Spinning-off of Spin-offs - Mega Man Battle Network Side Games

[@elevate07]

18:15 In Battle Network 3, Higsby charged a lady 100,000z for a Ratton chip she could've got for free. You should've known NumberMan was about the bag.

[@inconemay1441]

Wait when did this happen?

[@igodreamer7096]

damn hahahaahahaa

[@elevate07]

@inconemay1441 During the BubbleMan scenario Lan will volunteer to do the chores Mayl promised Higsby she'd do while she and Ms. Mari install her new internet enabled washing machine. One of the tasks is delivering a Ratton Chip to a customer hanging out in SciLab. And the customer will brag that she paid 100,000z for this chip because she only takes the best. SciLab area has Ratty viruses you can kill to get Ratton chips for free. Higsby and NumberMan just fleeced the f*ck out of that lady. I wonder if that's illegal somehow.

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

@@elevate07 maybe it was a premium edition one that acquiring it from a virus would not be enough

[@SDogo]

@@elevate07 Funny thing is. You can actually compare that with the actual "retro" market of games where a simple gba cart can cost you 3 kidneys.

[@qstmrk8004]

1:26 network transmission 24:12 ws 32:07 battle chip challenge 45:37 4.5 real operation

[@Rabbitlord108]

Thank you.

[@Exodia_Misogynist]

Now I understand why they are obscure lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kemix1006]

"Ah fuck it I'm too poor for this shit." Best way to sum up trying to play retro/old games on their intended consoles and in their intended ways.

[@ajflink]

Because some of them are so expensive that you'd get the same experience from being mugged and said mugger left a card saying: "I O U".

[@EpicGamerSetzuna]

​@ajflink Shoutout to trying to legitimately acquire PS2 survival horror game. Ain't no way I'm spending $1000 to play Rule of Rose

[@kemix1006]

@@EpicGamerSetzuna believe me, I'd go crazy if I had to spend 200+$ on a copy of Xenosaga Episode 3

[@EpicGamerSetzuna]

@@xbon1 Bait used to be believable

[@EpicGamerSetzuna]

@xbon1 Well, Rule of Rose is abandonware, the only people who benefit from buying a physical copy are the scalpers selling it for over $1000, not the devs, not the original studio. In fact, the original studio no longer exists, so the game will likely never be brought to light again outside of emulation.

[@ArleThePoss]

I love how the early Japan handheld competition was literally the same creators creations fighting each other.

[@amateraceon5202]

The best part of this video is John hearing the BN4 tournament music and getting immediate audio PTSD

[@orbmac]

I was laughing out loud xD

[@scoutmasterdemi]

Oh man, really appreciate the shout out in the first screen! Always love your content John, thanks for being a huge BN pillar : )

[@BaconPizzaWaffles]

HOLD UP. You're telling me they made an actual, proper game to use those physical battlechips with, and not just the lump of disappointment that was the PET toy, AND YOUR NAVI WAS AUTONOMOUS??? I spent years dreaming of that game existing! Why, Japan?! I had the chips! If they had just released it in the US, I would've been on that shit like white on rice!

[@OPLOmega]

The issue, you see, comes from the specific chips needed for this itself. The Chip Gate itself is only compatible with Battle Chips specifically made to work with the toy PET used in 4 & the Axess anime season. I might be miss remembering but only the Plug-In model got a US release? (in any case these sorts of toys would only ever see big success in Japan due to walkable cities making it simple to just find a place that sells toy accessories & card packs for shit)

[@ajflink]

Because marketing and sales people are dumb.

[@ajflink]

​@@OPLOmegaThe Advanced one from Battle Network 4 got released in the United States with the battle chips. I know because I had one as a kid. It probably doesn't work now.

[@NumberXIIIEdwin]

They actually had compatibility like this for 5 and 6 too, although they both needed their own versions of the Chip Gate. 5’s was closest to 4.5 where it turned the battles into a similar style where your Navi would move on its own while you focused on chips (I think they called it Operation Battle?). If I’m remembering right the data was left intact and translated in the US versions so if you manage to find a chip gate and its chips it should work. 6 removed the Operation Battle feature but it still let you slot in real chips during battles, but this is as hectic as it sounds since you’re still in full control of MegaMan. You once again have to buy a new kind of chip gate (dubbed the Beast Link Gate) but in exchange you got access to some pretty cool features including having a permanent Beast Out transformation just for having it plugged in. You could also use Navi Data chips in the post game to swap out playable Navis which also let you play as ProtoMan in 6. All of these features unfortunately got completely removed from the US versions.

[@kemix1006]

Funny enough they TRANSLATED ALL OF THAT CRAP THAT WAS ON THE BN4 CARTS! We never got the chip gate so we could never play it, but if you had a japanese chip gate GUESS WHAT, YOU COULD PLAY THE BN4 VERSION IN ENGLISH!

[@TheAzulmagia]

Knowing John's luck, Capcom will revive both Battle Network and Star Force as soon as he's done reviewing both. And then Shanghai.EXE and ChronoX will also finish. And then Inafune will make his own Battle Network spin-off. The ride will never end! 4.5 felt a lot better to me with the PvP mod that also restored normal gameplay and added some chips from BN6 and passives to each Navi. The base game is way too vanilla with what each Navi does. Also, I can't believe John forgot about the fourth female Navi in the series. Even if you never fight her and she is a plot twist. (Redacted) erasure!

[@ma.2099]

Is that the number one net navi from megaman 3? The final secret boss fight I think! Idr

[@TheAzulmagia]

@@ma.2099 Iris.

[@kakizakichannel]

​@@TheAzulmagiaI-Iris! What's going on? This can't be happening! I don't want to go on.... What am I fighting for???????

[@La_Espada_Sin_Nombre]

I mean, to be fair, Shanghai is already completed, it even has the post game area and all.

[@KaySaidTwice]

@@ma.2099 Fyi, Serenade is officially stated to "transcend gender", being equally male and female.

[@geistgrace6452]

Heads up for those curious. All the story modes in BCC end with a boss fight against Bass. And there's also a special 100 gauntlet to fight against Bass GS. Both of which give you his Navi chip and despite what you'd think, he's honestly not that good. Like, 7/10 at best. *Edit: I should clarify. The Story mode fight just gives you Bass normal. The 100 gauntlet gives you Bass GS. On top of it being 100 in a row, you have to complete previous gauntlets too. I believe it goes 10-20-50 then 100

[@Q-gf8vb]

I loved BCC. John just didn't cheese the battles well enough. Elemental ball trap chips absolutely destroy the elemental chip users. I found that out when I was like 12..

[@AnAverageGoblin]

you know when you're alone and trying to blast out a fart and you have to get into a posture to force it out? thats what Megaman's battle stance in Network Transmission looks like

[@JohnelLance]

As a Digimon fan I hear Wonder Swan and break out in hives mumbling about "Milleniummon" and "Grandfather paradoxes"; so good to hear at least the Battle Network Wonder Swan game isn't being presented as canon to the main series.

[@Segadud]

you can't forget the universe hopper himself, aka ryo

[@Exodia_Misogynist]

Digimon x Megaman Battle Network crossover when?

[@leonk9026]

God chip challenge....I still remember spending my OWN money as a kid to get me and my best friend a copy for Christmas when I saw it at a pawnshop. What a Christmas that was lmao

[@Carlet_S]

Finally, someone sees how far ahead of its time (derogatory) Battle Chip Challenge is!

[@Q-gf8vb]

Predicted gacha and idle games. Inti Creates.. I kneel

[@Atmatan]

Sad fact is that, like many idle games, there's actually reasonable potential baked underneath a crusty loaf of burnt gross.

[@ziqi92]

53:31 Don’t know why, but the way you said “Just kill me now!” had me wheezing.

[@Parugraph]

4.5 also has a mod that allows you to play it as a regular battle network game where you control the navi with the D pad.

[@crypticDJ]

ring entering her operator into a tournament against her will when her pace maker is exclusively managed by her is some next level attempted murder.

[@jgamefactory]

Shadowman actually is in the first battle network game as a hidden boss in the undernet. He is a pain in the butt because he will murder you in like 2 or 3 hits unless you have maxed out your health and even then he will kill you in like 5.

[@knijohn3581]

You are correct, but the BN post games are sometimes seemingly non-canon and don't really mesh with the main story (like Bass being present in the first game or HubBatch just lying around in random places or heck, Shadowman again not being recognized in BN2 despite being in the BN1 post game)

[@jgamefactory]

@@knijohn3581 he also isn't recognized in bn5 when you get him as an ally.

[@TWLSpark]

​@@jgamefactory Lan and MegaMan do recognize Shadowman, but not Dusk (his operator) because they had never seen him before.

[@yousefslimani99]

Which means 1 attack= 200HP?

[@jgamefactory]

@yousefslimani99 if I remember correct when I fought him on original hardware he did around 160 per hit.

[@henke37]

The Battle Gate is emulated these days. And what wasn't mentioned is that there are three different gates, each with its own set of chips.

[@AniP_art]

Damn, I missed John shitting on gutsman and numberman... I mean John talking about battle network

[@qeridexis8604]

Okay, it was... a long time since I was subscribed but I wanna leave this comment now since there's at least a chance you will read it. Thank you for doing these videos! I know it's not like, the most healthy thing to do but... over the course of all the retrospectives, all of the videos... you kinda just get this weird sense of attachment, you know? Like, I am really happy whenever you uploaad because the way you write and edit these things make them weirdly personal. Like, yeah, there's ton of irony-posting, humour, ect. but at the same time its like, bot at all made in service to create something cynical or removed from humn experience of playing these games, you know? It just feels nice. Every joke, all the funny "oh god, they are doing this AGAIN", the analysis, it feels less like something that is done by a large comunity of cookie cutter "video essay" YTers but more personal and "down to earth"(?). Like, it feels more akin to hanging out with a friend who hangs out with you while talking about a game they really have lots of ppinions and feelings for. Like yeah, it is *kinda* parasocial and not really a good thing to do... but it still feels nice to see a video of yours and go "Hell yeah! New video from John!" ... in short - thank you for making these. I think you're rly cool 🫶

[@hugsterjim2794]

45:49 I would not have noticed unless you pointed that out lol

[@alextwin365]

You’re proof that even though you love a game, you can still be honest about its gameplay and provide an honest review in contrast of your own personal feelings. Love that ❤❤🎉

[@Atmatan]

Only people who love something are able to tear it down and see its flaws. It's easy to be an uncritical consumer of media who defends their art without compromise. It's much harder to be self aware enough to see the flaws in what you love and continue to enjoy it anyway.

[@RupeeClock]

Network Transmission is one of those games I find oddly enjoyable, I know the critical path through the game and look forward to beefing up the mega buster each time, but yeah those flaws are unmistakable. 4.5 Real Operation on the other hand, I really enjoyed committing time to it when we were in lockdown during 2020, and the daily tournaments were manageable. I had to play it with the traditional gameplay patch, but it was a really enjoyable experience with planning how to build your folders, which chips to farm on which given days, and so on.

[@SakuyaIyazoi]

My favorite quirk about chip challenge is that they seemingly did not get or cut out the cardinal direction facing sprites so when a character wants to move downwards they start wildly alternating directions

[@capstalker5539]

The spin-off games of Battle Network perfectly predicted today's mobile games. I am surprised that Capcom have never thought of making a mobile game follows 4.5 gameplay, it's clearly more mobile-friendly than any other Capcom games.

[@inoscopedjfk3110]

WE'RE SO BACK BROS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@thenegus5053]

Gang Gang

[@GiroEXE]

WE JACKIN IN WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥

[@inoscopedjfk3110]

WE DESTROYING ZERO'S STORY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@carlosemilio5180]

WE SO JACK BROS FOR VIRTUAL BOY

[@seandobson6896]

Love that bed of chaos is catching strays in a megaman spin-off video

[@gstellar96]

The fact that zero was wasted on Network Transmission devastates me to no end

[@enistoja]

unfun fact: battle chip challenge has an optional 100-battle-gauntlet mode. My relatively fresh and well cared for GBA SP ran out of battery from full charge before completing it. It also took more than four hours, from what I recall. With endgame chips.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

Shit like this is why I believe Capcom genuinely hated mega man BN fans.

[@TheReapers520]

Another fantastic review. Glad to see those Dvd's of footage have started creeping in hopefully

[@supersmashbro596]

you know you can emulate the battle chip gate functionality with the latest MGBA builds? really saves some change that way when you have access to every chip in the game. like, for real.

[@kwjibril97]

As someone who is at least 2000 stones deep into a summoning drought... The Dokkan Battle music struck me directly in my soul

[@autofire55555]

Fun fact, Network Transmission lets you slide between boss's legs. This makes dodging Fire Man's flame thrower much, *much* easier. ...but of course they don't explain this. :) EDIT: Ok actually looks like your footage has you doing this lol EDIT 2: Huh, I remember liking Battlechip Challenge a lot as a kid, but I bet I'd be annoyed with it too if I only found it recently.

[@thomasyang1]

Same enjoyed battle chip challenge. I think I just find it cool to be able to play different characters which wasn't available until later series.

[@geistgrace6452]

Actually, sometimes bosses will counter the slide by using an attack that hits under them. Like fireman has a eruption attack that hits anything above below and close to him.

[@icarue993]

I feel the same way about BC. Maybe because we had way more time back then and were not in a hurry to finish a game. A lot of people enjoy mobile games, and BC was essentially one of them.

[@TheMadRedHatter]

The amount of times that Higsby and Numberman screw you over with paywalls in these games is a bit alarming.

[@sol_and_luna]

I'm just here to continue to insist that all of these games could have been really good in the modern era with a bit of polish. Okay, a lot of polish for the platformers, those have some problems. But like, Battle Chip Challenge with an ability to select chips and potentially a different "board" with bonus effects if you use those chips, and maybe an ability to choose which chip you're targeting with damage? I feel like that would actually be a fun concept to play around with. Heck, Real Operation is already solid, just throw it on mobile, remove the time gates, add a simpler way to power up your Navis and you could make a really good Battle Network experience in the modern day. It won't ever happen, but I can dream.

[@bloboblobo]

Battle chip challenge it's pretty good (once you search or try to figure out priorities, and to be fair, the game manual says elemental chips have priority over non elemental ones) but it's a game you either get hooked into and figure out how to beat it step by step or you straight up dislike. Also it's not a pay to win although you may have bad luck and not draw any wood, fire, aqua or elec attacking chips after the first class tournaments, but that's kinda unlikely, and you only need two of one element to go to the tournament of the element it wins against, then AT THAT SAME TOURNAMENT you get the navi and chips to win against the element it wins against, then rinse and repeat. That is unless you have Ring (which he did) since her shooter is a double 20 which becomes a double 40 on ice and double 50 on ice against aqua navi, oh, and also adds that damage to opponent last chip on execution line.

[@HiScoreChef]

Another banger video. Your narrative and voice are very pleasant to listen to, makes the video that much more enjoyable! Keep up the good work dude!

[@Jprime777]

Battle Chip Challenge and Network Transmission was my introduction to Battle Network....it took until years later for me to give the series another shot. I just wrote the whole thing off for years until I got BN3 used for $5, and it was actually good

[@WeebmanExe]

Dokkan battle mentioned 🔥🔥🔥 Love paying for units that become obsolete when the next event decides to negate its main ability 🔥🔥🔥

[@kaimcdragonfist4803]

It's why I can't really justify getting into trading card games. Following what's both legal and viable in tournaments just ruins the fun for me. Though let's be honest I couldn't be bothered to go to a tournament for a tcg lol

[@NEETKitten]

As a former FEH player, I feel your pain.

[@Exlayer-pk8hy]

I probably would have loved 4.5 if i got to play it as a kid the way it was intended. It sounds so hype.

[@austinfeller2368]

“Just kill me now, they did not use that music again” killed me 😂

[@HeavenlyXRestricted]

Network transmission was so 🔥 as a kid to me cause I was watching the cartoon along side playing the game.

[@ashleylightheart126]

Funfact, my first megaman battle network game was Chip Challenge, fell in love with the characters then played MMBN 6 Gregar years later and fell in love with the game play. I am still currently in therapy for this.

[@kaimcdragonfist4803]

A friend of mine had Chip Challenge and got super into it. I wasn't the biggest fan of the gameplay but man... Dat soundtrack tho

[@duhsbo]

I do love when I get passionate reviews full of humor. Subscribed

[@videogamerzero1schannel]

About time you're doing the spin offs as I've heard about almost none of them besides Network Transmission

[@jordandillow2417]

Bro have you’ve been living under a rock or something because literally there’s videos about those games bruh do you not have internet to watch KZbin or something?!?😂

[@videogamerzero1schannel]

@@jordandillow2417 hey I just didn't see most of these talked about outside of Network Transmission

[@AndrevusWhitetail]

Cob Nation represent! Also #fucknumberman One thing that's odd is ShadowMan in Network Transmission 'kinda' makes sense since he was also a secret boss in Battle Network 1 even if he had 0 story relevance. As for the Battle Chip Gate...SOME "totally real GameBoy Advance TM" programs on Windows ACTUALLY support emulating it so at least they are usable. So even if we don't have access to the thrill of slotting in chips in real life with a plastic toy piece tacked onto our GBA's at least we can push some buttons to do the same to see what it would've done. Another thing that does stand out to me about how hostile 4.5 is to changing up characters is maybe despite all the character specific roadblocks the game intended for you to get attached to your Navi, much like how in the anime you don't really see people swap their navis out left and right?

[@batmabel]

With how time-gated the game is, I *think* you're supposed to progress with all your Navis at the same time? I mean, you can enroll more than one Navi on the weekly tournaments, so maybe you're supposed to, like, play a bit with a different Navi each day or something? It's still a weird design decision if that's the case, and the fact that each Navi has a separate folder is outright bad, but that makes more sense at least.

[@rebornotherlan]

I just so happened to notice this video on my KZbin timeline and because of it I went down on a rabbit hole of all your battle network videos yes even the ones you think are bad, but the videos really brought back memories of my childhood playing the series and after watching through them all it honestly makes me want a new battle network game. even though that most likely will never happen I can kinda see how if they ever did 6 left the series in a way if they ever brought it back they are truly open to really give it a fresh new start.

[@starmangalaxy2001]

As you pointed out a hack for Battlechip Challenge, I want to point one out for 4.5, actually it's a hack of a hack, the PvP Patch for 4.5 is a next step from the Real Battle Network gameplay by making all of the Navi's much more unique, and implementing mechanics from BN6 for an amazing PvP experience. Megaman takes inspiration from both the other games and the 4.5 megabuster by having more Mega and Giga chip capacity allowing him to use and abuse the powers of other navis, while Bass needs no friendship, Roll has self healing and can summon Mettaurs to stall, or Starman being a goofy goober who can use a random effect at the start of the turn. It's a blast and it's worth giving a play session with a friend.

[@AchanCham_]

This was really cool to watch! And I absolutely agree, if I had everything required for that last game I would have been on the moon. Thank you for your hard work and for sharing this video!

[@somekami3375]

Dunno why the segment with Dokkan Battle’s music playing for a quick second has me dying 🤣

[@mariorivera7969]

The professor looks like a code lyoko character

[@eyalrephaeli6833]

Battle Network 1 was the only game in the franchise to be a launch title for any console. Which might've led Capcom to oversaturate the franchise.

[@FantasyJared]

The video I never even knew I wanted this much. What a wild ride this was, thanks John! I actually have a sort of nostalgia for Battle Chip Challenge, but yeah, by many metrics is not particularly fantastic. XD I guess we all have our games like that, similar to you with Network Transmission.

[@CassiDS]

25:08 Starfy is, like, the only thing TOSE has to their name that's purely Theirs, and even then...

[@Luisthepanda]

I love Battle Chip Challenge! With a few improvements it could have been a great game. It reminds me a lot of auto-battlers, it probably would have been a lot more fun if it was more like auto-battlers instead of idle games. Great video, really enjoyed everything!

[@numbrerotime6683]

4.5 was a nice playthrough, as someone who spent a loooot of time to 100% it(no cheesing, logged in everyday!) I learned a lot of how to optimize getting every license and how to fight every boss perfectly. You can sign up to 5 navis at a time for a License, but only 1 can be done per day up til Saturday/Sunday. The battlechip Counter will be your friend for everything. The AI is janky, but can be manipulated well if you know what you're doing, like, if you have holes on the field and can't move too good and an attack is coming, suddenly a panel opens up, you can set the distance and enemy youre focusing on, use the buster and the navi teleports to that space! Basically I enjoyed 4.5 a lot more than other daily kinda games, it was fun, i built gimmicky folders for certain navis, got to play as Bass! Etcetc

[@davidettles1992]

An hour of John bring on the Good Times.

[@ectobeing]

Great video! I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one who struggled horribly with the gamecube game. I was super into the anime as a kid, I even put subbed episodes onto my iPod nano to watch in the car, but didn’t have any of the games for this MM series in specific. So you can imagine my excitement when I finally found a used copy for cheap at a game store…. Yeah, it was the Network Transmission game. I knew nothing about it, and I couldn’t get past Fire Man either! I think I gave up after a few times out of frustration and boredom, and had difficulty understanding the chip mechanics, especially not playing the RPGs before. Keep in mind I had my parents' old NES MM games and had beat a few of them by the time I had picked up this game. It was my first experience with being disappointed with a game purchase. My second game I got was… a Japanese copy of Battle Chip Challenge. I brute forced learning that game and the language at the same time out of sheer determination. The limited gameplay definitely helped in that regards. Thankfully, this introduction didn’t sour me to the experience of this franchise.

[@trigs7127]

On the WS game, Lan sometimes chimes in and you have to press up to hear what he says, which very often is a hint to getting the special chip of said stage. I could have sworn you could see the stats of navis and chips in battle chip challenge by pressing select on the chip on the deck editor... And while I know it's standard for MegaMan games by now, taking in account that most of these are not made by Capcom themselves, the music is just as amazing.

[@blametheghost]

32:57 wow they really couldnt have moved that canon huh....

[@christianlabrador2826]

Man, Battle Chip Challenge gets a lot of hate but it was actually one of my favorites growing up. I remember getting it as an 8th grade graduation gift and me playing the living hell out of it during summer break. It had its flaws, for sure, but the unique experience it provided in contrast to the "main series" MMBN games was a pretty cool change of pace. You could also input some codes from MMBN4 into Battle Chip Challenge and you'd fight a special character deck for characters from the series. It was also fun to ask Protoman what he thought the chances of victory were before a match and have him respond with "95%", "56%", "20%" was fun at the time.

[@woot2200]

39:30 THEY HAVE A SPEED STAT?!

[@danielellis7612]

I completely agree on how stupid is was that they wasted the Zero Virus on a low budget cash grab. Like WHY.

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

"Goon Squad." Hey, phrasing!

[@MrMr-Joey]

DOKKAN BATTLE MENTIONED 🗣️🔥🔥 MY WALLET IS IN SHAMBLES

[@Mugiwara2k]

I’m not ashamed to admit Network Transmission is one of my guilty pleasure games. The beginning of the game is rough as shit, but once you get upgrades it becomes much more fun. I rented it back in high school when it first came out and I still enjoy it. The way it mixed chips from the RPG series into a platformer is still pretty interesting to me.

[@StevenUlyssesPerhero]

There's a fan patch for 4.5 that makes the Navis directly controllable and adds codes to the chips, and I enjoyed playing the game that way. Not enough to bother beating it with more than one Navi (I chose Roll, in case anyone was curious,) but still, I had a good time.

[@Evarace]

Bro got PTSD from hearing the familiar tournament music

[@NEETKitten]

I feel like you're onto something with Network Transmission being initially developed with the anime in mind. I mean, for one Zero never fucking shows up in the main series again but gets considerable screentime in the anime. So either that was the plan from the start and got changed partway through, or the anime staff saw how underutilized Zero was and decided to give him a home in their... strange, let's say to be nice, alternate timeline.

[@PlayMadness]

One thing I appreciate about the level design callbacks for the matching Mega Man 1 robot master levels is that the yoku block pattern in Iceman.exe's stage is almost identical to the Ice Man stage blocks in MM1.

[@Meophist]

You can actually change the program path in Battle Chip Challenge by using up your whole custom gauge if you have at least 50% from what I remember. I forgot what the command was for it, but it was in the manual.

[@pages4573]

I can only play megaman 4.5 with the normal battle system mod. The regular battle system in that game legit makes me cry.

[@EurasiaM11922911]

4.5 was a real big fun time when you play it over time when i was younger.. I first played it back in 2010 with my gate and it was just pretty fun. Though as you said, you really need the gate to get the full experience. This video overall was great! Always love seeing battle network related content and anything relate to the rl chips and such

[@mycatsnameisdash]

Network transmission is one of my favourite games , I really love the difficulty of the game

[@EnigmaBarry]

Thanks for the reviews John! These are very fair critiques of the spin-offs and I appreciate your thoughts. NT: Pretty tough game that becomes ridiculously easy. The only reason I beat BrightMan was because a KZbin LP I watched used ShieldGuard from the QuickMan Stage. Otherwise GutsMan was the biggest wall for several years until I figured out how this game was actually played. Thanks to GameFAQ's for suggesting DashAtk. WS: Really cool Gunpei Yokoi made a Game Boy for Bandai. As for our Blue Boy, I never played it. I don't know how well this game's buttons four additional face buttons translate to emulators. BCC: I never played more than a few hours of this. It's only good if you're looking for a Mega Man Battle Network game to fill the void. 4.5: Would you believe me if I told you the BN4 "Tournament Advancement" Music is listed under 4.5 on the Soundtrack? John didn't mention this but you can emulate all of the Battle Chip Gates using mGBA or GreigaMaster's "Battle Chip Gate Homebrew" if you have a second Game Boy Advance, a Link Cable, and a Flash Cart.. I'm guessing John didn't use this because he either didn't know (or it interferes with recording footage).

[@KingTaltia]

I personally really love Battle Chip Challenge, myself. But maybe that's just because I REALLY dig Turboman.exe and Ring.exe's designs.

[@NintendoFan7141]

10:37 Actually, if you jack out, you can go to Higsby's shop and buy Aqua Swords, just two of them will delete Fireman. I remember doing this as a kid because I could not beat him otherwise no matter how hard I tried, though I also used to be awful at Megaman in general.

[@Semystic]

I enjoyed BCC and I still play it every so often. It's a pretty neat spinoff

[@wilfredobracero4226]

Are you going to do a Retrospective on Starforce 2 & 3?

[@RandomGeek12]

1:51 I need the source for this. For science.

[@redsowshaddark]

I'm so glad you like network transmission even though it's kind of awful. I feel the same way ha ha. Just letting you know since even the wiki has wrong information on it.... In 4.5 the third row of playable navis on the character select screen were battlegate exclusive navis. As in you had to buy the associated physical navi chip into the battlegate toy while playing 4.5 to unlock them. The English translation patch, knowing most people won't have the toys, give you ways to unlock those navis through in-game means. It's mentioned in the patch notes. Wonderful video, great job! Always love seeing things from you.

[@inconemay1441]

Network Transmission - The worst part about being released to launch the anime is that you don't get to take part in it, which is the fate of BN3 in most of these anime-tie ins. The music direction while different than the standard GBA mainline style still screams a Battle Network identity to it. In particular is BrightMan's stage theme, which is clearly derived from the electronic jazz scene from the 70s-80s that the composer Shinji Hosoe is inspired from (look up Yellow Magic Orchestra). Also Blazing Internet, FireMan's stage, is just *chef's kiss*. The Wonderswan game looks like they took a few assets from Megaman Zero, or at least have a similar style to it, in contrast to the weird 3D platformer stuff from NT. PharaohMan gets to shine in both platformer spinoffs after being wasted potential in the games with Ancient Egypt themed stages instead of being bound to the postgame dungeons. BCC - I played 3 and only 3 before trying this out so I was caught off guard by recycled assets from the first two games. The weird music and gameplay didnt bother me that much because I just sped up the totally legit copy as what kids would do back then. I can't believe i beat most of the enemies with multiple characters either, only missing the secret bosses probably. 4.5 - Controlling other Navis seems like a precursor to XDive. Imagine all the barely different alts Mega, Bass, and Roll will get. PlantMan is chosen to return somehow despite not appearing in 4,5, and 6. Also 4.5 cartridge is needed to unlock stuff in 5DTDS which is its own kind of evil.

[@jxbermudez]

WE MEGAING OUR MAN WITH THIS ONE BOIS

[@Q-gf8vb]

🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@EonAegis]

I grew up on Battlechip Challenge! The game basically plays itself once you get D Level. All you really need to do is beat your face into Woodman until he gives in, then get a few treebom chips of any level. They are powered up by being the same element as woodman, and will absolutely wipe all your enemy chips, causing you to just mercilessly beat down on practically anything in the game. You can hold onto this "strategy" even when woodman is elementally disadvantageous or the enemies are all about shielding, because chip wiping like this is just that strong. I have a soft spot for the game, but honestly it's not very good :')

[@DigiDawg2]

Tbh I didn't have any real issues when I was playing this on the GameCube as a kid. I'll admit it was a lil tough but the music and the lighting effects of the charged shot was wat got me hooked and kept me going.

[@necrocorey6408]

Honestly I'm pretty into battle chip challenge. I love deckbuilding games, and I love the gacha mechanic (when it is separated from real money.) It's a super fun game if you enjoy deckbuilding. It sounds like he just doesn't like *deckbuilding* in general. Especially when you consider he does basically buster only runs if his other battle network reviews are any indication. This game was ahead of its time imo.

[@TWLSpark]

Surely you aren't thinking that you can escape BN now, right? I'm sorry, but if we've gotten this far, there's still one thing left to review. ... The anime-

[@RalphThePyro]

33:57 "...and what is wrong with them!?" Me: Actually we should be asking "Are they okay?"

[@ce4879]

The King has returned like Kingman’s checkmate smashing down! 👑 🎉

[@Monke80s]

I hope they reuse these netnavis and some human characters IF (a big IF) they decide to continue the Battle Network series. Ring.EXE, Needleman.EXE and Turboman.EXE's designs are too cool to just use in one game, let alone an obscure spin off of a spin off series. On that note, it would also be cool if they redesigned more robot masters to be different genders in netnavi form. Never really thought about the fact that there are only 3 female netnavis.

[@gundambassexe31]

I loved the idea of 4.5 real Operation but aside from the fan mods improvements , it was a messy spinoff. But I love it regardless😅😅😅

[@intrestsofthemind612]

Not only was Glide ignored in 4.5. But he was such an ignored character that he and Yai weren't even part of a game using static images of navis with some animation for attacks. All they needed to do was give him a battle sprite and a buster attack animation for battle chip challange...and they still chose to give the character slot to a completely new character who needed overworld and battle sprites...do...do they just hate Glide and Yai?

[@thomasffrench3639]

No way my dude just dissed Quick Man’s Stage. It’s iconic

[@kaimcdragonfist4803]

Network Transmission annoys me because its difficulty curve is a freaking sine wave. Fireman is WAY too difficult to be the boss of the intro stage, and then the game has random spikes and valleys

[@xmaswolf8733]

I’m upset they wasted Zero on NT, his hypothetical story of being a self aware virus given intelligence and laments his existence Sounds cool, but they used it for….that game

[@ScottE-2]

Ah sweet a new John video! Been looking forward to this one.

[@Ar0wally]

yo the Dokkan gacha for the chip battle challenge dho

[@RalphThePyro]

Bro I'm shocked "A lot of mediocre ground to cover." *Megaman Netwrok Transmission* WHAT!? XD I really loved it! AND I didn't quit after Fire Man :) I (and my bro) PUSHED!

[@soundsofglasswork]

It's always intriguing to hear about Battle Chip Challenge cause I must have major nostalgia cause I remember some features but others I remember very differently like I remember at some point operating Toadman after a shop purchase and I don't remember the battle system AT ALL. I just remember it being extremely hard.

[@uroy8371]

Jaja I loved the last word xD really made laugh. What a good and objective review.

[@TheKpa11]

In network transmission you can fight bass too. You only fighting till he loses like a quarter of his health, then his cloak shreds and you see him without it. I find this funny because it’s a classic trope that he’s getting serious by the cloak coming off. But throughout Battle network. That cloak is like a second skin to bass. It never comes off, only shortens for like cross fusion which I find funny