Knuckles' Chaotix (Sega 32X) James & Mike Mondays

[@beemop]

I had these EXACT same issues with my 32X as a kid. I swapped out 2 or 3 32X units and spent hours on the line with Sega Tech Support. I found out years later that there are two ribbon cables inside the 32X that have the habit of popping off slightly. You can access them by taking the top shell off. I would highly recommend James try popping that off and making sure the 2 ribbon cables are pressed down firmly. Once I did that, my copy of Chaotix worked flawlessly on my Model 2.

[@101Volts]

I bought a new 32x in 2003 and had the same problem.

[@SonicParadox]

It was always hard to play Knuckles Chaotix on my 32X. The slightest nudge of the system or cartridge would freeze the game(sometimes deleting the game saves). Plus you have to play with the wires to make colors look right. But the game was always fun for me when it works. I recommend reading the game manual to understand some of these controls/story/design choices.

[@polarbeargloves]

Sonic Paradox holy fuck, as soon as I read your comment and I got to the word freeze their game froze. The perfect coincidence.

[@catatonicchutoy4970]

Yo make more videos

[@catatonicchutoy4970]

Wheres the third video to seaside denied and metropolis mayhem

[@stuart_skinhurts_official]

Hello there

[@101Volts]

With that said, Chaotix is a mixed bag IMHO. It's nowhere near Zelda CDI levels of bad, it's playable but it isn't a fast paced Sonic 1 - 3 game or even Sonic CD.

[@Mace2.0]

I don't think the Genesis can't handle this much blast processing.

[@roguecactus7]

The Omnilution 2.0 it still does what nintendon't, though.

[@TEEN1DOL]

You might say it's a bit....chaotix

[@cinemaslut9034]

roguecactus7 Nintendont give a fuck what Geneisays

[@Jingleboy14]

Damn processing, stop being so blast!

[@ta0soft]

mmm, blasty

[@danielwilcox419]

Maybe the 32X would work if James hadn't shot an arrow through it on a pyre :P

[@zebular]

It's not the Genesis or the game, it's the 32x you had problems with. There's a ribbon cable inside the 32x that becomes dislodged that will cause the problems you're talking about.

[@Protoman85]

So it's got that in common with the Virtual Boy then pretty much

[@mechon12]

ooOO

[@MSOGameShow]

That explains why I never had the issues James and Mike are having.

[@MiguelVergaraK]

That would explain the fucked up colors

[@Mystemo]

Yupp, I hade the same issue when I got my 32X and pushing the ribbon cable back in fixed it.

[@adesignersperspective]

this game basically just looks like the 90s exploded and someone put the aftermath on a sega 32x cart.

[@CopiousDoinksLLC]

The fact that they're playing it on a shitty old television that's had the red burnt out of the picture is like the pièce de résistance.

[@jokerzwild00]

Games from this period always have this plastic sheen to them. Everyone tried to copy DKC with the prerendered shit. I always wished they had done a real Sonic game on the 32x (along with thousands of other people lol.) If they were smart they would have done something like Mania back then, it easily could have been done on the hardware and would have been a killer app for the 32x. Of course it would look less 16-bit and would have the plastic sheen of the era, but I'd take that if it meant some good classic Sonic levels and gameplay. By this time it was getting to the point that nobody gave a shit about 2d though. If it wasn't 3d it barely got a second glance because 3d was the new hotness.

[@BVRNERMVSIC]

hey yo This games was definitely not made with pre-rendered 3D except for the big metal sonic

[@Moonbeam143]

There's nothing like James and Mike in the middle of the night.

[@gyromurphy]

Moonbeam I'll leave a joke insert to someone else

[@2770escobar2770]

"There's nothing like James and Mike in the middle of the night" fingering each others bumholes

[@JoshRioTeixeira]

When do they actually record these? I always watch them Monday morning.

[@cinemaslut9034]

Josh Teixeira They record them once a month actually. each 4 videos is usually one session.

[@NoshuHyena]

I'm so glad you guys started J&M. Throughout the series, you've fully distinguished the real James apart from The Nerd, when previously much of the fanbase didn't even know he was playing a character.

[@Her_Imperious_Condescension]

When I was a kid, (like maybe 10 years ago), I couldn't comprehend that he was playing a character. I still knew they were scripted from all the fight scenes, but I really thought AVGN was James' entire personality.

[@CrypticcYT]

Haha I remember that time in the 90s when adding "X" to anything was cool.

[@gyromurphy]

Crypticc when the names max and Zack were all the rage

[@Najvalsa]

That's pretty XTREME!

[@KronnangDunn]

Xcellent!!!

[@KronnangDunn]

Xciting!!!

[@adesignersperspective]

i feel like this game in general is 90ing the 90s harder than anything has ever 90d before. the whole game just looks like the 90s exploded all over the place and someone put the aftermath on a 32x cart.

[@harryp3092]

James and Mike and Knuckles Mondays

[@Dresdenstl]

"Was there a Cheerios game?" No but there was a Chex Cereal game. Chex Quest. You guys should play that.

[@mrmanjumac3454]

Wow, wonder if someone from cinemassacre read this post lol you got your wish

[@RuneTrips]

I loved that avgn episode

[@CarlosHernandez-rl2wg]

Mighty was actually an original concept drawing for the main character for the Sonic games before they settled on a Hedgehog.

[@OrangeShellGaming]

And even further, early prototypes of Chaotix (supposedly as part of a cancelled game called Sonic Crackers, which got reworked into Chaotix) featured both Sonic and Tails as (playable) characters. They were eventually scrapped - Sonic got replaced by Mighty (simple sprite redraw and palette switch), while Tails is mostly entirely removed. You can still select a glitchy character in Chaotix debug mode that used to be what Tails was, but the game tends to crash very often with it. (It also appears as Knuckles but with Mighty's palette, so it looks very weird. Some call this glitchy leftover data character 'Wechnia')

[@SecretAgentYaya]

No he wasn't. An armadillo was considered, but it wasn't Mighty.

[@sakanaforty-six1216]

segasonic the hedgehog (1993-J) starred sonic, #raytheflyingsquirrel, and mighty armadillo. I was unable to emulate it properly, because it was a trackball arcade game.

[@tokyohanamura]

Same goes for Ristar. His stretchy arms were actually a scrapped concept from when Sonic was planned to be a rabbit

[@wiictvchannel1112]

@@tokyohanamura That's really cool! I didn't know that.

[@BitterGoblinBoy]

I don't normally comment on stuff but I played this game to death as a kid and I have to say it never looked so awful as it does in this video - the saturation on the TV is WAY TOO HIGH and it's SO blurry!!! This was clear and beautiful when I played it (and any footage you see online or screenshots these days shows super clear imagery). I don't understand why it looks so degraded in this video but I hope you guys know it doesn't look this bad generally!

[@1980sGamer]

It's the ribbon connectors inside the system. One of them isn't making good contact.

[@VVhistory]

I agree. The game looks like it was made that way on purpose

[@TheAyanamiRei]

This might be one of those times where it's better to use an Emulator.....

[@sonicboy678]

GENS 4 LIFE *shot*

[@DirectorHMAN]

It's also available in sonic collection on PS2 and probably other consoles

[@Sheppard97]

@@DirectorHMAN it actually isn't unfortunately

[@spaz5310]

I used to play the hell out of this game when I was young. I remember this was the reason i begged my parents to buy me a 32X. Good to see it on Cinemassacre, I kinda wanna learn how to speedrun it now LOL.

[@Lieutenant_Dude]

This game makes me feel like I'm running a 104 degree fever and doing drugs. It's so fucky.

[@Gabriel_Luke1-37]

Hahahahaaha

[@Headbanger142]

Damn it Processing, why are you being so Blast?!

[@tylerpoore]

"10 out of 10" - Norman Bates

[@oofta.gaming]

Would like to see you guys play Sonic 3.

[@Charles-qh3yw]

That's my favorite from the series

[@SailorStarHero]

I hope you mean sonic 3 and knuckles and not stand alone sonic 3

[@smotviddy]

The Sonic 3 portion of S3&K is best played standalone for its cooler boss music + more challenging final encounter. Also you get the prototype for Michael Jackson's "stranger in moscow" over end credits. Still my favorite Sonic game

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

SupaPixelGirl same

[@venzoah]

Same. Best game in the series. Would love to see this.

[@redmoko9837]

9:00 IIRC that thing that you're doing where your partner character jumps to the front of the screen, that's basically the developer's "fix" for an issue that would occasionally happen where your partner would get stuck in an area where you can't pull them back - or sometimes they outright disappeared if I remember right. Hitting that button manually forces them back with you.

[@wakkowarner123]

The colors look blown out--Did the footage look like that on your guys' end?

[@BazookaTooth707]

WakkoWarner123 Probably the TV

[@TheFettuck]

Yes it kinda even looks like a game for color blind people with all the crazy colors.

[@kiaayo]

I'm pretty sure Knuckles isn't supposed to be magenta.

[@nimrodery]

CRTs have a "tint" dial to perform color correction on the lousy analog signal. They probably assumed the LG would be set properly by default so they didn't bother with any settings. Just a guess.

[@mathesar]

Yeah it looks pretty bad here, Something is off with the capture vs. how its suppose to look.

[@mysterywrecked]

This is the most 90's thing I've ever seen, if you could play a trapper keeper, this is what it would look like :P

[@FrankyThree]

The colors are off Mike. Everything is more pinkish. I noticed you mentioned Sonic near the end of the video, so when you guys played it must've looked normal. Maybe a capture card glitch

[@mc_sonic2479]

I wish they would've played the co op mode.

[@spiderlegs50]

MC_Sonic hhhhju he is not in

[@Najvalsa]

This looks like a Sonic game on acid.

[@Redhotsmasher]

SlavjanA The acid colour tints and flickering don't help either.

[@calebprenger3928]

SlavjanA the color is off

[@random_an0n]

@@Redhotsmasher it was the recording software the 32x looks much prettier usually,

[@starman2517]

this game has an excellent soundtrack

[@ZeldasFinalFantasy]

3:54 they start playing the game

[@VisionThing]

Andy Bullivant You're.

[@michaelswitzer800]

ZeldasFinalFantasy thanks

[@mattthompson5951]

Definitely works with model 2's - I've hooked it up with a few variations of it, including audio modded units, RGB/S-Video output, etc. Either James' model 2 is defective, or one of the power adapters is underperforming.

[@JamesNintendoNerd]

I bought him a new Super Nintendo. Next maybe I need to get him a better Sega Genesis :) Thanks for watching -Mike

[@adesignersperspective]

according to other comments i'm seeing, the fault is with a ribbon cable inside the 32x and not the genesis, and it's a known issue. so you may also just need to get a new 32x.... or send the one you have to ben heck d-;

[@vagarous]

I used to own a European model 2 mega drive and a 32X with Knuckles Chaotix. Worked fine, up until something went wrong with the power adapter and the display (Due to the ribbon cable issues inside the 32X).

[@SYratherripped]

No, it's a known fact it has problems with SOME Model-2's. The specific variations of the Model-2's that have problems haven't been discovered.

[@danielmad]

Some HDTV's don't support the old 240 resolution anymore. I had the same problem plugging my NES into my Vizio. It only accepts a 480i signal or higher.

[@Ai-fj1dc]

danielmad weird, I have recent HDTVs that support small resolutions. Although the image is blurry as fuck, at least it works

[@robertwatchmen7527]

Road Kill you can do many things such as the hd retrovision or watch my life in gameing for more info

[@robertwatchmen7527]

danielmad mike has lots of 240p systems.

[@Beezle14]

Man, hooking up that 32x sure sounded... Chaotix! Keep up the good work, James and Mike!

[@pmtwreckhouse]

Sega overdosed on acid and made a sonic game.

[@Elfcheg]

WHAT DA FUCK IS A SONIC

[@NoshuHyena]

Can't overdose on acid ;)

[@Jedi_Scowen]

I remember having to send off my Mega Drive model 1 and 32X mushroom together to be fixed after buying the 32X. When I got them back they mostly worked together. Occasionally I'd have issues but nothing like you guys. My copy of this game worked fine 80% of the time.

[@esoterik0]

most sonic games have a 10:00 min level timer, the count down was letting you know you were at 9:50

[@hoodedman6579]

Nearly all 2d games do, though some of them let you turn it off.

[@drewwhitney7327]

3:26 The frustration is so relatable in this picture. That's rated somewhere between losing your tv remote and having to unplug and replug your one, cheap ass hdmi cable every time you switch between devices.

[@mrbholliday]

Why are the colors on the capture so messed up?

[@AdachiCabbage]

t might be bad RGB cables or that something isn't fully supporting RGB signal

[@liteney]

The Genesis just couldn't handle this much Blast Processing, it was too Xtreme!!! But Genesis still does what Nintendon't, to the Xtreme!!! : )

[@Psythik]

+Adachi Cabbage The Genesis didn't even support RGB output so I don't know where you got that idea from. AFAIK it only did RF and composite.

[@negafox4927]

Knuckles Chaotix felt more like Sega was checking off a list of "cool" special effect features to show off the capabilities of the 32X rather than focusing on a good game. Not good, not bad, it was just a weird game. - Rotating wireframes - True 3D special stages with horrible clipping that makes them nearly unplayable - Mode 7 style special stages - Secondary character scaling larger/smaller over the screen - Etc The problem was it was just distracting how overused it all was.

[@sebastianriz4703]

Soooo pretty much every tech demo game ever.

[@Batmansplumber]

is the color off?

[@TheFettuck]

Yes, there doesn't seem to be enough red.

[@NickEnlowe]

Thanks for not being too hard on this game. You guys should give it another try after you understand the controls better. For instance calling your partner to your position (that costs ten rings) is almost never needed. When you understand the rubber band mechanics better, you can slingshot your way through levels efficiently. There are many situations where you can pick up your partner and toss them up, then slingshot your way above them and keep alternating. In the time stages, you needed to have both characters standing on the switch. I recommend choosing Espio the Chameleon because he can move along walls kind of like Grant from Castlevania 3. You generally want to avoid the heavy bot and bomb bot in the Combi Catcher.

[@alexwilliams4944]

I always wanted this game.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Trivia: Knuckles Chaotix is based on a canceled Sonic game called Sonic Crackers. Sonic Crackers and Knuckles Chaotix have the same ring-band mechanic-type gameplay.

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

I've always wanted to play this game. Knuckles has been my favorite since Sonic 3.

[@cualquiercosaax]

me too man me too

[@datbo7974]

Micah Buzan same to bad sega hasn’t ported this in a collection

[@weaselweasel6601]

I love the new thumbnail art. Whoever did that needs a high five.

[@GamingFreak2010]

I have no idea wtf is going on

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

there's something wrong w your face sir

[@VisionThing]

N1GHT5 No, it's a ginger.

[@cameronlapage7386]

Sonic CD is like a 90s rave party. Chaotix is like a fever dream.

[@user-qp5yu1zq1m]

Chaotix Credit Card

[@TheMrRuttazzo]

*A BAT-CREDIT CARD?!*

[@tailsknuxfan101]

TheMrRuttazzo *A CAT-CREDIT CART?!* *_cue Looney Tunes melody_*

[@sonicboy678]

Now I'm thinking of Rouge pulling a card from her cleavage. Damn sexy bat...

[@doodoostickstain]

rofl thanks for taking the time hooking all that up, props for figuring out the TV issue omg

[@AllieFettig]

My second favorite knuckle dragger.

[@VMUboy]

Allie Fettig are you real?! :o

[@AllieFettig]

VMUboy nope

[@VMUboy]

Allie Fettig 😔

[@Theseus9-cl7ol]

I hope you guys keep doing these shows, it really does brighten an otherwise dull Monday.

[@Greyhoundsniper]

James get the Sega trio charger it's really good for 32x, CD and Genesis

[@RetrOrigin]

It's a bit overpriced though, better to get one from retro game supply.

[@Jenovi]

I second this. It's really worth the money if you have the trifecta.

[@leeboy2k1]

Jenovi They're emulated perfectly now, so no need.

[@gabrieleriva651]

"You can download an image of Mona Lise, why having the original?"

[@100Bucks]

leeboy2k1 you wasting your breath saying that to them. They know that, they just refuse to do it. I watched Mike live stream once playing Nintendo, many people told him he could emulate. They want to play on the real thing. I feel you tho. There is no difference. You can't convince them to emulate. Anything that's 8 or 16 bit is 100 percent perfect on PC.

[@Ryan-vl2nn]

I wish you guys would still do James & Mike Mondays.

[@inendlesspain4724]

This game's aesthetics really stand out, even compared to the other Sonic games, and that's something! I wish more 2D platformers were as imaginative and weird as this one.

[@mvyper]

"If you're a serial killer you'll like this game", they said. Board James, is that you?

[@KronnangDunn]

I had a Genesis model 1 from 1991 until 2001. I sold it to be able to buy a PS2 at launch. While I still like playing with my good old PS2 very much, to this day... I fucking regret having sold my beloved Genesis....

[@KronnangDunn]

+nuk3townusa I forgot to mention that I actually managed to obtain a lot from it because of how well preserved it was and because of the many many games I included with it (my entire collection). I take care of my consoles a lot and keep them pristine, you know?

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

All things considered, you did a very good deal. I know there's some personal attachment involved, but let's face it, the PS2 is arguably the greatest console ever made, the genesis can't even be compared to it.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

That's why I said "arguably", why be so defensive about it? The games library can be used as decisive factors, the PS2, the Super Nes, etc.. They are on a different level compared to everything else.

[@Fries101Reviews]

There needs to be a James & Mike Podcast on KZbin & SoundCloud

[@prophetmikey25]

why are knuckles anf mighty color distorted i guess since knuckles is pink he has the super emerald

[@JVenom]

Yeah, that's the only thing bothering me about this video... The colors seem off.

[@BazookaTooth707]

Micah Gayle Probably has to do with the tv

[@prophetmikey25]

ReppeNThA707 well they don't notice it yet as far i am in to the video

[@Hypetreme]

It has nothing to do with the TV. The footage is being recorded straight from the console itself, not from the TV. It might be bad RGB cables or that something isn't fully supporting RGB signal (Assuming they are using RGB).

[@prophetmikey25]

Hypetreme. ya it's the recorder cause they don't notice it

[@cocojumbo8240]

oh baby that purple tint is like daggers on my eyes

[@JoesMemos]

17:00 speaking of games that come in a cereal box. i would love to see you guys play Chex Quest!

[@TheMasterVictory]

J circle E or the PC bionicle game

[@Game_Hero]

wish...granted

[@ulfrinn8783]

I did some research on the issue and the issue seems to be the VA4 variant of the genesis model 2. The VA4 is a 3/4 motherboard model (you can see the heat shield through the vent on the bottom doesn't completely cover the vent) and the VA4 will have square cutouts in the heat shield visible from the bottom. Earlier models like the VA1, VA1.8, etc work fine.

[@DanniDolphin]

I want to get this game! I love the art style. It's so coooool.

[@ghhn4505]

Honestly I've played the whole thing, it's kind of a slog. I love the visuals and the soundtrack, but the actual game gets pretty repetitive and it feels half baked.

[@JoeyJ0J0]

Such an underrated game. I wish we could get a re-release

[@sockofficial7084]

The colors are off

[@twinbladeshugo]

LTL Sploder no they are not. That's how it looks I still own this game that's how it's always looked the game is very confusing but beatable with luck on level select.

[@noahhall2302]

twinbladeshugo I own the game as well, this is not how it's supposed to look.

[@Tidus5005]

twinbladeshugo You're completely wrong. Go and watch any other Chaotix video on KZbin. It should look much better than this.

[@RodniDemental]

This looks like how it appears when one of your video cables is backwards.

[@MortonSeinfeld]

Really? Knuckles is supposed to be hot pink?

[@alondite215]

Pressing A is a recall for your partner character to bring them back to you from wherever they are. B can also be used to grab and throw your partner, which is useful in certain situations, especially when bouncing around on springs. Each character also has a special ability: Knuckles can climb walls and glide, Mighty can cling to walls and wall-hop, Espio can run on walls and ceilings, and Vector can air-dodge and climb, if I remember correctly.

[@jubjub444]

You guys should play Chex Quest...its a doom clone but its a cereal based game.

[@nicholasdunlap2275]

JubJub444 dude, I used to play this game every morning at my friend's house. Such a classic.

[@dogeymon83]

You need the expander piece on the side of your genesis. The 32X came with an expansion adapter that actually plugs into the side of the genesis where the sega cd would normally plug into

[@datbo7974]

Tbh sega should port this game way more , it really underrated and fun

[@Spaghettiboy359]

I love the colour palette in this game

[@notosru9377]

It's like a friggin' escort mission. The worst kind. You cannot even ditch the sucker, cause you're permanently attached to him. Oh, the nightmare.

[@ChauNyan]

Did James finally cutoff his sideburns?

[@ClassySaia]

Dang I kept wondering why he looks different! Thank you!

[@RadionPrime]

James & Mike is the best segment of Cinemassacre

[@DaFro3713]

Any chance of a James and Mike Monday with Sonic 3 & Knuckles? I thought I heard you guys said you were going to play it soon after the end of the JMM episode of Sonic 2. Either way, love the work guys.

[@DrumRockr83]

PRO TIP!!! - I had this SAME freezing issue back in the 90's. Happened with a few games - Tempo and Knuckles Chaotix. Chaotix I returned to Toys R Us a bunch of times because of it. BUT I grew skeptical that this many copies of the game were actually broken. I took another look at my Gen 2/32x setup and decided to mess around. I came to the conclusion the issue was caused by the 32x shifting or wobbling just ever so slightly. When I popped the game in, and then started to just move the Genesis enough to rattle the 32x a tiny bit, it froze - I'm talking miniscule movements which were even caused by moving the controller cable attached to the Genesis slightly. I remember getting this fixed by removing the spacer between the 32x and the Genesis, and possibly also the electromagnetic shield plates. At that point the 32X was making better contact inside the Genesis and stopped freezing on me. Might be why the Gen 1 model works better with this game than the Gen 2 model - installation on there didn't require you to use that spacer. Hopefully this helps you out!

[@michaelsmythe7836]

it looks like an early version of sonic heroes...looks fun.

[@inspirationalgamer5443]

I'm glad you wanted to play this MIke! This game is really a gem to play! To the uninitiated, this game is definitely off-putting so to speak. It has a pretty easy learning curve though once you get used to it. This game has some of the most unique special stages in ANY Sonic related game ever made (as you clearly saw lol!)! Boy, am I glad I am not the only one who had this problem.. I've had my fair share of issues getting this game to work myself. My conclusion is that the 32X units all vary in quality. Some work great and some are total shit. I have gone through 4 of them in my life and my current one is on it's last leg (it was good to me for many years). I think it is time we get a repro console or adaptor that will run 32X games (and if that exists already someone PLEASE let me know). For all the issues I have had, plus what you and James just went through, I wonder why Sega never decided to ever port this on some Sega collection or at least give it a digital only port. It would have been perfect for the "Sonic Gems Collection" on Gamecube back in the day but never made the cut I guess. Maybe Sega doesn't have much faith in it.. That is sad because it's a great game! Keep up the good work you two!

[@gurozawa]

am i the only one loving how retrowav this looks? reminds me of menus in sonic cd reedition. i would like to play other sonic games with this style

[@MrSadface]

gurozawa needs a Romona Vektroid soundtrackn

[@1980sGamer]

It's not supposed to look like that.

[@only257]

awesome, classic video game played this at a neighbor's house when I was 12 in 1996

[@FlareTheFireDragon]

14:15 "I just think it's funny to play as a- ...What the f*ck?"

[@Kaitri]

pokemon!

[@KingdomofStank]

Damnit James. I love it when you talk shop about systems and how they work. Brings up so much nostalgia of trying to set up old consoles. Love it. :D

[@RickAt19348]

i would think that they would clean their cartridges and systems as the contacts can become dirty. Wouldn't that be something if the guy that created that save is watching this video, thinking "i saved there in the game i had", but obviously no way of knowing that it was his cartridge, or he could be dead..........

[@JamesChessman]

"or he could be dead........" and watching the video from the afterlife. Hopefully it makes his soul happy to know that his save was used here. RIP

[@MidwestMidnight]

Interesting. I have a model 2 Genesis with a 32X and I've never had problems with Chaotix. It was always one of my favorite games for the console.

[@gamestation2690]

The color is off.

[@josephfrye7342]

my god your right that color is way off I think they tried adjusting the television monitor etc.

[@captainatt]

GameStation3 really??? I didn't notice but now you say it it does look a little saturated

[@Street_Hawk]

Title cards are back! I hope any upcoming Nerd episodes will have these too.

[@TheUltimatedarkside]

The game was originally suppose to star Sonic and tails. But much as I remember. Since I never played it. That there was something wrong with the game that didn't work out. So they change it. They change sonic model to the armadillo. Tails model still in the game. But as a bug. and you have to do a debug mode to get it. I think the game freezes if you have tails along.

[@MrAdrenaline1982]

Sonic Crackers was the name of a prototype of Chaotix that was on a regular Genesis with Sonic & Tails. For some reason they decided it would be better to have Knuckles and his buddies star in the game, instead of Sonic himself.

[@sonicpelaaja]

I've had this game and the hardware to play it with for years and never had any problems. All mega drives I have tried have worked with it. Strange. Maybe because mine are all European PAL stuff. Retro consoles are unpredictable sometimes I guess. I like this game. I'm very happy that I got to see Mike and James play it.

[@magman6756]

Guys please play Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze! Its insanely hard but super fun. I dare you to beat the "K-Levels! ;)

[@Karoku2100]

Tropical Freeze truly is a masterpiece, and a hidden gem amongst the Wii U library. I only hear the hardcore crowd talk about it! It took me a while, but I completed the game in its entirety. Getting all puzzle pieces and record-breaking those hidden levels...Gah...

[@magman6756]

Its and amazing game, perfectly balanced, beautiful graphics and an outstanding ost.

[@TheTyisawesome]

When they accidentally hit exit and had fight the selection screen lol🤣

[@Teabone3]

So this is what its like to play a game on acid.

[@syafiq271]

just for the preparations alone you guys deserve a like

[@DavidJung03]

The game looks extremely frustrating to play just looking at it.. the rubber band thing just looks like a huge hindrance

[@101Volts]

"It's not a Sonic game, it's an offshoot and shouldn't be played 100% as a Sonic game.. Ever..."

[@TallSilentGuy]

The rubber band does not restrict your movement, though. It just forces your CPU-controlled companion to follow you.

[@skrrskrr]

14:08 I just re-watched the Nintendo Power video yesterday! dat reference.

[@LightningForce1010]

Now You should do Mortal Kombat 2 for 32X If You have it

[@Sky_Sovereign]

Mateusz Mugen where the fuck the anime girl came out in? For the life of me I can't remember

[@LightningForce1010]

That's Julie from Bakugan my friend.

[@alejandrojosespinamendez5668]

looks like a bad acid trip

[@greengamerguy623]

this game was one alot of drugs.

[@Dungeon00X]

I'm so happy they finally got to play it.

[@iPlaySEGA]

GREAT Game!

[@OmegaChase1002]

it would be if it didnt have the rubber band

[@captaincommando2602]

Not that great honestly.

[@PoopaChallupa]

I never seen a single commercial for NES or Sega growing up and I always had the impression that Sega was "Cooler:.

[@edpereira7767]

This is AVGN material for sure !!!

[@MDPExtreme]

the Keith's arcade video of this is amazing!

[@Shundi12]

You guys should play Freedom Planet which is an awesome Sonic like game for PC, Mac and Wii U.

[@viniciusnascimento854]

I Love this Game Why Sega Did Not make a Remake of This Game? (Door Into The Summer)

[@cameronlapage7386]

Part of me was hoping the save they were playing on didn't get all the rings to see their reaction to the bad ending.