Kocian in 4-way tie for World Champ in Uneven Bars - Universal Sports

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@vettegaddia6234
@vettegaddia6234 9 жыл бұрын
Komova was a very good sport here. She was the true gold medalist but she smiled and hugged Kocian.
@jojox9791
@jojox9791 9 жыл бұрын
and then took to twitter bashing the Americans, Britain and China. oh yes...great sport? NOT
@vettegaddia6234
@vettegaddia6234 9 жыл бұрын
mrsjojo xoxo Show me a quote from Komova after she shared the gold medal that she went to twitter to bash the other winners...
@jojox9791
@jojox9791 9 жыл бұрын
They have removed it. But if you Google it...you will find it
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
+Vette gadder She implied that US is only good because of steroids which is kind of funny because all the US gymnasts except for Kocian look like they have been sipping on the ol krunk juice. I kid, I kid. But she apologized profusely and the American girls accepted Komova's apology and all is well in gym land and we can all put this non-issue to bed and quit desperately grasping at straws.
@jojox9791
@jojox9791 9 жыл бұрын
+Swan Vika look, it was all over. had she not said it she WOULD NOT HAVE APOLOGIZED! there's a language barrier, I get that, but she basically said "Americans are on steroids and China and great Britain just got lucky". this wasn't after her good medal win. but you cannot tell me you googled it and couldn't find it. she apologized...its done. but she DID say it.
@giogym
@giogym 9 жыл бұрын
Can we all please stop hating on Kocian. She works just as hard as Fan Yilin, Komova, and Spiridinova. Saying that she didn't deserve her medal is plain rude. Sure she wasn't the one who I thought would win but can we just be happy that 3 countries are the world champion on bars! I don't know about the rest of you but I think that's pretty epic!
@danqingyu7420
@danqingyu7420 9 жыл бұрын
+Giovanni Herro Agree, people should not hate Kocian, but that does not mean she deserve the gold medal. I don't hate Kocian, why should I? Kocian didn't anything hurt me. The problem is if these girls cannot be treated professionally, I feel bad for being a gym fan.
@cheenotna2939
@cheenotna2939 9 жыл бұрын
the judges are so insane , I doubt they can see properly
@giogym
@giogym 9 жыл бұрын
+Marina I Ok your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.
@giogym
@giogym 9 жыл бұрын
+Soledad Ferrer I do agree that Kocian wasn't as good as Komova or Spiridinova. My point was that we shouldn't just say that a gymnast doesn't deserve her medal. We can't do anything about it though, the judges aren't going to change the score just because people think Kocian was overscored. And if she was, well the judges are human and they make mistakes. I say that we accept it and move on and if error were made, we should hope that they are addressed and taken care of for the future. :)
@giogym
@giogym 9 жыл бұрын
+Soledad Ferrer yeah I never liked that tie breaking rule! Raisman and Ferrari should've respectively been given there medals along side Mustafina. If two gymnasts tie for third then both should be given their medals. I felt really bad for Ferrari because she was so close to winning an Olympic medal for Italy, but unfortunately the rules were more in favor of Aliya. :( I really think they should get rid of that rule
@nathaliexlr8
@nathaliexlr8 9 жыл бұрын
The number of leg separations and mistakes is so high it's laughable. This routine isn't even worth a bronze medal. The judges need to get a good bitch slap across the face and need to either stop playing favourites or get the fuck off their crack. The four-way-tie was absolute shit and the judges are well aware of that. Yilin and Spiridonova are both good but not in the same league as Komova. Yilin and Spiridonova had visible errors which would cost them in a final. Komova should be the ONLY one in the middle of the podium, with Yilin and Spridonova on the left and right. Kocian up there with them in the gold spot was such a joke.
@isaiahwoodyard7084
@isaiahwoodyard7084 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t hate on Kocian, hate on the judges.
@Se31298
@Se31298 9 жыл бұрын
The only part of this I like is when Gabby and Vika hugged smiling it's nice to see that they can be happy for each other now after the Olympics. Kocian had a horribly messy routine.
@viktoria3639
@viktoria3639 9 жыл бұрын
i was literally laughing my ass off when she got the same e score as komova. judges, if u want to overscore ur favorites, at least have a little bit of brain & not make it so obvious, smh
@jojox9791
@jojox9791 9 жыл бұрын
of course you were, your screen name alone screams biased for vika. but she had her mistakes and deducted for them.
@viktoria3639
@viktoria3639 9 жыл бұрын
+mrsjojo xoxo lol im not hiding the fact that vika is my fav but that doesn't mean that i cannot tell with my eyes and brains who had the better and more superior routine. many americans feel vika was robbed too, except for you because i guess you're the biased one here lmao
@jojox9791
@jojox9791 9 жыл бұрын
+Swan Vika no..I've always been a fan of hers. my heart broke for her in London and I've been following her comeback. they all made mistakes. but vika does pike and bend her knees, just as kocian has leg separations and bends. kocians SV..minus her visible deductions adds up. komova seems to have had a couple other we did not see. I congrarulate them ALL!!! but just stop hating on kocian. she's a great bat worker with a high level of difficulty. she earned her medal as well!!! NOW..had Vika been in top form and nailed her routine? no one could have beat her.
@viktoria3639
@viktoria3639 9 жыл бұрын
Nobody hates Kocian. It is the judging that is ridiculous. If you realise, comments about kocian have only been about her gymnastics. The commentators were sitting at the side of the bars apparatus, they get a sideway view. Mitch fenner and christine still were in awe whe komova finished her routine and the other bbc commentor, also said that komova's routine was flawless, the best out there. They did not give the same reaction when kocian dismounted. Kocian not only also missed handstands, but separated her legs during them too. Komova piked her laidout jaegar and she was penalised in the d score cuz of that, so the questionable part is not in the d score, we are talking about kocian and komova's e score here.
@jojox9791
@jojox9791 9 жыл бұрын
+Swan Vika flawless would be perfect.
@Se31298
@Se31298 9 жыл бұрын
There is NO WAY that routine deserves the same score as Spiridinova, Komova, and Yilin...
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
+Tree Hugger I loved Komova's reaction. She's like "these judges are fucking mental"
@liceous
@liceous 9 жыл бұрын
Ok I really don't like her tbh sorry
@LC-dx2wk
@LC-dx2wk 9 жыл бұрын
Most undeserved among 4.
@davidhaugen8898
@davidhaugen8898 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@ctssam7008
@ctssam7008 9 жыл бұрын
I love how the haters keep hating this girl. This girl just keep collecting gold medals for her records. 3 Gold medals now. lol
@danqingyu7420
@danqingyu7420 9 жыл бұрын
Whatever, how many gold medals she got is none of the fans' business
@lohleena
@lohleena 9 жыл бұрын
1 of which should never exist, u are lying to urself if u think this really should get the same e score as komova, 20 years of being a gym fan tells me something is wrong.
@ctssam7008
@ctssam7008 9 жыл бұрын
+Danqing Yu yeah it matters. She beats Komova in gold medals. She only have 2 :D
@ctssam7008
@ctssam7008 9 жыл бұрын
+LIH YEH LOH Nope, Judges crushed Komova layout jaeger. They downgraded to piked jaeger and E-score is heavily deducted cause of lack of piked position and bent arms.
@danqingyu7420
@danqingyu7420 9 жыл бұрын
+cts sam For her, yes. Of course the medal is important. For me, it will not hurt me, because I know many years later who I will still remember.
@TopherReacts
@TopherReacts 9 жыл бұрын
I love when Fake people who don't even watch Gymnastics try and hate on the American Girls.. Stop being fake.. The USA Women's Gymnastic team is far and away the best in the World.. She more than Deserved that score. Check the Code of points.. Haters gonna Hate behind their Keyboards..
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
+Topher Warren Fuck no. Kocian did not deserve that score. Fuck that.
@nomoreblitz
@nomoreblitz 9 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful routine. Excellent presence.
@otherworld11
@otherworld11 4 жыл бұрын
looks pretty good to me. love to see the good will between her and vika.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's not a bad routine, especially for an American...but I don't think this was in the same league as the routine from Komova. :?
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
Lockon Stratos Nope. I'm staying on this shit. LOL. I could say the same thing about you and the US team, but I won't because I know you like it way too much.
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 9 жыл бұрын
Ky Penn i dare you to say something bad about the russians and something nice about the US, it's okay to like certain countries and gymnasts but when you include nonsense
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
Lockon Stratos Ok...here we go. Russia is very inconsistent and tend to blow it in competition when it really counts. Aliya Mustafina has got to clean her twisting form, Paseka her leg separations on her vault block entry. I always praise US gym...Always. Nothing but respect for their handwork and consistency and also their incredible vaulting and tumbling power. I like Simone...I just think my preferred style is more in the vein of Komova. Actually, i don't much care for Kharenkova because she is only good at beam but for some reason never hits when she needs to.
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 9 жыл бұрын
Ky Penn But in the end it's all about artistry for you. That gets everyone a win whether they suck at everything else. Admit it already. I like artistry as much as the next person but people need to lay off of it every chance they get
@viktoria3639
@viktoria3639 9 жыл бұрын
+Lockon Stratos i don't think kocian deserved the same score as komova either.
@ntabon0219
@ntabon0219 9 жыл бұрын
Congrats to the other medalists as well!!!
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 3 жыл бұрын
Kocian clearly had the worst execution of the top 4 in this final (bent arms all over the place, leg separations, flawed pirouettes, hopped landing) AND the lowest difficulty after not connecting that opening pirouette. A joke of a result. Yilin, Spiridinova, and Komova were great, any order between those 3 makes sense, but Kocian shouldn't have been close.
@horsesgiveuswings23
@horsesgiveuswings23 9 жыл бұрын
She had two leg separations (inbar full and Komova), foot form and maybe a little close on the Jaeger, foot form on the dismount, bent knees on swing into dismount (like Komova) but that's it?? Her legs were glued together on the Pak to Chow 1/2, her handstands looked good, and she had good amplitude. Fan and Spiridonova had issues as well (missed handstands [big one from Dasha], pikey dismount [Fan],). Kocian doesn't have the same naturally pretty toe point that the other three have, and that's the only reason I can think of as two why in the world everyone disagrees so heavily on her being co-champion with Fan, Dasha, and Vika (other than the fact that Americans are stigmatized on being horrible on bars). While I do believe that Vika had the best routine of the four, there is absolutely no reason to be this harsh on Kocian.
@beatricelim7969
@beatricelim7969 9 жыл бұрын
Her coach is really cute
@ntabon0219
@ntabon0219 9 жыл бұрын
Go Madison!!
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 9 жыл бұрын
Madison got a 15.3 for TF so why is a 15.366 here such a stretch? What did Komova get during TF? Oh yeah she fell off.
@brandonaldaymachuse6669
@brandonaldaymachuse6669 3 жыл бұрын
Not hating on anyone, especially Fan and Maddy, but Komova should have stood alone on top. If they are going to give Kocian her full DV for shallow piked stalder work/Komova, then give Komova a 6.7 for the Layout Jaeger....she got 6.6 after they downgraded it to a piked.
@jesuscuauhtemocortizgongor220
@jesuscuauhtemocortizgongor220 4 жыл бұрын
Linda Y Hermosa Como Siempre Mi Campeona.A La Altura De Las Mejores.Espero Qe Estés Bien.😍🇺🇲❤️🇲🇽🤸
@igormateus87
@igormateus87 9 жыл бұрын
Money talks, bullshit walks ....
@123nickiv
@123nickiv 9 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, if they had to "tie-break" like in the Olympics, Kocian would've won Gold... definitely not because of deductions and cleanliness (or lack thereof), but rather difficulty and her "E Score." Love her routine, but she needs to do something about those feet of hers.
@janetratliff3782
@janetratliff3782 9 жыл бұрын
She has really nice form difficult stuff. She does difficult stuff. This deserves a high score.
@dannybro147
@dannybro147 9 жыл бұрын
#WTF
@rileyfeng4577
@rileyfeng4577 8 жыл бұрын
If Ashton was there she would've outscore all 4 of them....
@running_girl5512
@running_girl5512 4 жыл бұрын
Not a chance, Ashton never scores high international and her difficulty is lower than them, so yes she has pretty lines but her scores dont add up. She is given inflated scores in the US.
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 3 жыл бұрын
@@running_girl5512 No, Ashton deserves her scores, gorgeous execution. Her routines at trials deserved to beat any at 2015 Worlds...and any routine Madison Kocian has ever done in her life.
@running_girl5512
@running_girl5512 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zuranthium you are delusional, she never scored as well internationally on the world championship scale. She didn't have the difficulty and no in bars, she wasn't going to medal. Yes her lines are pretty and has good executions on an easier routine , but she needed to upgrade to compete.
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 3 жыл бұрын
@@running_girl5512 Yes she did have Inbars in 2014 and 2016, wtf. I was comparing her 2016 trials routines to the ones here. She scored 15.65 at an INTERNATIONAL competition, by the way. And just because she didn't get the scores she deserved at other times, that doesn't mean it was the correct result. Judging has been very political in the sport. She easily should have won a medal at 2014 Worlds, she got underscored while at the same time Spiridinova was overscored. Ashton's difficulty at 2014 Worlds was even .1 higher than Spiridinova's! Atrocious judging.
@brandonaldaymachuse6669
@brandonaldaymachuse6669 3 жыл бұрын
Ashton with her 6.5 DV would need to score a perfect E to even come close. I love her UBs but she lacked in difficulty...even connecting her dismount could have added 0.1.
@maxvillareal9654
@maxvillareal9654 2 жыл бұрын
This routine was great, compared to everybody else, but was terrible compared to the other 3 winners.
@casaazul6565
@casaazul6565 9 жыл бұрын
world champions? jajajaja
@finaltwo
@finaltwo 9 жыл бұрын
Actually is 3x world champion.
@thinmints4583
@thinmints4583 9 жыл бұрын
+Bdg1991 Actually, she's not three-time World Champion since it's not in the same final.
@finaltwo
@finaltwo 9 жыл бұрын
Team 2014, Team 2015 and Uneven Bars 2015. 3x world champion.
@thinmints4583
@thinmints4583 9 жыл бұрын
+Bdg1991 It has to be in the same category. Simone has many gold medals but she's known as 3-Time World Champ in all around and floor since she won it in the same category. Madison is 2-Time World Champ in teams and World Champ in bars.
@finaltwo
@finaltwo 9 жыл бұрын
+Thien Dinh Simone is a 10x world champion. You can say it's all separate but it's not. Gabby and Aly are 2x Olympic Champion.
@ArtisticGymnastic91
@ArtisticGymnastic91 9 жыл бұрын
Her worst performance at the worlds and her higher socre, that's a shame. Thank god in olympic they never let 4 at same level, specially when they aren't at same level.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
+Ogre Dan With Komova. But Kocian made mistakes, missing a connection. Komova was pretty much perfect. At the Olympics, if Komova and Kocian were to be under the tie-breaking rules, Komova would most likely come out with the gold.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
***** badly missed?? Lol. Get out of here. Let's not forget Kocians toe point, her split legs, messy and close jaeger and legs on dismount and last but not least, her hop on landing.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
+Ogre Dan If we are talking missed handstands then we have to take issue with Fan Yilin and Daria Spiridonova. They were both quite obvious in the missed handstand department.
@TopherReacts
@TopherReacts 9 жыл бұрын
Really... Are you from Russia.. You must be.. See you in RIO in 2016 when The PowerHouse Team of America wins Gold by like 10 points.. Lol
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
+Topher Warren Is that what your crystal ball told you?
@TopherReacts
@TopherReacts 9 жыл бұрын
+Ky Penn... No... It's what the past four years have proven to me... Oh and to Russia!!! Lol...
@monicakelly6273
@monicakelly6273 8 жыл бұрын
+Topher Warren More than 4 years. The Russians did not even get 1 MEDAL in the 08 Olympics. They did well at 2010 worlds. THATS IT
@finaltwo
@finaltwo 8 жыл бұрын
Well it looks like Russia won't be there because they're cheats.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 8 жыл бұрын
Bdg1991 They are going to be in Rio. Rumors are that there will not be a blanket ban against the Russian gymnasts. The only sport with a wide range ban is track and field. The clean Russian artistic and rhythmic gymnasts will be there to ruin all your medal hopes. Have a great day :)
@wkim22
@wkim22 9 жыл бұрын
I watched her routine and I think she deserved the Gold along with other girls. Her handstands were great. In my honest opinion, Fan didn't deserve the Gold because of her obvious errors.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
+Kim Williams Yes, its a decent routine, but when you factor in the fact that Komova and Kocian both had the exact same score, it's really the thing people have issue with...The other two girls Yilin and Spiridonova got deducted properly, but they were saved by their difficulty scores. It's Kocian and Komova tying that has everyone up in arms...They just simply were not on the same level. No way at all.
@wkim22
@wkim22 9 жыл бұрын
You have a point and I wasn't satisfied with how low Komova's E score was. I think the judges screwed this Worlds scoring. I hope it won't be the same in Rio. These judges needs to be axed, they are the people who makes gymnastics controversial in a bad way.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
Kim Williams I think everyone of the winners will use this as motivation to be better. Kocian will probably be analyzing her routine and seeing where she could improve, Komova will look at ways to increase her difficulty, Yilin will look at her execution and Daria is pretty maxed out, but she is a little out of shape, so I think if these girls make EF again, they will each try hard to make their wins emphatic so there's no doubt who deserves which medal. At the end of the day, they all got gold, so all are world champs. Komova finally surpassed Mustafina as the best bar worker since Khorkina.
@wkim22
@wkim22 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not being negative but I think Kocian and Yilin won't make it to EF in Rio but if they do, I doubt they'd even medal. With Mustafina in the mix Vika would get Silver at best in bars final depends if she improves her E score. The Russian team will surely increase their D scores for Rio if they don't want the same thing to happen like in Beijing. You can't win with Low D Score especially if you're not very consistent unless others messed up. But it's Olympics they really need to put it together if they don't wanna go home empty handed.
@KP-it6jt
@KP-it6jt 9 жыл бұрын
Kim Williams Remember that in London, Komova hit the LB and got a .5 deduction. She did the same thing in Baku. Had she not done that, she would have outscored Mustafina both times. Uneven Bars Gold has Komova's name on it and I think she will do everything in her power to make sure she gets that damn gold medal once and for all. As much as I want to see Mustafina at Rio, if she's not 100%, its unfair to the other girls to keep her on the team. If anything, she will surely be a replacement for Seda Tutkhalyan on team Russia. I think Komova, Paseka and Spiridonova have all stamped their passports to Rio. The remaining two will be seen, but I think it will be a solid beam worker (Melnikova) and a floor worker. As much as I want Afanasyeva, she has had her day. Time for another young girl to step up on floor...If only Grishina was 100%. She could do beam, bars and floor and put up good scores on all those events.
@franklau4193
@franklau4193 9 жыл бұрын
over score
@shushunovafan4301
@shushunovafan4301 7 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous that this tied with the other 3, especially Komova. Boooooooooo.
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