing woke idea that all white people are evil.”

[@zephyr8072]

“Oh of course Saruman turned out to be evil. Can’t have any white man in high authority without him secretly working for the dark overlord! And they even call him Saruman the White! Clearly rubbing in our faces that all white men are evil.”

[@mkgibertjr]

"I am no man" would've caused them to factory reset.

[@TearfulMoon]

@@mkgibertjr that would be glorious

[@Vesperitis]

"Legolas, and Gimli look pretty gay, and they're different races. Ew..." "Merry and Eowyn fighting and defeating the Witch King together? What are they, an interracial romance?" "Look, Aragorn is kissing the corpse of Boromir. That's so gay and disgusting!"

[@KevinCow]

Something I realized while watching this is that their entire opinion on media seems to be based on how woke it is. There is no separation from the actual quality. It's just, woke bad, anti-woke good. Tim Poo's friends start talking about what they think about the movie, and he immediately jumps to his opinion on how woke it is. This is interesting because while the left frequently analyzes media and criticizes conservative messages (I mean that's basically the point of this entire channel), it's not uncommon for us to disagree with the message of a movie, even find it problematic, but still enjoy it. Like, The Dark Knight and 24 were super Bush-era conservative. Violating human rights with torture and surveillance? It's fine if it's the good guy doing it to save us from terrorists! Kinda gross. But they're still really good. So you have funny situations like last year when conservatives thought the left was absolutely _seething_ about the success of Top Gun Maverick, but all the leftists were actually like, "Oh yeah it's definitely some blatant military propaganda, but it's still good as hell."

[@Spice8Rack]

I've never seen a more perfect example of the disconnect between how reactionary men wish to be viewed & how they actually are than a guy in a comfortable, chainmail pattern hoodie, getting physically angry at a cartoon princess' narrative agency, in front of a bunch of foam swords and sheilds.

[@qaztim11]

they are real swords, i dont know if tha makes it better or worse......

[@alenezi989a3]

Shad is actually well informed on medieval sword fighting and armor and culture in general, his videos are really entertaining and informative, I'm just surprised/ disappointed that he has taken such a weird stance like this.

[@somik-i3x]

@@alenezi989a3 Maybe all his brain power is on sword/armor/medieval culture , so his media analysist is inexistant/corrupted by the woke stuff.

[@hogndog2339]

@@alenezi989a3 It's not uncommon for him. He just keeps his political opinions off his main channel (mostly). But you'll find that he often has reactionary opinions

[@alenezi989a3]

@kshamwhizzle6544 I mean, Captain Marvel was pretty trash, I think almost everyone agrees on that, I just thought he would be able to differentiate between a good movie and a bad movie.

[@kiatorrette5631]

21:16 The very idea of confidence in a woman is so terrifying to these people and i can't help but laugh at this point

[@khadeejones1136]

I almost died. How can someone be so ridiculous and so unaware at the same time?

[@AgentH53]

HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL THIS? That is not the bloody issue. Females now are written as Mary Sues. Avoiding femininity at all cost. -- Mary Sue is a term used to describe a fictional character, usually female, who is seen as TOO perfect and almost boring for lack of flaws.

[@blueizumi]

Reminds me of No BS saying “there’s a suspicious amount of female characters”

[@neevko267]

​@@blueizumi remember kids, there's only 2 genders male and woke

[@infiniteoctopaw]

The fact that people got mad and cried about her outfit, one she has had for YEARS in mario kart is so funny. No one show them Mario tennis. It might actually kill them. Princess Peach has been badass since Mario 2, where have these guys been sleeping the past 30+ years?

[@snoot6629]

it pains me these mfs don't know their Mario lore yet they let their childish feelings dictate them on such subjects they know nothing about Which is wild cause on their channels they always say "i have no personal feelings about this - its completely just facts" "you are nitpicking and biased. I win. bye bye"

[@Kumaclaws]

What gets me is that for a very long time, a majority of online discussion for princess peach was “she doesn’t do anything!!”. But now that she does things, it’s bad? I don’t get people

[@zephyr8072]

Actual Mario fans tend to react to Peach doing things very positively.

[@RecRoomPlays]

Well it's not the same people, for one thing. The people now saying that Peach being a girlboss is "too woke" are the people who, back then, were saying that it was perfectly fine for Peach to always just be a passive damsel in distress.

[@sanachanto]

The Peach segments of Paper Mario were always my favorite

[@rinayasi]

let's be honest here, peach has been top tier in nearly every smash bros game, she could escape browser if she wanted but she doesn't. i say we need more peach saving mario games

[@khadeejones1136]

Misogynistic people will always find a way to hate female characters

[@Metzelbarsch28]

It was hilarious seeing these idiots try to make sense of their own culture crusade. OVER A MARIO MOVIE. Can you imagine if Shrek came out nowadays. Shit would be hilarious

[@googamp32]

I can only imagine! "HOT CHICK SAVES THE GREEN GUY? BAH! DREAMWORKS? MORE LIKE DREAMWOKES!"

[@Metzelbarsch28]

@@googamp32 The princess is ugly???? This is fat acceptance gone wrong!?!?!?

[@goobertron9099]

SHORT PRINCE GETS REJECTED!???? WOKE DREAMWORKS

[@zephyr8072]

Reactionaries: lol woke snowflakes get triggered over anything. Also reactionaries: I DON’T LIKE WHAT THE WOMAN DOES IN THIS CARTOON SO IT’S BAD.

[@jowysw]

If Avatar the Last airbeinder was made today, it would be called "woke" day one.

[@JessicaRainey970]

I was really hoping to find out if The Whale (2022) is woke so I can know whether or not to take my 40 year old overweight son to see it on Blu-ray, but instead you helped me figure out whether or not The Mario Movie is woke so I know whether or not to take my 40 year old overweight son to see it in the theater instead. Thank you, Jack Saint!

[@Daneelro]

🙂 Regarding The Whale, I didn't like it, but Brendan Fraser's performance was still great. If you have a 40 year old overweight son, this film might depress him.

[@MrShinjiTabris]

I'm glad you're still in touch with and so close to your overweight son even though he is 40, good work Jessica!

[@MayorOfEarth79]

The Whale is so woke it makes fans harass fat people. You know, the people the movie is trying to be empathetic about.

[@Pussyrepelent]

@@MayorOfEarth79 it’s not trying to be empathetic necessarily it’s trying to highlight what addiction looks like and what it does to people

[@Daneelro]

@@MayorOfEarth79 You're obviously an idiot who never saw the film. US conservative dupes on the "EvErYtHiNg Is WoKe!!!" snowflake meltdown trip remind me of all the Muslims who raged about Salman Rushdie's _Satanic Verses_ novel, without having read it.

[@mikaschwarzer1977]

I feel like the clumsyness of Mario represents the new player first starting to play mario just to die a few times until they figure it out... They can't let him die obviously but that works as well

[@akerumiyamoto]

Yeah, and that's dumb, him dying is the players fault not Mario canonically you might as well have all game characters die in their movies because people who play games always fail don't matter what game it is but it's the player not the character, so I didn't like that idea.

[@ultra-g8187]

You can tell that NO ONE has never heard of the Super Princess Peach for the DS where she literally saves Luigi, Toad, Mario AND takes the whole kingdom back from Bowser using nothing but a talking umbrella and her emotions

[@marcelinepink]

I love how weak these people's arguments are. Like, they'll say: "Peach is too masculine and this is trying to brainwash our daughters into thinking they are strong and they'll end up harming themselves" -- Like bro what 💀💀 you're not adressing the fact that telling girls they should be submissive and weak is literally against human rights.

[@daniellewasdelayed8921]

Bold of you to think they care about human rights

[@zephyr8072]

I nearly had an aneurysm at the implication of women being on the same level as men means girls will go out and get raped. Just… what. Also the one saying that being a woman… well shut up then don’t you know women are forbidden from preaching to men so sayeth the Lord?

[@emilyrln]

Well, if you believe women are inferior, the best way to keep them safe is to convince them of that so they never try to do anything. Perfectly logical from their warped worldview.

[@SheezyBites]

Bold of you to think they consider girls or women to be human.

[@marcelinepink]

@@daniellewasdelayed8921 fair point

[@ericpeterson6520]

What is these people's endgoal? Do they just want all media to tell the exact same story over and over until the end of time with no surprises? Have they even thought that far ahead?

[@ShakirraR]

It's like they want every movie to be Conan the Barbarian or something...

[@Vangluss]

Since a lot of reactionary thought is predicated on mythologized nostalgia, they want the same stuff they consumed as little children - mindless slop that’s almost no better than propaganda with clear good guys and bad guys, narrow definitions of women being women and men being men, and flat characters with plotlines that don’t challenge or inspire thought in any way. In fact, I’d argue that most conservatives/reactionaries just want to be pandered to in everything like needy children who are never satisfied even when their demands are met.

[@justanotherhtffan]

Yeah. Conservative fascists hate creativity and anything new, since society/media progressing and changing scares them.

[@squeaks5677]

They want the movie to push their ideals. This has been nothing new and has been happening for decades now.

[@NoiseDay]

They want their dads to say "I'm proud of you" just once before they die

[@MetalSocks]

"Through the power of cinema magic, Mario had to use power ups to save the day!" at this rate I'm surprised they didn't note the Rainbow Road was a type of LGBT agenda or something if these guys can't admit they never played a Mario game since the early 90's.

[@zephyr8072]

I bet you the only reason they didn’t is because the rainbow road pops up a lot in a google image search for “Mario kart”.

[@McRonald2010]

The worst thing about the rainbow Road issue, is that in twitter it happen the LGTV agenda complain.

[@PapasGatito]

@@McRonald2010 engrish

[@actualgoblin]

@@McRonald2010 not the LGTV BBQ premiumplus agenda 🥺

[@priestesslucy]

It's weird, Peach was useless against Bowser without power ups as well 🤷‍♀️

[@MichiInWonderland]

So admittedly, I'm not an expert in Mario Lore. I watched my play Mario Sunshine, and I owned a Mario Teaches Typing game for the PC when I was a child. Even I know that Peach has had bad ass moments in games. She's been an active character in the games for a while now hasn't she?? Slight spoilers for the movie: Yes Peach is strong, but she also asks for and seeks HELP from others? She's never "I'm strong enough on my own!" Her strategy against Bowser is to ask for help from others. Hell when Toad says that he's going to protect her, she's genuinely grateful and accepts his help, she isn't all "Excuse me! I don't need a man to protect me!" So like... what are these people complaining about? That she... knows how to navigate a world that she's spent her entire life in..? That she.. isn't in a cage only to be seen at the end of the movie?

[@jakeystarsuper]

Peach does seek help but still shes never shown to need any help considering she was perfect the entire film

[@Baconator2558]

​@@jakeystarsuperShe loses every fight she's in. They lose on Rainbow Road, she loses the fight at the wedding until Mario and Donkey Kong show up to save her, and she loses to Bowser in Brooklyn.

[@jakeystarsuper]

@@Baconator2558 she didn't really "lose" I will say that Mario interrupted at a convenient time. she was handling it just fine on her own

[@Baconator2558]

@@jakeystarsuper She certainly didn't win. The whole first half of the movie is her getting the Kong army so she can take on Bowser, then they all get captured on Rainbow Road, so she has to resort to evacuating everyone and standing up to Bowser herself, when he pretty effortlessly forces her hand so she has to marry him. At the wedding, she temporarily incapacitates him before duking it out with some of his minions, but eventually loses her ice powers to King Bob-omb alongside the ice holding the prisoners up breaking. Donkey Kong and Mario then have to take out more of the grunts and save the prisoners. Then in Brooklyn, DK and Peach both get one cheap shot on Bowser before both being defeated by him off-screen.

[@jakeystarsuper]

@@Baconator2558 In my opinion she was holding her own against bowser with no problem until the bomb exploded. That was the bomb not bowser himself. I'm just saying they could've made the scene for peach more interesting. Make her actually struggle against bowser to show how much of a threat bowser is. Bowser wasn't all that much of a threat if peach was able to have the upper hand on him that quickly but at the end this is Mario's movie so the movie knew they needed peach to back off

[@Inkshard]

Ok but... Do theses guys who criticize the Mario Movie for being woke and Peach for being a girlboss not know the spin offs exist ?! Do you think they see games like Super Princess Peach and think "wow this game is corrupting children for having Peach save Mario" ? What about games like Mario Strikers where Peach plays soccer in an underground arena and slams people in electrical fences ?! Do they get triggered when they see Peach as a playable fighter in Super Smash Bros ?! I need to know !!!

[@Diogo85]

They either never played those games or they have but they don't care.

[@wesshiflet2214]

no SPP was ok bc in that game she fights with her wifely emotions

[@Psychoclaw]

These kind of dudes would lose their shit if "Alien" had been released today. WHAT? A WOMBAN? DEFEATS THE MONSTER THAT THE MEN COULDNT!?!?? WOKE!!!

[@randoontheinternet5842]

og Mulan would actually melt the heads of their audience if it were released today - Story about a woman defying the role her society expects from her - The woman gets away with cool feats - Based on Chinese culture - Majority of male characters are used as comedic relief

[@zephyr8072]

Also the male lead has some feelings of attraction to Mulan before finding out she’s a woman.

[@Mikedot]

​​​@@randoontheinternet5842 I kinda disagree. While the movie presents Mulan as a very independent lead, the movie still expresses themes in a believable manner. The whole reason why Mulan goes to war is because she doesn't want her father to go off and possibly die, showing how much she loved him. While she did perform cool feets, she did most of them relying less on pure physical strength and more on strategies and physics, showing that women can be strong in different ways. While the male characters were used in comedic moments, they still were competent and came to trust Mulan because they all saw how hard she worked, showing that respect must be earned and not given, and even at the end, Mulan still needs the help of friends to save the day. These are all universal themes that everyone can understand and appreciate, so I highly doubt anyone except the spergiest of them all would have a problem with it even by today's standards.

[@randoontheinternet5842]

@@Mikedot I gotta disagree with ya, From my years on the internet I have known that they won’t be satisfied until all female characters are demoted to side characters only and all male characters are invincible Gary Stues, Take the movie this video is about, They got mad at the trailers for showing that Peach wasn’t going to be a weakling like she is in the mainline games, We didn’t see Peach fight in the trailers so it’s not about women winning in physical fights, It’s about brave women not fitting into their silly ideology

[@zephyr8072]

@@randoontheinternet5842 Pretty much this. They SAY they just want believable female characters like the good old days but in practice they openly cannot stand anything that isn’t white male leads with subservient women in the background. Sometimes they’ll allow for the women to be “badass” as long as ultimately they are prizes for the male leads to claim.

[@javsandarts]

I can't imagine a normal human being with so few problems that they need to use The Mario movie as a vehicle to their hate for "wokeness"

[@zeynaviegas]

people used to talk this about woke before, remember? there was this narrative that woke people have no problems, no actual fights in their lifes, they start to invent stuff like racism, transphobia and etc. now we have anti woke just making shit up because their life is that non interesting.

[@greysnake2903]

@Padraic Ryan *Geeks

[@Chapmike]

@@greysnake2903 Nah, more like just people with their own agenda pretending to be nerds/geeks, trying to gaslight the real ones. Too bad for them, being actual nerds/geeks means we know better than them how the Mario universe actually works, so they're wasting their time. You know why they pretend to be? Because it's mostly not seen as being lame anymore, and even highly successful on social media. Look at Jeremy from Geeks + Gamers. Do you honestly think he portrays that name in any capacity? Just don't let them fool you, they don't represent us at all.

[@Chapmike]

@@manolgeorgiev9664 Are you serious? He's literally showing videos of people saying it, but you claim he's lying?

[@tripqinghazard]

@@Chapmike you do realise that quotes can be taken wildly out of context

[@lpqsilver]

Can't wait to get my Blu-ray copy of the Mario movie, so I can snap the disk into a teacup and read the shards to see how against wokeness society is

[@ddjsoyenby]

i'll sacrifice it to my antiwoke god ron desantis!

[@TheBostonboy95]

A copy?!?!? I’m buying all of wal marts stock of Mario movies, just so I can run it over with my pick up truck on fb live, so the libs see how against wokness I am

[@MrGared22]

I'd laugh if I wasn't convinced that a lot of people will probably do exactly that (see: the Bud Light fiasco).

[@vetreas366]

Snap the disk, grind it into fine powder, mix with a bit of coke and sniff it all up for the true 3D IMAX experience.

[@TheZuinar]

plainrock124's long lost brother

[@harmonicartist]

“Don’t let the yahoos take away from your wahoos.” -Supportive Mario

[@adama.7735]

If a movie flops, it means it’s “woke.” If a movie is a hit, it means it’s “anti-woke.”

[@mrboost4186]

But Captain Marvel was a hit

[@adama.7735]

That’s different! Disney faked those numbers!

[@summers7554]

​@Mr Boost That happens a lot, they just ignore it lmao

[@gwell2118]

@@summers7554 Pretty much, if something is a hit that they can't co-op they just stop talking about it. The clickbait vids just disappear.

[@zephyr8072]

When Captain Marvel made bank they instead focused exclusively on shit flinging at Brie Larson and barely if ever mentioned the movie. They also never talk about white male led films with no “wokeness” to pick apart like Morbius that bombed spectacularly because that’d be inconvenient.

[@SendyTheEndless]

When you're holding a woke, everywoke wokes like a woke nail.

[@christophergreen6595]

FNORD

[@emperorfrozenbillrulerofan8767]

The best part is when they say "Its' Wokin time", then they woked all other the gay guys

[@Axolotl720]

@@emperorfrozenbillrulerofan8767I’m woking

[@lugoorstar]

@@emperorfrozenbillrulerofan8767help I am gonna woke 😫.

[@poopscoop9016]

When everyone is woke no one is, and when no one is woke everyone is, and when you stare into the woke, take care the woke does not stare back into you, for he who wokes fastest wokes slowest

[@Onemanshowoff]

A girl does a backflip, that's suddenly more outrageous than a turtle committing kamikaze

[@jasmijnwellner6226]

Mario never fails, he can only be failed. But all of these grifters miss the real message of the film: that Bowser is coming

[@mr.dookie3243]

The movie is neither woke nor anti-woke, its just an enjoyable movie with the universal theme of never giving up

[@WafflesX3XD]

the moment those woke agenda mario videos started popping up i couldn’t help but simply think “but it’s mario??????” and have been too bewildered to get beyond that thought jdhdkdjdk

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

That Shad thinks Mario is a traditional male hero explains a lot actually

[@sadlypen8152]

I'm only 90 seconds in and my brain is already melting from all these complaints about women wearing pants

[@Madison-iw8ix]

That was a complaint from the video about the trailer, and there wasn't any mention of it in the movie review

[@OtakuD50]

@@Madison-iw8ix An irrelevant fact. They still complained about it, and no amount of complimenting the movie will change the fact that they complained about that specific thing and had some kind of reasoning to justify it.

[@daniexists6]

I don't say this enough in regards to anti-SJWs, but 99% of the time, it feels like they've never seen/played the original source material. Peach's stuff in here came from the Super Mario Adventures comics, Mario is literally on a hero's journey to become who we know him as, and Bowser was always based on Bluto and Peg-leg Pete, two ancient, mustache twirling villains whose evil originally came from the love of the girl and the hero getting in the way and giving him what for. Good work as always, Jack.

[@thegreatBarbossa]

Because they only care about things if they can whine about them, simple as.

[@daniexists6]

@@thegreatBarbossa I know. It's always a ploy to keep women and minorities out of nerd spaces and they don't actually care. I come from this as a fan of the Looney Tunes and Animaniacs and seeing folks like The Quartering get angry over the removal of Elmer Fudd's guns while actively admitting on camera that he doesn't give a shit, meanwhile the reason was there were only so many gags you could do with a duck getting shot in the face.

[@leephillips4402]

Actually Pete was originally a bootleger but prohibition ended so Walt switched to the love triangle angle.

[@daniexists6]

@@leephillips4402 While I do appreciate your handling of this, no. While we in our modern era are more aware of Bootlegger Pete in the wake of Epic Mickey and similar stuff, in the 80's when these games were being made that stuff wasn't known. And since of that fact and the popularity of the rubberhose Disney characters and Popeye the Sailor in Japan in that era I find it more believable that it was based around the late 20s-early 30's Pete.

[@leephillips4402]

@@daniexists6 I was just stating it as a fun fact I didn't mean to imply you were wrong, I probably was his Mickey Mouse Era characterization that inspired Bowser.

[@rocksolid4597]

It's so funny and telling how conservatives will present themselves as fans of anything they complain about while not knowing shit about it and calling things like Peach's outfit woke even though those things were literally always there.

[@zephyr8072]

Tim Pool’s line about powerups is the very epitome of the quote “The problem with the world is the intelligent are full of doubts while the stupid are full of confidence.”

[@Madison-iw8ix]

Jack absolutely butchered together clips from the trailer reaction (which came out BEFORE the movie), ignored the part where Nate from Knight's Watch said he absolutely loved the movie, and also ignored where Shad said he would 100% take his kids to see the movie.

[@rocksolid4597]

@@Madison-iw8ix I have no clue about your first argument, but the latter are literally meaningless. I could not care less if any of either those gamergate esque commentary youtubers or straight up fascisty conservatives said they liked the movie. That's not the problem, I do not give a fuck if you like the movie or not. It doesn't change the fact that those "reviews" are being used by them as an easy and weasley way to spew out more culture war bullshit turning their audience more and more radical.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

​@@Madison-iw8ix ) they still whined about "wokness"

[@lugoorstar]

@@Madison-iw8ix they still whined over someone wearing pants (on a CATsuit) and defended themselves by saying that they are “ok with it” because “there’s a reason” for a woman to dare and use pants.

[@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana]

Tim Pool: "Mario FAILS??? 🤯" Meanwhile, Mario has multiple lives in-game because failing is expected.

[@HeroOfLegend115]

I had such a visceral mental reaction to that man saying “Mario does not use power ups”

[@netanelaker4437]

Me, a non-American: "These people must have easy life if they fight each other because of a Mario movie."

[@TheDoomBlueShell]

Me seeing politicians in my country were 80% of people don't even make 300 USD mouthly forcing this is as a real war they need to waste time and money on, we even had the stupid trans people in school bathrooms discussion when almost 60% of schools only have one bathroom for kids and staff to use and 10% don't even have bathrooms is just a hole in the ground, but well good thing we waste the money on making transphobic laws instead of making bathrooms for kids...

[@ananousous]

As an American, I think it's also because the choices are either talk about the newest edition of "the woke", or cover that morning's most recent school shooting.. But yea, it's certainly a grift that pays well

[@doodoofartman]

Yeah, costco hotdogs are probably keeping some of us alive right now.

[@nononope75]

@@ananousous "anti-woke" grifting sells insanely well. The most well known grifters can get paid massive amounts just to spew the most vitriolic and false statements about select groups just for even existing. It's maddening at times

[@alenezi989a3]

I think they're Australian I know Shad is, I don't know the other guys.

[@daltonwilliams1723]

12:35 I think the only reason the toads made Peach their leader was just because she’s taller than them. I wouldn’t be surprised if half her duties are just reaching for high places the Toads can’t reach

[@scusachannel1682]

Yeah but couldn't they just eat a power mushroom and get taller?

[@rockhistoria2537]

@@scusachannel1682 although it's the most logical solution, the moral implications here are something i do not want to think about

[@bakuganrex5557]

💀💀💀

[@MrSharpShooterMan77]

It's like in Invader Zim where the only reason Zim's race has the leaders it has is because they're the tallest, hence "Almighty Tallest".

[@justaghostinthesea]

That's actually kind of wholesome

[@rainydayjules]

No power ups for Mario, he’s gotta fight Bowser naked with his hands like Beowulf and Grendel

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

The woke mob won't let me have Mario and Bowser naked and oiled up wrestling Greco-Roman style for the honor of being immortalized in poetry

[@aquabluerose7734]

The irony is that once they see that Mario isn't secretly Gigachad underneath the overalls, they might just be mad again.

[@GoogalyB]

I love that the Mario Movie is gonna be the thing that completely splits the “anti-woke” community apart. Their “go woke go broke” motto can’t even make sense without requiring them to move goalposts lmao

[@vaiyt]

You underestimate their copium

[@spacebassist]

@@vaiyt holy crap this reminds me of the time those two jedi fought on mustafar

[@thehorriblebright]

The big enjoyment I got out of the movie was seeing it with my kid, who was brought up by me and his mom on Mario games. It was a triple threat of my own nostalgia, his nostalgia and my deep love for my son who's growing up too quickly.

[@Starvir0]

If your first thought when watching the MARIO BROTHERS movie is: this is too woke You should not watch media after the first world war

[@cata0rostika]

"Peach is taking charge" boy, she's the QUEEN? She's never had a KING? Kinda late to notice that Peach is in charge tbh

[@andrejg4136]

Well her title is officially "Princess" but she is sole sovereign of the Mushroom Kingdom's government.

[@cata0rostika]

@@andrejg4136 you're right, I forgot about the Princess title. However, she does reign in (I would say, but I could be mistaken) every Mario game, so at least my point stands. She's always been in charge

[@andrejg4136]

@@cata0rostika Yeah in every game and pretty much all Nintendo-endorsed media, Peach is Princess and ultimate authority of the Mushroom Kingdom.

[@lancerguy3667]

@@andrejg4136 which technically means it’s a mushroom “principality” and not a “kingdom”, but eh…. I try not to be pedantic about a video game for children. 😂

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

@@andrejg4136 It's a principality.

[@darrenparis8314]

"An inoffensive product is not the same as an apolitical product, because at the end of the day, what is considered inoffensive is always based on a political reality."

[@thepangwin902]

People are going to look back on this in the way we look back on the Satanic Panic. You can be on the side of the people saying the devil is talking through backwards records or the person that enjoyed playing D&D and rock music.

[@LordVarkson]

Not only is Peach's mario kart racing suit established canon, but it's also my favourite peach outfit.

[@trevorstrickland364]

It's appalling to me that a woman wearing pants actually triggered these chuds. EDIT: they would definitely hate me because I have a thing for tomboys.

[@NIX-hp3xp]

“Well peach was the one leading them” YEAH she’s a princess??? That’s what they are supposed to do. Mario in the movie isn’t even from there how are they supposed to know who he is

[@3dartxsi]

How long do we have before conservatoves lose their minds over strawberry ice cream because its pink?

[@SmartSmears]

When I see culture war videos like the ones here I have to wonder if the people doing these things are happy or if they have had the soul sucked out of them

[@Fopenplop]

PJW looks absolutely miserable in every one of his vids, I gotta say. I think Jones is probably mad that his career's in the toilet so now he has to play 2nd mic for much less successful dickheads who want to do bits about baby movies.

[@matthewvollmer2066]

In this case, the ones who think it’s anti-woke are happy, and those that think it’s woke are sad

[@christophergreen6595]

Truly.

[@ShinSennju]

A lot of them are just grifting, it's about the clicks. Their audience, however...

[@zkoopa4445]

I wonder the same, Foo.

[@thenayslayer]

How dare she 'just stand there with confidence'! 😂

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

It's 2023 and grown men still can't over the fact that women exist

[@Silburific]

Hearing shadiversity whine about Mario being a punching bag had my jaw on the ground. My guy, he's a normal human man who got isekai'd into a fantasy world- he has to learn to be badass! Have you never heard of "The Hero's Journey"?! You wrote a book; it must be pretty shit if you don't even understand one of the oldest story structures in literature! It's like knowing someone has an art show and overhearing them say "what are those weird, colored smears ruining my canvases?"

[@OddManeuver]

Yeah, there's something surreal seeing someone that studies history and traditions to be such a stubborn traditionalist. I guess its not strange, but it feels weird to me.

[@scooterjones303]

That clip was him speculating based on the trailer. In his actual movie review he was fine with Mario's characterization.

[@OhNotThat]

Shad only features 2 minutes in this, this forced him to retaliate with a 2 hour epic reply video. Less than a day later.

[@everywhereattheendofemilyp7488]

Is Princess Peach a girl boss? My dude she is literally royalty.

[@ThePlotaGuy7]

It’s sad how people judge films based on the amount of wokeness rather than quality. You can have a barely-noticeable pride flag that shows up onscreen for half a second and people would be like: *_”WhOa! PRiDe fLag?! ThEy’rE tRying tO brAinWaSh oUr ChiLDrEN!!! boYcoTt tHis FiLm!!!!”_*

[@thevioletbee5879]

Yeah. Could. Totally just could…

[@philipsalama8083]

You can have a barely noticeable pride flag in real life and people shit themselves, like that guy who decided to harass some Lego store employees the other day and post it online, because one had a pride pin on his uniform.

[@ThePlotaGuy7]

@@thevioletbee5879 Sorry, I changed it. Grammar is not my strong suit.

[@thevioletbee5879]

@@ThePlotaGuy7 I mean it wasn’t incorrect grammar. I was just pointing out that it is something that’s happened recently.

[@wakkaseta8351]

Eh, not all that different from lefties judging films on if they are progressive enough and looking for anything they can accuse of being "problematic".

[@Svafne]

Few people know that the M on Mario's hat doesn't stand for "Mario", it stands for "Marx"! D: Ever wondered where the King went??

[@Keihzaru]

Really says a lot about the right wing that their entire personality now is complaining or bragging about mid movies for children.

[@khadeejones1136]

It's surreal, it feels like they're parodying themselves. The absolute lack of self awareness is what really drives it home for me

[@Pussyrepelent]

Bro why does everything have to come down to “this side sux” can’t we just laugh at idiocy

[@Keihzaru]

@@Pussyrepelent Felt called out?

[@zkoopa4445]

And you're no saint either considering you're taking something a small uneducated group of people said and you're generalizing an entire side of a country to make them look like clowns. But it's no surprise, everyone with a political view also has a hankering for watching division and hating the other side just because they think different.

[@invalid_420]

​@@Pussyrepelent i mean the idiocy is coming almost entirely from the right so

[@LauraGrrrr5370]

Imagine being such a baby that you have to drink a beer called "Ultra Right"

[@bakuganrex5557]

They’re literally making the “beta male drinking soy milk” stereotype FOR THEMSELVES!!! 💀

[@DissedRedEngie]

I wonder how the freedom phone is doing.

[@aquabluerose7734]

​@@bakuganrex5557 I legitimately thought Ultra Right beer was a parody until looking it up 💀 seriously The Onion is gonna have to step up their game to outdo this 💀

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

I don't want to imagine that it'll give me depression.

[@Nhblubird]

I want a beer called "Ultra Wrong", just to show how hardcore I am.

[@studiogimli7645]

the whole peach thing baffles me lol, all she does is wear a jumpsuit because she was just racing and holds a halberd for like 5 seconds and then gets captured

[@ms.bunniesarecute2287]

Tim Pool complaining about powerups when he has to use a beanie to hide his bald head is hilarious. But he complains about absolutely everything so I didn't expect anything different. "It's not me, its...everyone else" Pim Tool

[@earnthis1]

Right wing strategy: Call things woke, spread outrage, act like victims, and take your money.

[@ricsto9111]

sounds like the left wing who call things all sorts of -cist or -phobe, spread outrage, act like victims, take your money and want to imprison everyone who doesn't join their cultist group.

[@MrDadeadone]

Left wing strategy: Call thing racist, sexist, homophobic, ableist, fatphobic, transphobe, spread outrage, act like victims and take your money. See? Both sides have grifters and this tribal mentality is dumb as hell

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

Right wing reactionaries are calling the movie anti-woke actually, not woke.

[@lizflaherty1374]

Idk, representing the ruler of a kingdom as the confident, pompous character while representing the small plumber who jumps and says “wahoo” as a slapstick silly guy just seems like common sense. It’s not really subversive, it’s just kinda what you’d expect from the few basic character traits that existed in the franchise since the start.

[@lizflaherty1374]

The funny thing is, many people who love films like Alien and Terminator 2 would hate the films if they came out today. The only reason they don’t is because when those films came out there were no grifters going off about how women being action heroes is “woke”.

[@trevorstrickland364]

Agreed

[@renaigh]

I hope they make a Woke adaptation of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory where the Oompa Loopas unionise.

[@drnanard9605]

The fuck is even remotely "woke" in the movie? The princess not being kidnapped? That's it? Don't let these guys learn about Super Princess Peach on the DS, they're gonna freak out.

[@SheezyBites]

But that's fine because it's a woman having emotional swings, and the actual problem is they hate women.

[@thevioletbee5879]

Spoiler alert: She actually does get kidnapped.

[@drnanard9605]

@@thevioletbee5879 no?

[@thevioletbee5879]

@@drnanard9605 Did you not watch the movie? Bowser literally threatens to murder Toad unless she agrees to the wedding. Yeah she mostly escaped on her own, but she was still very much kidnapped.

[@drnanard9605]

@@thevioletbee5879 she decided to accompany him to the wedding just to buy time and never actually intended to do as Bowser said. At no point was Peach captive. It was all planned out. Literally the first thing she says, 2 seconds after following Bowser, is that she will never marry him, and then she makes King Bob-Omb explode and freezes Bowser. Like you would have to not pay attention to the movie at all to think that she was kidnapped at any point in the movie. You'd also need to entirely redefine the word "kidnapping".

[@rachelwindsor850]

I know this video is 4 months old already but can I point out that, within the traditional perception of race categories, Italians were not seen as "white"? Only the northern most inhabitants of Italy were seen as sufficiently "white".

[@arnoarno1092]

“In terms of how woke the movie is I’d give it a six!” Is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard

[@-tera-3345]

"Woke" reached the point of being a completely meaningless term long ago, but of all things to cause a total meltdown and prove that even the people obsessed with complaining about "wokeness" can't agree on what it actually entails, I wouldn't have expected it to be the Mario movie.

[@SheezyBites]

A woman kills the Witch King, what a Mary Sue!

[@mickeyg7219]

True, they can't even properly define it. But that's not something new, reactionaries have been known to be against things they don't know, like communism, socialism, CRT etc. They either can't define the term or their definition is taken from an obviously biased source.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Honestly i thought it would limit to lightyear and strange world

[@Advent3546]

I cannot imagine the kind of tragedy that had to happen in your life that makes you obsess over wokeness in everything around you.

[@thevioletbee5879]

They saw a black person one time and they were never the same.

[@spacebassist]

@@thevioletbee5879 they listened to one rap song and made it their entire identity that they couldn't drop the n-bomb

[@jonismiff]

From what I remember peach was appointed by the toads to be princess. Like she says “and when I was ready, they made me their king.” So maybe it was democracy? Like I know she’s a princess but who’s to say they didn’t elect their princess? 😅 I overthought this.

[@redking36]

That's what I got out of it too. I don't really know why they appointed her, but they did. It seems a bit strange to appoint an orphan you found in the wilderness as your ruler, but I guess it does seem kind of mystical now that I say it out loud.

[@jonismiff]

@@redking36 I mean as long as she was appointed in some democratic fashion then that’s democracy to me lmao

[@davzinzan]

"that's why top gun did so well" Did these clowns have to argue that avatar was "anti-awake" or whatever as well?

[@trevorstrickland364]

What's really strange to me is that they really enjoyed top gun despite the fact that it had a female pilot.