I really want to check you guys out, awesome idea that pedal Kohle is testing here
@visualdarkness3 жыл бұрын
Your pedals have been on my buy list for quite a while!
@mikeman1179333 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for making that beast it sounds so wicked
@ONLYPAIN933 жыл бұрын
Make metal dirty again
@ONLYPAIN933 жыл бұрын
@RhinoMan Media We have a judge here nice...hahhah if you spend more time on your metal than your comments it might get better than normie brother ;)
@LordofDiamondsMetal3 жыл бұрын
"play two notes per minute through three fuzz pedals and smoke a joint in between like the Doom guys" lol, that's hilarious
@danielschmidtke92133 жыл бұрын
That reminds me, I just got my Super Fuzz😏
@jasonrader97353 жыл бұрын
As a doom guy, I approve
@Patrick-8573 жыл бұрын
I like to boost the living bejeezus out a Rat with the tone control just dark of center and play in drop A.
@Patrick-8573 жыл бұрын
I should add that I play a single coil baritone through that mess, and I have left my noise suppressor on the shelf the last year or so. Basically the trick is not to stop playing.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
The DARK SIDE of DISTORTION! Who's coming with me? Any recommendations from your side?
@rasmusolesen53073 жыл бұрын
Boss SD-1 -> Acapulco Gold/RAT -> Power Amp. Awesome stuff :D
@bastianmaoro82783 жыл бұрын
The new Nano Metal Muff by EHX. Some RAT pedal dist with HM2 curved EQ style.
@johngallant33213 жыл бұрын
Look into the rigs used by Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel, Immolation and Gorguts. Yeah, they're all oldschool bands, but all of their guitar tones are unique and easily distinguishable from the rest of the pack.
@aarontravis13013 жыл бұрын
You should check out the Way Huge Swollen pickle. Makes a really nice Grindy distortion when blended with a high gain amp.
@MK-oz2lf3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the tone on Fear Factory's "Obsolete" was a grimey yet tight and it is just a modded JCM 800 and a 7 string with an EMG 81. You could just use a Proco Rat as a boost or any pedal that is half drive half fuzz like the Catalinbread Katzenkonig
@TheOtherJohnBrowne3 жыл бұрын
"Kaputt, Kindergarten and Blitzkrieg" I'd buy that album based on the title alone
@debuenzo3 жыл бұрын
Montessori metal
@seangriffey86693 жыл бұрын
I really like using a fuzz pedal and a TS style overdrive in front of it. It doesn't give you a super tight sound, but it absolutely makes it way more usable for riffs, and it makes palm muted actually work.
@Cryptic_Goathammer3 жыл бұрын
Does it actually fits for bm/death riffing ? A la archgoat/ marduk's Fuck me Jesus for instance
@whatskraken38862 жыл бұрын
a TS after fuzz pedals is even better imo
@adammercy3588 Жыл бұрын
I'll do you one better, if you get a BOSS SY-300, and use it as a multi fx processor, you can create stereo patches with 3 oscillators (line input included in each oscillator), pan them about halfway from each other (65% away from center). My left side is a hyper fuzz and the right side is a lead distortion. I get my beefy low end, my criso highs, and my mids are nice and clear. It's buzzy and can chug.
@Auditium3 жыл бұрын
Congrats Christian - you've just found 90's sound of Polish metal bands :D
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Finally!
@SamLibman3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Sludge Metal so much. All kinds of different nasty tones. Fast or slow.
@rk289843 жыл бұрын
A lot of Sludge bands also use old amps from the 70ies/80ies or unusual setups.
@SamLibman3 жыл бұрын
@@rk28984 Absolutely!
@WarrenBey3 жыл бұрын
EHG and Indian are the only sludge bands worth mentioning. It really doesn't deserve a sub-sub-genre.
@SamLibman3 жыл бұрын
@@WarrenBey I very much disagree. There is so much amazing sludge out there.
@camdero32943 жыл бұрын
@@WarrenBey isn’t crowbar sludge tho too? I know Kirk hates that title but still
@cope8473 жыл бұрын
This is the kind if thing I'm looking for. The old school swedish dm/hm-2 tone with more control.
@ridenm77483 ай бұрын
You can use a hm2 as a boost. High level - low distortion. Works better with a ts in the front of everything.
@Artec6193 жыл бұрын
An album with a great dirty guitar tone is Remission, the first Mastodon album. That tone always blew my head off.
@serginhosena3 жыл бұрын
It's awesome!! Mastodon is my favourite band. I think they used Marshall 's JCM800, but I'm not sure how they boosted them.
@nathanlewis42523 жыл бұрын
@@serginhosena true screamer mainly I think bill mentioned he used an old tube king not and I think the amps were more modified idkm
@Zappabain Жыл бұрын
That album is amazing!! my favourite, maybe with the ... around the Sun or whatever.
@johnnydove3 жыл бұрын
"a bag of potatoes falling down the stairs" hahaha holy shit that was a good one, i'm gonna start using that
@regortex33643 жыл бұрын
That saying is at least 40-50 years old, it’s usually used to describe bad drummers.
@theccarbiter3 жыл бұрын
Great way to make a fuzz sound more like a tight distortion is take a less extreme style fuzz (I use a mkII tonebender clone) and max the fuzz on it then stick a treble booster behind it and bam all the low end mess gets cleaned up fantastically. So signal path is guitar into treble booster into fuzz into amp. I’d recommend passive pickups for this but if you use higher output pickups or actives then you’re gonna wanna then the boost down a little bit otherwise it becomes too much. This also works with like a ts style overdrive before the fuzz but not as well. Also I use this in the clean channel with no dirt but it might sound good with the amp a bit dirty idk I haven’t tried it.
@TheExafro3 жыл бұрын
This is a great tip! I've been messing with this the last few months and it also works Fuzz->Treble Boost-> Amp. I tend to prefer having the fuzz first in line to get that nasty mangled signal, and then have the treble boost afterwards to clean it up. The upside the this is that you can really slam the front end of your amp to saturate that first gain stage if you want.
@GreyManFaustus3 жыл бұрын
You can get a mighty mean tone by boosting a JCM-style amp with a Metal Zone. I'm currently using that on my Doom project with a Peavey Windsor and it sounds very reminiscent of The Vision Bleak's older tones.
@Kyouki_IE3 жыл бұрын
"a bag of potatoes falling down the stairs" is probably the best description of guitar tone I've heard in a while hahaha
@wakjob9613 жыл бұрын
I think the Axe FX is the new modern metal sound. Bands are making sounds/tones with those things that can't be replicated with tube amps + real gear. That said...Marshall 2205 + RAT pedal was my go-to back in the day. Not fuzzy. Not distorted. Ended up being something in between.
@ChiAeNima3 жыл бұрын
I'm playing at this moment in a Swamp Sludge/Stoner/Doom Metal band, and hearing the Fuzz instantly takes me to that Sludge feeling, vibe. I'm the guy who will make the fuzz out of control. Awesome one dude.
@debuenzo3 жыл бұрын
What band? Any clips?
@ChiAeNima3 жыл бұрын
@@debuenzo my band is called Wülfcrown but there's nothing already recorded. We're working in two splits with bands from Japan and the US of A. Hope to have something soon. Thanks for the interest bro.
@Supertzar9993 жыл бұрын
I recorded a new song double tracked with different distortion/fuzz combinations. Guitar A was with a Tube Screamer going into a Russian Pickle Fuzz. Guitar B was a Tube Screamer going into a Rat pedal. Huge wall of sound when both tracks are engaged in stereo.
@richarddeeble093 жыл бұрын
This seems to be what Kurt Ballou does so well.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
He’s great! But I think, he’s going for something a lot more dirty. I’m trying to stay Metal and kinda tight. I don’t want total destruction.
@lobster2723 жыл бұрын
Kurt Ballou uses an HM2 (or clone) for his dirtiest tones. That's that signature Entombed buzzsaw sound. I don't think he really uses much fuzz.
@ramonw94303 жыл бұрын
@@lobster272 But he also uses a lot of vintage Traynor and Peavey amps which get pretty fuzzy when dimed out. I have a "73 Traynor Custom Reverb and a '79 Peavey Century (the good ones with the sweepable mids) and they are both total stonerville even half dimed. I've read that he runs similar amps dimed with a tube screamer running into them going into various 4x12 cabs. Along with a myriad of other higher gain amps as well of course. So maybe he doesn't use "fuzz" pedals exactly but he definitely uses a lot of fuzzy sounds in the mix. Of course, the fuzz that comes from these amps is tighter, more organic, more controllable than what you would get with say a Big Muff or one of the Earthquaker devices style fuzz pedals and they do blend quite nicely with HM2 derived sounds.
@DawnofExistence3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I wish more people would tweak their sound a bit to get more unique tones. We are reamping our album with a blend of boosted 5150 and a Butcher, HM-2, multiple mics, and a mix of speakers. I love coming up with unique yet familiar tones 🤘🏻
@z0nnexie3 жыл бұрын
YEESSS! And don't forget to mention, that the part of the secret to your dirty, but still somehow tight sound is your amazing Fernandes baritone guitar! Scale means a lot when you use lower tunings, because it controls the strings tension. Right tension in the strings makes any gain and low frequencies more controllable. A quantity of srings is nothing but more scale length for that solid punchy tone with a lot of clarity. To tell the long story short: strings 27'
@lucwilson13 жыл бұрын
How about a ProCo RAT for some dirt?
@HenritheHorse3 жыл бұрын
Really great for that!
@brianbowersox83923 жыл бұрын
The Walrus Jupiter fuzz sounds pretty heavy when boosted with a tubescreamer.
@BaldyMacbeard3 жыл бұрын
"Today I want to enter dirt land" - things you can say when dialing in your guitar tone, but also to your girlfriend..
@mrclarksix3 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of sound I like, heavy AF but still controlled. I'm running a TH30 with the gain at about 2:30 with an old school MXR 10 band in the loop to remove some of the boomy low end but keep the depth and sculpt the mids.
@EdwinvanKoppen3 жыл бұрын
Yes, make metal more dirty! Love the tech death metal when it came up but nowadays it's way too clean!
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing3 жыл бұрын
Great video. A luxury to hear so many great dirt pedals. I have a power trio. A journalist said my music has a SABBATH vibe but with a Prog Rock sensibility. My pedal board is virtually wired as 4 pedal boards. I use a switcher to switch between them. Each one has about 20 pedals with a compressor, a choice of dirt pedals a gate. delay and reverb. Some have modulation pedals. This allows for dramatic changes between the verse, chorus, mid 8 bridges etc. So I go from low gain pedals for flat picking ...to medium and high gain Marshall type sounds to modern Metal sounds even doom sounds with both OD's and Fuzz pedals. We do my 26 tunes and I use every one of my 72 pedals. In most tunes I use 3 different dirt sounds. I am always looking for better. The Okko Black Beast is a 'must have' Okko also do the Dominator which they put out 15 years ago. They have updated it so it has a balance between the really, really heavy old school and a modern Metal. You will not use on every tune but it killer to write some 'grinders' with. Get your tempo down between 75 to 100 bpm. You will find you come with some really cool new ideas.
@djinferno86903 жыл бұрын
i was actually just considering running a "metal distortion" through a fuzz face and vice versa to see what i end up with. might update later if its got good results.
@smurfsafgoodjam76933 жыл бұрын
what's the update?
@dinonuggies22762 жыл бұрын
Welp, i guess there was no good results lol
@RyRyTheBassGuy3 жыл бұрын
I feel this is one area the digital domain has a leg up. The only downside is setting up a rig for live use. Although the cost of doing that nowadays isn't super crazy.
@oldnikix3 жыл бұрын
Digital distortion can be fun, yes... A very different sentiment.
@FernandoRoma3 жыл бұрын
Those kind of fuzzier lows in modern metal always reminds me of Heartwork from Carcass, love the guitar sound in that album
@georgepelekoudis3 жыл бұрын
The Jupiter pedal kicked ass! Happy new year :)
@mrcoatsworth4293 жыл бұрын
High on Fire has some awesome riffs with fuzzy distortion. Love it!
@topsecret18373 жыл бұрын
I’ve come to fall in love with fuzz pedals. Most people with a cello when they play distortion go high up. I like the low end infinite sustain I can get with a bow. It only takes crunch levels of distortion to turn a cello’s sound to being super dirty. Suddenly you add fuzz to the equation. It would blow the world away.
@casanovafunkenstein5090 Жыл бұрын
I bet it sounds amazing. Miles Moseley does some stuff running his double bass through guitar pedals and it's like a completely different instrument
@Patrick-8573 жыл бұрын
The trick is to use a cranked mid boost before the fuzz with the fuzz gain backed off a bit. Hard clipping is still hard clipping, but it will tighten up the bass some. I have gotten a pretty passable metal tone with a Rat boosted in this way, although the Rat isn't a fuzz, more of a distortion, and the Big Muff works in a similar way if you want a thick and scooped distortion. Big Muff typically wrecks your bass like a fuzz, but mid boosting cleans it up.
@KrachWerke3 жыл бұрын
I find some, especially cheap, fuzz pedals work great into gain channels as boosts. Fuzz/drive all the way down, tone just over 12 o'clock, volume up. It has a similar effect as the tone in your video. Acts like a tube screamer but with a bit more grit. Instead for a tube screamer in front of a fuzz a top boost or mid boost also tames the fuzz bottom end well.
@vomitur3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Kohle! You need to try the Karma Suture (germanium fuzz pedal), from Catalin Bread, used in front of the hi gain channel of a metal amp. Use it like you would use a tubescreamer! Sounds awesome! I've been using this setup with an Engl Powerball. It's weird but, it's like the pedal gives the amp another set of balls, it does something i can't explain to its attack that is thick and balsy, but without the typical "spit" of most fuzzes! Great video, hugs!
@jgmopar3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the late 80's thrash metal tones.
@VortechBand3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, that Marshall tone was the "5150+Rectocab+57" of its time :D
@joequesda153 жыл бұрын
"The Brown Sound" Rip EVH
@JanXD3 жыл бұрын
And Justice For All has the best tube amp metal tone in my opinion. And Heathen's Victims Of Deception has an amazing tone as well.
@instrumentalist283 жыл бұрын
Yep I love that old metallica kill em all sound.
@gibsondavis32553 жыл бұрын
@@JanXD yeah that's what i go for with any tone, maybe a little cleaner or a little dirtier depending on how i'm playing. Either that or nirvana style with a boss bass drive and a chorus but this is not the place for that tone haha
@ForTiorIJohnny3 жыл бұрын
i just got me the Jive pedal. it´s awesome. adds really interesting textures to your tone. and it seems the LED has been adressed. mine isn´t that bright at all. thanks for the suggestion, Chris.
@MK-oz2lf3 жыл бұрын
the EMG is helping the signal stay tight and compressed but what about with passive pickups?
@rk289843 жыл бұрын
In my expereience fuzz pedals sound better with passive PU, EMGs can sound weird through fuzz. Even using a pedal with a buffer before a fuzz can make it sound like shit.
@dennismoes72813 жыл бұрын
And not tot high output
@adilO.o3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are getting better and better !!! This video is very refreshing and really different to what you would find from the main stream Metal KZbinrs !! I really enjoyed every second of it. Interesting to hear a studio, producer guy explore sounds that are not tight and controlled 😄 !! I believe one of the limit of metal guys today, is we are all afraid to disappear in the mix if our tone is not tight, with a lot of brightness and bite. I think one great example of unconventional metal tones is Rabea Massaad in Toska. He's as well a big Fuzz user. Well he's the only guitar in the mix and the bass guy is super tight and focused so he has monstrous wall of sound metal tones !!!
@nikht03 жыл бұрын
To tame the lows it might be interesting to try some multiband distortion pedals and/or a combination of different pedals run in parallel through a high/low crossover pedal.
@DirtyDemos3 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: take a super thick fuzz with a shit ton of low end and mids and throw a tight drive in front of it. Example: Frost Giant Soma with a Pepers' Pedals Dirty Tree in front of it.
@Buttface19813 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently been playing with a similar idea. I have the Old Blood Noise Haunt Fuzz and drive it with a Behringer SF300. I use the mix knob on the Haunt to blend to taste. Just waiting on delivery of my Oh My Goat ;) to blend that in place of the SF300
@Jayarbal3 жыл бұрын
@Kohle: Have you tried the Earthquaker Hoof Fuzz? I was wondering the same thing, I wanted to play tight rhythm with a doomier sound - and that was what I found after testing anything I could get my hands on. It allowed palm mutes with tight attack and a punching yet doomy bass - it's a lovely thing. I used it in front of an Orange Rocker (great amp), sounded great solo on the "clean-but-not-clean"-channel, and just roared on the dirty channel, without making it muddy and flat, still tight. And it doesn't lack in that typical fuzz sustain either. beautiful.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great tip! Thanks!
@SpectreSoundStudios3 жыл бұрын
Second!
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Welcome! How do you like it? Too dirty for you? ;)
@tompung68023 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult I like it I like it I like it!!!
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
@@DudeMcGuybro Haha!
@Dan-O-mite3 жыл бұрын
High on Fire
@NJSmithMusic2 жыл бұрын
Love using super low tuned with fuzz and a TS or Horizon Drive in front. Cut the boost off for leads and kick it back on for chugging and riffs
@cjbrewer38433 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant...personally I love fuzz....for bass. Not a fan for guitar by itself but this video is chock full of badass ideas
@electricmeatpuppet3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do a video on running your guitars through a bunch of household appliances and other crazy shit... light bulbs, drill, vibrator... things I'm sure you've got laying around the studio haha
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! How do I do that?
@electricmeatpuppet3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult I believe you split and divert the speaker out cable into different types of lighbulbs (as a resistor - compressor basically) and then back into the cab... or other appliances for different sounds... Id do a little research first, but sounds like you might be about to have some fun man! Keep up all the great work man, much appreciated. You're a legend brother!
@DerSilvanoАй бұрын
1:14 that rhythm slaps
@danireych3 жыл бұрын
That was fun and inspirational, as always. I feel Will Putney does a good job in getting more distortion and mayhem into modern extreme metal, for example on The Sea of Tragic Beasts by Fit For An Autopsy.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Gonna check that one out! Thanks!
@MetalZoned3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. Cool that it actually worked out well in a mix
@TheGhostGuitars3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the Tubescreamer can help to tame the otherwise unusable fuzz coming outta nother pedal. Mainly only cuz it's hard to find a good fuzz while stuck at home, I had to make do with the other "fuzz" I already have now: an OLD DigiTech Grunge. I got that one as part of a set of second hand pedals full of Ibanez Series 7 pedals (including the SM7 Smash Box, which is what I really wanted) plus a bunch of other pedals including the Grunge. For the longest time I've never really played much with it cuz it's a "bit" too uncontrolled. However during the past year (2020), with one being stuck at home with lots of extra time and less things to do, I started messing around those pedals in my "unusable" pile. With a Tubescreamer (I'm using the TS7 Ton-Lok version) it becomes a bit more manageable and actually sounds fairly good. However, not good enough to topple my current pedals for the heavier hairy side: Ibanez SM7 Smash Box, or my occasional alt, the MT-2 Metal Zone (which is admittedly finicky as hell AND prefers to be in the amp's return loop).
@Anshul16143 жыл бұрын
I have been experimenting with this for sometime. It has been quite enjoyable. Rabea Massaad uses this as well. Tasteful introduction of fuzz with a high gain tone gives a lot of thickness and character.
@TheSPY19973 жыл бұрын
When you played the first chord on the Okko pedal with the Kaput turned up, I immediately made a stank face. That sounded incredible.
@hlrossato3 жыл бұрын
The second riff sounds like some In Flames from the old days! You got me already at that point! Great content as always!
@debuenzo3 жыл бұрын
Yes, def in flames and soilwork vibes from early/mid 2000s. Good ear!
@JeffBarberDigideus3 жыл бұрын
Nice! This pretty much confirms a lot of my approach to distortion and fuzz when playing Doom. When you engage the Black Beast, its reminiscent of a Marshall Mode 4 head distortion. Its the reason not a lot of people liked it for pure high gain, but it has that same "fuzzed up" quality. I use a Mode 4 for playing Doom metal for that very reason. The problem for me with purely fuzz based doom tones (typically Orange amp clean channels with a black russian Big Muff or Proco Rat in front of it) is that you lose the palm mute "crunch". Having a tube screamer or boost in the mix can bring that back, but hearing this, im hearing the same dirty distortion qualities as my MF350.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Don't remember the Mode 4 was that fuzzy! Interesting. Maybe I should try it!
@riffsnoleads3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the gnarly overtones and nastiness you bring up are exactly why I love the Proco Rat and the HM2 so much. That Okko Black Beast reminds me a lot of a Proco Rat, would not be surprised if the circuit is similar. Gotta run that Grindstein in the crunch or lead channel for some proper chainsaw tone. Clean channels or power amps just can't quite get there. ;p
@Patrick-8573 жыл бұрын
Rats are amazing for doom sounds, and are super versatile. You can use it as a boost, you can boost it, you can use it like a fuzz, or you can use it as a distortion. On of the greatest dirt pedals. Big Muffs are awesome too. I have a standard Big Muff, but I also have a Mojo Hand Colossus, which is a Big Muff on crack with a mid control and a 3 position switch for low end shape. It's rough, chaotic and grinding, but the low end is big, thumpy and tight almost like a metal pedal, and mids allow you to solve the Muff getting lost problem. It's got far more character than any amp distortion.
@XlouietheflyX3 жыл бұрын
For a fuzz (I mainly use fuzz for bass) I have an MXR Super Badass Variac Fuzz, which allows you to adjust volume and voltage. Has a lot of tones in it.
@rorybninetythree3 жыл бұрын
bring back the solid state randalls!
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
In one of the next videos!
@manuelninogarces95743 жыл бұрын
excellent content! great to see you have your own channel! Greetings from Ecuador!
@darrelferns89693 жыл бұрын
Proco Rat or a variant of it dialled in just right as a boost, works perfectly for that dirty nasty sound while still being articulate enough.
@plumbummusic20513 жыл бұрын
Basically Metallica on Kill 'Em All, except pairing with a good cab and diff mics would do wonders to make it sound miles better
@darrelferns89693 жыл бұрын
@@plumbummusic2051 Yea apparently that was used. Morbid Angel as well, that whole sound is the rat into a Marshall.
@plumbummusic20513 жыл бұрын
@@darrelferns8969 Now you got me curious as I did not know that, any specific album or most of their stuff?
@darrelferns89693 жыл бұрын
@@plumbummusic2051 I think every album. Certainly from Blessed are the Sick onwards. Every albums production is quite different, but if you listen to the guitars you can hear that trademark rat sound regardless of how different the albums sound.
@zombiemachinery48683 жыл бұрын
Boy, that was a nice fucking riff at the beginning. It gave me some In Flames vibes.
@CrushingAxes3 жыл бұрын
1:14 dude the riff is amazing !!!!
@rk289843 жыл бұрын
Intro Sounds awesome! I used a Fuzz (Blackout Effectors Blunderbuss Fuzz) as a boost for years. Last summer I also used a Behringer SF300 on the Fuzz 1 setting alongside a HM2 clone in the studio to get a really disgustingly awesome tone for a part of a song. If you want to use a Fuzz for a metal tones I would suggest to use it as a boost like a Tubescreamer, Fuzz pedals have more character tough. The Behringer SF300 on the boost setting is a damn nice OD pedal as well, sounds way better than the 23€ it costs!
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the SF300 is great fr the money. Just too muddy and fuzzy for what I was looking for in this video.
@rk289843 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult A friend uses a Earthquaker Dervices Cloven Hoof for his Grindcore band, sounds massive!
@kicsisziszi8 ай бұрын
Great, that at 13:30 the harmonies are staying melodic.
@JoelGilardini3 жыл бұрын
cool you're using that Brunetti XL! I used to have the XL Revo2, it was an amazing amp!
@sludgeon3 жыл бұрын
Also for fuzz pedals it's Black Arts Toneworks, Pharaoh being the most recognised from his offer, but in general the guys has his fuzz, dirty distortion game on point so picking other pedal from him might do it for you. Or his cooperation with DOD, Boneshaker
@iaingill48793 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up, I just ordered a Jive pedal based on this video
@MetalHeadProductions3 жыл бұрын
Hell, Cannibal Corpse got both more extreme and had an even more crazy high gain sound, especially when they were boosting triple recs with metal zones.
@WarrenBey3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they started with Marshall and Crate amps lol
@skaldlouiscyphre24533 жыл бұрын
@@WarrenBey Those Crate (Ampeg) amps define the Florida death metal sound. Personally, I love my Crate GX.
@shawnbrucker16973 жыл бұрын
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 also have a gx-130c and can confirm that it rips
@skaldlouiscyphre24533 жыл бұрын
@@shawnbrucker1697 I actually just have the 15 watt version, but it's got an effects loop so I use it as a preamp in front of whatever amp is handy.
@vm75282 жыл бұрын
What always worked best for me is ProCo Rat into overdriven channel of my amp and fiddle with the filter knob to find the sweet spot. Lots of nice and good nastiness that way Also, for guitarists on the budget, EHX Metal muff alone sounds pretty great
@KohleAudioKult2 жыл бұрын
Rat is great, I agree! The Metal Muff doesn’t really sound fuzzy to me though.
@MyBichSustained3 жыл бұрын
Should have called that pedal SUN IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND!
@XlouietheflyX3 жыл бұрын
I play doom metal, but my sound is closer to Aaron from Paradise Lost. I use a 25.5" scale Schecter super strat with 11-56 D'Addarios and the Bare Knuckle alnico Black Hawk pickup set into an MXR/CAE MC401 clean boost into the Crunch channel of a Peavey JSX, with a cab that has a mix of V30s and H75 Creambacks. I think the alnico Black Hawk is the secret. It has a combo of tight with a dirty low mid purr. Besides that I just have an MS-3 for effects in the loop. I also run an MXR M77 (SD-1 clone) into the Ultra channel of the JSX for the lead sound, with a delay from the MS-3. The only mod to the JSX is Tung Sol 6L6GC-STR quad with new SGRs. This works in well with a nastier sound from our other guitarist through the lead channel of a 6534+ and V30 412
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Aaron is great! He is also using my Grindstein pedal by the way. Sounds like you should check it out too! Interesting setup. I should checkout the Creamback H. I didn't like the M though.
@B4its2L8guy Жыл бұрын
I gave up on my expensive gear, when with cheap stuff and I love my tone now.
@xplanet21123 жыл бұрын
Fantastic demonstration of the tone chasing/finding processes.
@rocklives82513 жыл бұрын
I have been searching for the same thing. I use a Fuzzlord Troglodyte with a jhs series3 distortion or DOD 250 in front of it. Into a clean amp. I bought the Jupiter pedal, thanks for the discount
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Enjoy!
@WarrenBey3 жыл бұрын
Modern, overdriven, or clean 2 effects never get turned off in my chain. 1. JHS - Morning Glory (blue side, everything at 12 o'clock) 2. BBE Sonic Maximizer. Those two things just make everything sound better and tighter. The morning Glory is just magic. Especially for single coil clean tones. But even dirty it just adds a presence that my Friedman doesn't have. And love it or hate it I'm sorry the Sonic Maximizer just adds so much punch and saturation like nothing else. I use the rack version and all the hate I've ever seen for it were from the pedal version. I'm sure you've seen them around. But for sure checkout the Morning Glory IMO it's as magical as a Klon or King of Tone.
@SpaceWolfHudson3 жыл бұрын
I love this. I was always torn between a real dirty fuzzy distortion and the modern tight distortion sound for my guitar playing and could not bring it together for the life of me. Question: I see you put the overdrive in front of the fuzz/distortion pedals. Is there a specific reason why it is not the other way around? Because I was told it is best to put the overdrive after fuzz/distortion pedals.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Mainly because you want to tighten the lowend BEFORE you hit the fuzz. This means there's less lowend going into the fuzz causing less loose and farty distortion.
@SpaceWolfHudson3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult Makes sense! Thanks!
@djay66513 жыл бұрын
I still use most of the rig I had in '95. A Rhoads EX-->FX69 Grunge-->FX40B-->Peavey Bandit Red Stripe 112. The Peavey replaced my '94 Marshall ValveState 8080 in '03.
@skaldlouiscyphre24533 жыл бұрын
I use an FX86, a Bandit 65 and a Master Effects Martyr which is basically the preamp from that Valvestate as a pedal. Mind you, I use all of those things as preamps in front of a Mooer Radar instead of running the distortion pedals into the Bandit. I've also got a Crate GX and a Metal Zone... Apparently my tone is a mix of all of the 90s most hated gear.
@djay66513 жыл бұрын
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 I hear ya. I actually can get a decent sound out of mine. It's definitely got a Swedish chainsaw vibe, even though my garage band played stuff like Sabbath, AuC and Godsmack.
@skaldlouiscyphre24533 жыл бұрын
@@djay6651 I think the Swedish chainsaw can work for sludgy/stonery stuff.
@VTuberDestrisOfficial3 жыл бұрын
That sounded badass, might have to experiment with blending fuzz in.
@KyleBronkington3 жыл бұрын
My favorite tone is my Mooer preamp live emulating an ENGL Blackmore with a Maxon 808 overdrive going through the Rattlesnake IR from your Eminence Metal IR pack! It sounds amazing!
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear people also go for the Rattlesnake. I was afraid it might be too bright.
@iwannabeyourshirt3 жыл бұрын
This seems like the kind of thing the Metal Muff aimed for, but maybe missed. Could be the ear-splitting treble boost on that pedal; who knows? Some of these tones reminded me of Kim Thayil around Badmotorfinger-era Soundgarden. There is definitely a place for fuzz in metal, but I hate that synthy-bitcrusher-with-Soldano-sizzle that a typical Big Muff or generic fuzz does on the lower register. Some fancy DSP company will figure out a dynamic EQ shifting algorithm that adds a treble-charger and backs off the gain a bit once you get below the D string. The high D string, I mean, depending on your downtuning 😂
@funsimulator72462 жыл бұрын
I feel like this would be sick for some grindcore
@ciddax7543 жыл бұрын
That Jupiter FX sounded really dirty as well Okko Black Beast. Have you tried fuzz pedals made for bass? They have typical a blend knob, where you can dial in that dry tone again. Another option would be a Boss LS-2 or EHX TriParallel Mixer to run two or even three pedals in parallel. So a fuzz and another dirt pedal would be an option.
@Davidthestratman7 Жыл бұрын
Try backing off the volume knob on the guitar for the hyper fuzzs. Brutal
@saintlotus933 жыл бұрын
I know Knocked Loose uses the Way Huge Swollen Pickle on parts. Along with a 5150 and Duel Rec, and Mesa cabs, but just having that one change in pedals does help freshen up the tone a lot. They also throw some chorus on parts, which I'm really into. Like a heavier version of Zakk Wylde's tone.
@massttrshrdrharmonicminor20023 жыл бұрын
Forgot name but this band my friend likes is like death/doom/hardcore
@casanovafunkenstein50903 жыл бұрын
Seems like the thing that these pedals do is bring in the character that I really love from Orange amplifiers but with the benefit of being able to also double track a more defined sound with the same amplifier by just disengaging the pedal and swapping in an SD-1/tubescreamer instead of having to worry about needing two amps. Upgraded my Tiny Terror to a BluAmp for the sake of practicality and the one thing it lacks is a more gnarly distortion. Will be on the lookout for something like this once I'm moved to a place where I can keep more than just my acoustic guitar
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Good description! Bluamp is that German modeling amp right?
@casanovafunkenstein50903 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult it's not modelling, it's a hybrid amp based around an atypical valve type that the company acquired through ex-Soviet military surplus as NOS. You get a pretty good build quality and a built in noise gate (amp is very noisy with it disengaged but it does a very good job keeping out of the way), plus a lot of adjustability in tones but it's definitely more of a Marshall/Laney kind of sound than the orange I used to use. Cleans are very good on it though, kind of fender-like and it has a decent speaker-emulated output for what it is (it's probably not as good as what you'd get now on line 6 or Kemper but I decided that getting something that works as hardware alone and wouldn't need firmware updates would be a more reliable long-term investment)
@falcoloco61873 жыл бұрын
richtig geil! Wenn wir irgendwann mal ein Album aufnehmen, kommen wir vielleicht vorbei :D
@dropGwolf3 жыл бұрын
15:49 LOL like a wet fart through a broken megaphone
@yeagerzombie3 жыл бұрын
Im a big fan of fuzz, and I've had alot of success with getting dirty but usable tones by running a tube screamer style overdrive (I use a keeley red dirt) into a russian big muff style fuzz. I like the keeley dark side and the ehx nano Russian big muff.
@ToroKchannel3 жыл бұрын
interesting experiment, I do prefer the second attempt, but I find the first one sounds much better in the mix than with the guitar alone. My type of sound stands somewhere between Havok (especially their album 'time is up') and Pete Cottrell. Fat, precise, tight on the low end but not fuzzy at all :)
@RedHeadGuitar3 жыл бұрын
Well...I'm getting pretty good results with the DOD Carcosa (which is quite cheap and even cheaper when you build the PedalPCB kit from das Musikding). It has a Bias Control for the fuzz (others have that too like the Basic Audio Scarab but that's more of a vintage fuzz), so you can set it up as a dirt pedal with a bit of fuzz flavour. Pump that into a crunch channel and you got something quite useable.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
That one (DOD) is one the shopping list! If it's cool you'll see it in one of my next videos!
@Forests0fFantasy3 жыл бұрын
Try out the DOD Carcossa fuzz. It is based on a Tonebender, but modernized. It has an enormous amount of volume. And the fuzz can be very subtle. I've found myself using it as an alternative to Tube Screamers and other common "modern" overdrives that are used to sculpt the sound prior to hitting the amp.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
That’s the one I wanted to try but forgot the name! Thanks for reminding me!
@sleepwait96133 жыл бұрын
Hey, the first pedal is the one i liked the most. I'd be really curious in knowing how that would work with other distortion pedals in series (more than just a ts) on the brunetti clean channel.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it works with other dist pedals into a clean channel.
@CarcPazu3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kristan, you said that the HM-2 is a nightmare in the studio. I agree with you, I've been trying to record with one, sending it directly into my audio interface and using an amp sim with it. I've never managed to make it sound good and make it fit in a mix. A video on how to use the HM-2 (and the Grindstein) with an IR in a mix would be awesome.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
I have done videos like this about the Grindstein. It’s basically just plug and play with the included IRs. Have a look at the Grindstein playlist on this channel.
@MetalHeadProductions3 жыл бұрын
I have a hail satan fuzz from Abominable Electronics that instantly gets that Doom/Stoner sound, but it has a dry/wet blend on it, and after seeing this, I bet I could get something really cool putting it in front of the blue channel of my EVH stealth and blending in a bit of the fuzz.
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a plan!
@TheExafro3 жыл бұрын
You guys should check out the DOD Boneshaker. I don't see too many of them around, but its awesome for this kind of gross proto HM-2 nastiness. I'd say its more of a fuzzy boost than a distortion pedal, but it definitely excels doing this kind of thing.
@mrparkinson3 жыл бұрын
My grandma loved this video!
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
I told you! ❤️🍺🤪 What was her favorite pedal?
@mrparkinson3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult The Grindstein of course!
@arilshagen83483 жыл бұрын
First time i recorded i used my Marshall 2204 at max with an blackstar tube overdrive. At the same time i used an bogner alcemist at clean with heavy bass setting and almost no treble at all. I used a german built custom guitar with duncan sh-2and sh-6 in it. the bogner and the guitar is history. I generally don't like the modern metal sounds. But there is always something good with all genres of music. i might hate most of it. but there is always something.
@RobbieTayVaughan3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man! I was having trouble as well getting an articulate enough tone trying while still being massive and fuzzy. I now use 2 amps. 1 with super extra fuzz and lows and the other with a tight modern tone and blend the volumes. Each through a 2x12 (:
@KohleAudioKult3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I’m sure this sounds great live, but might introduce a lot of phase problems in the studio. At least if you just record one take.
@RobbieTayVaughan3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult thanks for your reply! My aby pedal has phase switching and ground lifts on each output to help with that stuff. Cheers! from Tacoma, WA
@machinerite91863 жыл бұрын
I think will putney uses a swollen pickle fuzz pedal sometimes. Isaac hale has one on his pedal board, and said will was the one who showed it to him.