Knights of the Round Table VS The Argonauts

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[@TsiahIV]

This really shouldn't need clarification, but Achilles IS a Neo Argonaut in FGO. Hence him being part of the "Argonauts" Fate wise.

[@bowenmosie]

This was a fun video to watch cant wait to see Roman, Egyptian, Chinese and Japanese Servants fight the Argonauts

[@ProtectorKelvin]

Battles between servants are cool but I'd like to see a battle between the strongest masters. The crypters, fate zero masters and stay night masters

[@bowenmosie]

@@ProtectorKelvin danm you have a good point lets wait and see

[@ProtectorKelvin]

Yup, let's see

[@ShinyAzzy]

​​@@ProtectorKelvin The crypters solo even if you take their servants and give the others their servants lol we have daybit here literally summoning alien servants from outer space that is capable of beating a high lvl divine spirit such as koyanskaya light and she is stronger than Tez and Wodime is stronger than that capable of beating Zeus (10%) and making Zeus acknowledge him as an equal and literally spamming anti planet lvl meteors.

[@ahkilleuskosmos6836]

This battle is not a question of whether or not the Round Table can win, it’s a question of can Jason throw harder than Heracles can carry.

[@theifzelnite1087]

Oh thanks for that. I know imagine Hercules using Achilles as a bloody projectile. 😂

[@potatoexe5410]

Nah Herakles gets downed by Rhongo, Excalibur, or Longinus

[@raikoedgymoto]

Tf do you mean Jason's back hurts from practicly carrying everyone in LB5.1 If anything he's the one who carries 😂

[@DR_REDACTED]

BRO💀

[@yujiandou4658]

@@potatoexe5410 good luck doing that when the twins could blitz distract long enough for herc to merk.

[@raymondyongho5757]

Now I want to see these two factions clash in a Death Battle. Funny how Jason isn't a part of the fight despite being Captain of the Argonauts. The man truly is the Buggy of his own crew.

[@m.k.o7610]

So true

[@saberalter1586]

Medea was in the team so Jason wanted to stay away from this battle. Some "accident" or friendly fire would have occurred XD

[@m.k.o7610]

@@saberalter1586 so true

[@Aaron-ft5nk]

People can say whatever they want but Buggy is still an Emperor and Jason is still the leader of an OP Greek heroes crew.

[@uliseslopez4639]

no fair man with Jason's management Argonauts would have won quite easily no cap.

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

Powerscaling in Fate is very complicated as is, but it gets even more difficult with servants because their current power source dictates a lot of what they can and can't do so it's all pretty situational

[@thirdplanet4471]

I'm still trying to understand how age of gods and mystery plays into a fight

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

@@thirdplanet4471 basically there was a lot more magic around during the age of gods, so heroes that come from that age tend to be stronger than heroes that don’t, at least in average cases. But the knights of the round table are far from average, at least with a decent source of magic to draw from.

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

Who summons them? How are they summoned? Where are summoned? Why are they summond? When are they summoned? What are they summoned with? Who are they summoned with? The summon alone already is complicated on how powerful they are & what they can or can't do.

[@nightowl548]

@@ShiraFuyu2022Or Dantes, who kinda says "fuck you" to that particular structure.

[@Luzhong_editz]

​@@creaturetransylvania8943pretty sure only the first 5 os the only questoun needed to be asked

[@erenkruger5760]

Achilles being the MVP as always

[@christiansmith1895]

What else in New?

[@imaginebreaker7777]

Best rider ftw

[@christiansmith1895]

@@ahkilleuskosmos6836 well yeah but personally I think the Lion king and The Knights of the Round would be to much for even these argonauts. I mean they did get a huge power up with Achilles but most likely In 8/10 the knights would win if you used all the knights of the round table vs all Argonauts not Neo. The Argonauts would probably get slaughtered due to shared numbers. I mean Mordred And Perceval are not slouches. Gawain and Lancelot would most likely survive a while. But Lion King would most likely be the MVP. I don’t think a Partically charged rhongomyniad would kill the Lion king. A lot of the Knights of the round table is Not stupid by any means. If they had Avalon and There Gifts this would even be a fight.

[@tactlesstactician]

everyone gangsta till i tickle his heel

[@erenkruger5760]

@@christiansmith1895 Common Achilles W

[@nervmeister]

I’d like to think Asclepius was an X-factor that majorly shifted things in his team’s favor. Any seasoned RPG vet will tell you that a “white mage” build with healing expertise is a cornerstone you want to have in your party.

[@TheWcasey]

Divinty is always such a tough thing to overcome unless your also divine or specifically optimized to counter it. Great vid and I could really picture things as they were described.

[@potatoexe5410]

Of which the KoR do have counters to it

[@adraxer1365]

Nobu: DIVINITY YOU SAY?!

[@jetpower6601]

All that devastation and the only ones left standing are achilles and Jason. What a battle!

[@IAintGonnaDrawHeliohi]

Didn't Heracles still should have more than 1 life?

[@jetpower6601]

@@IAintGonnaDrawHeliohi I thought rhongomyniad took all his remaining lives.

[@IAintGonnaDrawHeliohi]

@@jetpower6601 Yeah. But shouldn't it cost only 1 life?

[@jetpower6601]

@@IAintGonnaDrawHeliohi strong attacks destroy multiple lives. This was made clear when in the original fate route, caliburn deleted something like 6 lives from heracles. LB5 spoilers, artemises cannon can completely delete all 12 of hercs lives

[@volcanicz6739]

​@@IAintGonnaDrawHeliohi if the attack is strong enough, it can take down multiple lives

[@erdenesaikhanamgalanhyiag8351]

One of Jason's skills (inspiration at death's door) that should increase the survivability of the Argonauts

[@nofxk]

HE BACK AT IT AGAIN IT'S HIM-SIAH IV

[@zacharyt.2694]

If you added Ruler Karl to the Paladins then they would have a good chance of winning combined with whatever Roland's three miracles could potently do, some possible examples being turning day to night and maybe getting rid of the Knights of the Rounds' blessings if they have them. Durandal could also probably block Rhongomyniad at least once since Hector's Durindana can block Artemis's arrows in LB5 and it turned into Durandal.

[@zacharyt.2694]

@Ren_Suzugamori He uses Archer Herc, so he is not just using FGO servents.

[@zacharyt.2694]

@Ren_Suzugamori Nine Lives is not a Saber NP but rather at a technique he can use with any weapon, although it was originally a bow. Herc also always has God Hand no matter the class, with the exception of Alcidies, who is an Avenger-Archer hybrid. Even then, he gets King's Order to replace it in order to represent his 12 Labors.

[@_Koyomi_]

Another issue is that we don't know a lot about the Paladins in Fate. And there are significantly less of them that have been properly introduced especially in comparison to the Argonauts and Knights of the Round.

[@allthatishere]

Rhongomyniad even that strong? Why doesn't the Lion King just use Excalibur?

[@_Koyomi_]

@@allthatishere She doesn't have Excalibur. Bedivere didn't return it to the lake, so Merlin transformed Excalibur into his metallic arm

[@banbowyt8945]

Imagine if The Lion King won and Jason walk it and used Astrastope Argo and summoned everyone back. I mean they will agree to help finish what they started.

[@yep1486]

Jason = The cooler Mercy

[@ShinyAzzy]

Gets one shotted by Rhongominiad* Getting lion king here is a mistake as she is literally one shotting the whole team her holy judgement which is a weaker version of rhongominiad alone is enough to one shot all of them as it is more powerful than the strongest of NP by a THOUSAND times which includes EA, Excalibur and Vishavi shakti.

[@ijustwanttowatchtheworldbu4664]

​​​@@ShinyAzzy Source: Trust me bro

[@ShinyAzzy]

@@ijustwanttowatchtheworldbu4664 This is what happens when you don't play the game don't say shit like this when you don't know shit about fate 🗿 It is stated in the camelot singularity where rhongominiad magical output was a THOUSAND TIMES stronger than the STRONGEST of NP used by SERVANTS.

[@ijustwanttowatchtheworldbu4664]

@@ShinyAzzy alright boy, if that's what you want to play then so be it From the Type-Moon wiki: "Rhongomyniad: The Lance that Shines to the Ends of the World is the Holy Lance of King Arthur. An anchor of storm that fastens the planet together. A Divine Construct armament. Rhongomyniad is regarded as the "spear of the end", the light of destruction coming down from the heavens, whose power is said to *rival the Holy Sword.* " "Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory is the strongest and most majestic holy sword that symbolizes King Arthur. As that which can be called the physical actualization of her ideals and the symbol of her heroism, *it is her greatest and most powerful Noble Phantasm. Its power is said to be rivaled by Rhongomyniad.* " " *According to Dr. Roman* , the magical energy of this attack had a value of over 3,000,000 even though the highest-ranked Noble Phantasms *usually* only range between 1000 and 3000." These words are from Dr. Roman, who at that point is nowhere near Solomon level, especially in knowledge, what he know is base on what he studied or have at Chaldea. Not to mention, the wording are fucking vague af, but of course idiot like you would take it at face value to further your agenda "...the Holy Sword Construct measures "Threats to Human History" and, depending on the level of the threat, the sword gets supplied energy from the Earth's core. It is the Earth's defensive ability, the autopurifactory activity, like a white blood cell." Excalibur strength will increase with the level of threat it face, which mean, using your logic for a second, it would increase it power equal to your supposedly 'stronger than EA' lance, speaking of which. "Sword of Rupture, Ea, is the *most powerful Noble Phantasm contained in the Gate of Babylon and the pinnacle of all those used by Servants.* " "...He claims that only Saber and her Excalibur are worthy of fighting it during the Fifth Holy Grail War." "Simply looking upon the weapon causes Shirou's senses to cease completely, *and it makes even the greatest Noble Phantasms look like third-rate weapons.* " Oh would you look at that, another comment about 'Greatest Noble Phantasms', surely there must be a mistake as Rhongomyniad is 'above the highest ranked Noble Phantasms.' Oh well, and here's the finishing touch. 『Enuma Elish』 Rank: EX NP Type: Anti-World 『Excalibur』 Rank: A++ NP Type: Anti-Fortress 『Rhongomyniad』 Rank: A++ NP Type: Anti-Fortress

[@vincentshadetree]

Damn that was good, like really good! And let it never be said that you don't know your Fate lore, cause that was a fight I'd love to see animated 😎

[@tyty12345678910]

Here here. I concurrently agree

[@prodbykalil2146]

I definitely agree with this one. Seeing both Factions going all out would be a masterpiece

[@user-eh4gf2ok7x]

The way you described the battle made it very easy for me to picture the entire thing in my head. 10/10 would recommend 💯

[@jacobmcgee2053]

Banger, but also ranking Archer NPs based on uniqueness would be great. Chakrams, infinite swords, sheep, dolphins, slingshot, planets, water guns, fists, lightning, rice bags, eye twists, rainbows, what archers aren’t unique?

[@joshuamanlapaz9380]

Dont forget ancient japanese cringe(sei), origami and watermelon

[@the315artist3]

You're really good at telling these stories! I really hope you do more, I loved that you gave a detailed setting, that you made the warriors equal in what they can and can't do, the fact that you named every attack and how they worked out and not only where you breaking down each play! I loved it please more!

[@demod2080]

I love the mental image of Achilles saying something cold and quiet as he secures the win with his beheading shield throw. Great fight you made, look forward to seeing others

[@elgatto3133]

rule breaker was clutch this fight, instantly fodderized gawain

[@wendya881]

After that, the rest of the fight was just folded Gawain struggling.

[@_Koyomi_]

Yeah, Medea is honestly goated

[@blizzard1198]

​@@wendya881 She really did him dirty

[@macywhetten821]

I like how more than half the round table isn't even in this fight.😂😂

[@texzoc5560]

i mean argonaut have like almost hundred of crew that isnt in this fight ( idk is it correct since i just got it from Wikipedia )

[@ericx6969]

speed blitz by dioscuri

[@rajaiskandar2247]

Man, seeing you Narrate the fight just makes me excited. I can't for Nasu to add Meleager, Theseus and Peleus. Meleager and Theseus would busted, since both of them were greatly compared to Heracles in terms of feats. Meleager was known for his immortality and Theseus, I don't really have to explain. Also, Palamedes and Lamorak would be interesting. Since the first was known for defying destiny by slaying the Questing Beast and Merlin himself stated that he saw into the future that Percival would be the one to slay it. Palamedes having an Anti-Destiny/Anti-Fate NP would be sick! The second one, Lamorak died while fighting against Gawain, Mordred, Agravain and Gaheris all of them at the same time. He lasted for a while against them and it took a surprise attack from Mordred to be able to take Lamorak down. He was attacked by them because he slept with their mother Morgan. Although, he was mostly seduce by her.

[@jamaldavis3224]

Achilles always coming in with the clutch. Peak W

[@namelessvoid9725]

@Paradoxymoronic ACHILLES W!!!!!

[@TheOGCoocl]

If we replace heracles’ godhand with his 12 labors phantasm or possibly give him godhand and 12 labors which he would probably have access to at full power, he dog walks this team solo, not really, but he does way too much probably killing 90% of the round table without too much effort.

[@pv7137]

i mean mordred herself bodied astolfo, sieg, and frankenstein

[@KellyCalKelsey]

For real for real, that and the fight between Achilles and the 3 Redsketeers were two of my favorite fights in the anime.

[@ch0ven]

Imagine a Fate series like Apoc but with four teams instead of two and they are: Knights of the Round Table, Twelve Paladins of Charlemagne, Hassasin and Argonauts

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

You mean Hassan's?

[@ch0ven]

@@creaturetransylvania8943 Hassasin is the name of their order, all Hassans a part of Hassasin(exept No-name Hassan)

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

@@ch0ven So you are talking about the Hassan's. I have never heard them be called the Hassassin. I do know their organization is called the Hashshashin.

[@ch0ven]

@@creaturetransylvania8943 Romanaized version of their oficial persian name is Ḥaššāšīn, where š can be read as either s or sh so both names are right(I wrote the name wrong in my previous comment it must be Hassasin there, with only one s in the end)

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

@@ch0ven It's more easy to just stick with original way to spell their name or just call them the Hassan's. But back to your original comment,as cool as they are they don't really stand a chance against them,even if they tried to manipulate how the flights go they would still end up as causality's when the others groups clash because of the sheer amount of power that they unleash & best case scenario a good amount of them are left with only like three left of one other group,those remaining opponents will have because aware of the Hassan's & force a open fight & in that they don't really stand a chance & those remaining foes will most likely be the most powerful from their group.

[@PhantomNull13]

Morderd feeling mad disrespected? Sounds about right.

[@mikununi-vers]

I hope someone stumbles upon this and animates it. Cause this what if is so good

[@xrdpiratejames3187]

To be honest, and to put my two cents into it, we're talking about sane Herc. Like I could easily see him guild the other members to victory. But that's it, appreciate the attention to argonauts there a pretty underrated team if you take out the main hitters

[@maliklofton9148]

You did a good job with your description of the battle. I was able to follow along and envision everything, and it all made sense

[@iexist2145]

Achilles always been the goat he my top ten favorite servants along with heracles being the goat aswell

[@uliseslopez4639]

man of culture

[@multiversetheory3231]

Man's got the vibe check on lock, thanks for the video

[@knightofthelake8112]

The celtic warriors vs the knights of the round table Cu alter Scathach Fionn Diarmuid Fergus Medb Anne and Mary VS Saber artoria Lancelot Gawain Mordred Tristan Percival Agravain

[@Knightfall138]

Divinity often a problem too 😂and have you tried any servant skills and abilities

[@fgostoryteller2168]

I feel if the knights could have their Camelot then Medea should have her temple

[@blizzard1198]

The one in stay night?

[@Youngman191]

This is a great video. T I saw your videos some years I can’t really remember and this is a testament to how far your scripting skills have come along with research taking into account servant skills while keeping them in character along with knowledge begin a very important part of the fight in general. T I’m very proud to call myself a fan of your channel

[@Youngman191]

I’m not to into tsukihime but try a group from there(if any) versus a group from the grand order cast

[@Youngman191]

Ex the 13 dead apostles verse the crypters

[@demarcusgoodgoods6450]

Medea is a beast for someone who doesn't physically fight... love her. Shes the bestest

[@JiryStark]

I have to disagree. Rhongo CAN'T be stopped by a shield with its built in invul pierce. The second Achilles uses his shield to try and block it, it's game over for him or at least he'd be super f'd up.

[@ericx6969]

knights winning only if longinus

[@MrDerpyCakePlays]

Enjoyed the video and the way you made it

[@84ganta]

i was about to comment something but then i remembered that im greek-irish so im biased af... i love diving in in that universe,fate is kindom hearts for adults at this point and im here for it.

[@alainblandi2885]

Now do that but put Saber with Avalon, but also give Heracles EVERYTHING he technically has

[@zico739]

Why would anyone think the Knights for the Round Table were over the Argonauts? Greek Myth beats anything else in Western mythos.

[@mochii813]

Artoria is just better than the Greek jobbers fr

[@roftar]

What makes you think that?

[@promc2890]

Comparing irl myths to fate lore is stupid. Excalibur literally killed the being that wiped out the entire greek pantheon in Fate.

[@chadachi3970]

Even though Jason wasn't here for obviously being physically pretty weak, he is still incredibly strong as a leader and his special abilities. Jason can summon up nearly the entirety of the Argonauts if he has good standing by using Astrápste Argo and can buff them with Conquering the Sea with Friends which specifically buffs Argonauts by crazy amounts. He also has Inspiration at Death's Door which pretty much allows him to avoid certain death and evade, so if he's ever in danger he can get out of it at least once. He's also best friends with Heracles, so you fuck with Jason then you get the rage filled monster coming at you lol

[@Sleepyduo38]

That would be fun to watch happen in a Grail Front or something similar to Fate/Apocrypha. Are you going to do a video on the scrapped routes and how Shirou and Rin's actions and abilities would be like? What course of action will each of them take each route? I feel like that would be an interesting video on Illya route, Caster route, Rider route and the others that I did not mention.

[@joshcooper467]

It legitimately frightens me to see how well the selected Knights did versus the Neo Argo. Granted everyone save for the Lion King was just a VERY skilled warrior and the Argo possessed divinity/age of gods level power... I can't even be mad about the result considering how much it took for both sides to even begin squaring up with each other. Well fought Argo, well fought. 👏 Imagine if they had a support Caster like Merlin... Though that would trivialize the fight all things considered. 😂

[@massimilianoreali4398]

If they had merlin would be a instant win for the knight not only merlin is a grand caster but he can summon the garden of avalon pratically nullifyng the switch on saber to lion king

[@dafazain5978]

As much as I like Neo Argo, most of the servant there is a fodder. Only Orion and Achilles are strong enough to win against round table knight

[@joshcooper467]

@@dafazain5978 no lie. Achilles hard carried in the fight in this vid. But that's how he be.

[@namelessvoid9725]

@@joshcooper467 Thats how he be!

[@HumanB312]

Merlin isn't a knight

[@JoyBoyGiorno]

W video per usual Tsiah

[@tonyinfinite5174]

More vids like this please Raikou's four Shitenno Vs The fairy knights

[@TsiahIV]

I'm down for this actually but it would have to be after LB6 comes out. Haven't read it yet

[@tonyinfinite5174]

@@TsiahIV Oh I thought you did since you seem to heard what happened to Tristan in LB6

[@Kez_DXX]

My favorite part about this matchup was Tristan's commentary about how sad everything is.

[@satsuki_171]

Wasn't expecting this

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

The only problem with this battle is that it favours Gawain since it's daytime. Caenis however is literally getting shafted without her field advantage. She should have used her seafarring authority to transport near water or use the water she summons to empower herself. I wonder if Caenis merely being on a battlefield with water nearby would have empowered her enough to force the Lion King to deal with her directly, Lancer to Lancer.

[@rednaxela5960]

This is a very either way fight, I think that the setting is very important too. In a more city-like setting the many ranged attackers of the argonauts would gain advantage, however this xan also work to their disadvantage given how all of the knights noble phantasms are strong enough that it would ignore cover and have lits of range, and them having a false sense of security could easily allow them to be fataly injured from that. Then theres lancelot, who may actually benefit from structures more than the ranged attackers as he can utilize arondights bomb attack in a ranged scenario by throwing a bomed piece of a wall, use it to trap potential cover the argonauts would use, or maybe destroy a building and use the multiple pieces as a chain bomb increasing its potency, maybe even doing it as a last stand type attack. In a more open scenario the ranged attackers gain the attack advantage, but loose the defense advantage. The knights would be easier to hit if they have minimal cover and while the same can be said for the rangers of the argo they can be stalled much easier from their close range fighters. I see this video as more similar to scenario 2 where the ranged attackers dont have to engage and can pull off more support.

[@fluffdafire157]

I know she wouldn't do much but I'd love to see saber Jason vs Gareth in this match up

[@ryuhardt]

Overall very entertaining video, I actually got hyped listening through. However I feel like Herakles was pretty much wasted here. I think the decision to have him in his Archer class was a mistake, simply because we practically know nothing about his skills and noble phantasms in that class, only that he has God Hand and Nine Lives but that's the default equipment for Herakles in all his classes. Seeing Greece's strongest hero be basically side-tracked and do nothing but shoot volleys (which...well, never actually did much) felt lacking, and so I think that even his Berserker counterpart would do better here as he could actually go fight the knights with a weapon one-on-one. Nevertheless pretty cool stuff, ARGONAUTS TAKE THE WIN LESGOOOOOO

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

we actually do know what weapon he had other than nine and god he had the sash and the pelt but here he basically does nothing

[@ryuhardt]

@@durrangodsgrief6503 it's not confirmed that the Archer version has the pelt and the sash. This isn't Alcides, it's the real Archer Herakles

[@namelessvoid9725]

@Ryuhardt LESGOOOOOOO! lol

[@Fragesed]

Putting respect on the Shielder Class, too bad Achilles ended the life of another beastly beauty

[@phonegamer1587]

I would like to see an Ozymandias power and abilities explained, "don't sleep on ozymandias"

[@ryanbelcher25rb]

He ain't Muda that's for sure.

[@phonegamer1587]

True lol the king of kings certainly is up there in terms of regular servants

[@aki4768]

Bro, Ozy's on Gilgamesh's level and his Ramesseum Tentyris is hella busted too. Also his NP has anti-purge defenses.

[@xrdpiratejames3187]

This finna be so entertaining

[@nikamoreillus661]

Shit just popped up in my recommended and I won’t lie, I have no clue why I watched the entire vid 💀 my brain went blank lol.

[@GreyLeo]

Yeah we need this animated

[@ranonjyke53]

I liked how you made this into a story but I can't agree with you on the outcome. Lion King alone would beat all the Argos.In Camelot she could use an attack that has 1000 - 3000 × more magical energy than top ranked Noble Phantasms which include the anti fortress photon ray,Vasavi Shakti and Excalibur Morgan. So her regular Rhongomiad(Lancer Artoria's output) use would be 1000-3000 not 3 to 4. Her Rhongomiad's would be much stronger if she's using her max output instead of Lancer Artoria's max. She can make barriers that can block 2 Dendera Bulbs so nothing the Argos have should be enough to kill her. Using Lancer Artoria or Saber Alter would make it a closer fight

[@firexgaming6682]

I can agree. The knight’s of the round table should of had a higher chance even though they are still missing some of the members.

[@ranonjyke53]

@@firexgaming6682 true they had higher quality fighters even without Lion King

[@aki4768]

Yeah he shouldve used Lancer Artoria instead of Lion King/Goddess Rhongomyniad.

[@chavaspada]

Achilles >>>>> Lion King. Hector's spear is equal to Excalibur and that >> Rhongo, Achilles wins.

[@ONW4V3R]

@@chavaspada no it's not lmao

[@alexparkins1409]

I have a question about Heracles wouldn't he have both god hand as well kings order it's not really a case where he has one or the other since kings order is he's labours and god hand was he's resurrection into a god after he completed his labours so in this battle where no one nerfs he's powers wouldn't he have both?

[@massimilianoreali4398]

If i am not wrong kings order was a modification of god hand when the grail corrupted him or could be because he not already made all of his labours when he was on the argo

[@smugtacular9759]

I think the main cutting point against the KoTR is speed. Like yeah anime stuff equalizes speed but Atalanta, Achilles, Herc, and Caenis (situationally) are so freaking fast and aggressive. They have a gery good shot of speed blitzing and throwijg momentum to the Greeks from the get go. Then Medea doing Rap God in the back with rapid divine words

[@klove5974]

Not Rap god😂😂

[@NerosHusband]

MY BOY ACHILLES

[@evoction]

Btw, how strong is charlemagne in fate lore since charlemagne irl is called the father of Europe so I imagine him to be pretty strong

[@thefreaks8926]

Saber Charlemagne is a pretty strong servant, and ruler Charlemagne is really strong.

[@ii3lazelordz267]

Saber Charlemagne is compared to "top servants" within Fate Extra, so he'd be on par with anyone in stay night He's a very powerful servant

[@young_dieg0301]

​@@ii3lazelordz267 He's not touching Gil, Salter or normal Artoria.

[@young_dieg0301]

strong enough to match Karna in CQC and in NP battle

[@Soluxya]

Saber Charlie matches up against the likes of Karna, Scathach, Altera and others. Ruler Karl is probably one of the strongest Servants before any of the Lostbelt shenanigans.

[@carlossique9604]

Heracles being an absolute bro to Achilles

[@kingneteoraire]

W vid man!! also common W for Achilles!!

[@yoomene]

Great video as allways , but i might think that one hit on Ryongomidiad would be enought end the battle Achilles being the wildcard as allays

[@renton0915]

Basically, the Knights of the round table are practically at a peak level that they have to match off with Age of Gods' heroes. Plus power level isn't everything. Its versatility of their NP. E.g. is Emiya killed Hercules 6 times in a row with his Kanshou & Byakuya & these guys aren't peak level weapons. He strengthened them enought to make Divinity not matter. The Knights of the Round has a number of Divine weapons in their arsenal so that's an advantage on their part.

[@thirdplanet4471]

Have you ever thought of doing fate servants vs characters from other franchises? For example, Gilgamesh vs Reinhard (dies irae)

[@kevingiron2848]

Awesome scenario, would love to see a don’t sleep on video for Achilles

[@TsiahIV]

its already out

[@husseneluis9163]

Make a video about the fuyuki war but every servant is the strongest version of themselves like salter, hercules alter, and the masters are servants too.

[@bowenmosie]

Merlin coming back from peeking into other reality Merlin: what the hell happen here ?!?!

[@jamesknott5255]

I just find it hilarious that the Lion King is using Rhongomyniad instantaneously, and with no apparent build/charge up time, and evidently no one can see that it’s about to hit 😂

[@keekee6835]

We need more vs my boy💯

[@Nasah-uy6ep]

In terms of personality and backgrounds, can we consider Kirei Kotomine and Raiden from MGS and MGR similar? Both of them are child assassin, bouth of them never lived their live befour meeting certen character, Kirei met Gil, and Raiden mest Solid, bouth of them are born murdurer and an outside impuls awake that murderous side, Kirei side was awoke by Angra-Manyu, Raiden side was awoke mostly by Sam and Monsoon.

[@Greennaris_Rater]

Seems kiiiinda ufair to me. I mean, some of knights even didn't have a chance against that 3/4 divine team. I also don't know about Percival too much, so i didn't get the thing about him with Mordred breaking through the wave. Is his fantasm the spear which pierced Jesus? Possibly have more uses than... I guess if u would to add somebody to the knights, such as Agravain, things would be more fair. Adding Galahad would result in banger and even possibly the win of Round Table, but we don't know much about him in his saber class, and him being shielder would grant win to the knights (if his shield works like Mash's, i don't really know that)

[@yandereneko5523]

Great video. Love the Fate/ series.

[@krism.6598]

We all know Medea would instantly backstab Jason for her precious Saber-chan.

[@bingobongo73]

Great fight even with archer Heracles being an odd character to power scale since he doesn't actually have feats outside of alcides though most of the archer feats should be comparable. I do think Heracles could face tank a full force rhongo and walk it off with a life or battle continuation propping him up since in LB5 he does apparently take 2 full powered shots from Artemis's anti world noble phantasm but thats kinda just guess work since god hand doesn't exactly show how many lives each beam attack takes from him but yeah the argonauts should win by virtue of greater versatility among the fighters and Heracles and Achilles being near the top of heroic spirits as a whole with only king arthur managing to be at that level among her knights. funnily enough Heracles could be considered a member of both parties as Arthurian mythos created Marmyadose to link king Arthur to the legendary Hercules though we don't know how a saber class herc would go about things

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

archer her is stronger than his altered variant all there things Alcides can do herc can do better on top of hitting harder

[@kylekgh]

"gwain from the back" as Riley would say. "pause"

[@absoluteangel2962]

I’m surprised you didn’t use Heracles is Pandora noble phantasm to steal away Rhonghomyniad

[@TsiahIV]

Archer herc doesn't have pandora. That move is unique to Alcides.

[@Crabwithshank]

avalon takes mana though- in her real life it did also achillies would functionally stall saber out indefinitely if i recall he does not fatigue, and also what round table member is denying the honorable duel NP he has

[@trixtheghostwalker6634]

I'm just gonna ask here the Avenger class servants( no summer variants) vs the pseudo servants

[@kashinovirus7278]

They look like football teams.

[@gneoz7238]

If the Argonauts play more defensively I think they would have the advantage. They out range the Knights. Atalanta, Heracles archer, and Medea would just barrage them with range attacks until the knights are worn out. While the speedsters would use their overwhelming speed to defend from the knights' charges and Asclepius would keep the entire team healthy. Tristan would not be able to defend by itself so he would need help from Gawain's noble phantasm. Rhongomydiad could breach through the defense but there is a cool down to it. The knights aren't weaker they just got outrange.

[@carlhenry3974]

Can't the lion king generate an entire army on par with servants? On top of that, the lion king really was'nt fast enough to dodge Achilles shield?

[@amaridawkins64]

Lion king had to be nerfed in order to have this out come. But given the circumstances that was in the videos theoretically this outcome could happen but my take is they don’t get past the walls of Camelot but it wouldn’t be fun that way.

[@yanyjc]

Damn, man, awesome video, even for you. You really know how to give personality to your videos, don't you? I kinda feel awkward about some things, though, and I want to put them here for you to read rather than just let them sit in my head. Why have Archer herc in? We only have a vague idea of his noble phantasms due to alcides being essentially an altered version, with his king's order being a deliberate cheat as compensation for losing nine lives, making it unclear which of those items he has an archer without it. You could've just used berserker herc to make it easier on yourself. As for avalon, that's a phantasm she can only have during her life or in the fate route. If you're worried about people complaining, then maybe do something like give her rhongomyniad as compensation as she did have it in life. I kinda was complaining in my head about cutting out gareth, agravain, and bedivere, but then I remembered you also cutted out the dioscuri and jason as well. (Plus, we really don't know much about agravian's abilities since he wasn't really used or given a spreadsheet.) Just promise you'll make an updated version once we see the rest of these two rosters be filled out? Still, great video man, keep them coming.

[@soralight_x]

Achilles turns into a Zombie! 😮

[@Tailong]

I was gonna say there is no way the Argonauts beat the Lion King, how are they gonna deal with Rhongo, and I applaud you this was satisfactory conclusion

[@evanbuckner4518]

Merlin or Galahad could have made this a sweep.

[@ashkirby8896]

Okay, but what would happen if the Knights Of The Red Branch, Knights Of The Round Table, 12 Paladins Of Charlemagne, and the Argonauts fought against each in a battle royale between each group of legendary heroes/knights?😄😏😎

[@richardwalker2881]

Let's see, oh wait, here we have the typical curbstomp, most of the Argonauts will die in the first few minutes, not only that, but if we allow both Medea and Merlin to get both groups to switch classes, it will still be a curbstomp, as it was stated that fate zero grail war servants were stronger than fsn grail war servants, which means it could be theoretical that berserker Lancelot was stronger than berserker Hercules, plus b Lancelot can actually steal of their weapons, plus there is gwain being their version of escanoir, him being the knight who can bring out the sun, plus artoria can gender switch into Arthur and use thee most powerful version of Excalibur to one hit ko all of thee Argonauts

[@raphaelannau5705]

Caenis with 2 kills go crazy

[@ddb9304]

Imagine this with Alcides............squashed completely. What about a KoTR vs Ozymandias And Gilgamesh? I wanna see Gawain squashed by the Sun Pharao so bad.

[@antonioro1229]

you know what i just thought about, that i think would be an interesting video to make. Who are some fictional candidates for the remaining grand servant classes that we don't know about. I noticed this on both a few of your videos and from other channels. Everyone when trying to guest who the next grand servant will be. They always try to use some real life example from history or ancient mythology. And as cool as that is and all. But how come no one has used any fictional character examples from the public domain. I mean we got foreigner class servants who are based (Mostly) on real life people having made a deal (Mostly) with various eldritch gods from the lovecraft mythos. We got two different versions of Paul Bunyon, We have Sherlock Holmes, and James Moritary. All of which are fictional or based on fictional characters. Hell we even got two different versions of vlad the impaler. One of which is based on his real life description, which the other one was based on the idea of his appearance from Dracula. Hell imagine grand berserker being Tarzan, or grand saber being Conan the Barbarian. Then on top of that. We got the alter ego class with them being a bunch of gods and other servants clamped into one package. so yeah Then you got all them psudo servants, artifical servants, one of whom i believe became the grand lancer, as from what I understand from people who explained it. Grand lancer wasn't even real to begin with, rather just a regular lancer that was altered by a number of factors before having the grand title slapped on to him in order to deal with the situation presented. And that kinda brings up another point. What about the remaining grand servants being alternate versions of current servants. I mean doing a video on current servants and characters who could potentially be a grand servant could be good right? I mean given that we have orion as a servant that is operated by artamis, only to learn that he had a grand servant form known as super orion. Are they the same person but from different points in their history, or are they from different realities. Grand Lancer is simiar as well. Having two different versions of himself being active. One as a grand, and the other as a normal servent. Plus we have all them other servants with alternate classes but are actually the same servant taken from different points of their history or from alternate realities. Could the remaining grands be an alternate version of an existing character. Like say grand saber being Merlin, or Roland. Then lastly you have the type-moon OG franchises such as melty blood and the original fate stay night. I mean with the number of characters that are original to type-moon themselves. I mean they included Shirou and Kiritsugu, along with Shiki Ryougi, and Acruaid as servants. I mean would it be strange if we find out that grand saber was actually a version of Shirou from one of the three Stay/Night timelines, or grand berserker being Gudako or some something. I mean, it's just a thought that I don't see being explored all that much.

[@ryusof6]

So Sad Percival didn't use his NP in this scenario. Just obliterated alongside Mordred from the Rhongominyad.

[@TsiahIV]

He did use his phantasm and the Lion king didnt even touch them. Caenis killed them. Were you listening?

[@ryusof6]

@@TsiahIV I did mostly confused. Thank you for replying and explain more detail ☺️.

[@TsiahIV]

thanks for watching

[@leaf1469]

How about Roman Rulers vs the Knights of the Round?

[@multiversetheory3231]

Bro how much will they nerf sun wokong when he gets into the game?

[@ThePaeppa]

I do kind of have to wonder Was the Herakles sacrifice really necessary there at the end? Would the shield have just gone up in flames if he didn't tank a hit then?... And would he have been able to finish Lion King off in the aftermath of Achilles getting offed instead of him, seeing as it was Lion Kings last charge of Rhongo and Herakles still had plenty of Nine Lives left

[@uliseslopez4639]

I thought Achilles was gonna save Herc with akhilleus kosmos, but Herc wouldn't have enough fire power , so this option wasn't all bad.

[@ThePaeppa]

@@uliseslopez4639 Not saying it was bad. Just asking if this was a feasible alternate

[@yacineidir7616]

The only x factor here is that sane hereclues. The only instance we have is from fate strange which isn't completed, but based on what he did to gil i bet he would blitz lion king

[@christianlarkin2632]

Ima need this animated

[@intellectual_69]

W video idea

[@MtnMedea]

7:04 I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE