Modern Repros Commonly Mistaken for Originals

[@Shcreamingreen]

Actually many people would consider the originals fake, as long as they appear ,,insufficiently'' patinated.

[@KnyghtErrant]

+Isaak Rozenkranz Ha, yes, some originals are in remarkable condition.

[@toddgreener]

This channel is one of a few that I will instantly watch when I see it in my subscription list. The content is always way better than anything else on the same topics, and I just enjoy the presentation. Good work!

[@KnyghtErrant]

+Todd Greener Thanks Todd, I very much appreciate the vote of confidence! :)

[@corbinfathandme]

+Todd Greener I wish I got this in my youtube subscriptions list. KZbin, I guess doesn't think I want to watch this. But yes, I agree wholeheartedly on your good words towards the channel. Now if only youtube worked correctly....

[@Alopex1]

Dear Ian, Thanks, as always, for a great and very informative video :) Keep up the fantastic work! One small niggle: I am from Southern Tirol in Northern Italy, where the Churburg is located. The name of the castle, in German, is corretly ponounced as "Koor-boorg". Obviously, how you pronounce it is a matter of choice, especially since you are not a native speaker. But just in case you wish to pronounce it as you would in the German original, now you know ;) By the way, if ever you have the opportunity to come to Europe, take the time to visit the Churburg. The arsenal of medieval weaponry housed there is absolutely great. Another amazing collection of armours can be found in the Zeughaus in Graz, Austria.

[@Player_Review]

I can't wait to see your uploads in No-Shave November. Fantastic video, as always. Your editing and education is impeccable.

[@KnyghtErrant]

+Jeremy Madsen It's always No-Shave November on the Knyght Errant channel! :)

[@1337pede]

Please move your laptop away from the edge. I can never focus properly because I'm in constant fear of it falling.

[@jonathanyoung7724]

+Aeradir WHY DID YOU POINT THIS OUT, I CAN'T FUNCTION ANYMORE

[@KnyghtErrant]

Next video I will see how far out on the table I can set it while still balancing :) But seriously, the rubber grippy things on the bottom hold it rock solid and there's no where else to put it without blocking myself. It's really only the corner that's off the edge.

[@DanTrue]

+Knyght Errant There's space for a hidden ledge behind it, to really trip viewers off ;)

[@macalvand]

Just subscribed, I really hope you come back to KZbin and make more videos one of these days. Nobody else on this site covers your niche of content as well as you do (at least not without including 10+ minutes of rambling)

[@ristopoho824]

Amazing work by that armourer. When you said they are all made by the same guy it blew my mind a little bit. Been seven years since this video so i may need to look if he's back in business making these, or what else he is doing. The attention to detail is damn amazing, and the things changed just make it look, well, more original than the originals. Works of art those. Also. Makes me feel way better about the inaccurate holes i did on my helmet. Dang i missed the spots on where i was supposed to drill. But seems it's within the limits of how accurate they were really done, so it's fine.

[@ristopoho824]

Welp. Unsurprisingly not back in business. Was hard to find out anything new about him, but definitely no new armor by him. Seems he is in high regard when talking about the armorers of the world.

[@awlach8]

Will you be doing any videos like this regarding medieval weapons? People at events that choose the wrong sword type for their kit, etc.? Your video about putting armor in its context throughout the middle ages was an amazing analysis.

[@slee3155]

unrelated question: I seem to recall that Roman mail had double layers at the shoulders. Did this occur in the medieval era?

[@KnyghtErrant]

+Steve Lee You sometimes see the doubling of mail skirts on some 15th century Italian harnesses, but I can't recall anything similar to the doubling of mail on a lorica hamata.

[@PandaKnight52]

I love your work, any chance of videos on hand protect besides metal gauntlets?

[@guardian9394]

Can you do a video about armor at its pinnacle, the very best armor to be developed before armor fell out of use? And maybe you could compare that armor to early suits of plate to point out how far armor technology had come? I'm curious what helmet was the end all, be all of fully protective metal helmets, as well as how all of the other armor pieces evolved to be more protective while lessening the sacrifices made to mobility.

[@NoahWeisbrod]

That's kind of impossible to answer. A lot of changes to the full plate harness weren't improvements per se as much as adjustments depending on the needs and fashion of the period and location. Helmets are the obvious example. So are different types of gauntlets. Then there are things like tassets vs mail skirt.

[@rchave]

I think you mean "best" as in "technically advanced" and "most coverage with full mobility", so Henry VIII's famous foot combat armour your clear starting point. Greenwich armouries were set up with huge expense intended to be the absolute greatest ever, huge money spent on famous armourers, etc etc. "Best" is obviously subjective though and for helmets, from the bascinet onwards they had full coverage and movement, but it's down to taste and preference.

[@DanielBlack82]

On modern helmets there is a holding mesh inside so the helmet dos not actually rest on your head, really usually the metal/material should not be touching you much. Did designs like that get used on medieval and later helmets to or were they mostly dependent on a cloth hat or some such?

[@KnyghtErrant]

+SnowCrash I do plan on doing a video on historical liners. In general, the surviving liners for late medieval war helmets were of the suspension variety similar to modern ballistic helmets. It's more the modern 'medieval' combat sports that rely on padding to absorb the blow.

[@DanielBlack82]

Ah interesting i was wondering because the museum peaces i have seen never had any remaining lining. But i was suspecting it did not just go on your head like that.

[@mattbrown5511]

Are the pieces you have shown considered forgeries? Or did they armor present them as reproduction items?

[@KnyghtErrant]

They were presented as reproductions. What happened was that photographs of them get shared on the internet without their context, and people assume they are looking at the originals... before long they become de facto photos of the originals in people's minds

[@mattbrown5511]

Thank you for the clarification.

[@Dowlphin]

They are all forgeries. 😜

[@MayhemCause]

I just kind of assumed they were all reproductions :P

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

Hey, reference videos are telling me I can learn my ABCs. I can?!?! Holy fucking shit shirley.

[@KnyghtErrant]

+No Free Will Ha, yes the same videos are showing up on my recommendations as well... I guess KZbin thinks my videos are about equal to teaching colors and letters to toddlers. That might explain my channels struggle with popularity, haha :)

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

Knyght Errant That must be pretty annoying.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

+Knyght Errant It''s because your channel has an education tag but isn't networked. This happens to all non-networked education channels. Even gun channels like Forgotten Weapons and C&Rsenal display the same suggestions (which can be disconcerting at times). If you're networked like the Greens and their DFTBA friends, the networked channels will show instead. BTW, if it makes you feel any better, your channel shows up as a suggestion on Matt's channel (Schola) and Lloyd's (Lindy).

[@KnyghtErrant]

Andrew Suryali Ah! The education tag, thank you. I didn't even consider that, but that makes a lot of sense. Usually after a few days when KZbin's algorithm figures things out the problem corrects itself, but that's good to know.

[@scarecrow2097]

which affordable armorer you suggest for historical actual steel made and not mild mail,(bacinet, pot great helm,Norman helmet) and greaves/sabbatons, gauntlets?

[@alexwickenheiser2277]

+the scarecrow Nobody makes historical steel these days. If you were to find someone who did, it most certainly would not be "affordable". Spring steel is probably the most accurate form of steel that is remotely affordable on an average wage.

[@scarecrow2097]

by actual steel I don't mean historicall steel I just mean good quality and not mild or something. The historicall parts goes only for the constraction

[@alexwickenheiser2277]

+the scarecrow mild can be of excellent quality. and can be the closest approximation to historical steel in various time periods. in others spring is better.

[@norsesquarehorse7668]

+the scarecrow Im not sure what would be affordable for you. And what country of origin would be the best for you. Also note that Im not dealing with reconstruction but focus on sparring and practical equipment. That being said I recommend fabri-armorum.com/english/ I used few different gauntlets of theirs, few swords, played with sabres, both me and my friends put trust in their products. I can attest to the quality of their gear and their selection is not bad either.

[@karolusmagnus7786]

Do someone know why there is only ventilations holes on one side of the bascinet nose?

[@KnyghtErrant]

Bascinets usually have breaths on only the wearer's right side (or far fewer on the left, but some symmetrical examples exist) because you were far more likely to take a lance shot to the left side of the visor. When asymmetry is present in armor, it generally results in the left side being the more defended side. This also keeps the right side (your weapon side) more mobile for holding and couching your lance (every surviving lance rest is on the right side of the breastplate), or being the primary hand on a pollaxe or sword.

[@karolusmagnus7786]

Thank you :)

[@Hamstray]

the material quality of the originals seems much better.

[@amang1001]

Could u make a video eastern and middle eastern armours? Keep up the great work!!

[@beegum1]

We should probably expect maker's marks on quality reproductions. I mean look how stunning they are who wouldn't want one so genuine looking, lol, if they could afford it.

[@Ruarscampbell]

I think many do, but the reproduction has a maker's mark from the modern maker in a different place. That way they can still be distinguished from the original as the makers are not trying to make a forgery.

[@beegum1]

Participants can help make this a standard by asking for a maker's mark on premium objects they purchase.

[@KnyghtErrant]

+David Lowery Most modern makers in my observation do have and stamp their own maker's mark on their work. All of my pieces from Jeff Wasson have his stamp somewhere on them. But yeah, you should probably exercise caution with certain pieces like Ruarscampbell said :)

[@klyanadkmorr]

Did that armorer guy get sued for trying to pass off his reproductions as real? Is that why he stopped? But if he was open about them being fake but for sale for appreciation, it's not his fault others just passed on misinformation about his work being Originals.

[@KnyghtErrant]

+klyana130 No one was trying to pass them off as originals. Modern armorers replicate specific originals all the time. It's just that these are so good, people mistake the photos of them for the originals, and at the speed of the internet, people start to believe it.

[@klyanadkmorr]

Thanks,

[@dajolaw]

+Knyght Errant Good to know. I was concerned that this artist had jumped that fine line from painstakingly beautiful reproductions to outright forgery.

[@OwainapDewi]

Who uses Pinterst lol

[@spacemanapeinc7202]

Dude Pinterest is like a god send, way better at finding specific images than Google Images.