Why isn't Cyprus a Part of Greece?

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Why isn't Cyprus a Part of Greece?
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Michális Stavrou Michael. Resolving the Cyprus Conflict: Negotiating History.
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@SaracenCount
@SaracenCount Жыл бұрын
Whenever Britain is involved in the colonial era, it's divide and conquer, and a remaining messy legacy as we see here in Cyprus, Kashmir, and Palestine.
@bubbehaqaa6290
@bubbehaqaa6290 Жыл бұрын
The intended for that to happen.
@Patoecapoeira
@Patoecapoeira Жыл бұрын
Well that's what detonated the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to this day. They promised their own state to both Jews and Arabs only to betray both and throw them against each other.
@thethirdfrenchempire1556
@thethirdfrenchempire1556 Жыл бұрын
Also Hong Kong and China.
@asmrnaturecat984
@asmrnaturecat984 Жыл бұрын
Rakhine in myanmar, patani in thailand, sabah in malaysia, egypt and sudan, yaman, iraq and kuwait, The list goes on and on and you can still relate it to british
@hamzadahmoun5102
@hamzadahmoun5102 Жыл бұрын
And France
@shingosshojiopoulos6608
@shingosshojiopoulos6608 Жыл бұрын
It's always Britain's fault
@mcauschy926
@mcauschy926 Жыл бұрын
Not sure what Britain could've done, really If Cyprus unified with Greece then the Turks would've rebelled
@thcyprus
@thcyprus Жыл бұрын
@@mcauschy926 Greece and balkans in general, which were under the Ottomans for far longer than Cyprus, also have Turkish minorities. Rhodes island, which also has a turkish minority, joined Greece in 1947 and not even a nose broke over this. The British simply didn't want to leave from Cyprus, so they used the Turkish minority and Turkey as a way to balance out the Cypriots and keep Cyprus under British control.
@DisgaeMi
@DisgaeMi Жыл бұрын
@@mcauschy926 or the Greeks exiling the the Turks to Turkey like they did with the Greeks in Asia Minor
@mcauschy926
@mcauschy926 Жыл бұрын
@@thcyprus considering everything that happened after cyprus got independence I'd argue that it cyprus joining greece would play out differently to other places with turkish minorities
@tombblades
@tombblades Жыл бұрын
Well if they were so boring and didn't want to leave the empire then it would be a problem.
@mariosok64
@mariosok64 Жыл бұрын
Two bitter truths that were not mentioned in your video: -If two fish are fighting in a river, a long-legged Englishman has just passed by -the archbishop was flirting with Soviets and not taking sides with NATO so uncle Sam made sure that Cyprus won't turn into another Cuba
@01egna
@01egna Жыл бұрын
That's right, it was Henry 'The Bastard' Kissinger who sent the Turks a map of what was to be taken. US freedom of information has shown us 40 years after the fact and of course divided weakened nations suite Israel hegemony over the region so of course this was also their man's bidding.
@starkilr101
@starkilr101 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it’s strange to see videos like this and remember how all these empires like the Ottomans and the British didn’t stop existing until about 100 years ago. That’s not very far off. It’s makes you wonder about how things change
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
Even weirder, the British Empire formally ended nearly two decades ago. The Portugese until the 2000s.
@TONYSTARK-uu3qz
@TONYSTARK-uu3qz Жыл бұрын
a little reminder; If the embargo did not exist, Turkey would have taken all of Cyprus.
@kyriakosarakas7572
@kyriakosarakas7572 Жыл бұрын
And the Turks still want the Ottoman Empire back...
@zagortenay33
@zagortenay33 Жыл бұрын
@@kyriakosarakas7572 This is not true neither is it feasible anymore. Majority of the Turkish people support the ideals and goals of the Republic.
@suzie55
@suzie55 Жыл бұрын
They also didn't exist that long. Colonizers with colonizers. Always getting awarded for their b*rb*rism
@paddlino9129
@paddlino9129 Жыл бұрын
The true Reason is that Greece and Cyprus can give 12 Points to eachother in Eurovision, having therefore an advantage ;)
@alfelker
@alfelker Жыл бұрын
LoL
@captaingreek
@captaingreek Жыл бұрын
Best explanation ever!
@chrystallademetriou4364
@chrystallademetriou4364 Жыл бұрын
And no other countries vote for their neighbours in the contest. You haven't been paying attention. Greece has won once and Cyprus never. Big advantage.
@TurquazCannabiz
@TurquazCannabiz Жыл бұрын
@@chrystallademetriou4364 You need more than 2 countries and 15 million Greeks to win a tournament lol
@chrystallademetriou4364
@chrystallademetriou4364 Жыл бұрын
@@TurquazCannabiz spot on.
@ERT-ek7ri
@ERT-ek7ri Жыл бұрын
There is a mistake in the video. İn 1983 Turkey didnt gave independence to Northern part of the island , Cypriot Turks under Rauf Denktaş did that. Turkey was in a bit of a bad situation after coup of 1980 and Rauf Denktaş used this to declare independence.
@tk5gqj514
@tk5gqj514 Жыл бұрын
Not really he couldn't do it if Turkey didn't allow.
@Polo-rn8ly
@Polo-rn8ly Жыл бұрын
Actually Turkey was suprised about them but recognized their independence anyway
@berks.218
@berks.218 Жыл бұрын
Completely incorrect. Rauf Denktas could not do any resistance without the Turkish army.
@Hagurmert
@Hagurmert Жыл бұрын
and to this day, TRNC is not known internationally by government, therefore restricting rights for them if they dont have EU citizenship and completely dependent to Turkey in many areas.. like water, electricity (theres only 2 companies who provide electricity in turkish cyprus who are also very scumy) today this side is basically like living in hell, hot as fuck, inflation is very insane since most things within the country is imports and is also dry (there is high humidity i think), there hasnt been any rain for 2 months
@aysinay
@aysinay Жыл бұрын
@@berks.218 yabancilarin onunde bunlari mi tartisiyorsunuz? Ne ayip😁
@JeaNz0r
@JeaNz0r Жыл бұрын
Any hole you dig in this island you find ancient Greek history.
@zottirgen
@zottirgen 10 ай бұрын
Maybe we should leave all our countries to dinosaurs because once we dig enough, we'll see their footprints all over
@OneTwo_1028
@OneTwo_1028 4 ай бұрын
THE WHOLE WORLD İS GREEK!!! HOORAYY!!1!
@calogerohuygens4430
@calogerohuygens4430 3 ай бұрын
​@@zottirgen dinosaurs didn't suffer ethnic cleansing.
@ozelyakup6427
@ozelyakup6427 2 ай бұрын
Because Greeks destroy other civilizations
@Skyrim-os4ql
@Skyrim-os4ql 3 күн бұрын
@@calogerohuygens4430 But Balkan Turks did. And also American Indians. So European colonizers should leave continent of America by that logic?
@Phessington
@Phessington Жыл бұрын
You have missed out important information as to one of the reasons why the Ottoman Turks conquered the island of Cyprus. The Venetians had for years raided Ottoman pilgrims on the way to Mecca, usually slaughtering every single person. Also many, many times the Venetians had broken treaties with the ottomans. There’s also was an occasion when Ottoman Turkish soldiers had been held prisoner in Cyprus for ransom, when the ransom was payed, the treacherous Venetians still slaughtered the hostages.
@giannisgeorgiadis1887
@giannisgeorgiadis1887 Жыл бұрын
Nobody Cares they are Sufi Grave worshippers i follow Sunnah
@KA-wm9rn
@KA-wm9rn Жыл бұрын
Respect sir
@Phessington
@Phessington Жыл бұрын
@@giannisgeorgiadis1887 Good for you. HARE KRISHNA.
@montgomerygarmadon4688
@montgomerygarmadon4688 Жыл бұрын
What they did is nothing compared to what 🦃 did
@a1kurd677
@a1kurd677 Жыл бұрын
@@montgomerygarmadon4688 every nation has done very bad things to other nations
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 Жыл бұрын
4:46 a few words on this, as many outside of Greece don't understand why this happened. So in the period from 1914 to 1917 Greece was split. The north of the country was the pro-entente Hellenic Republic while the south was the pro-central powers Kingdom of Greece. This is an event known as the National Schism (Εθνικός Διχασμός). However, eventually Britain and France wanted Greece to join their side so as to make progress in the Macedonian front against Bulgaria, which was seen as the weakest link. Britain thus made this offer, not to the pro-entente government in Thessaloniki, but to the pro-German one in Athens. This was done on purpose, because the British knew that the response would be negative and thus the Kingdom would face internal turmoil. The move worked out and eventually, thanks to an Entente landing in Athens, the army of the kingdom was paralysed (because the government had been ridiculed with the rejection of the offer of Cyprus), the king had to flee to Italy and the country was reunited under the Prime Minister. Britain however did NOT keep its word, because the deal supposedly was not to Greece, but to the "official Greek government" which at the time was considered to be that of the kingdom, in Athens. So even though in the end Greece joined the Entente, we weren't given Cyprus. British scam.
@onesixfour1905
@onesixfour1905 Жыл бұрын
And THE greek Scam trying to enosis? When Cyprus was supposed to be independent?
@street3806
@street3806 Жыл бұрын
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@marymanouskou399
@marymanouskou399 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more... Unfortunately they will always wants us apart Greece and Cyprus
@AugustusIV
@AugustusIV Жыл бұрын
I haven't come across this information before. Thank you
@dszxnavtiisx6384
@dszxnavtiisx6384 Жыл бұрын
@@marymanouskou399 because you are no Greeks you are Cypriots, aswell as Austrians are not Germans they are Austrians. And if Cyprus would have been Greece than Cyprus would be very poor now not prosperous like they are now
@78a67h
@78a67h Жыл бұрын
While you got most of the historical landmarks right, in your analysis you completely omitted reference to the HUGE underhand / clandestine role of the USA and CIA in particular in the events leading to the Turkish invasion of 1974
@01egna
@01egna Жыл бұрын
Bravo! Henry 'The Bastard' Kissinger ordered Turkey's invasion and US freedom of information has revealed the maps he sent them of what to take, virtually identical to the outcome.
@RebelRampant
@RebelRampant 10 ай бұрын
That’s the analysis left out? Not the theft rape colonization and occupation of the entire eastern half of the Greco-Roman world - and islams constant attack on Christendom?? But the attempted defense of the lands…. That’s the problem you see here?
@gremlinonion1323
@gremlinonion1323 6 ай бұрын
People tend to forget that this was during the cold war and Greece was under dictatorship facilitated by the Americans at that time.
@mehmetakifakgul8666
@mehmetakifakgul8666 27 күн бұрын
Turkey as a signatory country in the founding of the Cyprus Republic had and has guarantor right to protect Turkish People of Cyprus!
@78a67h
@78a67h 27 күн бұрын
@@mehmetakifakgul8666 Turkish Cypriots were not under attack in any way during the events of the 1974 coup. Furthermore after the constitutional order had been restored, Turkish forces had no place being in Cyprus on a so called "peace-keeping mission".
@unim8
@unim8 Жыл бұрын
I recently had a chat with a Turk who is a cypriot war veteran. He told me that they hid iron pipes inside bushes with its head outside to scare greek army by making them think theres an artillery there. Another thing is that, he told me that he once picked up a greek child so the kid could reach to the apple that was on a tree. His mother thought that he was going to throw him to the ground and kill him and hitted him with a huge wood. But when the greek mother realized that he was trying to help his kid get an apple, she cried in happiness and offered them cookies. Though, they refused to eat the cookies because it was against army rules.
@user-vo5mf3ly9s
@user-vo5mf3ly9s Жыл бұрын
About the killings innocent people and missing persons about 1600 what you said no comment?
@seriesmovies4195
@seriesmovies4195 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vo5mf3ly9s What about the missing of Turkish Cypriots? And then I’m not even mentioning the countless of massacres perpetrated by EOKA-B years before 74’
@ilkernl387
@ilkernl387 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vo5mf3ly9s masum eoka teröristlerinden mi bahsediyorsun? Hani şu kadınları çocukları katleden masumlardan?
@unim8
@unim8 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vo5mf3ly9s I litteraly talked with a war veteran to confirm what happened and you just use "whataboutism" to deny a man who saw the war?
@user-vo5mf3ly9s
@user-vo5mf3ly9s Жыл бұрын
@@seriesmovies4195 who had illegal occupation and invasion in the island at 1974 against the decisions of UN ? But of course the pirate state of Turkey you do the same thing in North Iraq and Syria ....
@sulphurous2656
@sulphurous2656 Жыл бұрын
Another classic historical examples that shows why demographics are the key to everything.
@ADKfreeman
@ADKfreeman Жыл бұрын
and geography
@SuperYAS111
@SuperYAS111 Жыл бұрын
Go say that to native Americans lol 😂 Populations evolve get used to it What you are saying is just a argument based on fallacy many old civilisations populations changed For instance before Germans came there was Prussians the Prussians are not there anymore Before Greeks and Bulgarians there was Thracians today they’re no longer there before Iraqis there was Mesopotamians ancient Iraqis no longer existed Populations evolve for many different reasons be open to change not everything will be the same forever Perhaps the aborigines native Americans have every right for there existence Demographics are not always important sure demographics do play a role in one’s survival but it’s more about quality people can still have a upper hand against others regardless of how numerous they are quality can also change the tied Many people got assimilated ethnically and culturally in order to survive as people and that’s how basically how many old civilisations died out as the majority would replace them
@77vavavoom
@77vavavoom Жыл бұрын
@@SuperYAS111 Before Greeks and Bulgarians there were Thraceans??? Man, you really need to study, I mean study, not just videos on KZbin... Greeks according to western academia have been in the area since 3000 bc, and according to last 30 years findings that nobody advertises of course, we have been here even before 8000-10000 bc. Slavs (like Bulgarians) settled in the area during the Byzantine times.
@SuperYAS111
@SuperYAS111 Жыл бұрын
@@77vavavoom before the Greek civilisation emerged there was a Thrace civilisations that is what I said I never said Greeks are foreign to the Balkans or came from somewhere else you misunderstand my point Thracians was a indo European European people who are no longer around
@SuperYAS111
@SuperYAS111 Жыл бұрын
@@77vavavoom also the ancient Greeks lived in many lands
@giorgoskousouloskousoulos5367
@giorgoskousouloskousoulos5367 Жыл бұрын
You missed the big picture of why Cyprus did not unite with Greece. If Cyprus would unite with Greece and Greece was a member of NATO, the Brits would of had to remove their military from Cyprus. Taking into account that the US already pushed Britain of of Suez canal, they would of lost their military present in eastern Europe. And well well well... How convenient that the two sides clashed and made Enosis unrealistic!!
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
* would've As well, it has a high Turkish population and there would have undoubtedly been fighting comparable to the Troubles.
@axax7668
@axax7668 Жыл бұрын
I agree and I don't. But Cyprus was too strategic to leave to a bunch of shepards!! Lol
@declannewton2556
@declannewton2556 Жыл бұрын
Except you're entirely wrong. The British bases are separate from the Republic entirely ever since independence was granted. Instead they form their own dependencies. The UK had no legal obligation to remove them if the Republic joined Greece. Especially so since the treaty that gave Cyprus independence banned Enosis to began with. Also it's literally just braindead to imply this conflict was because some imaginary string pulling.
@louptrjack7354
@louptrjack7354 Жыл бұрын
@@ericdillingham6858 not there would, there was fighting. Greeks killed hundred of thousands of Turkish Cypriot civillians to extermine the Turkish population in the island and unite with Greece at the end. But they got kicked off by Turkey. Now Greeks trying to play the victim card. As if the weren’t the ones trying to erase the Turks from the island.
@01egna
@01egna Жыл бұрын
@@declannewton2556 You are the brain dead one. US freedom of information 40 years after the fact has shown the letters and maps that Henry 'The Bastard' Kissinger sent Turkey pushing Turkey to invade. It is also common knowledge that the CIA infiltrated and stirred lies about Greek attacks on Turks in order to push Turkish public opinion to force the situation. Of course there was string pulling, the evidence is mountainous. Israel, US and Uk are all culpable.
@girayoktay
@girayoktay Жыл бұрын
why cypyus a part of turkey ? why didin't you mention blloody chrismas 1963
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 ай бұрын
Bloody Christmas- 364 Turkish Cypriots killed, 174 Greek Cypriots killed. 1974 invasion- 200.000 Greek Cypriots displaced, 6.000 killed, 1.200+ missing. Very proportionate ‘intervention’.
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 Жыл бұрын
10:26 no, again, as I explained in another comment, Britain didn't actually support Enosis, it was just a move to diplomatically pressure the then pro-German government, which couldn't accept the deal. In reality, only during and shortly after WW2 did Britain finally support Enosis, as compensation for the Greek contribution to the war (Greece wanted the Dodecanese, Cyprus and Northern Epirus, but in the end it only got the Dodecanese).
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanos8977 Η Ελλάδα είχε συγκεκριμένες εθνικές διεκδικήσεις στα αποκλεισμένα εδάφη της, είτε αυτά ήταν υπό ιταλική, είτε υπό βρετανική κατοχή. Οι Βρετανοί υποσχέθηκαν στην Ελλάδα την Κύπρο αλλά μας πρόδωσαν. Γι'αυτό ξεκίνησε ο αγώνας της ΕΟΚΑ.
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 Жыл бұрын
@@stefanos8977 έχω εξηγήσει και σε άλλο σχόλιο γιατί η προσφορά στον Α' Παγκόσμιο ήταν ψεύτικη. Στην ουσία, η προσφορά δεν έγινε στον Βενιζέλο αλλά στην βασιλική κυβέρνηση, η οποία οι Άγγλοι γνώριζαν ότι δεν θα αποδεχόταν. Την έκαναν αποκλειστικά για άσκηση πίεσης στους φιλοβασιλικούς κατά τον Εθνικό Διχασμό, η οποία και δούλεψε καθώς μερικούς μήνες αργότερα ο Βενιζέλος επέστρεψε στην εξουσία στην Αθήνα, οπότε και η προσφορά αποσύρθηκε. Και κάτι τελευταίο. Κάνεις ένα μικρό λάθος σχετικά με τα Δωδεκάνησα. Δεν δόθηκαν υπό καμία προϋπόθεση. Πρόσεξε. Αυτό είναι προπαγάνδα των Τούρκων. Η παράγραφος της Συνθήκης των Παρισίων που αναφέρεται σε αποστρατιωτικοποίηση δεν την συνδέει με κανέναν τρόπο με την κυριαρχία της Ελλάδας επί των νησιών, η οποία είναι άνευ όρων και αδιαμφισβήτητη. Άλλωστε, ακόμη και σε παράβαση της αποστρατιωτικοποίησης, δεν αναφέρεται επιστροφή των εδαφών σε άλλο κράτος. Είναι σαν να σου λένε ότι μπορείς να αγοράσεις ένα σπίτι, αλλά δεν πρέπει να κάνεις φασαρία στις ώρες κοινής ησυχίας. Αυτό δεν σημαίνει όμως ότι αν κάνεις θα σου πάρουν το σπίτι. Μπορεί να σε πάνε στο τμήμα, να πληρώσεις πρόστιμο ή οτιδήποτε, αλλά το η υποχρέωσή σου να μην κάνεις φασαρία στο σπίτι σου δεν είναι και όρος κατοχής του σπιτιού σου από εσένα. Δηλαδή η παράβαση αυτής της υποχρέωσης δεν συνεπάγεται με επιστροφή του σπιτιού σου στον προηγούμενο κάτοχο. Το ίδιο ισχύει και με τα Δωδεκάνησα, τουλάχιστον σε νομικό καθεστώς.
@berks.218
@berks.218 Жыл бұрын
@@georgios_5342 you guys so used to request something from your big brothers, thus always be ready for this kind of results same as what happens nowadays…
@demetraad1739
@demetraad1739 Жыл бұрын
Greece didn’t want enosis
@mariosbardis4831
@mariosbardis4831 Жыл бұрын
@@berks.218 there was no request, they promised it as part of a plot, and then revoked their promise. Turks keep claiming that Greece always relies on the West, when they are the ones that have screwed as the most.
@mariachrstofi2238
@mariachrstofi2238 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for raising awareness of this issue
@gracealive5191
@gracealive5191 Жыл бұрын
This is not correct
@systemreset9410
@systemreset9410 Жыл бұрын
4:18 Turkish cypriots have gone to many places. Since 1878, Turkish people started leaving Cyprus in droves. As of now, southern provinces of Turkey has about half million descendants from Cyprus who left in 1878, 1914, 1923 and more.
@ugurmehmet9165
@ugurmehmet9165 Жыл бұрын
So true meny Cypriot turks left the island in the 1800s and settled in motherland 🇹🇷 citys like mersin adana.
@TurquazCannabiz
@TurquazCannabiz Жыл бұрын
True. Even famous Turkish people like Fatih Terim (who is from Adana) was originally from Cyprus.
@attilamert6973
@attilamert6973 Жыл бұрын
Lmao all the levantine cypriots
@suzie55
@suzie55 Жыл бұрын
Now all turks should do everyone a favor and decolonize and go back to central Asia the world would be in less pain
@suzie55
@suzie55 Жыл бұрын
@@ugurmehmet9165 how can you sit here and talk about motherland when turks literally are from central Asia and colonized and systemically w*ped out and turkify all natives since their arrival. Your mother lands are wayyyyy east. Go back
@user-jf6yv8rj2s
@user-jf6yv8rj2s Жыл бұрын
Even if I haven't watch the video, the answer is pretty simple to your question! The island since 1878, was given by Ottoman Empire to the British. Therefore the British didn't allowed Cyprus to unite with Greece, even there was a referendum by the Greek-Cypriots for union with Greece.
@ata9879
@ata9879 Жыл бұрын
Give 1 island (Cyprus) in the mediterannean sea to muslims, Christians are egoistic.
@turistomer3702
@turistomer3702 Жыл бұрын
The island was only leased to the British, the sovereignty of the island still belonged to Ottoman Turkish however at the end of the WW1 Britain refused to move out, Turkiye threatened to go to war over it, they then decided to go to the international courts whom duly decided Britain must go and a new Republic under it's own right to be formed with Turkiye and Greece acting as guaranteurs but not getting involved in local politics and Britain was allowed to keep military bases to make sure there was no civil war, however the Greeks started ethnically abusing and killing the Turkish Cypriots (civilians)aided and abetted by greece which resulted in the Turkish intervention of 1974 which by law it was allowed to do when Cyprus was formed and that's the only reason the killings of the Turkish civilians stopped to this day.
@TheSauron197
@TheSauron197 Жыл бұрын
@@turistomer3702 leased???? These lies are feeding you,or is your own inspiration????
@turistomer3702
@turistomer3702 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSauron197 4th of June 1878 is when it was leased to the British for the sum of £92.799,the money was symbolic, the deal was that Britain would help Türkey in their war against the Russians, but Britain claimed the island for themselves in 1914
@user-jf6yv8rj2s
@user-jf6yv8rj2s Жыл бұрын
@@turistomer3702 Britain was allowed to keep military bases to make sure there was no civil war? That's nice story for fairy tales, but not for politics. Britain was only cared about their colonists interests worldwide and nothing more. Never cared about protecting any population from any wars. In the contrary wherever Britain was involved civil wars were occured. Overall even in the documentary, explained that the British didn't wish for the Union and that they never wished to. And that was the main reason. All the other are just talks for nothing...
@anilkarakaya9343
@anilkarakaya9343 Жыл бұрын
Just listen to the first minute only and it sounds astonishingly simple and biased already. Venetian colonizers arent invaders, they "took control the island"(yeah, after having destroyed their rival eastern roman capital, they could invade eastern coasts easily) but ottomans are "invaders" and venetians fought valiantly until fall(but ottomans didnt?). K, didnt watch the rest. edit: at the beginning, video also makes the suggestion, why somewhere would not be part of your territory when you have strong cultural ties. It is a very simple way of handling it when ukraine, azerbaijan and tens of other examples exist.
@kirimhani1877
@kirimhani1877 Жыл бұрын
kanka diğer videolarınada bakarsan,bu kanal bize karşı taraflı davranıyo. mesela türk tarihi videosuna arap müzoği koymuştu yüzlerce hakaret yorumu gelmesine rağmen özür bile dilemedi admin bet
@sunshine848
@sunshine848 Жыл бұрын
Bence böyle tarihi şeylerde ingilzce özellikle Türk kelimesi geçtiğinde izlemeyin çünkü ukeler ve insanlar kendi bakış açılarından paylaşırlar karşındakini düşünmezler In my opinion, do not watch such historical things, especially when the word Turkish is mentioned, because ukes and people share from their own point of view, they do not think about the other person.
@onurgokturk
@onurgokturk Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Westerners should stop presenting themselves as angels and the Ottomans as devils. It sounds funny and pathetic to the rest of the world.
@atinaninoglou
@atinaninoglou Жыл бұрын
@@kirimhani1877 diss like atın
@atinaninoglou
@atinaninoglou Жыл бұрын
Diss like at
@giannb5145
@giannb5145 Жыл бұрын
The Cyprus chapter is among the saddest in the history of modern Greek world, an open wound until today. Also note that we don't like the British bases at all. Despite strong ties to the UK in areas like common law, lots of British tourists coming here or us studying at UK universities, on the political/strategic level relations are cold. We don't like British hypocrisy at condemning Russian occupation of Ukraine while they occupy part of the island.
@iiilker1989
@iiilker1989 Жыл бұрын
If the population of Greece ,somehow, become 99 percent Turkish. Would you allow them to rule the country and take all the lands standing upon majority? Population is not the only factor. The world was totally different about etnicity,religion and about their perceptions. On the other hand, even sources of legitimacy has changed, Hard power and strategic interests still prevail. So Russian occupation of Ukraine, Turkish occupation of Cyrpus, Greek occupation of Anatolia. All interventions have their own sources of legitimacies. Some are widely accepted by international community, some not. Reality is so variable.
@jomainvatlar
@jomainvatlar Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have tried to ethnically cleanse Turkish Cypriots for ENOSIS I guess. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
@Polo-rn8ly
@Polo-rn8ly Жыл бұрын
Cyripot is not ethnicity.. Greeks and turks live there so Best way for island is sharing it between Turkey and greece
@iiilker1989
@iiilker1989 Жыл бұрын
@@Polo-rn8ly De-facto situation is complex. Annexation is the worst solution.
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
Britain had Cyprus first, it's not like they invaded the island.
@Agras1880
@Agras1880 Жыл бұрын
The answer to your question "Why isnt Cyprus part of Greece" is simple as that. If Cyprus was a part of Greece the Exclusive Economic Zone would be unified. A triangle between Crete, Kastelorizo and Cyprus would be made and no one could had a share to Gaz, Oil and hydrocarbons that exists in the area but Greece itself. Its not political matter, its economic. Cyprus Greece Turkey even Britain have no right against the global energy and oil companies.
@LG-bs1rs
@LG-bs1rs Жыл бұрын
Very good point
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173 Жыл бұрын
Your post was the wisest in explaining why things are the way that they are today. Let the Greek and Turkish nationalists whine on, they are just pawns in this game.
@GeoBBB123
@GeoBBB123 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure the EEZ was even a consideration then? Your observation is quite anachronistic. Even the theoretical possibility of hydrocarbon reserves in the surrounding seas would barely have featured in any contemporary thinking.
@user-me4fb1eb3w
@user-me4fb1eb3w Жыл бұрын
GeoBB, have a warm cup of S T F Up
@nickchristoforou7850
@nickchristoforou7850 Жыл бұрын
Greek and Cypriot EEZ can legally be unified even today.
@ickgtib
@ickgtib Жыл бұрын
"Why isn't Cyprus part of Greece"? You want the short version or the long one? What is the short one? Turkey And the long one? Watch the video!
@berkekadircelik6282
@berkekadircelik6282 Жыл бұрын
Technicly its actually British goverment
@Llyebbay
@Llyebbay Жыл бұрын
The Grreece and Cyprus have the same Greek Language the same Greek National Anthem and the same Greek Nation
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
Man goes into the comments and comments "watch the video to learn information about the video"
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
@@Llyebbay Cyprus is ethnically split. It also has a Turkish speaking population.
@ickgtib
@ickgtib Жыл бұрын
@@ericdillingham6858 kinda awkward huh?
@user-ut1gh2mi8y
@user-ut1gh2mi8y Жыл бұрын
If we go further back, where there was no England , America and Turky.... Greece is always here and everywhere!
@memegoats.
@memegoats. Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 yeah right keep dreaming
@user-ut1gh2mi8y
@user-ut1gh2mi8y Жыл бұрын
@@memegoats. you don't learn with rap music, sharp
@hulergun
@hulergun Жыл бұрын
Greece is everywhere??
@MobileIndifference
@MobileIndifference Жыл бұрын
Whoever does the narration here is awesome
@maxusers
@maxusers Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to learn how to pronounce words or leave them alone. 3:12 "Enosis" with the stress on E. enOsis = to connect (the word he used) Enosis = union (the word he SHOULD use)
@VladTevez
@VladTevez Жыл бұрын
A good source is Perry Anderson's book "The Divisions of Cyprus"
@christhomson8924
@christhomson8924 Жыл бұрын
cyprus is turkey and turkey is cyprus
@VladTevez
@VladTevez Жыл бұрын
@@christhomson8924 82% of the native population, which self-identifies as Greek since the late Bronze Age, disagrees
@invalidnoun4746
@invalidnoun4746 Жыл бұрын
@@VladTevez don't mind him, I am Turkish and Cyprus is not Turkey at all because Greeks are the majority. I support a united Cyprus as a federal government with two states (North and South)
@VladTevez
@VladTevez Жыл бұрын
@@invalidnoun4746 Let us hope so
@armandotalampas4800
@armandotalampas4800 Жыл бұрын
@@invalidnoun4746 I wish all Turks think like you. We need leaders who are like you. I hope Cyprus would be reunified someday with Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots living side by side. It's an ambitious dream but not impossible.
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
@unhollysin3550
@unhollysin3550 Жыл бұрын
Good documentary well done!!!
@CyprusHot
@CyprusHot Жыл бұрын
“I was informed that on 7 June 1958 a bomb had been planted in the Turkish press office in Nicosia by persons who, as was later established, had nothing to do with the Greek Cypriots. The Turks of Nicosia were then incited to be overwhelmed by holy indignation and perpetrated acts similar to those committed on 6 and 7 September 1955 in Istanbul.” Former Turkish diplomat, Emin Dirvana, in Turkish newspaper Milliyet, 15 June 1964
@ibec69
@ibec69 Жыл бұрын
From what I've read about him, he was the ambassador for Turkey to Cyprus for a little more than 2 years. He was one of the good ones. Apparently he tried to be in the middle ground make the union work. He didn't get on well with Denktas who was a militant imbecile.
@arisandreopoulos9247
@arisandreopoulos9247 Жыл бұрын
You should mention that until the invasion the Greek population of Cyprus was 80% so after the Greek held referendum was 95% pro union in general 75% of the Cypriot population wanted the union
@stephmod7434
@stephmod7434 Жыл бұрын
And also most Turks lived in western Cyprus not northern.
@sakisd128
@sakisd128 Жыл бұрын
Cyprus is Greek island of Aphrodita! Viva la diva!
@mettz
@mettz Жыл бұрын
Also EOKA started the mass killing of Turkish Cypriots, people forget to mention that one.
@arisandreopoulos9247
@arisandreopoulos9247 Жыл бұрын
@@mettz this is Turkish propaganda for an excuse to invade . Others started the mass killing ... See Greek genocide
@hattorihanzo9896
@hattorihanzo9896 Жыл бұрын
@@mettz mass killings? Cmon bro, ye there where hideous acts but in a small scale plus some them where actually perpetrated by turks, example? The mass murder of a family by axes in a Turkish conclave(can't recall the name rn it started from M) which was initially declared it was done by Greeks but later proven it was an act by turks.....
@alanwatson4249
@alanwatson4249 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. A very important strategic position in the Eastern Mediterranean. UK/US air bases. Could conflict erupt over the island?
@ata9879
@ata9879 Жыл бұрын
Give 1 island (Cyprus) in the mediterannean sea to muslims, Christians are egoistic.
@stephenlight647
@stephenlight647 Жыл бұрын
Only if Sultan Erdogan gets greedy.
@streetbroom
@streetbroom Жыл бұрын
Nop.. It's way too hot (weatherwise) and people still remember and see the perils and scars of war =((
@Llyebbay
@Llyebbay Жыл бұрын
uk / us ? What is this ?
@axax7668
@axax7668 Жыл бұрын
Cyprus is just a giant aircraft carrier in the Eastern Mediterranean with the best restaurants and cuisine!!
@samsami9472
@samsami9472 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you mention even for 10sec the struggle of the Greek Cypriots against Great Britain, 1955-1959, with the aim of Union with Greece?? Great Britain solemnly lost yet another colony, with terrible losses and of course did not accept the union, but proposed independence which led to the current situation. I also believe that the gas-oil issues were known since then, so surely Great Britain did not want the island to end up in the hands of either the Greeks or the Turks... To this day, the moral perpetrator of the dead Greeks of Cyprus remains Great Britain executed by Turkey.
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
If Cyprus was ceded to Greece or Turkey, there would be undoubted fighting like the Troubles in Ireland. It could be even worse today.
@axax7668
@axax7668 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't he mention Greeks from Greece killing Turkish Cypriots to get intercommunal violence and demonise the Turkish Cypriot community. Where is your love, Christianity on the island of Aiphrodite.
@samsami9472
@samsami9472 Жыл бұрын
@@axax7668 this is the narrative of Turks...
@axax7668
@axax7668 Жыл бұрын
@@samsami9472 as long as people are divisive no love will manifest in their life be good and be happy!!
@samsami9472
@samsami9472 Жыл бұрын
@@axax7668 There are not just people in Cyprus. There are Greeks who have 3500 years of history in this land and Turks who came 3000 years after Greeks, as conquers...
@georgemavrantonis9903
@georgemavrantonis9903 6 ай бұрын
Very balanced and well explained. Congrats.
@thewarriorfrog
@thewarriorfrog Жыл бұрын
Ottomans conquered Cyprus from Venetians, Venetians took from Crusaders, Crusaders took from Romans… Where were Greeks lol🤣
@magisterthefirst
@magisterthefirst Жыл бұрын
As a greek this video is painful
@ozelyakup6427
@ozelyakup6427 2 ай бұрын
Yes because there is some truth in it
@carloswilson5910
@carloswilson5910 Ай бұрын
What a great job! So well explained!
@varathan3558
@varathan3558 Жыл бұрын
You could just say from the beginning that West and the British never wanted the union and made everything possible to prevent it.
@Mysterious-BOy-1.
@Mysterious-BOy-1. Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your this work,,, plz keep uploading of such historical videos.
@Chris10095
@Chris10095 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and informative vid. However 2 things that I noticed:1) The Greek flag when vertical the cross is on the left side. 2) The EOKA B that did the coup against President Makarios was sent and supported by the military junta of General Ioannidis.
@damianmichaelides179
@damianmichaelides179 Жыл бұрын
Witg the coup happening in Greece and then Cyprus with the support of the US goverment who were strongly anti a left leaning political party coming into power in Greece or Cyprus. EOKA B was a minority nationalist group supported by the Junta. The majority of Cypriots backed the democratically elected Makarios with EOKA B and the Greek national guard committing the coup in Cyprus. If Greek soldiers never landed on Cyprus (uninvited) breaching the agreement then Turkey would never have had a legitimate reason to have launched the invasion. I suspect the US played all sides. Telling the Greeks to commit the coup creating the pretext for Turkey to be able to invade. Turkey always wanted Cyprus back after the British annexation. Cypriots were nothing more than by standers to Greek soldiers landing and breaching the London and Zürich Agreements.
@issith7340
@issith7340 Жыл бұрын
Greece never invaded the island, nor occupied half of it, didn’t kill all these people or either stole all that properties of other people. When turkey invaded cyprus 17% of the population were Turkish and 83% were Greeks.
@issith7340
@issith7340 Жыл бұрын
@@damianmichaelides179 turkey never had a legitimate reason to invade cyprus , since nobody else invaded cyprus before turkey. A few greek armies came only after, to defend the invasion. At the same time British army did nothing to defend the greek population from the turks or the country from turkey. We did not forget that either.
@damianmichaelides179
@damianmichaelides179 Жыл бұрын
@@issith7340 You are correct. The officers of the Greek national guard were already stationed in Cyprus. Makarious found out that the Junta was planning to overthrow his goverment and he tried to return the officer back to Greece. There was nothing Makarios could do to stop the coup in the end. Nikos Sampson was then in charge and Turkey used this as there excuse to invade and occupy 37% of the island where 80% of the homes and businesses were situated to accommodate 18% of the Turkish Cypriots community.
@ata9879
@ata9879 Жыл бұрын
Give 1 island (Cyprus) in the mediterannean sea to muslims, Christians are egoistic.
@sonoildiavolo8840
@sonoildiavolo8840 Жыл бұрын
always open for info.
@melinadiamantaki7445
@melinadiamantaki7445 Жыл бұрын
Learn all the Greek history. It's thousands years of history!
@furkanmengi3797
@furkanmengi3797 Жыл бұрын
I really respect Greek history, it is a very deep-rooted civilization and it covers a very large part of history, but the sad thing is that the Greeks are not as effective as in the past and they are in the background, for example, we Turks from East Asia to the European Hun Empire and from there to Anatolia, the Middle East And we have established great empires in a very large area in Central Asia for many years, and thanks to these, there are still many Turkish states in the world, only in Europe more Turks than the Greek population. but the Greeks could not do the same. It is really sad that a nation that had a great influence in history is left in such a small number today. Also, Greeks and Turks lived together amicably for many years, especially after the Ottoman Empire. We are brothers and we should not stay away from each other for trivial reasons.
@crazylittlething6762
@crazylittlething6762 Жыл бұрын
It is such a shame that despite their shared cultural heritage and commonalities, the Turkish and Greek communities have not been able to establish peaceful coexistence over time.
@jayski9667
@jayski9667 5 ай бұрын
The establishment of Slavic populations in the Balkans was greatest in the north, with a genetic contribution of 50-60% in present-day Serbia, and gradually less towards the south, with 30-40% in mainland Greece and up to 20% in the Aegean islands.
@jayski9667
@jayski9667 5 ай бұрын
Genetically mainland Greeks have 30-40% Slavic dna,mainland Greeks have dna connections with Greek speaking Cypriots!!!!
@Original_Master
@Original_Master Жыл бұрын
I like how you skipped over the part where the Greeks instigated this war with ethnic cleansing and genocide forcing Turkey to intervene... You just made it look like Turkey got involved for some minor reason as the aggressor? The Greeks did try take the Island by force which is why Turkey engaged with its military...
@degoose2447
@degoose2447 Жыл бұрын
Turkey throughout history and even today is responsible for ethic cleansing assimilation of other cultures and currently a dictatorship
@degoose2447
@degoose2447 Жыл бұрын
Cyprus is either independent or its a part of Greece due to no one seeing as turkey has no recognition of any rights to the lands only an independent Cyprus is supported
@manos5464
@manos5464 Жыл бұрын
Now that you talk about ki lling, why you turkistani don'y recognize the Genocide against Armenins (1.5M), Greeks (350.000) and Assyrians (250.00)?
@Original_Master
@Original_Master Жыл бұрын
@@manos5464 The Ottoman officer's were on trial in Malta for crimes against Armenian's, they all were found not guilty... As for the Greeks and Assyrians, can you explain? Before you answer though, I can see your sly tactics, try and divert away from the topic involving other parts of history, but go on enlighten me?
@tarikoncu8909
@tarikoncu8909 3 күн бұрын
​@@manos5464Türkler Ermenileri öldürmedi ermeni nüfus 1914 te 1.2 milyon nasıl 1.5 milyon ermeni öldürüldü bu Ermenilerin başarıyla uydurduğu bir hikayedir ayrıca Ermeniler arşivlerini neden açmıyor??????? Yunanlıların 1912 Balkan savaşlarında 1919 da yaptığı katliamlardan bahset yüz binlerce Türk öldürüldü
@LichsuhoathinhDrabattle
@LichsuhoathinhDrabattle Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I'd be really interested in countries history ✨😎‼
@kaanaslan3003
@kaanaslan3003 Жыл бұрын
Prior to 1980s thousands of Turkish Cypriots who held British passports emigrated to UK fearing massacres. While a few hundred thousands Turkish Cypriots live in the island of Cyprus today, even bigger Turkish Cypriot diaspora lives still in UK to this day. Turkish Cypriots were systematically targeted and economically isolated despite of overwhelmingly supporting UN unification plan in 2004. On the other hand, Greek Cypriots who opposed unification were rewarded with EU membership and now live in prosperity (relatively speaking).
@expressdotpc
@expressdotpc Жыл бұрын
What diaspora?
@geo322242
@geo322242 Жыл бұрын
Northern Cyprus would be part of Cyprus and EU if Turkey didn't invade. Your problem is with Turkey. The passports you have are from Cyprus, right? Then why do you let Turkey dictate your fates? Turkey can't even take care of their own people. Look the living standards of the average Turk... I hope one day you understand what is going on and how Turkey is using Turkish Cypriots. And may I add that Turkish Cypriots were afraid because Turkish did massacres and genocides throughout history? So they thought maybe it is our turn to be the victims? Turkish have been massacring Greeks, Syrians, Armenians, Pontus, etc for ages! Check your history and you understand your future.
@user-nf6qg1gv6i
@user-nf6qg1gv6i Жыл бұрын
As a Ukrainian, I say that Cyprus is Greece
@carolederent7638
@carolederent7638 Жыл бұрын
@@user-nf6qg1gv6i Crimea and all of the Ukraine belongs to Russia
@seriesmovies4195
@seriesmovies4195 Жыл бұрын
@@user-nf6qg1gv6i And Ukraine is Russian.
@luxuryhub1323
@luxuryhub1323 Жыл бұрын
An accurate, objective and unbiased telling of the Cyprus events? That's a rare sight. This is why I love this channel.
@chraman169
@chraman169 Жыл бұрын
Not really. The ethnic cleansings commited by the Greeks against the Turks, which are the reason Turkey invaded, are not mentioned. Also it is being said that Greeks are a majority, but they had only been a majority for like 50 years then. in the early 19th century, Turks were a majorty but most were forcefully expelled, resulting in a Greek majority.
@Sonic-di9pj
@Sonic-di9pj Жыл бұрын
@@chraman169 Any sources of this?
@themisvoul1045
@themisvoul1045 Жыл бұрын
@@Sonic-di9pj there are no sources because it's Turkish fake history. For example in the 19th century Greeks had no power to force anyone out e.t.c. The British were also controlling Greece even after independence so it wasn't possible for Greeks to have any initiative.
@keeshans5768
@keeshans5768 Жыл бұрын
@@Sonic-di9pj just look up EOKA-B ethnic cleansing, this is not a debated topic. Thee are facts.
@Sonic-di9pj
@Sonic-di9pj Жыл бұрын
@@keeshans5768 Honestly not a single result came up, if you have anything feel free to send it over. But what was even more interesting was the statement that Turks were forcibly expelled in Cyprus, by whom, when and with what pretext?
@christianaandreou441
@christianaandreou441 Жыл бұрын
8.27 Greece did not support Cyprus militairily. only 300 soldiers from reece arrived in Cy the 21st of July ... while turkey was invading with tehths of thousands of troops... and althought the crek-cypriot army was ordered to respect the seasefire the turkish army was advancing during the whole period of the nogotiations... the greek prime minister said to the president of cyprus.. "you are on yourown" Why? becaudse the NAto allie , USA, managed to hold back greece from a miitairy response in order to avoid a war between two NATO allies. so, Cyprus was sucrifised in order to restrore democracy in Greece and keep NATO united...
@zottirgen
@zottirgen 10 ай бұрын
Those 15000 bloody killers sent with Grivas were from Papue New Guinea, right ?
@nissangtrnismo512
@nissangtrnismo512 9 ай бұрын
So not because you chickened out?
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 ай бұрын
Biggest betrayal in Cypriot history
@EseHugo
@EseHugo Жыл бұрын
How do you make these animations?
@aksman1964
@aksman1964 10 ай бұрын
It wasn’t an invasion. It was an intervention
@najemfarah9540
@najemfarah9540 Жыл бұрын
You started your story from the 16th century. It will be better to start with a small briefing. Why the Cypriots speak greek? It means that before the Venecians and the Ottomans they was part of Greece or no??
@arxatoli6775
@arxatoli6775 Жыл бұрын
Cypriots were greek since the beggining of antiquity, and even tho conquered by hundreds of empires the population always remained Greek. And after the byzantine empire 1300 years post ancient Greece it fell to the ottomans and Turks migrated in the island, and even tho they did Greeks were always about 80% more than the Turks. And the fact that most of those "turks" are actually converted Greeks. And Turkish Cypriots at the north over the age of 40 can understand and speak perfect cypriot greek, because Turkish wasn't really spoken that much in the island , Greek was always the official language.Cyprus is the last civilization which preserved ancient greek dialects, sayings and Culture. Infact the proto-greek alphabet was found in cyprus at 1500BC. Thats older than Greece its self. Sea settlers called Myceneans were the first greeks which settled in Crete and Cyprus and THEN expanded throughout nowadays Greece. Cyprus is as greek as it Gets and maybe even more Greek than Greece itself. Archeology throughout the island speaks for itself. Sadly its history was stolen from it due to the Ottoman Megalomaniacal Ambitions to discredit the greeks as a whole. And Even the British. No one was willing to allow Greeks in either Greece or Cyprus to grow in power. Because their land and historical claims are TREMENDOUS and the Turks understand that very well. They know what they have isn't theirs hence the flags everywhere. They need to convince themselves.
@vox_dei_365
@vox_dei_365 Жыл бұрын
@@arxatoli6775 ottomans captured Cyprus from venetians, and before them the island was under control of crusaders, before them Roman empire.. the first inhabitants of the island was ancient Anatolian nations, phonecians and ancient egyptians. The language shifted to Greek after Byzantium empire..
@arxatoli6775
@arxatoli6775 Жыл бұрын
@@vox_dei_365 You need to use your google better. Cyprus has Ancient Greek cities all over it dating back at 9th century BCE. Look this up yourself . Ancient Kition (Now Larnaca) Is full of proto- ancient greek artifacts if you ever visited a mesuem before. And do some searches on the PHONECIANS aswell the first settlers of cyprus. They're basically greek , they spoke greek with a northen hebrew dialcet kind of just like now. Phonecians is a greek word derived from the Bird phinikas. GREEKS adopted their alphabet from the phonecians . And theyre basically one in the same with Myceneans. You need to understand that back then everyone was genetically closer due to the small populations. Im talking BC you talkin 1600 like BRUH you know how recent that is ? Thats only like 4 generations before your grandmother. And also just because someone CONQUERED the island that doesnt change its population was still GREEK as it always was. You're PROBABLY a turk judging by your limmited sources of histroical FACTS due to your lust of your past empires STOLEN glory. Youre just in denial to the facts. History also teaches us that its safe to say 80% of turks are converted,Indoctrinated (or raped and forced to birth children back then) With GREEK WOMEN. Hence your white populationn because of course we all know Turks came from ASIA. Dont be afraid do a DNA test. Or better yet, Google what you're afraid to admit. The facts dont care about your feelings Cyprus is as old as 7000 BCE . You sound stupid or worse yet BIASED when you begin a story about a RACE before even mentioning the populations origins. Dna tests speak for them selves. Google them
@earendilonautikos
@earendilonautikos Жыл бұрын
@@arxatoli6775 so Mycenaeans we’re the first Greeks who settled in Crete and Cyprus. Mycenaeans we’re Greeks. From Greece. So how is Cyprus more Greek than Greece? It doesn’t even make sense. Cyprus should be united with Greece but dissolving the “greekness” of Greece is not working in your favour. It’s silly to say that Cyprus is more Greek than Athens and I wonder why don’t you see that.
@arxatoli6775
@arxatoli6775 Жыл бұрын
@@earendilonautikos Or Maybe you're just taking a sentence too literally. I was simply trying to prove a point that goes to say that Greeks and Cypriots just like Phoenicians and Myceneans were one in the same. Nobody tried to dissolve Greece's authenticity thats just a reach. And you went waay out of context with the matter at hand. Point is GENETICALLY Cypriots are Greeks just like The Mainland Greeks themselves and just like the Turks in Anatolia which are still in denial to historical facts. Idk why you took offense to that sentence when it was an obvious exhaturation. The fact that Cyprus's Greek roots and ancient language are being maintained should be a source of Pride for ALL Greeks and not a new reason to fight eachother.
@GwainSagaFanChannel
@GwainSagaFanChannel Жыл бұрын
here before the comment section turn into the next greko-turkic conflict
@gorcin7075
@gorcin7075 Жыл бұрын
One of my best friends is from Cyprus. He still says he is from Greece when they ask him... He was born and raised on Cyprus, as well as his parents, and all of them still identify as Greek.
@evrenforest2578
@evrenforest2578 Жыл бұрын
I am so sorry about him.
@louisemb6291
@louisemb6291 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I am Cypriot, and I identify as Greek because that is what I am after-all.
@gorcin7075
@gorcin7075 Жыл бұрын
@@evrenforest2578 It's not only him. All 6 of his friends I met identify as Greek too, and if I am to trust him, all of his school basically.
@TurquazCannabiz
@TurquazCannabiz Жыл бұрын
Lol and most Turkish Cypriots I know identify themselves as Cypriot. Greeks are way more butthurt over this whole affair than Turks are.
@kyriakosphilitas6950
@kyriakosphilitas6950 Жыл бұрын
@@gorcin7075 theres two reason for that either he doesnt wanna explain where cyprus is to other poeple because its bothersome or his parents are far right nationalist
@Paulynyc
@Paulynyc Жыл бұрын
Turkey had plans to partition the island since at least the 1950s. The British employed their time-tested “divide and conquer” strategy and fomented division on the island to hold on to it. When Turkey brutally invaded in 1974, they used the pretext of being a guarantor power but instead of restoring the constitutional order, they made a land grab and ethnically cleansed the north of a millennia-old Greek presence and illegally settled hundreds of thousands of Turkish mainland settlers, making Turkish Cypriots in the north (on whose behalf they invaded) into a vanishing minority in their own puppet state, unrecognized by no other country except Turkey.
@Trapligo
@Trapligo Жыл бұрын
Because Turkey and UK blocked the Greek control of Cyprus
@astrKoray
@astrKoray Жыл бұрын
Because the island was owned by the Turks for a very long time and the island is located very close to Turkey, just like the Greek islands.
@Trapligo
@Trapligo Жыл бұрын
@@astrKoray yeah but the island was owned by Greeks more time than Turks
@astrKoray
@astrKoray Жыл бұрын
@@Trapligo because Italy
@Trapligo
@Trapligo Жыл бұрын
@@astrKoray Italy never had really Cyprus only UK and Turkey had Cyprus on their control
@user-yp6ut2ot3s
@user-yp6ut2ot3s Жыл бұрын
@@astrKoray αφου δεν ηπηρχε τουρκια ολα ηταν ελλαδα; κοντα
@chrisklitou7573
@chrisklitou7573 Жыл бұрын
As someone with Greek Cypriot parents who lives in the UK People ask me this question all the time
@ata9879
@ata9879 Жыл бұрын
Give 1 island (Cyprus) in the mediterannean sea to muslims, Christians are egoistic.
@perseusarkouda
@perseusarkouda Жыл бұрын
And the reply should be because Cyprus is an independent nation. Cheers from a Greek.
@chrisklitou7573
@chrisklitou7573 Жыл бұрын
@@perseusarkouda it's because Cyprus and Greece are so similar people wonder why they don't just unite Just like Germany and Austria for example
@perseusarkouda
@perseusarkouda Жыл бұрын
@@chrisklitou7573 Austria and Germany are different nations too. Just because the ethnicity and the language is Germanic doesn't mean they have to be in a single nation. Also a bunch of nations are English too. The real solution to the Cypriot issue is to strongly support a sovereign nation of Cyprus.
@lightfurysmash63
@lightfurysmash63 Жыл бұрын
@@perseusarkouda Thats giving in to turkish demands.
@II-ug8ji
@II-ug8ji Жыл бұрын
lie and fallacy cyprus problem with a 10-minute video, you explained a clear subject change according to your job
@fidanras
@fidanras Жыл бұрын
10:57 When It is the Greeks the terms become "Simply attempting to take the island by force" , when to mention the same thing for the Turks the word becomes "Invasion"
@christos3280
@christos3280 Жыл бұрын
Difference is, Greece's Junta regime attempted a coup on a Greek island with the enactors of the coup being cypriots themselves, and Turkey being foreign invaders that try everything in their power to not let Greece develop.
@fidanras
@fidanras Жыл бұрын
@@christos3280 Turkey only prevented an extermination. We don't care about Greece's developments. And don't care to stop.
@christos3280
@christos3280 Жыл бұрын
@@fidanras Turkey enacted an extermination, not so long ago
@fidanras
@fidanras Жыл бұрын
@@christos3280 Never. Put this aside. I want to ask you something. Greeks in Greece these days are complaining about the immigrants. Have you ever asked yourself and develop an empathy , "Someday I may also be one of them?"
@christos3280
@christos3280 Жыл бұрын
@@fidanras My entire family was one of them. In the exact extermination I reffered to in my last comment.
@nikos_para2329
@nikos_para2329 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: USA and UK wanted the turks to invade Cyprus although greece was part of nato Makarios was pro Soviet and the western allies didn't like him USA and the military junta of grecce (set by usa) supported the military coup in Cyprus
@keeshans5768
@keeshans5768 Жыл бұрын
I was about say…. You can’t shift the blame entirely away from the Greek junta government, they incited the violence in Cyprus.
@christhomson8924
@christhomson8924 Жыл бұрын
cyprus is turkey and turkey is cyprus
@sachemofboston3649
@sachemofboston3649 Жыл бұрын
@@christhomson8924 How is Cyprus turkey when the majority of the population is Greek and has been since the earliest written records in Cyprus existed
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173 Жыл бұрын
@@sachemofboston3649 Not a Turk, but it is hard to deny that half of Cyprus is not Turkish now. How will these Turks be removed? Are you willing to invade and to cause ethnic cleansing, Greek tough guy? The best solution is just to forgive and to let go. The two-state solution is best for the world.
@christhomson8924
@christhomson8924 Жыл бұрын
@@sachemofboston3649 do u mean written records in greek history books?
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
Cypriot Greeks have a different language from MSG
@phaedon3408
@phaedon3408 Жыл бұрын
A dialect, not language
@thewarriorfrog
@thewarriorfrog Жыл бұрын
@@phaedon3408 🤣 barely intelligibile “dialect” lmao
@phaedon3408
@phaedon3408 Жыл бұрын
@@thewarriorfrog ?
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 ай бұрын
@@thewarriorfrogtell us what you know about the Cypriot dialect then?
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
Cypriot Greek has often been referred to as a dialect of Greek (Contossopoulos, 2000); a variety that is linguistically proximal to Standard Modern Greek (Grohmann and Kambanaros, 2016 Grohmann et al. 2016), which is the official language in the environment our participants acquire language. Although the official language in education and other formal settings is indeed Standard Modern Greek, research has shown the boundaries between the two varieties, Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek, and their distribution across different registers is not straightforward (Grohmann and Leivada, 2012, Tsiplakou et al. 2016). At times mixing is attested without code-switching being in place, while no official characterization has been provided for any of these terms in this specific context. The question arising in this context is whether the attested variants emerging in mixed speech repertoires are functionally equivalent for an individual speaker. The concept of "competing grammars goes back to Krich 11989, 1991), who proposed that speakers project multiple grammars to deal with ambiguous input This concept has been explicitly connected to the relation between Standard and Cypriot Greek (Papadopo et al. 2014; plaka 2014; Grohman et al 2017) The two varieties have differences in all levels of linguistic analysis and often monolingual speakers of Standard Modern Greek judge Cypriot Greek as unintelligible. At the same time, Greek Cypriot speakers do not always provide reliable judgments of their own speech since these are often clouded by sociolinguistic attitudes toward using the non-standard variety. Cypriot Greek lacks official codification and its status as a different language/variety is often denied by Greek Cypriots who may downplay the differences between Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek and describe the latter as just an accent (Arvaniti, 2010). As the discussion of the different variants will make clear in the next section, the two varieties have differences across levels of linguistic analysis and these differences vastly exceed the sphere of phonetics or phonology. All speakers of Cypriot Greek have exposure to Standard Modern Greek through education and other mediums and in this way, they are competent to different degrees in both varieties. We employ the term 'bilectal' (Rowe and Grohmann, 2013, 2014) to refer to the participants of this study, although it is not entirely clear that the varieties they are exposed to are Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek or that they are only two varieties, under the assumption that a continuum is in place. For instance, the term 'Cypriot Standard Greek' (Arvaniti, 2010) has been proposed to refer to an emerging variety that may count as the standard in the context of Cyprus. This would be a sociolinguistically 'high' variety (Ferguson, 1959) that is used in formal settings, although its degree of proximity with Standard Modern Greek is difficult to determine with precision because great fluidity is attested across different settings and geographical areas. At the school environment, for example, one notices the existence of three different varieties: Cypriot Greek, as the home variety that is used when students interact with each other, Standard Modern Greek, as the language of the teaching material, and another standard-like variety that incorporates elements from both varieties, and is present in the repertoire of both the students and the instructors (Sophocleous and Wilks. 2010; Hadjioannou et al., 2011; Leivada et al.. 2017).
@g3org3yo7
@g3org3yo7 Жыл бұрын
Cypriot Greek is more closer to the Ancient Greek. we (the Greeks from mainland Greece) change a little our language to be more easier to learn and its called "Demotiki Greek". and it became the standard official language in 1976. Another one was "Katharevousa" it was closer to ancient Greek and not so simplified Greek. Harder to learn more tones , more everything. Also Greeks speak a lot of dialects from any different part of Hellinism they are from. Example: people from the ionian islands speak their own dialect. people from Crete their own cretan dialect. People from Pontus (modern day Turkey) their own. I personally love the Ionian islands dialect, its more beautiful in my ears and sounds like singing. One more thing is that Cretan dialect and Cypriotic seems to be more similar than the rest. Like you Turks changed your language from Arabic writing to Latin in 1928.
@thewarriorfrog
@thewarriorfrog Жыл бұрын
@@g3org3yo7 Those are Hellenic languages not dialects btw
@g3org3yo7
@g3org3yo7 Жыл бұрын
@@thewarriorfrog εμείς μιλάμε την νέο ελληνική η οποία είναι διάλεκτος μαζί με τις υπόλοιπες. Η βάση είναι μια τα ελληνικά.
@spaghettiisyummy.3623
@spaghettiisyummy.3623 Жыл бұрын
The Comments on this video will certainly be filled With: Civil Discussions, Kindness, Understanding, Respect, and Peace!
@hellspawn6870
@hellspawn6870 Жыл бұрын
It has already become a grandstanding shitshow
@yanniskarageorgiou3573
@yanniskarageorgiou3573 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian and I'd be acting worse than everyone here if not for my religion
@user-oq4jh2ij4j
@user-oq4jh2ij4j Жыл бұрын
Kosovo Je Srbia
@spaghettiisyummy.3623
@spaghettiisyummy.3623 Жыл бұрын
@@user-oq4jh2ij4j Oh god..... MOM, GET THE POPCORN!
@yanniskarageorgiou3573
@yanniskarageorgiou3573 Жыл бұрын
@@user-oq4jh2ij4j Albania*
@Evagelopoulos862
@Evagelopoulos862 Жыл бұрын
Referendum on enosis (reunification) with Greece was held in Cyprus between 15 and 22 January 1950.Turkish minority was about 6%(a global Turkish population of 30000 persons) and most did not vote. Cypriot enosis referendum Location Cyprus Results Response Votes % Yes 215,108 95.71% No 9,639 4.29% Valid votes 224,747 100.00% Invalid or blank votes 0 0.00% Total votes 224,747 100.00% British authorities (Cyprus was a British Crown Colony) didn't accept the result. Thus began the liberation struggle of the Greek Cypriots against the British and the Turkish Cypriots.
@dervygaming9588
@dervygaming9588 Жыл бұрын
It was an unofficial referendum. It was done by the Church and pro-Enosis organisations and only Greek Cypriots could vote, not that Turkish Cypriots didn't vote.
@Evagelopoulos862
@Evagelopoulos862 Жыл бұрын
@@dervygaming9588 It was an official referendum and eveybody could vote. The result was to be expected ,94% of the population was Greek-Cypriots. Many former British colonies knows the dirty politic of British crown.
@krbn80
@krbn80 Жыл бұрын
@@Evagelopoulos862 ​ First of all, it can’t be a “reunification” because Greece was founded in 1800s, and Cyprus was never a part of it. It was only ruled by the Ptolemaic kingdom of Egypt between 332 and 58 BCE. That was as close as it could get to a “Hellenic rule”. All other times, it was vassal of Rome, or independent. Not “Greece”. And about the population… Stop f@rting numbers as you see fit. In 1960, there were 441,568 Greek speaking Cypriots, 103,822 Turkish speaking Cypriots, 3,627 Armenian Cypriots, 2,706 Maronites and 24,408 various others. So the Turkish speakers were around 1/4 of the Greek speakers. And that ratio is something that the Greek speaking Cypriots should be grateful, because unlike the previous “Hellenization” process in 333BCE, Ottomans did NOT transform the whole island into their own ethnicity. If they wanted, whole Cyprus would easily be Turkish speaking muslims in 300 years. Similar for all the regions they ruled. Furthermore, if Turks did not take Greece, Turkiye and Cyprus, all Greek speakers (Romans) on earth would be either Latinized or Arabized. Because as you know, when Turks arrived, Eastern Rome was under constant threat of Arabs. Roman king even married off his son to the Turkic Khazar princess Çiçek, in hopes of support from “Turks” against Arabs in 700s. That princes, even gave an heir to the throne. Apart from that, as you know, Ottomans took Greece and Cyprus from “Latins” and Balkanians, not Rome. They only took Istanbul directly from Rome. Cyprus was almost Catholicized when Ottomans took it and revived the Orthodox church. In short, Eastern Rome was a goner all the ways. And the Greek speakers would vanish in a few centuries, just like it happened in Latin America, and all Arabic speaking countries. It was only Turks who respected and preserved other ethnicities. And about the referandum… Cypriots were struggling to shake off the British yoke. At such a moment, a referandum was made with the options: 1- British yoke 2- Enosis That was the manipulative referandum which resulted with “yes to Enosis”. As long as there was no other option like “an independent Cypriot republic”, we can’t consider that all Cypriots “wanted” Enosis even if they had other options. It was only a choice between “yoke of Britain” and “yoke of Greece”, and they naturally chose yoke of Greece. And they were of course subject to plenty of propaganda from Greece for decades, to make up their minds. Or lets say “brainwash”. Today, majority of Cypriots don’t want Enosis, because they have their own country now. Even in 70s, Makarios, the legally elected president, was against it, and Greece had to make a coup to usurp the island. It was Turkiye who ended the coup and brough Makarios back from his survival hideout. That doesn’t sound like anyway near “democratic” to me.
@serhaneroglu5402
@serhaneroglu5402 10 ай бұрын
As a Turk, what is taken with blood is only given with blood.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 ай бұрын
🤓
@user-hu3se6te1e
@user-hu3se6te1e Жыл бұрын
I mean even when you look at the map the question should be ‘’Why isn’t Cyprus part of Turkey?’’
@ThemosTheGreat
@ThemosTheGreat Жыл бұрын
great documentary, very well explained.
@kyriakosphilitas6950
@kyriakosphilitas6950 Жыл бұрын
lmao no it wasnt
@burakcr7785
@burakcr7785 Жыл бұрын
biased
@iacovossarrou2245
@iacovossarrou2245 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I am from Cyprus, your video is good i would like to make a few comments: The USA was behind the coup in Cyprus because Makarios was flattering with USSR (a lot of dollars were send to EOKA B by the USA) and yes Cyprus was divided in order to annihilate the USSR's influence on the region. The Turkish Cypriots that time were not against Union with the Greece.. The British played a dark role ....
@knight8675
@knight8675 Жыл бұрын
R u Greek Cypriot ?
@dimitrisathanasiou9782
@dimitrisathanasiou9782 Жыл бұрын
@@knight8675 cypriots are greek
@axax7668
@axax7668 Жыл бұрын
At least someone has a brain!!! 🍻
@seth6964
@seth6964 Жыл бұрын
What? 😂😂😂
@deqwek99
@deqwek99 Жыл бұрын
us also supported invasion of cyprus.
@jackholler3572
@jackholler3572 Жыл бұрын
When will these kind of videos tell about bloody christmas
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 ай бұрын
The bloody Christmas in 1963 when Turkish Cypriots killed 174 Greek Cypriots and Greek Cypriots killed 364 Turkish Cypriots? I don’t think it compares to 200.000 refugees, 6.000 murdered and 1.200+ missing.
@captainspook8728
@captainspook8728 Жыл бұрын
Why you didnt mentioned 1955-59 revolution?
@AndreasPaschalis
@AndreasPaschalis Жыл бұрын
Many different cultures have passed through Cyprus over the centuries, but none of them came for a vacation. In fact, most came either to dominate or to plunder the island for its valuable resources such as copper and olive oil. However, they left behind a rich cultural heritage that can be found in many places of historical interest that are scattered throughout the island. Cyprus, as the crossroads of continents and trade routes, was an attractive point of strategic importance for many of its conquerors. Cyprus becomes Greek Cyprus was inhabited during the Neolithic era and most of its settlements were scattered along the coasts. Hellenism (ancient Greek colonization) began around 1400 BC. with the arrival of the first Mycenaean traders. Later (about 1050 BC) the island became Greek. Empires come and go Cyprus, after 750 BC, experienced successive conquests as empires came and left the island very often, starting with the Assyrians, Egyptians and Persians who liked the island so much that they all made sure to pass through it several times . All this happened until Alexander the Great in 333 BC. took action and the island then remained in the Hellenistic empire for 58 years. The Roman Period Cyprus became part of the Roman Empire in 58 BC. and it was also the first country ruled by a Christian after St. Paul's visit to the island. Cyprus remained under the Romans until 330 AD. when the empire began to decline and the Byzantine period began. Along with building many churches, the Byzantines moved away from their capital of Constantinople and remained on the island until 1191 when the English King, Richard the Lionheart appeared. Continuity and actions The post-Richard the Lionheart period was turbulent after the agreement to sell the island to the Knight Templar, who then sold Cyprus to Guy, Guy de Lusignan. This period worked for a while and Cyprus established a feudal system while Catholicism became the official religion of Cyprus. Venetians and Ottomans If you thought all the Venetians and Ottomans did was make curtains and blankets, you'd be wrong because they both invaded Cyprus. The Venetians came first in 1489 and were responsible for building the fortifications and walls of Nicosia and Famagusta that still stand today. They remained in Cyprus until 1571 when the Ottomans took over the island. They banned Catholicism and imposed Islam, while allowing Cypriots to practice their Greek Orthodox faith. The first British in Cyprus The British first came to Cyprus in 1878. However, they did not come for a holiday. Instead, they came to claim the island from the Ottomans (Turks) with the "Treaty of Cyprus" which meant it remained part of the Ottoman Empire. The British imposed their colonial rule in 1914 when the Turks decided to side with the Germans against the Allies during the First World War. By 1923, Turkey renounced all its rights to Cyprus and in 1925 it became part of the British colonial rule. By 1955, the Cypriots were getting fed up with this whole situation and decided it was time to take control of the island. This led to an armed struggle that lasted five years until 1960 when Cyprus gained its independence. The Greek junta and the Turkish invasion After agreeing to rule the island together with the Greek Cypriots as a proportionally represented minority, the Turkish Cypriots left the government in 1963 and Turkey threatened to invade Cyprus. Eleven years later, in 1974, after a coup, the threat of the Turks was carried out and the island has remained divided in two ever since. The dividing line between the two communities is still controlled by UN troops, while talks aimed at the reunification of Cyprus continue.
@Paltheus
@Paltheus Жыл бұрын
While I agree with your summary in general, the cherry picking of The Greek Junta period seemed quite skillful. I also probably wouldn't mention events that I would get blamed for or was ashamed of.
@aysinay
@aysinay Жыл бұрын
Could you explain us the actions of the enosis?
@Paltheus
@Paltheus Жыл бұрын
@UCTQ6HMFd1YZnSTOMvf3PLEQ So, omitting events like "the Christmas of 1963" and others building up to it (so I wonder why the Turks left the government then hmm?) described by the experience of Harry Scott Gibbons is presenting facts accurately? Also, if there is no right or wrong way to present facts, what the hell did we even go to school for? You are using the term "objective facts" where they are convenient for you even though they are obviously subjective. Using words like "proud" and "combated" doesn't do you any favours as you come across as a fascist with no intention to establish a peaceful relationship for all indigenous groups on the island.
@mdp1231
@mdp1231 Жыл бұрын
@@aysinay explain you what the majority of this island wanted?
@Paltheus
@Paltheus Жыл бұрын
@@mdp1231 The majority of the island did not want Enosis. Otherwise you wouldn't have had a coup. BTW, look up the word "coup".
@shaype3092
@shaype3092 Жыл бұрын
Gerçek tarihi bilmesem inanabilirdim. Daha taraflı bir tarih anlatımı görmedim
@evrencagin
@evrencagin Жыл бұрын
1960tan 74e sanki hiç kanlı katliamlar yaşanmamış da durup dururken sadece yunan cuntası yüzünden savaş çıkmış gibi anlatılmış. Her zamanki gibi taraflı ve gerçekleri gizleyen bir anlatım. Tarih bunlar yüzünden yanlış anlatılarak dizayn ediliyor
@3DHDcat
@3DHDcat Жыл бұрын
you were brainwashed
@srd895
@srd895 Ай бұрын
Gayet iyi anlatmış. Sorun nedir ki?
@asenilgaz8056
@asenilgaz8056 Жыл бұрын
the title of the video could also be "Why isn't Cyprus a Part of Turkey?" There are quite a few subjects wasnt mentioned in the video about why Turkey made a military operation on the island. what i'm really trying to say is that it's not black and white.
@user-po1di1bi5r
@user-po1di1bi5r Жыл бұрын
Because everything shows that the whole of Cyprus is Greece!!!!!!!!
@asenilgaz8056
@asenilgaz8056 Жыл бұрын
@@user-po1di1bi5r dont believe everything you hear, i lived in cyprus, i would say "everything show that the whole of Cyprus is British" but definetely not Greece.
@work90
@work90 Жыл бұрын
@@asenilgaz8056 I heard Cypriots are kinda Sus🤧
@user-nf6qg1gv6i
@user-nf6qg1gv6i Жыл бұрын
As a Ukrainian, I say that Cyprus is Greece
@wolf5329
@wolf5329 Жыл бұрын
Bro the majority of the population are Greeks...What are you on?
@orestisbe6978
@orestisbe6978 Жыл бұрын
Worth pointing out that a lot has changed in the 50 years since the invasion. For a start, the enosis movement is basically dead outside the furthermore right movements in either Cuprus or Greece, largely due to the EU. Also important to note, one of the biggest issues preventing the eventual reunification of the island, is Turkey's settler program, that's resulted in changing demographics of the island. And lastly, both Greek and Turkish Cypriots are, in principle, in favour of reunification.
@themisvoul1045
@themisvoul1045 Жыл бұрын
Indeed the enosis is dead since Greece is probably the only country where a citizen who identifies as a patriot is automatically considered as uneducated fascist, racist etc...
@PerryKobalt
@PerryKobalt Жыл бұрын
Let just say if Greeks got Cyprus it would cucked Turkey from Mediterranean sea
@invalidnoun4746
@invalidnoun4746 Жыл бұрын
Turkish Cypriots are in favour of reunification but Greek Cypriots are not, they rejected the Annan Plan.
@gilpaubelid3780
@gilpaubelid3780 Жыл бұрын
@@invalidnoun4746 Greeks rejected a ridiculous plan that was in favor of the Turks, not the unification. These are two different things
@chrisangelidis4322
@chrisangelidis4322 Жыл бұрын
@@invalidnoun4746 You wouldn't accept a plan that is 100% to Greek Cypriot favor either so your point is invalid
@blackeagle7947
@blackeagle7947 Жыл бұрын
Some of the reasons why Greece has so many haters on social media: You guys are some of the most ancient Europeans and are unique. You are not Germanic, Albanians,Turks, Slavic, Latin etc…Greeks are some of the few ancient Europeans that did not allow themselves to be absorbed by the big four (Germanic, Turks,Slavs and Latins). Islamophobia. A lot of people cannot comprehend the fact that a European people like the Greeks would be majority Christian Turks even to this day. These people do not seem to understand that Greeks practice their own very unique form of christianity and that they have no issue with their muslim Turkish or Atheist brethren. One can be orthodox turk and European…I mean I’m literally one myself lol. (P.S: I know not all freeks I mean greeks are orthodox turks and I know most othodox turks are pure greeks…please spare me this part). The Greeks have almost always been lone wolves. Despite being a tiny nation your politicians and people have almost always been rather bold and have chosen their own paths…even to your own detriment. This can be intimidating to some people I guess. Hell-ASS more recently has become a hub of art. It has churned out lots of global popstars and Hollywood actors like George Michael,Billy Zane and Irene Papas etc…though most of these artists are foreign born or moved out of Greece when they were young they still have a very deep rooted love for their motherland. It shows a strong level of patriotism in Greek culture. Greek men give off major alpha male vibes. A lot of men (especially Balkan men) envy the fact that greek men are perceived as more masculine then they are. It’s the whole small D energy vs big D energy. Greek men have big D energy (whether they have that big D or not, They've some strange sexual orientation by love it from behind lol). All of these things plus some more contribute to the obsession some people have with the origins of gteeks. People seek to exoticize things they do not comprehend or that intimidate them. Greeks are the Christian Turks of the European continent and with that comes the conspiracies and hate. Yasu re file!
@maxusers
@maxusers Жыл бұрын
I think is time you go love it from behind Fuck Eagle. We don't a problem that you address as Islamophobia, we have a problem with idiots. And it happens that there are a lot of you out there.
@atthadon
@atthadon Жыл бұрын
How old are you? 12? Otherwise you should visit a doctor with all those childhood thoughts and hatred you got.
@davidschmidt5709
@davidschmidt5709 Жыл бұрын
Great 👍
@thewarriorfrog
@thewarriorfrog Жыл бұрын
From this point of view, a large part of the 19 Cypriot historiography did not manage to achieve the substantial for the historian, to use a phrase by Eric Hobsbawm, overcoming of passions and political identities, 20⁰ identities that were of course created at the end or even after the Ottoman period. That is to say, that the national political identity of the Greek and the Turk, the national political ensembles of Greeks and Turks, realities of the post-Ottoman period in Cyprus are projected on the past of the 16th century. Thus, in 1571 Cyprus was conquered by the Ottomans and for the next three hundred and more years was a part of the Ottoman territory. The Greek Cypriot historiography uses for this transition and generally the entire Ottoman period the term Turkish rule a term that lends a national Turkish identity to Ottomans. A big part of traditional historiography refers to a Turkish state,²¹ mentioning a Turkish government, while correspondingly the conquered are included in another national identity, the Greek, which - and perhaps this is more important - at the time history is written, is in conflict with the Turkish. Already from the end of the 19th century, Greek Cypriot historiography states that during the Turkish rule "the spirit of the inhabitants fell to a pitiful point and poverty and misery and extreme ignorance, and depression of the national morale covered the island".23 The Orthodox on the island are defined by traditional historiography as a political group since "in the vizier's orders the participant in the defence of Famagusta Greek was a term that was generalised for all Greeks on the island". In relation to the population on the island the Turkish rule mentions that "after the occupation of Cyprus by the Turks the census that took place for tax pur poses revealed that the native Cypriot Greeks aged [...] in this population 20.000 30.000 Turks were added".25 It is also established that "the Turkish occupation brought to Cyprus many radical changes. The Turks supported the Greek population on the island in order not to give the opportunity to the peoples of Europe to be interested in the Cypriots […]”.26 And as it began with a national conflict that is how italso ends, since it is mentioned that “while the Turkish conquerors suppressed andpersecuted the Greeks on the island […]”.27 The existence therefore of a politicalnational group is considered given and every analysis of the Ottoman period func-tions in a way to bring to the forefront or reinforce the existence, even under difficultconditions, of such a group. This expressed the stereotyped view that the Cypriots“managed under the protection of the Church to maintain their religion, language,and national conscience as Greeks”.28 Even when relations are examined on differentlevels, even when they refer to the 17th century, these are characterised as relationsof the “Greeks and the Turks of Cyprus”.29 In the Turkish Cypriot historiography, the same perception is more or less fol-lowed; history is written under the same terms, the national terms but with one sub-stantial difference: The “Turks on the island” 30 are usually referred to as acomplimentary term of the word Ottomans and are placed on the side of the goodoften contrary to the “Greeks, Greek Cypriots” who are on the opposite side. Thesettlement of the “Turks”on the island is interpreted as something that broughtabout positive results for the entire island 31 and the local Ottoman administration isgenerally whitewashed. In short, Turkish Cypriot historiography also accepts theexistence of national groups. The Church of Cyprus expresses again the Greeks of Cyprus and its activities are mainly targeted against the Turks of Cyprus, 32 whilewithout hesitation the actions of the Prelates of 1600 in Cyprus are combined andidentified with the Akritas plan of the period after the independence. 33 The Prelatesare considered to express not only spiritually but also nationally the Orthodox of Cyprus while institutionally the Church of Cyprus is perceived as warring towardsthe local Turkish administration. 34 The Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot histo-riographies are identified when they project the present on the past, a past howeverthat is perceived and interpreted from a very different national point of view. Michael, M., Kappler, M. and Gavriel, E., 2009. Ottoman Cyprus: A Collection of Studies on History and Culture Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz, pp.14,15.
@SP19NC
@SP19NC Жыл бұрын
Greek (🇬🇷) guy here! I ADORE Cyprus! It’s my second home, but I am glad it’s independent! I do believe we’re one nation, but Cyprus is fine the way it is! Our language is safer this way! It’s spoken in two countries! Greece’s economy has been unstable, so Cyprus would just be destroyed if we united. We’re family! We’re a beautiful Hellenic family! But we have to stay like that! One nation, two states! Mainland Greeks and Cypriot Greeks love each other! Being separate doesn’t harm us!
@realmart3451
@realmart3451 Жыл бұрын
So no Enois? Im not Greek or turkish but don't cypriot greeks want to unite with Greece?
@SP19NC
@SP19NC Жыл бұрын
@@realmart3451 Some Greeks (🇬🇷) and some Cypriot Greeks do. Some others don’t. I don’t. I like us being two states. It’s funner that way! I like to learn about our differences, I like the fact that the Greek language is used in two states, I like the beautiful relationship between us (which is something we don’t see every day!). I like the fact that we’re separate. All I want is the liberation of Northern Cyprus. The invasion of Turkey was ILLEGAL. Many Greek Cypriots were obliged to leave. And that’s unfair, because we’ve lived on the island since antiquity. And someone will say: “Turkish Cypriots also had to leave”. Well, they caused it! They invaded the island 🤷🏻‍♂️
@karras.apostolos
@karras.apostolos Жыл бұрын
Λοιπόν, πρώτων οικονομική αυτονομία μπορεί να είναι μια λύση. Για τη διάλεκτο δεν νομίζω να αλλοιωθεί πολλή λόγο της μεγάλης απόστασης και ότι και σε άλλα μέρη της Ελλάδος υπάρχουν διάλεκτοι. Και τέλος το να είμαστε χωρισμένη κάνει κακό τώρα ναι δεν χαλάει κάτι αλλά άμα λες ότι ναι είμαι Έλληνας αλλά δεν θέλω να είμαι Έλληνας (ως πολίτης της Ελληνικής Δημοκρατίας) τότε σε 20, 50, 100 χρόνια θα λες ότι είμαι Κύπριος (το ίδιο γίνεται και με το Μακεδονικό ζήτημα). Άρα μια ένωση με κάποια αυτονομία ή μια μελλοντική ένωση δεν κάνει κακό σε μια Ελλάδα μεταρρυθμισμένει με οικονομία παρόμοια με της Κύπρου θα είναι η καλύτερη ώρα αλλά για αρχή πρέπει και η Ελλάδα αλλά και η Κύπρος να προετοιμαστούν και μάθουν την Ελληνικότητα έξω από την Ελληνική Δημοκρατία. 🇬🇷🇨🇾(Β. Ήπειρος)(Μοναστήρι) !
@Kebab_with_extra_garlic_mayo
@Kebab_with_extra_garlic_mayo Жыл бұрын
@@SP19NC Sneaky of you not to mention this began when EOKA B tried to do Enosis and attacked Turkish Cypriots. Turkish invasion came only after that.
@balclava4937
@balclava4937 Жыл бұрын
Much territory should return to greece, including the great city
@cg723
@cg723 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to talk about the cyprus emergency of 1955-59 where cypriots fought the british to gain independance
@SpirosA48
@SpirosA48 Жыл бұрын
We didn't fight british to gain independence. The purpose of the battle was to free Cyprus from British so we could unite with Greece.
@cg723
@cg723 Жыл бұрын
@@SpirosA48 yeah my bad sorry
@istorikoiperipatoi
@istorikoiperipatoi Жыл бұрын
What an exellent presentation!
@leventvah
@leventvah Жыл бұрын
I think your next video is going to be why isn't brasil a part of portugal and than why isn't mexico a part of spain and than you will sing john lenons imagine...
@uahistukraine1305
@uahistukraine1305 Жыл бұрын
Nice objective video!
@depekthegreat359
@depekthegreat359 Жыл бұрын
Cyprus is one of my favourite respective countries daily and ever in this world and other planets and I fully hope that the country would go on ruling as a nation without being conquered by any other nation,good friends!!!LONG LIVE,CYPRUS!!!🇨🇾
@yanniskarageorgiou3573
@yanniskarageorgiou3573 Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be getting conquered they wanted to join Greece but couldn't
@ata9879
@ata9879 Жыл бұрын
Give 1 island (Cyprus) in the mediterannean sea to muslims, Christians are egoistic.
@aromanian-socialist
@aromanian-socialist Жыл бұрын
cypriots want greece not cyprus lmao they only like it because its a tax heaven
@Llyebbay
@Llyebbay Жыл бұрын
Grreece and Cyprus have the same Greek Language the same Greek National Anthem and the same Greek Nation
@geeman1031
@geeman1031 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Turkey 🇹🇷 Great warriors
@ipsiz1929
@ipsiz1929 8 ай бұрын
Turkey was a guarantor country according to the Cyprus constitution and it was not an illegal intervention as the Greeks say. The coup in Cyprus gave rise to Turkey's right to legally intervene in the island. As for the issue of unification from the island, the Greek side. Although they did not accept the plan prepared by the united nations for the unification of the island in 2004 with a charity close to 70 percent, the international community Turkish side continues to be punished despite the Turkish side voting yes by over 80 percent and continues to eat the blessings of the Greek EU by stealing the right of the Turkish side.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 ай бұрын
Turkey was only a ‘guarantor power’ because Britain made it. This guarantor colonial bs doesn’t really align with the idea of a sovereign state. Second of all, nothing within the treaties (including the guarantor status) and international law warranted an invasion, displacement of 200.000 people and cold murder of 7.000 people and continuing occupation. Not to mention how Turkey never declared war, but invaded without any warning, which used to be a war crime and is still considered customary. The Annan plan was the most racist thing ever made by the UN. It legalised the existence of hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers in Cyprus, while it provided no provisions for resettlement of Cypriot refugees, who still legally own houses in the occupied north. As for the Turkish Cypriots, they always had and have the right to freely reside within the republic controlled areas, and they are automatically subscribed in the voting catalogues. Back to the Annan plan, it suggested a federation system, which would give disproportionate voting power to the Turks. The Annan plan was unacceptable and antidemocratic.
@chansesyres4117
@chansesyres4117 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Formed the Ottoman Empire last night.
@IsmetKim
@IsmetKim Жыл бұрын
Do you know what is the Funny part ? When Greek Cypriots questions the Turkeys invasion it's Really funny. I don't have any problem with Greek Cypriots as a Turkish Cypriot. We were neighbors, friends, family that almost have the same culture with different religions. But because of Actions of EOKA-B and TMT here we are, Divided.. Hopefully we will Unite one day when we forget the atrocities that committed by both community. Time will tell if we can.
@nihil_hd1598
@nihil_hd1598 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully Cyprus will be united as an independent and doesnt end up in catastophe like Cyprus
@supersquirrel7546
@supersquirrel7546 Жыл бұрын
More importantly, I learned people of Cyprus are called Cypriot(s). I would have ignorantly guessed 'Cyprusians', 'Cypranese', or 'Cyprusish'. Now I just need to know how to insult a Cypriot (if I ever make friends with a true Cypriot). Would I insult him/her as an Asian, a European or an Eurasian?
@kostaskanakaris7721
@kostaskanakaris7721 Жыл бұрын
As a Greek you would insult so european
@piklachu1894
@piklachu1894 Жыл бұрын
Tell him s/he is a bast*rd of the Mediterranean. If the person doesn't laugh, s/he has no sense of humour and self-sarcasm.
@manos5464
@manos5464 Жыл бұрын
The Greeks one are Europeans. The turkish are settlers from ottoman times and clearly middle eastern!
@metekorkmaz2129
@metekorkmaz2129 Жыл бұрын
@@manos5464 Turks are Central Asian and Turkey is a Eurasian country. There are people of all backgrounds in Turkey.
@shahedamere6976
@shahedamere6976 Жыл бұрын
“Why isn’t Cyprus a part of Greece” Sees turkey highlighted “Ah shit,here we go again”
@socrates8605
@socrates8605 Жыл бұрын
Im Pretty Sure At Some Point Before The Invasion Turkey Said That they should have Split The Island,But The Greeks Said No
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
What is your point, exactly? You've managed to make a sentence without actually saying anything.
@socrates8605
@socrates8605 Жыл бұрын
@@ericdillingham6858 wym?
@ericdillingham6858
@ericdillingham6858 Жыл бұрын
@@socrates8605 I'm asking you what you mean.
@hulergun
@hulergun Жыл бұрын
You are right Turkish Cypriots were advocating division of the island . Greeks said no advocating enosis. That led to Turkish operation supported by US at the time.
@ThinkTwice2222
@ThinkTwice2222 Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced like "Hoonta"
@vangelisb8776
@vangelisb8776 Жыл бұрын
''Junta'' is actually derived from latin , and in english it is pronounced as in the video. In Greek, however, it is indeed pronounced as ''Hoonta''.
@Llyebbay
@Llyebbay Жыл бұрын
The Greek word is δικτατορια - thictatoria
@vangelisb8776
@vangelisb8776 Жыл бұрын
@@Llyebbay Correct, but Junta is also used in Greece (pronounced as Hoonta).
@Llyebbay
@Llyebbay Жыл бұрын
@@vangelisb8776 επισημως εις την Ελληνικην ειναι η λεξις Δικτατορια Χουντα ειναι ισπανικης προελευσεως λεξις και χρησιμοποιειται περισσοτερο ως ανεπισημη εκ μερους αριστερων
@vangelisb8776
@vangelisb8776 Жыл бұрын
@@Llyebbay Well I'm still hearing the word all the time though here in Greece when people refer to that particular regime. Ειδικότερα οι παππούδες μου σχεδόν πάντα αναφέρονται στην "Χούντα". Τώρα δεν γνωρίζω τις πολιτικές τους προτιμήσεις να είναι ειλικρινής. Πάντως προσωπικά έχω ακούσει και τους δύο όρους.
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
The writer uses the ambiguous term “Hellene,” which generally means “pagan” in Byzantine Greek. Plethon and his followers used the term almost to the exclusion of all others when referring to their own countrymen. Nagy., 2003. Modern Greek Literature. Taylor & Francis, p.30. " In its final centuries , the Byzantine Empire was also called " Romania . " Remnants of this Roman heritage are still evident in such terms as " Rum " and " Rumeli . Georgius, Philippides, M. and Macarius, 1980. The fall of the Byzantine empire. Amherst, MA: Univ. of Massachusetts Pr., p.2. Given Gennadios ' strong religious and traditional orientation , one would expect him to adhere carefully to the traditional Byzantine nomenclature wherein Hellene signified pagan and Rhomaios Byzantine . Ćurčić, S. and Mouriki, D., 2019. The Twilight of Byzantium. Princeton: Princeton University Press, p.9. And there is also evidence that the word 'Hellene' now meant 'pagan', and Justinian did conduct persecutions of Hellenes. Scott, R., n.d. Byzantine chronicles and the sixth century. The Byzantine Empire was officially called the Empire of the Romans, not the Greeks, Hellenes, or whatever. And if we proceed from the northern theory of the formation of the state, then we could not know about the Hellenic Greeks, Venetian-Venets in any way due to the lack of direct contacts. At that time, the word “Hellene” among the Romans meant a pagan and a traitor. Attila Kagan of the Huns from the kind of Velsung Kindle Edition by Соловьев Сергей Юрьевич (Author) The ancient Hellenes were conquered by the Romans . Emperor Justinian destroyed the last vestiges of Hellenic civilisation , and state Christianity created a new civilisation on the ruins of the old . Koliopoulos, G. and Veremēs, T., 2007. Greece: the modern sequel. London: Hurst & Company, p.242. Hellenes as they were called, were persecuted by the enforcement of these general rules; Justinian endeavored, above all things, to deprive them of education, and he had the University of Athens closed in 529; at the same time ordering wholesale conversations. The Cambridge Medieval History volumes 1-5 by John Bagnell Bury, Paul Dalen (Goodreads Author) (Editor) And there is also evidence that the word 'Hellene' now meant 'pagan', and Justinian did conduct persecutions of Hellenes. The world of Classics in the sixth century was not entirely rosy. Scott, R., n.d. Byzantine chronicles and the sixth century It is believed that there was some kind of trade route, but the object of exchange is not clear. The Baltic States could offer amber, but the path along the Elbe and then the Danube is better and safer than the path "From the Varangians to the Greeks" invented by idle historians. First, where did the Greeks come from? The Byzantine Empire was officially called the Empire of the Romans, not the Greeks, Hellenes, or whatever. And if we proceed from the northern theory of the formation of the state, then the Veneti Veneti could not know about the Greek-Hellenes, due to the lack of direct contacts. At that time, the word "Hellene" among the Romans meant a pagan and a traitor. And the term Varangian, unknown even among the Scandinavians, at least in Saxon Grammar it does not occur, from the word at all. The way from Wagry sounds more reasonable, and where? If we translate the term "Hellene" as a pagan, then we get that the way from Wagri to the east was the way of pagan pilgrims. Russia the formation of the state in the 9th century Veneds and the severjans (northerners), part of the Huns, which became the basis of a new community Kindle Edition by Solovyov Sergey (Author) Although the Breviarum has some major flaws, including a lacuna for nearly the entire reign of Constans II (r. 641-668), it is nonetheless one of the most important sources for his tory from the reign of Phocas through Constantine V-in no small part due to the fame of its author rather than the work's intrinsic merit.79 Nikephoros' use of names in this text is somewhat idiosyncratic. This short history does not have much on language-the sole mention of Latin names it 'Itaλ@v qwvn.80 He never refers to Greek, but 'Hellene' is invari ably a pejorative term, used in the sense of meaning 'pagan. On the other hand, he regularly glosses 'Christians' as meaning 'Romans' in a cultural and even political sense. Like other Greek-writing authors of this period, Nikephoros displays a high degree of laxity of precision in his terminology. In spite of the relatively relaxed attitudes adopted by contemporaries with respect to linguistic labels, it is clear that the later medieval and mod ern colloquial usage of the signifier Roman' for the Greek language is unprecedented in the early middle ages. Where the 'Roman tongue" is mentioned in the sources, it is always Latin which is signified-and this is consistent from Procopius in the sixth century through Constantine VII in the tenth. WHALIN, D., 2022. ROMAN IDENTITY FROM THE ARAB CONQUESTS TO THE TRIUMPH OF ORTHODOXY. [S.l.]: PALGRAVE MACMILLAN, p.31.
@user-nb8my7uz3s
@user-nb8my7uz3s Жыл бұрын
Really till the 4th crusade at 1204 the word Έλλην had a negative meaning as it was synonym to pagan. But this changed after the 4th crusade and the collapse of Byzantine empire. In the Greeks prevailed antilatin spirit and then reappeared the word Έλλην. But this doesn’t mean for all this time Byzantines didn’t had Greek consciousness. They knew that they were progeny of the Greeks and the word rum/Ρωμιός was synonym to Greek. Characteristics are the words of plython “our genus is Greek as it proves from our education and our language”
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173 Жыл бұрын
@@user-nb8my7uz3s The usage of the ethnonym "Greek" was rarely employed in byzantine-Roman social circles and certainly it was not as widespread after 1204 as you are insinuating. "Greek" or "Hellen" also still carried a negative connotation well after the 4th Crusade as witnessed in the History of Michael "the Dux" Doukas who used the word Greek or Hellenic to denote the ancient Greeks as satanic actors. The byzantine-Romans also did not claim to be the offspring of the ancient Greeks. In fact, there are many bibliographical sources where byzantine-Romans claim descent from non-Greek ethnicities such as the Lycaonians, Lydians, Phrygians, Isaurians, Armenians, and yes even the classical Romans from Rome itself. Plethon is an outlying example non representative of byzantine-Romans. His ostracism outside of the Roman polity for advocating a revival of the Hellenic identity should be taken as a strong sign of anti-Hellenism lasting well into late Eastern Rome.
@st-craftbeats8374
@st-craftbeats8374 Жыл бұрын
@@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173 Name the sources where the Byzantines claim to be descended from Lycaonians, Phrygians, Isaurians, Armenians etc. The word "Hellene" had a different meaning during the first centuries of the empire. When it lost its pagan meaning it started to be used by many people, including the emperors Manuel Komnenos, Ioannis Doukas Vatatzis and Constantine Palaiologos. Plython Gemistos was ostricized because he thought about being back the ancient greek religion, that's it. The Byzantine Empire was a mixture of Greek and Roman culture, even the Homeric epics were an ingegral part of the Byzantine education. Also, for a long time, the Ottomans considered Turk as a dirty slang word, not to be used, does that make the Ottoman empire not Turkish? And the Turks magically appeared when the Ottoman empire dissolved? Your arguments are extremely weak. Anyone who has knowledge of history knows that Roman and Greek are not mutually exclusive terms and that ALL the Greeks called themselves Romans until the mid 19th century, when they changed their name, they are literally the same people.
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173 Жыл бұрын
There are a bunch of them. You will have to search the whole Byzantine-Roman bibliography and that is beyond my capability to do here. Let me start you off, though. The “De Administrando Imperio” contains numerous references to Byzantine-Romans being descended from the “5 nations”. Constantine VII details the ethnic descent of Anatolians as being Phrygians, Lycaonians,, Thracians, Lydians, Cappadocians. Another reference comes from Bryennios who claims that the Doukas Dynasty descends from Romans of ancient Italy. Nicephoros II Phocas is reputed to be descended from the Flavian gens of Rome. Another source document (Theodore the Phylact) claims that the citizenry of Constantinople hails from Old Rome. Many many more sources talk about the descent of this and that Romans, as being not Greek and something else like Armenian or Isaurian or whatever else. To say that the Byzantine-Romans were claiming that they were aware of a Greek descent is beyond farfetched. You made it up out of thin air because you’re a Greek and you are pushing chauvinist drivel.
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173
@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173 Жыл бұрын
You are not being candid with me here and that is disappointing. Plethora was sent away because he was the “Hellene”. He wanted to revive the old Greek identity and this upset the Byzantine-Romans who saw his Hellenic teachings as heresy. Just because your ancestors were calling themselves Romans, that doesn’t go to mean that Romaios or Roman = Hellene or Greek. In Byzantine-Roman parlance, Romans/Romaioi were not Greeks/Hellenes. These are separate ethnic identities, as Anna Comnena and George Acropolites underscore in their works.
@Yabuturtle
@Yabuturtle 8 ай бұрын
How many Cypriots would like to reunite with Greece and how many want to stay independent?
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
Again Koraes' careful rhetoric, which matches his self-projection, seems to be in play; his classifications of“Greek slavery under the Romans” and “Greek slavery under the Ottomans” are closely linked a few lines below: Modern Greeks could justifiably boast more than Plutarch's contemporaries, when freed from the yoke of the savage tyrant, compared to which the Roman yoke could rightly be considered a luxury, and after they gain their freedom, they are willing to maintain it...16 Xenophontos, S., 2019. Brill's companion to the reception of Plutarch. Leiden: Brill, p.551.
@blackeagle7947
@blackeagle7947 Жыл бұрын
All wars of independence in the Balkan were facilitates by one or many European powers as part of their conflicts with the Ottoman Empire. The main instigator and supporter of these wars was tsarist Russia, followed closely by the Austria-Hungary, Germany and the the British and the French. The Russo-Ottoman wars facilitated the creation of the Danubian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia. Both Austria-Hungary and Russia instigated and supported the Serb revolts and subsequent independence. Tsarist Russia instigated the Greek revolt which then turned into a pan European project with France and Britain providing financial and military support. The Russians instigated and supported the Bulgarian revolt. Lastly the Austro-Hungarians and to some degree Italy supported the Albanian independence. There were revolts and independence movements in all of these countries, but non of them would achieve much without foreign support. Such was the case of the Boyar revolts, the Serbian revolts, the Greek revolts, etc. The Albanians too went through a series of revolts. In fact, from 1830 to 1910, the Abanians conducted 11 revolts, the greatest of which was the League of Prizren, none of which garnered any foreign support. This was because the European powers were only interested in Christian Orthodox subjects of the Empire. Their main objective was to cleanse the Balkans of any Albanian presence. The league of Prizren liberated much of Albanian territories against Greek and Serb armies, as well as the Ottomans, but the European powers complained to the Porte and the Empire was forced to subdue the revolt with violence. It was only at a stroke of a luck and thanks to regional conflicts between the European powers that the Albanians did achieve independence with their 12th revolt in 1912. Because of their religion affiliation, the Albanians had to fight the most for their independence. But in the grand scheme of things, all Balkan states except Albania were given their independence by Great European powers.
@blackeagle7947
@blackeagle7947 Жыл бұрын
@@DA-eo8ps Epirus has been inhabited mostly by two races Albanians and Vllahs. The only Greeks inhabiting Epirus were the clergy families and the Byzantine traders, established mostly in Janinna. Most of all Epirus is the other name for Albania, and is called like this because at least during the Middle ages, his inhabitants were mainly Albanians a secular race. There is nothing Greek about Epirus, Greekness is just a religious identity, and the fact that you adopted the name Hellenes, giving away the name Rumi, don’t make you the real Hellenes, who nevertheless were not the same with Epirotes during Ancient Times.
@blackeagle7947
@blackeagle7947 Жыл бұрын
@@DA-eo8ps Epirus got nothing to with greece,its an ancient land that was habitated by tribes that were no greeks,albanians were refered as epirotes…
@southface6684
@southface6684 Жыл бұрын
Albanians was the secret police of the ottomans in Balkans collaborators and cowards
@helgaioannidis9365
@helgaioannidis9365 Жыл бұрын
As far as I know the Zar wasn't really fond of the idea of the Greek revolution and also the other imperial powers. The British were kind of pushed into helping the Greeks, because the Greek diaspora was great on propaganda and had convinced the population in Britain that the Greeks deserved help. In fact, in the beginning neither of the empires helped the Greeks, only after famous western philhellenes died in Mesolonghi, the public opinion created so much pressure that the Brits started helping the Greeks. And none of the empires wanted the Greek revolution to succeed in its goal of a revolution to establish a republic, which was the original goal of the Greek nationalist movement.
@locksmiths2
@locksmiths2 Жыл бұрын
4:24 also that's right. Turks were in different points but after eoka come 33 Turkish village has deserted and they are forced to exile north. 9:12 yeah :d Turks already forced to go north by blood Christmas. You are telling the eoka crimes with one sentence and that's "displaced" would you like to look bloody Christmas?
@cindenvideolar4051
@cindenvideolar4051 Жыл бұрын
question should be ; why greece is not part of Turkiye now
@costaliberta5969
@costaliberta5969 Жыл бұрын
the most accurate to date. well done.
@d.stamstam6158
@d.stamstam6158 Жыл бұрын
Most of Turkey's territory is Greek territory since ancient times ,Ionian States, minor Greece.
@redtuffrock993
@redtuffrock993 Жыл бұрын
And what's that suppose to be mean ? Should everyone return their first homeland now ? All of the Greece Land was part of The Ottoman State, so should Turkey take Greece as well?
@gilpaubelid3780
@gilpaubelid3780 Жыл бұрын
@@redtuffrock993 Greece wasn't Turks' homeland.
@redtuffrock993
@redtuffrock993 Жыл бұрын
@@gilpaubelid3780 And I already didn't say something like that. It was part of the Ottoman State
@rejipervanyan3356
@rejipervanyan3356 Жыл бұрын
@@redtuffrock993 back go to mongolia 🇲🇳🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🇹🇷
@redtuffrock993
@redtuffrock993 Жыл бұрын
@@rejipervanyan3356 Go back to Middle East Please
@ermanyaman9919
@ermanyaman9919 Жыл бұрын
One very important thing the keep in mind is that, why Rauf Dentas was asking for assistance from Turkey and Britain. The answer is unfortunately, greek cypriots were pillaging turkish villages and killing local population in order to achieve enosis. These attacks were peaked in 1963 and kept persisting till 74. For those who want to keep digging, key words are ‘bloody christmas’.
@tamarchristians1201
@tamarchristians1201 Жыл бұрын
And the Turks were pillaging Greek, Syrian and Armenian villages till 1923. Western Turkey was Byzantium/Eastern Roman Empire and Eastern Turkey was Armenian Highlands/Armenian Kingdom.
@ermanyaman9919
@ermanyaman9919 Жыл бұрын
@@tamarchristians1201 your argument is based on false logic, you dont go pillage your own land since Turks are present in Anatolia for 1000 years and there isnt any evidence that shows armenian or greek population unrest till the late 19 th century. İt is pretty obvious who provoked and supported armenian and greek seperatist after that time period, and “Turks are killing our people” is a very easy lie to justify that false logic. Besides doesnt matter who was there first (by that logic hittites or sumerians should live on the land lol) what matters is who owns it now.
@tamarchristians1201
@tamarchristians1201 Жыл бұрын
@@ermanyaman9919 - Sorry, Persian Empire was not your land, Tajikistan, part of Afghanistan, a part of India and Iran itself. Turkish speaking tribes also settled in different parts of the Middle East in 16-17 centuries. Greece, Armenia and Iran have had governments, rulers and history. Turkey did not exist as a country till 1453, Azerbaijan did not exist as a country untill Joseph Stalin made it a country in 1918. The land belonged to Persian Empire till 1828. Some Seljuke and Mongols tribes settled in what was Persian Empire. Actually, there was a land at one point was called Arran, but no Azerbaijan. Some historians have been fooling tourists telling them that historic buildings that belonged to Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians are Turkish historic sites. Even Turkiye's capital was Greek and called Constantinopole; Izmir was Smyrna; Agri Dagh was/is Mount Ararat; Haja Sophia Greek Orthodox Church isolder than Turkiye, Armenian historic sites let to go to ruin by Turkish governments are older than Turkey; no historic sites no proof, but there so many of them still left even though half ruined, proof of their existence. Some elements in the West are trying to wipe out Greek and Armenian history. Turkey has a falsified and stollen history.
@tamarchristians1201
@tamarchristians1201 Жыл бұрын
Also, how about butchering more than 800,000 thousand Greeks, 250,000 Assyrians and genocide of 1.5 million Armenians on their historic lands in the most savage manner including babies, women, children.
@ermanyaman9919
@ermanyaman9919 Жыл бұрын
@@tamarchristians1201 very easy way to understand that you are wrong is, you can type Ottoman empire, seljuk empire, aq qoyunlu empire, then you can see the geography turkic people ruled over from 10 th to 20 th century. İn the mean time it is sad that you think armenian shepherds had a state.
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o Жыл бұрын
8:08 you mean 1/3, I.e. ≈33.3%
@Andre.Ferreira.28
@Andre.Ferreira.28 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me that the 'S' sounds are SO VERY loud?!
@ianfitzpatrick2230
@ianfitzpatrick2230 Жыл бұрын
In my genetics, on both the sites I’ve uploaded my DNA, I have a small amount of Cypriot DNA! I am very mixed so trying to find the line for which that be in has been nothing short of an extreme challenge. I’m a mics of north and sub Saharan African, as well an various central and Western European countries as well as indigenous puerto rica. My mother and I are the most mixed ethnically that I’ve personally seen, I know there’s others of course but due to that, when I go through my ancestry tree, I mostly can only find her Western European heritage. I believe maybe through my English heritage, possibly there might have been something but it could be older than that. With time I hope these things are revealed. I cherish my DNA and it’s unique history, I am glad I have these channels to better understand our story.
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 Жыл бұрын
i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
@yanniskarageorgiou3573
@yanniskarageorgiou3573 Жыл бұрын
Nice! You get your tsarouchi tomorrow
@ianfitzpatrick2230
@ianfitzpatrick2230 Жыл бұрын
@@yanniskarageorgiou3573 imagine me wearing those amidst modern garb!
@Llyebbay
@Llyebbay Жыл бұрын
Grreece and Cyprus have the same Greek Language the same Greek National Anthem and the same Greek Nation
@axax7668
@axax7668 Жыл бұрын
Obviously kissed the blarney stone!!
@petrosmotitis724
@petrosmotitis724 Жыл бұрын
UN-HISTORICAL! "Την Ένωση υποστήριξαν ενυπογράφως και αρκετοί Τ/κ, Μαρωνίτες και Αρμένιοι. " Meaning: The Union was also supported in writing by several Turks, Maronites and Armenians (the other 3 minorities of Cyprus). For such a sensitive topic it might worth reading thoroughly the history of a country which country's history counts thousands of years! source: Philenews 15/01/2020
@kyriakosphilitas6950
@kyriakosphilitas6950 Жыл бұрын
Yeah lmao because Philenews is the most trusted scource lmaooo
@petrosmotitis724
@petrosmotitis724 Жыл бұрын
@@kyriakosphilitas6950 well even in the history books from school mentions the same. Turkish Cypriots were not officially asked as Greek Cypriots as the voting procedure took place in churches. However they were welcome to vote as well, not forced though. Same for Armenians and Latins.
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