Kodama/Vial Smasher vs Tevesh/Rograkh vs Old Stickfingers vs Tymna/Kraum | CEDH Gameplay

[@danielemmanuel7829]

Welcome back Ryan! Took me a minute to realize the narration change, Higher has been getting really good at it!

[@simonelias1071]

Is The best narration

[@seanpkrueger]

They each have their own style, cadence, and timbre. Personally I like both, and would enjoy hearing each every other video. A little variation is nice.

[@SickOfItAll1988]

@@seanpkrueger exactly!

[@StackedEDH]

"This deck seeks to cast both of its commanders and assemble a Rube Goldberg of human suffering, forcing each opponent to concede the game out of pain." No press is bad press, I guess 😬😬😬

[@TheGrifcannon22]

Somewhere Ken Baumann feels a warmth in his heart.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Love u Ken

[@styfen]

It's too effing true though. 🤣🤣🤣

[@trveheimer6360]

hatters gonna hatte 😤

[@DutchPenquin]

Honestly felt bad to hear, but such is life.

[@TheMcK777]

Good to have Ryan back *Great* to have Ryan and Higher

[@cireegdoh]

I like Higher...I do. You could tell he was getting better and more comfortable as episodes went on. But Ryan is just *chef's kiss*. That yell from the distance moment was so perfect.

[@bdrsescanor6804]

WHOS LAUGHING NOW

[@dtail74]

doesn't Higher use they/them pronouns? Not trying to be an ass I'm just genuinely asking

[@cireegdoh]

@@dtail74 I'm not sure, so if Higher does use those particular pronouns, then I will need to apologize and correct my comment. Would not have been intentional.

[@dtail74]

@@cireegdoh gosh i love it when people are civil on the internet

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

The description of Sakashima and Krark at the beginning of game 2 was brutal, I laughed hard on that.

[@robaphone251]

Small nitpick, when the Dress Down is in play creatures lose all abilities, meaning Sakashima would lose the legend rule doesn't apply ability meaning one would have to be sacrificed. Not sure it would affect the gameplay, still a great game!

[@mcilroyer3415]

I saw and thought this too

[@cyanideshark136]

I always forget about that because Sakashima the Imposter keeps her name.

[@johnb3427]

Orrr would sakashima just be 3/1 and NOT a copy at all?? I’m wondering here??

[@NordicRest]

Welcome back, Ryan! There was a pretty serious misplay in game 2 with Krarkashima triggers, though. Each trigger resolves independently, and this would have resulted in Noah losing to Pact triggers when fighting over Tainted Pact. Here's the stack: Thoracle ETB trigger, Tainted Pact, Pact of Negation targetting Tainted pact, Krark trigger, Saka trigger. Saka trigger resolves, copying Pact, targetting Tainted Pact. Pact resolves, countering Tainted Pact. Zack has 1 delayed Pact trigger. Stack now looks like: Thoracle, Pact targetting now-gone Tainted Pact, Krark trigger. Krark trigger resolves, copying Pact of Negation, which is forced to target the original Pact of Negation. Copied Pact resolves, countering the original Pact, creating a second delayed trigger, which Noah couldn't pay for. Zack probably still wins, but worth noting for the next time someone decides to make everyone suffer with Krarkashima 🙂

[@sPaZzO2stronk]

I’ll copy my reply I had for someone who had the same question: When the copies are created, the player may choose to pick new targets. In this case, he would leave it as is, irrespective of whether the targets remain legal, therefore the original and copy would fizzle, meaning only has to pay for the first copy that successfully countered the Tainted Pact :)

[@donkekongschlauer6194]

Hi, I love your Gameplay Guys! I just wanted to say I spotted a little error in the game, where Zack tried to winn with Tainted pact on the stack and Noah countered with mindbreak trap: Since both Krark and Sakashima-as-Krark and esper Triggers trigger at the same time, and it is Zack's turn at the moment, his trigger will go on the stack before the Krark triggers do, so he could't have drawn the pact with the esper trigger. I play Krarkashima myself and I think it is a great deck to find the little subtleties that mtg rulings account for! It was great fun watching the viedeo and congrats to Noah and Zack on their wins!

[@WebCamCartmell]

Really good to see another Tevesh&Rog deck running Divergent Transformations! Good job Steven, you were almost there.

[@jurassicjuror]

RYAN!!!!! Welcome back! Good to hear your commentary again 🙂

[@Decavolty]

Can't believe you guys have TWO very good narrators. Unreal talent.

[@davidpipes6805]

That turn 2 citadel win was the coolest and cleanest win I think ever lol

[@sPaZzO2stronk]

This game actually made me learn how to navigate into Krark/Sakashima, where countering the original one *if successful* will bin it rather than allowing them to continually recur something like gitaxian probe to their hand. I haven't seen this being listed anywhere, so very much appreciate the tip going into this degenerate deck my friend decided to build!

[@tylercraig5633]

Welcome back Ryan!! Great job holding down the fort Higher

[@grandterrabyte8996]

I loved that description of the krark and sakashima decklist

[@al007625]

Completely off top. Watching Hot Ones with Sean evens and the episode was resonating with me for some reason and then realized it was playing the same sound clip you guys use and it made my day and I had to come here and share that.

[@kenkokuten4887]

Guess who's back? Back again. Ryan's back, tell a friend! First and foremost welcome back Ryan I hope all is well for you. And definitely give a bit shout-out to Higher for wonderfully holding the fort while you were out.

[@TheSgtferg]

It would be cool to do a video of cedh decks from different eras fighting against each other. Seeing a paradox engine deck vs a deck from now with dockside and breach etc

[@AutkastKain]

The voice changes again! Honestly, I love both

[@Hitzel]

Man at this point, Higher is getting *really* good at sounding like Ryan.

[@aybeesea]

AH Ryan! Welcome back but HUGE kudos to Higher, wouldn't mind him doing more voiceover.

[@paulmcclain642]

That second game was one of the best cEDH games I’ve seen in quite some time. I kept thinking Krarkashima was going to pop off but the interaction was crazy good

[@TheDige]

The timbre of Ryan's voice is as satisfying as a turn 2 win!

[@Lykrast]

Wait wouldn't Dress Down make Sakashima loose the "legend rule doesn't apply" and thus kill it (or Krark) since it's a Krark?

[@happybrain2674]

JUDGE!!!!! please answer this questing!

[@CheeseWedge056]

Yes, Dress down would cause one of them to need to be put into the graveyard due to the "Legend rule."

[@waaaaaaah5135]

That second game was crazy! So much interaction, and that first counter war with Pact of Negation was a sight to behold! Also, welcome back Ryan!

[@DuzaRed]

Ryan is back! Hope the break was nice for you. We like Alex and all, but super used to Ryan!

[@styfen]

Always happy to see Ol' Sticky Fingers in games. One of the best JoJo Stands.

[@williamstotzkowski148]

A welcome return to the OG narrator.

[@simonpark6889]

That game two. OMG, fantastic! Loved it!

[@dancer6452]

I really like the narration done by this man, the other narrator was good but this voice is what I started the channel with so it just feels right

[@razorskatermax35]

Ryan's back let's go, higher was awesome.in your place too, welcome back

[@mati-uf3gz]

Ryan is back holy now this is getting hyped

[@eamonworden4369]

11:38 would the heat shimmer rograkh not stay because dress down removed the ability that it was sacrificed at the end of turn?

[@iV587]

Ryan is back!!!!!! I missed you so much!

[@DarkEinherjar]

Welcome back to the narration, Ryan.

[@variant-cover]

I am amazed at the number of times Mana Crypt/Mana Vault show up in opening hands. I never see mine at any of my games lol.

[@donnieyang2419]

3:15 how was Noah able to cast vamp tutor with no black mana open?

[@MorphioEnzo]

Can’t imagine the smile on my face when I hear your voice again! Thank you so much for bringing you back! Miss you so much and miss the pace so much too! I finally enjoy a episode of this channel again.

[@didupaytheone2678]

Zack oh another win with the fish? Was not easy, made u work for it lol..everyone did a great job...see u next time.

[@tors17]

Welcome back Ryan!

[@Godzilla2000312]

Aye welcome back ryan. Do a collab with the protégé Higher.

[@gregjones336]

Great games! Very fun to watch. Excellent narration

[@themadstudent]

As much as the backup narrator has improved, these videos are much better with Ryan narrating.

[@calebward6583]

The Return of the King 👑

[@outtatime9836]

6:30 omg 😂 I died

[@noahz42]

Ryan is back!!! :D

[@orsettomorbido]

Both games were cool!

[@buddadragonmtg4848]

No offense to Higher he's been doing a great job but it's so good to hear Ryan again.

[@Zamerux]

Was it not a misplay to use Muddle the mixture on peer into the abyss in game 2?

[@awe_re_ah7107]

welcome back ryan!

[@ryznak4814]

At around 13:40 I believe there is a mistake, which could be relevant (didn’t watch the rest of the game). Okay so on the stack we have (from bottom to top) thassa s oracle trigger (not relevant here) tainted pact, pact of negation (targeting tainted pact) and both krark triggers. The first one resolves and we have another pact of negation targeting tainted pact on top of the stack. The top pact of negation should resolve countering tainted pact. Then second krark trigger resolves creating another pact of negation which has to target the other pact of negation because it’s the only legal target. That one will resolve countering the last pact of negation. All of that could be relevant because Noah has to pay for pact twice (once per pact that resolved). While Noah played it out as resolving both krark triggers at the same time, which makes it so that the 2 new pacts can target tainted pact therefore only having one pact resolving and only one pact to pay for. Could other people confirm if I am right pls?

[@ryznak4814]

So if I am right Noah would have lost on the next turn, due to being unable to pay. So yeah pretty relevant mistake. Eta: Pact of negation being chosen as the most valuable card is funny cause it should have killed a player.

[@alexberner1590]

One Pact resolved, the other two fizzled. Only gotta pay for one.

[@sPaZzO2stronk]

@@ryznak4814 When the copies are created, the player may choose to pick new targets. In this case, he would leave it as is, irrespective of whether the targets remain legal, therefore the original and copy would fizzle, meaning only has to pay for the first copy that successfully countered the Tainted Pact :)

[@WhiteWizard42]

"Copy that spell, and you may choose new targets for the copy" - MAY being the operative word. The copy is created targeting the same thing as the original, even though Tainted Pact is no longer on the stack, so you're safe from having to pay for a second pact by just not changing the target.

[@ryznak4814]

@@sPaZzO2stronk thanks for explaining it.

[@hawkicelol]

HELL YEAH NOAH! I love seeing stickfingers pop off.

[@addambarcelos]

wow, the 2nd game was insane! also, welcome back, Ryan o/

[@Cozy_MTG]

Welcome back, Ryan! 🧡

[@kevinsimmons5343]

I spit my lunch out from laughing so hard to Ryan explaining krark and sakishima’s wincon😂😂😂

[@ariankennedy6016]

Ryan! You're back!

[@stonepatberg]

I wanna see more krark/sakashima, it's what I plays as my competitive deck

[@BooksOfTheFallen]

YES! Ryan is back!

[@halvsketchy9293]

Wait why not muddle the mixture on peer into the abyss?

[@connorl0204]

Is ryan back permanently? Hope he was able to resolve whatever pulled him away previously. Alex did a great job listening to feedback and adjusting, but he just doesnt scratch the cedh itch like ryan does.

[@aept208]

Welcome back Ryan

[@shikiemesh2703]

Great games, especially the second one. So much interaction

[@pppricher]

Welcome back Ryan !!!!

[@didupaytheone2678]

Noah great win in game one, I'm firing my lazor!!! Gook luck on game two

[@faultywiring1004]

I'm a simple wizard, I see Pact of Negation thumbnail, I click

[@thomassmart4227]

Yoooo it’s our boy!!!

[@zup9494]

Welcome back, Ryan.

[@PhoenixRNH]

Noah's life total in game 1: LOTS!

[@thomasnoonan2039]

In game one, how did Noah cast the vampiric tutor from exile when a forest was his only land?

[@oliverbeaumont2298]

He had mana floating from culling ritual. You can see it represented by colored dice in front of his lands.

[@aimeduquet4879]

welcome back!

[@ingolf82]

could that bolas citadel combo be pulled off with any BX commander? I think so right? oh wait.. no, it has to be green as well for culling ritual so any Golari+ commander will do really. Muldrota could play things out of the graveyard again should you fail at the combo I guess

[@imthedude5127]

How is verdant catacombs in a rakdos deck?

[@NaturallyAL]

lands are colourless, and verdant catacombs doesn't have any mana symbols in its text, so its colour identity is colourless (ie it is legal in any commander deck, even if the commander isn't red nor green)

[@ElMuzs]

Ryan we missed you!

[@johnsegura6635]

I would like to see if and when they ban thassa oracle what would Cedh would look like. 🤔

[@joshfrancisco6004]

Hm. Maybe a duo commentary 🤔? Higher + Ryan? Pog?

[@ronb7618]

Game Two was an insanely fun watch

[@Bcdeano]

This game is awesome!

[@MarkoftheRings1]

Did Noah not have to pay for three copies of pact of negation at some point? Did he have enough mana/ does it not work how I imagined?

[@ChefBoyarBlump]

HES BACK!!!

[@David-uc6sg]

Would love to see the budget Yuriko list updated.

[@Fdragon1337]

Oh good the other voice is back. Higher is alright but Ryans cadence is just much more soothing.

[@DerronOfCairon]

Choosing violence today. Krakashima puts me in the ground

[@christopherfitzpatrick1483]

ryans back!

[@stefantincescu7169]

welcome back

[@cheezybred]

“He cast mana crypt, mana fault, jeweled lotus” etc etc every turn one lol

[@alargeshark]

What an insane 2nd game

[@jarhead3999]

In game two where the pact has been copied 3 times wouldn´t he have to pay 15 mana at upkeep or loose? and if not why is that?

[@brendylove4285]

The second 2 copies targeted each other so they fizzled

[@jarhead3999]

@@brendylove4285 oh yea true thanks man!

[@Snaglbeest]

A counter needs a valid target to resolve. When you have multiple copies the others just fizzle because the last copy is the one that actually counters the target spell.

[@dasfabelwesen]

The goal of Kark Sakashima is exactly that

[@dustinpalmer]

I feel really bummed I didn’t get to see the Stickfinger’s deck because of how fast Bolas Citadel won that game

[@didupaytheone2678]

Wow game two, everyone was going for the win? Did a great job stopping each other.whos going to win? Could be anyone game

[@ggpt9641]

MVP card in game 1 (spoilers below + discussion) What about Culling Ritual? Awesome that turn 2 win was, Ritual still would've bought a lot of time as a mana rock destroyer that also accelerated, it happened to accelerate into a game win.

[@galacticscalepenguins6092]

I am pretty sure that the text you have shown at 1:34 for The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale is incorrect. Tabernacle is supposed to destroy the creature, not have it be sacrificed. This is not often relevant but indestructible is a thing and as I run the card in my Kozilek, Butcher of Truth deck, the situation of an indestructible creature (Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger) with Tabernacle in play comes up from time to time.

[@matthewspear2053]

It's an old printing. Tabernacle was errated to be destroy instead of sacrifice.

[@nathanallen9068]

Why wouldn’t Noah have had to pay multiple Pact of Negation costs during his upkeep after copying it? Is that not a thing?

[@Repaurcas]

Guess who's back :D

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

I'm pretty sure when Dress down resolved, Saka or Krark have to be sacked to the legendary rule. Saka loses "Legend Rule doesn't apply" and it's named Krark, the Thumbless

[@Iam4lpha]

RYAN IS BACK!!!!!!!!

[@eljuanpapas]

Ryaaaaaan

[@Shmegg]

And Rube Goldberg for the serous wayback throwback win.

[@leonardoherrera8908]

Wouldn't Noah have to pay 15 for all three pact of negations since they were copied?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

You only have to pay if it resolves

[@jorgerodriguezgonzalez1887]

Isn't Dante missing one more mana to cast Kodama on kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJPEp2CprKujfZY ? One colorless floating, jeweled lotus and amber to create 5 mana