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Knyght Errant

Knyght Errant

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@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
6:44 - Ah! This must be the historical Battle of the Bulge!
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I love reenactment. You learn what our ancestors knew but never wrote down.
@Mystakaphoros
@Mystakaphoros 7 жыл бұрын
"don't judge historical objects by faulty modern reproductions"
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
Next difficulty level: Realizing that the past had really bad crafters, too.
@universe7708
@universe7708 7 жыл бұрын
"I had my arms rebuilt" Are your new robotic arms more historically accurate?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
My bionic arms are far superior to the fleshy ones I had before.
@nightreaver9749
@nightreaver9749 7 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant The flesh is weak!
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed he decided to keep the skin though. Metal arms honestly look better.
@45calibermedic
@45calibermedic 2 жыл бұрын
Jet Black vibes
@lornemiller3489
@lornemiller3489 Жыл бұрын
​@@nightreaver9749 the omnisiah is eternal!
@Dosman0026
@Dosman0026 7 жыл бұрын
Watching Ian while hand sewing my own reenactment clothing, is a real pleasure!
@antivalidisme5669
@antivalidisme5669 7 жыл бұрын
Cannot agree more, never thought of the triangle cut in the gambeson, so instructive -as always-.
@brotherandythesage
@brotherandythesage 7 жыл бұрын
Others may be more entertaining but is anyone as practical and informative? Keep up the great work good, Sir!
@superdudex6
@superdudex6 7 жыл бұрын
You single handedly changed how I look at armor forever. Thank you!
@userofusers5787
@userofusers5787 6 жыл бұрын
Really love watching your videos. And its nice to see that the "pros" have basically the same kind of problems and issue I have with my LARP gear that I collected over the last 15 years, hehe. Really comprehensive videos, this one included and all that gives me a lot of insight and new ideas on how to approach my own problems. Thank you.
@thekenneth3486
@thekenneth3486 7 жыл бұрын
A very impressive process toward perfection. It really makes one appreciate how much of a difference there must have been in those days between a less experienced, less expensive armorer and an expert- which a man-at-arms would certainly have had to pay well for.
@Haszczu87
@Haszczu87 6 жыл бұрын
Great thanks for these videos :) I'm in the middle of creating my riveted chainmail sleeves right now and I was wondering about including chain triangle (or even diamond shape inset) on elbow and your videos made me sure about this proces :) I'm glad you've overcome this fabric problem switching it to leather straps, because I knew that some problems may occur after I'll try to connect sleeves together.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! You may find this useful, this is the detailed entry on a 16th century mail sleeve in Wade Allen's collection. There is some good photography, and even one photo that shows all of the tailoring rings marked with little white twisty ties - www.allenantiques.com/M-15.html
@chickensandwich8808
@chickensandwich8808 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I am also a tailor by profession. I find it very interesting to see the evolution of the modern suit to the padded garments of the middle ages. A lot of modern day terms and decor echo the originals. for example the buttons you find on the sleeve of a suit jacket, as well as the single button and placket on a dress shirt sleeve are both called "The Gauntlet." Specifically in reference to the button closed forearm of the sleeve of a padded arming jacket. It is also interesting to see how clothing as this was based on contemporary Military dress. Though obviously arming jackets have a more functional use.
@xKeldonx
@xKeldonx 7 жыл бұрын
As always, thank you very much for your videos
@castlekingside3487
@castlekingside3487 7 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, love everything I've seen so far. I'm currently on a marathon to make it through all your videos, really great job making so much good quality content.
@TavinUndertaker
@TavinUndertaker 7 жыл бұрын
That hybrid articulation was really amazing!
@calebcampbell9280
@calebcampbell9280 7 жыл бұрын
I’d imagine Knyght Errant is safer than most of the historical arms & armour community due to his focus on armour instead of arms. Also because a lot of the content is geared toward re-enactment which is a bit more mainstream than HEMA. The situation still sucks though.
@ianburnham
@ianburnham 5 жыл бұрын
had a similar issue happen when i tried suspending my arms off my coat of plates, ended up adding an extra buckle at the top of the back closure to pull the shoulders together more and that fixed the problem
@arpioisme
@arpioisme 7 жыл бұрын
could you show us about the different kinds on articulation in an armor? those sliding rivets, that leather straps, are there more? how exactly they work and what are they more suited to? how are they being made?
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 7 жыл бұрын
Would be really interesting to see some mobility exercises like a obstacle course with the new setup.
@mtodd4723
@mtodd4723 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! I love your channel . Thank you for sharing .
@Kirtahl
@Kirtahl 6 жыл бұрын
8:30 Ian is a cyborg man at arms. Hail the overlord!
@TheOhgodineedaname
@TheOhgodineedaname 7 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to what books are in the bookcase behind you.
@ogichiseo
@ogichiseo 7 жыл бұрын
Really want to see another comparison vid between your recently improved armor and Metatrons new armor.
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thanks as always.
@Evan-rj9xy
@Evan-rj9xy 7 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a video on the changes to your cuirass? I got a small glimpse at days of knights and on facebook and it's looking really cool!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely. I wanted to get to spend some time _in_ it first so I could speak from a more informed place about how they function, but that's going to be coming up very soon.
@Evan-rj9xy
@Evan-rj9xy 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Can't wait to see it!
@secutorprimus
@secutorprimus 7 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant I saw a glimpse of it elsewhere. What made you give into the demands 😏?
@OutlawMaxV
@OutlawMaxV 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, really informative!
@Ubeer85
@Ubeer85 7 жыл бұрын
As usual, very interesting content. I always thumbs up before i watch the video,
@stevengood1812
@stevengood1812 7 жыл бұрын
But when will we get an overview of the full new kit
@BigZ7337
@BigZ7337 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. :)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@IvanHreshko
@IvanHreshko 7 жыл бұрын
love the video, as a character desighner I`m very interested in things like these, what works and what would not work, why it wouldnt and so on.
@valentinarnaud2204
@valentinarnaud2204 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your videos! I enjoy it every time! :D
@toddgreener
@toddgreener 7 жыл бұрын
Dang, I love your videos.
@brotherandythesage
@brotherandythesage 7 жыл бұрын
At 2:50 you bring up a topic that I have always wondered about when discussing both armor padding and padded armor and that's the "quality" of the material used. How big a difference is there in the "best" quality linen for making say 25 layers of padded armor and the difference between using just whatever quality?
@PandemicalShade
@PandemicalShade 7 жыл бұрын
VERY informative!!!
@connor5421
@connor5421 7 жыл бұрын
Damn Ian you been working out? Looking good dude.
@clintcarpentier2424
@clintcarpentier2424 3 жыл бұрын
Ian comes to us today, in not but a t-shirt.
@mitcharcher7528
@mitcharcher7528 3 жыл бұрын
No pants? No problem.
@arassaricoban4539
@arassaricoban4539 7 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to seeing your new cuirass or back plate and how differently it will function with the mail sleeves compared to the mail shirt. By the way, have you considered adding a circular plate to better protect the front of the armpits (its proper name eludes me)? Would that addition be okay for your English style early XV century armour?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Besagews :) Yes, I've already got them and they will be in a future video along with the new cuirass and paunce of plates.
@tinglydingle
@tinglydingle 7 жыл бұрын
Sure you already looked it up by now, but just in case you haven't, they're called Besagues. :)
@anthonypantano2627
@anthonypantano2627 7 жыл бұрын
this helps alot thanks!
@sweetteademon
@sweetteademon 4 жыл бұрын
That helmet looks either insane(?) or extremely friendly.
@Крыжовник-е4ю
@Крыжовник-е4ю 7 жыл бұрын
Russian-English translators and Anglo-Russian! Make subtitles to this guy's video, please! In Russia, people also want to look and understand about medieval Europe.
@ColtDouglasMusic
@ColtDouglasMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@piotr_jurkiewicz
@piotr_jurkiewicz 7 жыл бұрын
Love fixing :)
@stahlschau1707
@stahlschau1707 5 жыл бұрын
i solved the same problem with the backstrap, i just connected it with 4 leather straps to the arming belt
@stefanospapavasileiou9676
@stefanospapavasileiou9676 4 жыл бұрын
00:00 me when you tell me the mission to reclaim the holy land is postponed
@lancerd4934
@lancerd4934 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, I have a question about the bascinet visor. The pointed hounskull style is obviously designed for deflecting blows and projectiles, but the flatter klappvisor was also popular at the same time - what advantage does it have that would cause some people to choose it over the pointed design (disregarding aesthetics and the attachment system)? Btw I enjoyed this video a lot. I reckon you're the only person who can make all the nitty gritty stuff like this interesting and entertaining to watch.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So real quick, _klappvisor_ just refers to the hinge mechanism, so there are klappvisor bascinets with pointed houndskull style visors (like _Veste Coburg_ ), they just have the central hinge which is what makes them a klappvisor as opposed to side pivots. I know what you mean though, and it's important to recognize that the flatter klappvisor visors, while not conical like houndskulls are still very rounded and have compound curves on them, so they still offer a deflective surface. The other, and probably more important part to understand is that they likely 'evolved' (I kinda hate that term for historical objects, but it works ok here) from the _bretache_ (the nasal guard on some styles of bascinets that draws up the aventail and connects on the other side to a central point on the brow), so they took a very different path to their classical form than the traditional side-pivoting houndskull visor. When you view that form as starting out as a bretache and over time being converted into a more complete visor, it makes more sense why they arrived at the shape they did. It's also not so much that people are choosing one over the other, but more that different styles were more dominant in different regions of Europe, and with bretache style bascinets being very common in the HRE, the presence of the flatter klappvisor shapes later in time there makes more sense.
@kaj9245
@kaj9245 7 жыл бұрын
Hello, just a video idea. You cold talk about the great helm and the shape of the early flat top and why you think it was shaped like it. I'm sure some people are confused about; I know I'm confused by its design.
@TrollDragomir
@TrollDragomir 7 жыл бұрын
If I was doing that, I'd probably just make points for it in the gambeson ;) With maybe a few threads going right across like those belts do. Not sure about the historical accuracy of such a solution, but I do think it'd be the simplest one.
@AggroPhene
@AggroPhene 2 жыл бұрын
looks like fabric used on the bias might provide the flexion needed without play in multiple directions.
@joeyvanhaperen7715
@joeyvanhaperen7715 2 жыл бұрын
Oooow boy do I understand the thing your talking about. I wish someon told me before I started making my armor, cause it is a sh*t storm. 😅 The latest probleem I'm encountering is that my armor rests to heavly on my shoulders. It now compresses the padding at my colorbones causing my cuiras to dig into my f*cking shoulders. Now I need to find a form of upperbody padding I can wear underneat my reguler padding cause everything metal is suspended from the padding I wear normaly and I can't just put something over that padding. 🤣😅 That's just the latste probleem, sow if your reading this and thinking about making your own armour you are going to have your own sh*t to deal with trust me, sow only do it if your willing to follow true. 😅 I was thinking about maby buying a padded collor to wear underneat my gambeson, sow it fatens up my upperbody spreading the weight over a larger area, plus giving more to compres for the cuiras, sow it won't be digging in anymore while also making me more protected against blunt force smashing down on me. That seems like the best solution if I can make it work what do you think?
@junker845
@junker845 6 жыл бұрын
Have you considered making the uppermost back strap wider or heavier, more akin to what's found on a modern sidearm shoulder holster? would that type of contoured, wide strap be historical? also, who the hell is the 1 dude who gave this vid a thumbs down?!
@CAepicreviews
@CAepicreviews 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, quick question; Have you heard of the game called "Exanima"? It's a physics based fighting game, in which you're set in some medieval era - specifically there is something I especially think you'll like about it. You have the ability to layer your armor, and armor means *a lot* and costs *a lot*. Armor also only matters to what it covers, i.e. chest armor will not lower damage taken from being hit in the head. Mail armor makes you practically invulnerable to cutting/slashing damage (Although you can take some blunt impact damage from it, though it is not much). Plate armor does that even better, and provides even more resistance. For instance, you can layer yourself like this - Clothes, Padded Armor, Gambeson, Mail and finally Plate. Being equipped like this makes it incredibly difficult to receive lethal damage, and can make things like sword blows almost useless.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've played it a bit. I've mostly fooled around in the arena mode but haven't done much in the other mode. I like how they're handling the armor.
@papabearpaw5866
@papabearpaw5866 7 жыл бұрын
Take care
@WoWplayer791
@WoWplayer791 7 жыл бұрын
Any plans to do a collab with scholagladiatoria after he mentioned you in his last video?
@martynkalendar
@martynkalendar 7 жыл бұрын
My solution is to just make everything and then remake everything over and over again until I get it right. Edit* had not watched the entire video, there is not really any difference between how I fix these kinds of problems and how you do. My comment was unnecesary.
@duchessskye4072
@duchessskye4072 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I have not subscribed to you earlier Quick question: Say that I wanted to make my own mail. The 4-in-one riveted pattern is what I would go for of course but how wide should the rings be? And what material should I use; Iron, mild steel, or hardened steel for best authenticity?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of variation in medieval European mail. The only thing it _all_ has in common is that it's all riveted. Depending on the specific time period and region, you will see different ring configurations like round vs flat, or mixed round and flat, fully riveted vs demi-riveted (demi-riveted meaning that one row of riveted rings is alternated with a row of solid rings), round rivets vs wedge rivets. Materials used were iron, low carbon steels, medium carbon steels (sometimes hardened through quenching). Size varies from internal diameters of just a few mm up to 10 or 11mm depending on what it's used for etc., although the average seems to be closer to 5 or 6 mm internal diameter. The best way to make something authentically is to look at a lot of originals and then pick one that you'd like to base your garment off of. Hardened mail is hardened _after_ it's made, or you won't be able to bend and rivet the rings. Here is an album of some extant mail - www.pinterest.com/knyghterrant/extant-mail/ More data can be found on websites like the hosting Museums, sometimes they give ring size information. The Wallace Collection website has good info (Put 'mail shirt' in the search bar - wallacelive.wallacecollection.org/eMuseumPlus).
@cloudcleaver23
@cloudcleaver23 7 жыл бұрын
You've inspired me to get started on my own historical harness, though I'll be aiming for mid-1400s. To what degree is your kit sourced out to custom makers, versus stock parts from manufacturers, versus manual labor done yourself? Trying to manage the cost without compromising authenticity seems difficult, to say the least.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
All of the hard armor is done custom, the clothing and arming garments is all my work.
@cloudcleaver23
@cloudcleaver23 7 жыл бұрын
I know that hand-sewing makes a huge difference in leather goods (that's my father's forte, but 18th century). Is it similarly superior in the cloth items?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
I hand sew all my leather goods, with clothing sometimes I will machine sew a seam and hand-finish all the seams and hems, sometimes I will just hand sew the whole thing. It's not necessarily superior in strength, but some techniques just require it and it certainly looks better on anything that's visible. My living history group requires that any visible stitch must be hand sewn.
@cloudcleaver23
@cloudcleaver23 7 жыл бұрын
How hellish is that to learn for someone who's never sewn at all?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
It's not terrible. I learned slowly over time. I'm not great at it, but it's passable. You can do quite a lot with a few basic stitches and some understanding of construction. A great book to begin with is The Medieval Tailor's Assistant. Not all the patterns in there are perfectly authentic, but it does a good job of breaking it down in to basic techniques and fundamentals.
@WarlordFlanker
@WarlordFlanker 7 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the historical references to that type of riveting/articulation. I'd love to use it in my kit, was it a widespread pattern?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
It's fairly well represented in the mid to late 15th century. No early 15th century English arms survive which is why we've experimented with different styles of articulation on these. If you have access to Dr. Goll's thesis (archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/volltextserver/17203/) , the following are examples are a few that display this type of articulation: goll_ref_arm_187 (Wallace A20) goll_ref_arm_262 (Berlin No Accession # listed) goll_ref_arm_274 (Dresden N13) goll_ref_arm_282 (Higgins 2686) goll_ref_arm_304 (Munich 1353) goll_ref_arm_324 (Churburg CHS45)
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 6 жыл бұрын
It's rare indeed that I get kit that doesn't need any work doing to it.
@mitutoyo34
@mitutoyo34 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian. My Armour is pretty much hybrid .I got a German salett the gorget is English, pauldrons are German Gothic, my arms are Milanese. The list goes on. I decided it like that mostly because availability in my own preference on different parts of the armor. I had to make quite a few modifications. Have you seen hybrid Armor did that happen in history?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
I don't really know of any evidence for that level of mixing of styles. It's important to understand that it's not just _fashion_ but also _function_ . Italian export armor design is made to appeal to a certain aesthetic, but the pieces are _functionally_ designed to work with one another, much the same way that _Gothic_ armor is made to appeal to a certain clientele, but simultaneously is meant to work as a system with other components made with the same design philosophy. Big Italian pauldrons may not ride on a Gothic cuirass as nicely and with as little interference as possible as it would the more rounded and smooth Italian cuirass it was intended to complement as an example.
@mitutoyo34
@mitutoyo34 6 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant yes I had to modify. It quite a bit but now I have it where I can wear it and move around. lesson learned . I like the way it looks and it's also very protective and functional now
@Captain-Electro
@Captain-Electro 7 жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me of shoulder holsters for pistols.
@Mtonazzi
@Mtonazzi 7 жыл бұрын
Then there's the worst kind of reenactors: "I've already spent money and/or time on this kit, ain't fixint it". Here I still see decade old synthetic cloaks rather than wool ones; or combat boots with some fabric wrapped on them...
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a huge problem too. This is one of the reasons I prefer to do living history in small groups where everyone is willing to adhere to a high level of standards. We give up the big large scale stuff, but for everything else it keeps me a lot more sane. :)
@Mtonazzi
@Mtonazzi 7 жыл бұрын
Aye, I'm in a small group and we require people to show historical basis for wathever they plan to buy or manufacture before they do; but that's a less than a year old meassure, and here we have a lot of small groups, each one with different standards... and more often than not when we call off people doing that, they never get told to put their act up or leave because they're friends before reenactors.
@TanitAkavirius
@TanitAkavirius 7 жыл бұрын
not every soldier would be rich.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
That's not really what we're talking about. There's nothing wrong with re-enactors choosing to portray ordinary soldiers, in fact, that's something that's very under-represented in re-enactment as a whole and important to an overall accurate presentation. We're just talking about the never ending battle between re-enactors about standards of historical authenticity. The larger a group gets, the harder it is to enforce high standards of making sure people aren't using things that are blatantly not historical, like modern footwear, polyester cloaks or plastic armor etc...
@Mtonazzi
@Mtonazzi 7 жыл бұрын
TanitAkavirus, as Knyght Errant said, one of my examples where people wearing combat boots with something (and some times even synthetic fur!) around them instead of using historically accurate looking shoes, or wearing stuff of dubious documentation like leather vambraces on a XIIth century man at arms.
@Beardshire
@Beardshire 7 жыл бұрын
I went to a fare in full kite and I was only able to wear it about 5 hours, it wasn't particularly hot, but the weight of it made me concede. Five days later i still feel it. What is a typical amount of time in full plate walking around? I feel like it may be a bit heavy on the shoulders but I'm not sure how to alleviate it.
@exploatores
@exploatores 7 жыл бұрын
How much experience do you have with wearing any heavy gear?
@Beardshire
@Beardshire 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I wear my Viking hauberk and helmet all day and have no problems. This is just really heavy like i'm ready to collapse lol. The weird thing is it's not any heavier really both weigh about 40 pounds give or take. But to answer, in plate armor no, it weighs in different places i'm not used to.
@Mtonazzi
@Mtonazzi 7 жыл бұрын
Does it sits right on your waist? With a hauberk it's easy to fix that with a tight belt and you can call it a day; plate requires more tailoring.
@Beardshire
@Beardshire 7 жыл бұрын
I do not have a cuirass, it's sort of the pikeman design with helmet shoulders and an aketon. Maybe that's the problem is there is nothing for the pauldrons and helmet/camail to rest on taking the weight off the shoulders.
@Mtonazzi
@Mtonazzi 7 жыл бұрын
That shouldnt really be an issue, since those would rest on the shoulders, and the cuirass is the one that should rest on your waits. Mind posting a photo of your kit? Perhaps that will help me "troubleshoot" it.
@ericwalter651
@ericwalter651 5 жыл бұрын
Question would it be plausible to instead of having a textile or leather system holding the sleeves together could they just be connected as a solid piece of maille like a hauberk with most of the bottom removed?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. In some historical examples you see strips of mail in place of where the upper back straps are, and in some artwork you see a much larger panel of mail connecting the sleeves in the back. I've actually converted mine to something similar since the making of this video. It works very well. Here's a post about some of those changes - facebook.com/KnyghtErrant/posts/2246597168748988
@FlorisGerber
@FlorisGerber 6 жыл бұрын
funny how you describe some of my exact problems... My pauldrons are not made to fit my arms, and so they both open up too much and turn on my arm. Your Hybrid solution looks promising, I think about trying that. I am currently working on a video which shows how I modified my cheap breastplate to fit my needs. Would you like to see it?
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 7 жыл бұрын
You should do a colab video with Matt Easton someday, better yet, save up and take a vacation in England and do a video with Matt, & Dr. Capwell, at The Wallace Collection. Now that would be an epic video.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to do something like that one day!
@tomgarney7700
@tomgarney7700 7 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase your armor? Where do the folks who do the full armored combat buy theirs? A video that discusses modern Medieval armor that can survive full on combat would be interesting. Thanks
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
My plate armor was all made by Jeff Wasson at www.wassonartistry.com with the exception of my bascinet, which was made by Piotr Feret - www.platener.eu
@haydenschmidt9709
@haydenschmidt9709 7 жыл бұрын
What kind of steel is your armour? If it is not stainless, then what do you put on it to stop rust? Based on the way you handle it in your videos, it doesn't seem like it has oil on it, but I am just curious as to what you use on it. Thanks.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Hayden Schmidt my armor is mostly 1050 spring steel, hardened and tempered. This is what I do to keep it rust free and remove rust when it occurs: knyghterrant.com/index.php/tutorials/modern-plate-armor-maintenance/
@talloncorp3772
@talloncorp3772 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, i've just gotten a haubergeon that goes over a jupon , the arms were tailored on the shirt but i have found that they condense the padded arm underneath to the extent that it is quite constrictive. Would you suggest making the maile arms wider in diameter or removing the padding in the arm ?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Without seeing your kit it's hard for me to say, but in my observation, depending on what most people intend to use their armor for, most people wear far too much padding underneath their armor.
@talloncorp3772
@talloncorp3772 7 жыл бұрын
Ah okay, yeah i think from looking at your jack it seems much more closely fitting than mine, i am going for this sort of look : but with an arm harness i.pinimg.com/736x/20/30/ff/2030ff8cc1337d2cf188f8f8a15e724a.jpg thanks for the info !
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Tallon Corp that style of jupon is intended to be worn _over_ armor. The breastplate on the outside was just one fashion for it, but in general the armor goes under it. Jupons, like the surviving Charles VI garment are the outer layer.
@talloncorp3772
@talloncorp3772 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes of course, I am just saying that mine looks like that but it is not that style as such. It's basically an overly padded gambeson, neither fitted enough to allow maile over nor large enough to let it be worn under, alas. thanks for your thoughts though, I think I will have to reduce the padding. or buy a better one...
@MrTrilbe
@MrTrilbe 7 жыл бұрын
Is there any evidence for Mail sleeves being buckled directly to the Aketon? Since the range of movement would be the same they would be more closely aligned. Unless i'm missing something obvious by over thinking things
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
There are examples of mail sleeves that are sewn directly to arming garments. The reason I chose not to do that is because I need to be able to effectively _go back in time_ to the 1380s and wear my full mail shirt sometimes as dictated by my living history group so that wasn't an option for me.
@okin_rezresua1715
@okin_rezresua1715 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, I have a special question. Why is it we see common soldiers on late 15th century depictions with amazing torso armour ( padded jacked + mail shirt + brigandine + additional plate in the stomach area ), but next to no protection on the arms and legs? I'm pretty sure mail and brigandine would be more than enough to protect from any weapon but maybe lances, leaving more money to armor the arms and legs.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Historically the priority in arming the body is always the head, then the body, then the limbs, basically in order of what kills you the fastest. This priority is the same today, with ballistic helmets, plate carriers that protect the vital organs, and then occasionally people wear their side and groin plates if they have them at all. Now when it comes to fitting large amounts of troops, they're generally getting what is called 'munitions grade' armor, which is essentially pre-industrialized mass-produced armor. My opinion is that it's not that hard to make a ton of helmets and breastplates or brigs for generic sized men, but when it comes to limb armor, fit matters a whole lot more. You would introduce on a whole new level of complexity to trying to outfit people as quickly as possible, one that is probably not worth the time or effort. The presence of leg harness is usually one of the tell-tale signs that the person you're looking at isn't just you're run of the mill poor soldier.
@okin_rezresua1715
@okin_rezresua1715 7 жыл бұрын
That was quick! I can see that would make sense. Appreciate it.
@glowstickofdestiny1290
@glowstickofdestiny1290 7 жыл бұрын
There's something I've been wondering: was mail ever heat-treated? I don't know that much about armor-smithing, but it seems like it would be rather difficult.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Wallace Collection A3 and A6 mail shirts were both quench hardened. Those are two I can name, but I'm sure there are other examples out there as well.
@glowstickofdestiny1290
@glowstickofdestiny1290 7 жыл бұрын
Alright, good to know. Thanks!
@YLS8763
@YLS8763 5 жыл бұрын
0:00-0:03 When you hear somebody say Enter Sandman is their favorite Metallica song
@humungus3
@humungus3 7 жыл бұрын
So what kind of torso armour will you be wearing with this?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Breastplate with reredos (saloon door backplates) and a paunce of plates.
@IG-88r
@IG-88r 7 жыл бұрын
XD the problem with transitional harnesses is that you have to deal with transitional problems
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
#early15thcproblems
@IG-88r
@IG-88r 7 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant indeed!, I'm hitting my head on the wall making a particular suit that includes scale fauld and those are full of surprises, it behaves a bit like a normal hooped fauld but the flexibility, static friction of the leather foundation makes it a bit annoying, also you can't sit easily and the transition from breastplate and fauld is tricky but heh, there can't be reenactment without having a fiery stubbornness
@joshklein987
@joshklein987 7 жыл бұрын
Shit dude I just realized that you look like binging with babish
@SmaugTheTerrible
@SmaugTheTerrible 7 жыл бұрын
Shit I just came from a BWB video and youre damn right I always used to think he looked a bit like Ian Mccollum but with reversed hairstyle
@dunkelrot666
@dunkelrot666 7 жыл бұрын
omg your right they look so similar
@larsschroter6994
@larsschroter6994 7 жыл бұрын
you look fabulous! please make a short dancing video.
@mr.unitato7955
@mr.unitato7955 7 жыл бұрын
Ome you look like the guy who made the planet nomads game you should serch it up
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 7 жыл бұрын
But can you still put your old pair of spaulders over this fixed variant like you could do before?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
The actual surface of the spaulders and lames has not been altered from the fully riveted articulation to the hybrid articulation.
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answer!
@COSMOKRAT_616
@COSMOKRAT_616 6 жыл бұрын
Really trying to figure out why there are 2 dislikes on this video...
@spartan-s013
@spartan-s013 4 жыл бұрын
hi there , i got a question. How thick is your arming doublet?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 4 жыл бұрын
Not very. It's an outer shell of linen, a lining of lighter linen, and 1 or 2 layers of batting in between depending on the location on the body. The next version will be built without batting using a layered construction instead.
@spartan-s013
@spartan-s013 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant awsome thx for fast answer, i'm just looking for an arming duoblet for myself for my mid 15th century plate, just can't find any sources on the thickness of these, thank you again
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 4 жыл бұрын
Under a complete 15th century harness, the doublet does not need to be thick, but it does need to be strong and stout so it will support things without them shifting around.
@spartan-s013
@spartan-s013 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant understood, can i ask you for any source or a book's title for more specifications? I want to use it in full combat type IMCF but they are short on any information
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 4 жыл бұрын
My personal doublet uses an adapted version of a publicly available pattern of the Charles de Blois doublet. It may be stylistically too early for what you're looking for though. The pattern as is was designed to fit lots of people, so it will not fit _well_ without altering it to yourself. www.lulu.com/shop/tasha-kelly/the-pourpoint-of-charles-de-blois/paperback/product-22344252.html
@TanitAkavirius
@TanitAkavirius 7 жыл бұрын
11:00 orgasmic, perfect fit! What if you gain or lose muscles or fat? Would you need a new armor?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
If you change shape considerably, certain pieces will need to be adjusted or replaced. It depends on the individual piece and just how much leeway you would in the way it's designed. If your waist size changes dramatically for example, you may not be able to wear your full cuirass anymore without serious modification or replacement. The more precisely fit the piece, the less forgiving it is if you change size.
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where to go to learn how to make historical clothing?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
A good starting place is a book called 'The Medieval Tailor's Assistant.' Not all of the patterns in it are correct for documented medieval garments, but the techniques you learn from the book are a great starting point.
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 7 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Thanks so for this 😀
@commonpepe2270
@commonpepe2270 7 жыл бұрын
wtf. a video thats not about thrand? HERESY
@stevengood1812
@stevengood1812 7 жыл бұрын
Oi is that a tattoo I see creeping out from under your right sleeve
@jamesshantie5758
@jamesshantie5758 7 жыл бұрын
Dude did you hear about thengthrand?
@Teknokraatti
@Teknokraatti 7 жыл бұрын
Given that he opened a channel on Vidme today, I'd say it's quite likely.
@larrywave
@larrywave 7 жыл бұрын
Miska Kopperoinen dude are finnish ?
@larrywave
@larrywave 7 жыл бұрын
Miska Kopperoinen and link to his vidme 😊
@Teknokraatti
@Teknokraatti 7 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. He goes by the same name in Vidme, you'll find it easily enough.
@larrywave
@larrywave 7 жыл бұрын
Miska Kopperoinen okey thanks
@andrewhallard537
@andrewhallard537 3 жыл бұрын
So if the only places you need mail is your armpits and elbow, wouldn't it make sense to just have mail there and lace it to the arming jacket
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 3 жыл бұрын
What you're describing are called _voiders_ of mail, and they become much more common as the 15th century develops but full sleeves stick around at least through the 16th century.
@andrewhallard537
@andrewhallard537 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant oh wow, voiders are exactly what I was thinking of! It's pretty cool how chainmail is always a persistent piece of armor throughout history
@atic7910
@atic7910 7 жыл бұрын
how old are you?
@BingleFlimp
@BingleFlimp 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of his fit, his cuirass isn't to my taste and the style of armour looks a little too boring, again at least for my tastes, but I will say that his arms looked pretty sweet with that armour.
@aldahiraguirre9789
@aldahiraguirre9789 7 жыл бұрын
:v
@macmurfy2jka
@macmurfy2jka 7 жыл бұрын
Oh no, have you trimmed your beard!? For shame!
@gardenlizard1586
@gardenlizard1586 6 жыл бұрын
Put on pounds and pay dollars for new armour. Joke
@v.w.singer9638
@v.w.singer9638 7 жыл бұрын
For the fabric version of the sleeve mail, how about reinforcing the fabric with a yolk shaped layer of fabric over the shoulders and around the neck, perhaps extending into a collar shaped piece around to the front which can be laced. In other words, creating a load bearing panel in the fabric.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
I think that's a really good idea. When I have time I would very much like to revisit the fabric version of this. I just think it's a cool solution and I was disappointed I didn't get it to work the first time. I really wish there were better photos of the original so we could see the construction of the garment.
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