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[@JB12132]

A quick udate on the my Jon-Itis: Started watching this channel about a year ago and as always you come away with all the info/demos to make a choice based on facts. You are the authority in this area for sure. Here's my purchased list: 1. Bilt & H clay bar, what a win that is, using water and no need to purchase any liquids. 2. Bilt & H alloy cleaner, no acids what a product. 3. The MJJC snow canon. Wow, game changer 4. Bilt & H Touchless foam 5. Large orange Korean towel for driving 6. A mit! I mean you can sell me anything mate. 7. AutoG Foam wash 8. Maguires 3 in 1 - love this product's finish and ease of use. The pad it comes with soon can't handle an entire buff so swap to a microfibre. Question... is that a good enough wax to protect berween car washes? 9. Bilt H Car bomb! You underplayed how great this smells! Again you video showed what it involved and I wasn't shafted £90 by anyone to do it as I had no idea what was involved until I saw your vid. I thought I was over my Jon-Itis until last week in Norfolk, I was attacked by large wood pigeon poos. Fruit based diet 5 large hits on the front of my BMW F31. I did not see them until 24 hours later as they were on the very front. Parked at the beach so they got proper baked in. Then when I did notice them they were so solid I woudl have scratched the paitn without any products to hand. Got back and did all of the above list as my wash routine (not clay everytime) but nothing worked, I started to weep slowly and then your channel gave me the condfidence to try machine polishing. I had some AutoG Super Resin but by hand nothing was happening. It was pretty much in the clear coat very slight texture. 10. In2Detailing DA8 Dual Action machine polisher!! After countless videos from you I felt I had the basics embedded to go try it. BTW the bag is top notch it comes with. 11. Koch Chemie F6.01 Fine Polishing Compound with matching pad 12. Koch Chemie M3.02 Micro Polishing Compound with matching pad Bird etchings gone!!! Thank you so much for all the ahrd work you put in to tell us all you can. It's a game changer. On one of the etchings the M3 was enough, needed a little pressure after a while not much. Then the rest all needed a good 4 minutes of F6 working over and then a second round but all without pressure then back over with M3. I can not believe they have gone. The M3 is a normal finishing polish? Like how you can polish a car with say AutoG SRP and then add a wax? An everytime polish? It's look so deep, I have the Melbourne Metalic Red and the gloss is off the scale from these pads. Jon, you legend I think I'm all set up now. Another question if you get time, if you finish the car off with a ceramic coating, how would I approach the next wash? Just wash with water and dry off? Would the jet wash remove it? Would using the snow foam and jet wash remove it? Thanks Jonathan

[@ForensicDetailing]

Thx m8. M3 is pure abrasive finishing polish. Srp is like a filler resin plus abrasive. Check out rupes advanced for maintenance polish and protect its next level.

[@JB12132]

@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for the time to reply. So the M3 is an 'everyday' polish (I say everyday but as in I could use it every two months without cutting my clear coat to bits?) Will purchase some of that Rupes too! Nice.

[@DavidC1]

Jon looks like that polish is very sticky, i could see the pad sticking to it and ppulling during your set. i think you should wiz over it with s20black to clean it up or a cleanser wax.

[@fabimesizae]

Hello. Very interesting channel. Have you ever tried Labocosmetica products? Greetings

[@mic437]

WHAT ABOUT WATERLESS WASHES

[@stevenwillox6768]

Correction Jon, AIO’s rather than AOI’s 🫣 All One In’s sounds like something from the Three Musketeers! Hahaha. Love the videos!

[@ForensicDetailing]

i cant say it right m8 its locked into my tiny brain wrong and I just say it wrong all the time.

[@stevenwillox6768]

@@ForensicDetailing hahaha I know what you mean, I do it with things too. I’m saying it a bit tongue in cheek, only a bit of banter don’t worry 😀

[@thesean68]

Who did the paint on your car Jon ? Looks bloody good

[@Fantic1980]

You're not winning me over with that polish Jon, that looks a right pain in the arse to get off 🤣

[@DavidC1]

Get in

[@01123581321341]

I love a bit if Koch Chemie but i’m not persuaded by these type of products….but as you said if that’s what you want then go for it, i’m sure it’s top stuff👌 I go down the path of get the paint to a high standard, apply something durable (~1 year) then a light polish/decon then another product for ~1 year and so on.

[@AlexGnok]

What products do you use for a year round protection?

[@01123581321341]

I’ll try different ones time - i’ve used things like TAC Moonlight, Soft99 Fusso, 1 year coatings from Autobead. At the moment i have Gyeon EVO ONE which is rated for 24 months max but after 18 i’ll probably refresh it 👍

[@AlexGnok]

@@01123581321341 never used the rest but the Fusso one is only 6 months isn't it?

[@01123581321341]

check out Moonlight it’s great stuff. Fusso is a 12 month wax - Soft99 do other waxes like King of Gloss that are less durable but the flagship wax from Soft99 is 12 months - obviously after maybe 9 or 10 you could reapply.

[@AlexGnok]

@@01123581321341 will check it out, thanks for your suggestions - currently fed up with reapplying waxes / sprays every month!

[@m3nine11]

May I ask why the car has just come back from the bodyshop? As didn’t you have this car resprayed not so long ago?

[@ForensicDetailing]

9lf vid m8

[@m3nine11]

@@ForensicDetailing sorry I don’t understand what you mean Jon?

[@m3nine11]

@@ForensicDetailingjust following up on this mate.

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

Wouldn't you rather do a nice correction to a satisfactory level and then coat the paint. Wash it as safely as possible and then after a year or more repolish and recoat?

[@ImranAli-rp4kd]

New cars are the same, we can’t keep chopping clear coat as new ones have hardly any paint on there, some new cars have little as 50-70 microns of paint , that’s why glazes will play a role in detailing in the coming years

[@martynedwards1493]

I do 90% one steps, various quality high end cars prep for resale. Koch Chemie P6 & P3 are my go to products! Very easy to use! Question: I subscribe to various detailing channels & you are the only that uses a forced drive/rotation polisher, I swear by mine rarely using my DA at all(flex cordless too) Why does no one else seem to use them?

[@DavidC1]

Because they are idiots who don’t know what they are doing! Forced rotation all the way!

[@ForensicDetailing]

Not sure m8

[@yanniobkirk5744]

The forced rotation DA buffers are harder on your body. Using them all day you'll feel the difference in your arms at least. Free spinning DAs will produce a better finish (in theory) due to the random nature of the pad rotation. 21mm long throw with proper technique will cut faster and finish better than forced rotation. Obviously YMMV. Everyone has a preference and there is nothing wrong with Flex forced rotation DA tools. Flex makes great polishers.

[@martynedwards1493]

@@yanniobkirk5744 I guess it’s all very subjective. Personally I think the pad & compound/polish combination has more influence on the finish than the machine. I just like the non stalling “beast” I use day in/day out, thx for your opinion though

[@NipponStiqqyPaint]

Mike Phillips rocks the Flex XC3401 he was at autogeek forever and know rep’s with 3d car care I think if I was doing pro work my axe would be the Mille, I’ve bought into the Rupes system.

[@joelpotenciano3672]

Hi Jon, greetings from the USA. Many thanks for sharing this review on KC P3.01. I have a quick question if you mind since I have seen your previous posts on Autogylm Super Resin Polish which I have been using for years. Do you find the the performance of P3.01 comparable or superior to Autogylm’s SRP? Hoping you can assist on this one. All the best to you

[@ForensicDetailing]

Srp is more a hand glaze primer filler. P3 is a true finishing polish with wax.

[@shaunofthedead6389]

Hi Jon, would this product be ok to use on softer car paint to remove light swirl marks?

[@ForensicDetailing]

yes mate

[@stretch8613]

What paint inspection light would you recommend please Jon? Not looking to spend a fortune. It’s a pearlescent white if that makes a difference

[@ForensicDetailing]

I use sealey led369

[@ForensicDetailing]

360

[@stretch8613]

@@ForensicDetailing thanks very much

[@AnotherYoutuber460]

Unilite High CRI range.

[@ImranAli-rp4kd]

@@stretch8613 Auto Finesse Swirl Spotter Is ideal as it’s great price and it works great , euro car parts got it on offer £30

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

Jon, we literally can't see what you're seeing in terms if depth and clarity. Time to upgrade to a 4K camera?

[@paulmcwhirter2466]

See u don’t need the dewalt John and I see u have 2 of them and with the £50 u could put it towards a Milwaukee and review it

[@andhen12]

Off topic John. Have you found a wheel brush that gets the barrel on for m4 Cs? Have the same problem on my f11 and can't find anything that fits.

[@ForensicDetailing]

No m8😒

[@simonbradshaw3708]

Nice looking paint makes the car stand out. I've got a BMW with Black Sapphire colour and it's very unforgiving showing all the imperfections. My other BMW has Imperial Blue and I think that's even worse than the black. I presume you're not using the car as a demo for products anymore.

[@foxxyblieu9]

Hey Jon, wondered if you could help. I’m currently using meguiars UC with a light cut pad but I’m not removing the swirls like I want. I’m only trying to remove swirls off a relatively well maintained car, I’m doing about half a small bonnet each time I try but it just isn’t working. What would you recommend?

[@01123581321341]

move to a heavier cutting compound ? A heavy cutting pad ? You’ll probably have to follow up with a finishing set to refine. Forget Meguairs. Go Koch Chemie H9 to cut and M3 to finish with the corresponding pads from Koch Chemie.

[@joeschmoe6908]

What kind of polisher are you using? And what pad? Ultimate compound has pretty good cut, but pad choice is usually at least as important as the compound.

[@foxxyblieu9]

@@joeschmoe6908 I’m using a lake country ccs orange light cut pad with a guild DA polisher knocked on speed 5/6 5500-6800 RPM ish

[@AlexGnok]

How long would this last for John on a daily?

[@ForensicDetailing]

2 months?

[@ned9344]

Would you say this or Maguire's ultimate compound? As it's my first time doing this

[@ForensicDetailing]

UC is cutting this is finishing m8

[@98JamesNixon]

Get Rupes uno protect if you want a one step polish that has a wax as well. Very easy to use

[@MeliorIlle]

Meguiars 3-1 or 3D SPEED are your two best bets for value and quality.

[@chrismajor2501]

PPE wrap it

[@ImranAli-rp4kd]

What’s PPE ?

[@chrismajor2501]

@@ImranAli-rp4kd my bad spell check kicked in Should have been PPF

[@ImranAli-rp4kd]

@@chrismajor2501 I did think so, happens to me stupid phone messes up the spelling, but I did think maybe it’s something different I don’t know about

[@jakethegsd]

Must be Paintwork Protective Equipment.

[@chrisracer2007]

I am really confused with the best washing media. Koch chemistry uses (I think) just generic sponges.... Esoteric swear by their ultra soft sponges, and say that other sponges are a scratch magnet..... And the rag company has one which works with the onr I would like you to make a thorough video converting it to microfiber wash pads sponges from the ⛽ and other offerings mentioned above, but not in the normal way most do. Compete their effectiveness at removing dirt. Then their scratch resistance at a pretty clean car and then a dirtier one. Last but not least use a dirty 🧽 as most people do not hand wash it afterwords, like my uninformed relatives... Also suggest use scenarios.... For instance the sponge for soft paint with negligible amounts of dirt, a microfiber wash pads for normal dirt levels and make some scenarios that could inflict scratches.

[@ForensicDetailing]

We explored this on pro detailers mega test magazine. We conclude chenille is the safest

[@gregsullivan7408]

AOI -> AIO 😃

[@charlesdouglas2877]

Do you rate Koch as a product?

[@andrewb293]

Absolutely, the best range of products by far.

[@DavidC1]

@@andrewb293 like what? Scholl concepts makes better abrasives and polishes.

[@gingerbadger]

@@DavidC1 you on commission or what? 😂

[@DavidC1]

Sorry jon, im sticking with scholl concepts, much higher quality product with newer technology

[@orthodox1717]

P3.01 polish smears, I don’t like it. I don’t use it anymore.

[@SpartanKyuubi]

@@orthodox1717 how many times you gonna write that? You just don’t know how to handle the product. Simple.

[@DavidC1]

@@SpartanKyuubi no you are wrong, scholl concepts makes a better product. A product should be easy for anyone to use and should not have any issues.

[@DavidC1]

@@orthodox1717 get in scholl concepts for the win!

[@SpartanKyuubi]

@@DavidC1 I’m wrong about what? Because you say so? Who the hell are you anyways? This product is extremely easy to use and I have not experienced any issues with.

[@MeliorIlle]

you polish that car so much you probably had to get it repainted.