Off course on 1w you won't have any headroom. That is the whole point of low vs high wattage amps. It's not volume. It's the ability to get high volumes without over saturating the power amp. Put it on 20w with 4x12 and it cleans up. Still gonna be a 6505 though.
@baadrqaaba95293 жыл бұрын
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@jd4262 жыл бұрын
Kyle Bull constantly complains about headroom on EL84 tubes. But like you said exactly it’s not meant for being band and concert volumes. EL 84 tubes attenuate better and sound better when knocked down to 5 or 1 watt. Not as muffled as full size tubes attenuated. Bedroom amps should be EL84. If someone wants a loud head by a 50 watt
@dharleyfan15 жыл бұрын
The whole point of having a 1 watt setting is to get earlier break up, and lower volumes. That's what it's SUPPOSED to do. If you want clean headroom at higher volumes, you need to use higher wattage settings.
@snflip3 жыл бұрын
Exactly !
@ll14m4n2 ай бұрын
+1. moreover, it's not clean, it is the Rhythm channel 😀If you want more headroom on this channel there is an easy mod - replace 12AX7 with a 12AY7
@realStefanLowe3 жыл бұрын
End of 2020, I can confirm these amps hate single coils. Great demo! Thanks.
@daletsosie24797 ай бұрын
Hello Chris, that was the best test & demo on the 6505mh that I've seen You covered the real sounds of what that amp was meant for .good playing too . Some others don't test the way the given amp was intended for , good job.
@mctwishvonnoodles97936 жыл бұрын
I finally found someone who uses the mid knob and doesn't "djent" on a 9-string. I've been looking for a small amp that I can get some classic thrash tones with (say, Rust in Piece by Megadeth or Ride the Lightning by Metallica) with lots of punch for gigs, but can still stay quiet since I live in an apartment (I mean, a tube amp with a headphone jack? HELL YES), all while staying affordable. I think this video has convinced me, thank you for this
@michaeldiamond766 жыл бұрын
McTwish von Noodles you will love it great little amp
@ericjlong29953 жыл бұрын
Very good amp for thrash tones but I suggest pairing this amp with a tube screamer in front to boost the signal going in because the bass needs a little tightening.
@UNSC-ow3bh10 ай бұрын
"Clean to be clean" ...Said no one EVER who own ANY Peavey 5150 or 6505 amp.😂 These amps are the equivalent of a NHRA dragster...They got ONE job only!!! LOL ...Great vid overall and amp sounds great! ....Perhaps trade it for the Classic 20 for great cleans!!! 😊
@dametalone7 жыл бұрын
Cool demo but some things I would like to note since ive had mine for over a year now: 1) You can get a pristine clean out of this. Its even better than the full sized 5150/6505. Roll back the gain a knob and lower the volume pot on your guitar slightly. (and one of my guitars is using the EMG JH set so this does work) 2) BOOST IT!!! I mainly play on the crunch channel with the gain at 7. I use a maxon OD808 or 808x ( i have both) with the gain at 0 and balance up 2/3 to all the way. And even with those settings, im getting great old school metal to thrash tones. I do the same thing on the lead channel except the gain is only at 3 and its brutal as fucking boosting it with an overdrive. It really tightens up the low end and gets it saturated nicely. Here is a video I made. It's not a great demo since im actually demonstrating a problem I am having but you can hear a bit of my setup none the less. If you want a better demo, let me know and I can shoot something tomorrow. Mind you, I am only using an iPhone camera kzbin.info/www/bejne/lX6ZYZeLYtt9r5I
@theacegio5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Haas Love your tone on your video can you give me your settings ? Thx a lot
@wyattgirouard81296 жыл бұрын
It's a metal amp
@aubincortacero26696 жыл бұрын
it's crazy that the sound stay really understandable with all of this gain ! love it
@brosephthomas37646 жыл бұрын
you shouldve got a valveking for the tone youre looking for because this is a metal amp
@kotymccallister51506 жыл бұрын
DKruNEye I know, he's got the gain backed off to like 3.5-4 lol.
@singingfedexmanjoshcampbel16146 жыл бұрын
The 5150 and 6505 have never had good clean sounds. You buy them for the Brown sound not pristine cleans
@milkandmeat4 жыл бұрын
@@cegant what did you end up getting?
@WalmartTom4 жыл бұрын
@@cegant I would like to buy an Mesa Mini Rectifier but mesa is so expensive in europe. It's like €1600 for the mini rectifier which is about $1750. So I go Engl
@Ottophil4 жыл бұрын
Singing FEDEX MAN i have a 6505+, i did nerd out and put low gain tubes in the slots that go to the clean channel, and use compression and reverb, but i get a killer clean from that amp
@phantumgrey7 жыл бұрын
Most people going into this purchase aren't expecting a great "Clean" but you can get clean. I like the 5w setting personally. Keep the Pre gain under 4 and then up the post gain. Don't be afraid to use those mids either. This is one of the better demos out there BTW
@tat2dphreak7 жыл бұрын
On one watt, turned up like that, you are getting power tube breakup too. I run mine on the 20w mode, with gain around 3 and the post-gain about 4, to get a clean. You can also change the v1 to a 12at7 to great really clean The crunch channel is a beast. I also recommend not scooping those mids, this amp sings with the mids around 6-7.. I've had my mh for a year or so, and play it all the time.
@ledheavy266 жыл бұрын
wayne fry Agreed, I have the mids on mine at the same. I barely boost the treble or bass on the eq and do most of my adjustments with the resonance and presence knobs. I personally find the 5 watt mode a lot better than the 1 watt mode, I usually record with 5w and about 6-7 on post gain for the rhythm. For cleans I like the pre-gain around 5 and I could split my humbuckers and roll back a tiny bit for good cleans that I can go to dirt easily. 20watt mode sounds the best overall, sounds deeper, but for recording (mostly what I use this amp for) I use the 5 watt mode to get some power tube distortion out of it.
@danieljwillen19936 жыл бұрын
Boo Radely is the higher the watt, the more headroom huh? Good to know! Seems like since I’m in a apartment I’ll be going DI into my interface on 20 watt mode
@michaelbell756 жыл бұрын
Mids suck. I keep mine at 9 o'clock with my SG which is already very mid focused.
@froag40036 жыл бұрын
Does get loud enough clean to play over a drummer?
@michaelbell756 жыл бұрын
Froag Not a chance and this is the wrong amp to buy for cleans anyways
@TwistedIdentity7 жыл бұрын
That's odd..my 6505 MH can get clean sounds just fine even on the 1 watt setting. One very easy way to do it though, turn it on 20 watts, turn up the post gain and start from 0 on the pregain and very slowly turn it up until it's a fitting volume. That helps alot. And can still be at a manageable volume. Also just messed around with my own with both single coils and humbuckers. Sounds especially fantastic on clean with single coils. Humbuckers is decent too and still clean.
@scamp8085 жыл бұрын
he had the crunch button pushed lol
@Qban2205 жыл бұрын
@@scamp808 he was using a foot switch
@FeelingShred9 ай бұрын
4:13 my guess is that when it starts to break up you can CUT some of the frequencies with the EQ dials or EQ pedal, which should leave you with the benefits of Gain (increased sustain) without the saturation
@FeelingShred9 ай бұрын
but yeah not sure why these Knobs start distorting at such low positions such as 3 or 4, should be more towards 6 or 7... it seems to be a common problem with circuit designs
@FeelingShred9 ай бұрын
it's either 8 or 80
@Tuborgmann706 жыл бұрын
Around 24:10 Tea from King Diamonds masterpiece Them, nice touch.
@peterdhess69137 ай бұрын
Awesome ! Thanks Want one
@TheJohnnyboy4454 жыл бұрын
This amp can actually do anything as long as you have a noise gate, an od, and a compressor. You're just using it wrong
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear4 жыл бұрын
Yes, most amps sound great with the addition of those pedals. However, I only demo the actual capability of the amp by itself.
@everybodylovesscout5 жыл бұрын
Boy, you sure are all over the place when it comes to your opinion of this amp. Heard you say at least three times already that you love the rock tones of this anp but then you go on in the comments to say you werent impressed at all with it and think the boss katana is superior. Lol. I think the katana blows
@idontgivea17693 жыл бұрын
He’s out of his mind! The Katana gets destroyed by other ss/digitals amps out there, and it’s better than a freaking 6505?! 😂
@autk2 жыл бұрын
Katana is a bedroom amp...crank it up with a rock band for n a bar and it goes to shit.
@peterdhess69137 ай бұрын
I like it ! Thanks .like your playing.like a George lynch sound .awesome Andy LaRocque ! 🤟I'm trying to get one cheap.killer amp Not a clean amp really
@royronnie25910 ай бұрын
Also, if you want to clean it up a little more... turn your guitar's volume down
@hamadxjm6 жыл бұрын
This is the best review ever made for this amp and I wish I watched this demo before I bought my 6505mh. The amp has so uncontrollable gain. Once you crank it up you lose control over the fizziness and zzzzzz sound. Its ok for its value consideting 20 watt power only however if time goes back, nah, pass of course. But thanks a lot for the video, i wish it was in a higher quality but its honest and I loved it. Big like.
@wyattgirouard81296 жыл бұрын
Hamad Al Mutawa it's a metal amp
@harvesteroftone54736 жыл бұрын
Great demo. One criticism would be your inability to get a workable clean tone. These amps have a surprisingly good clean up. Back of the rhythm channel gain and nudge the post a bit more. It works a treat. Roll off the guitar volume a bit for better results. Also back off the gain in general. Use a tube screamer for boost and it will give that chunky, meaty thrash metal tone while cleaning up the bottom end. This will reduce the farting. Keep up the great work. Subscribed
@Svensonguitar4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thishead is more than metal, you showed it! i used the minihead for giging and for recording, really like the build-in audio interface!
@Nobody924214 жыл бұрын
Dammmm.... I love that clean channel. It's like Soldano labels his amps. Crunch and overdrive. Really nice chops BTW. I'm def buying this amp. Thanks for the Demo!!!!! (BTW.. buy a Marshall DSL 15H if you want a Blackface Fender clean and a really dirty OD channel.)
@FeelingShred9 ай бұрын
these recordings with "room mic" like you did sound so much more lively than the other line out recordings that "professional" retailer channels use... there's something about AIR MOVING that sounds fascinating to me
@waynelewis87102 жыл бұрын
It's called a noise gate to quiet down that amplifier
@joevanvai4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent thorough review thank you!
@SheepWaveMeByeBye4 жыл бұрын
I really like your playing.
@donnareedfan4 жыл бұрын
How’s the clean channel? 😎
@bootlegb94736 жыл бұрын
Yeah 6505 for cleans... umm
@josequirindongo94258 ай бұрын
Hello, can you please tell me which brand of speaker cable are you using? Great review, thank you!
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear8 ай бұрын
Not sure tbh... Might be a "Hosa"... but I cant remember.
@tman64956 жыл бұрын
your pickups on this guitar maybe be a bit hotter than you thought..so clean maybe a challenge on this amp, clean channel
@memedaily86903 жыл бұрын
lol the first time u show the amp is perfect settings for me lol
@1974zah4 жыл бұрын
The 5150/6505 never had a good clean channel. That came with the 5150 II/6505+ versions. If you look at the schematic, it's essentially just a one channel amp. The clean/crunch setting just knock out some gain stages. People back then mainly bought the amps for the gain sounds. Still do. Many guys back in the day, myself included, actually preferred the crunch setting for most stuff. Nice playing BTW.
@ESPE2M13 жыл бұрын
Clean channel=something I never use or need.
@rhwaddell5 жыл бұрын
sounds good to me even through a camera microphone! Nice playing, it would be interesting to see if you still get the "dirty clean" with passive pickups. Glad I bought one! Thanks.
@97warlock3 жыл бұрын
Cut the gain to 2.5 & roll guitar volume back till it cleans up.
@voltaspeeder175 жыл бұрын
that clean actually sounded pretty damn decent to me. Yeah, it's no fender twin or anything, but it's playable. It's a metal amp, it's expected to deliver lots of gainy madness, not made for superb clean anyway.
@Qban2205 жыл бұрын
Back of the gain when you go high on volume. It takes pedals very well on crunch channel, boost it and you'll be blown away. Changing those Chinese tubes is mandatory. Amp will go clean, but make sure you're on 20W mode and not using very high output humbackers. Maxout rhythm post volume, and use pre-gain rhythm as volume. Nice playing and demo.
@zac3126 Жыл бұрын
Lmao, changing the tubes is preference, not necessary. Been doing live sound for a decade now, you can get almost any sound you want out of anything if you know what you're doing.
@piotr.soton885 жыл бұрын
Ive got Classic 20mh for very clean sound. Lovely playing btw!
@INeverWanted20106 жыл бұрын
I think the clean channel not being very "clean" has something to do with the way the amp is biased. My 6505+ 112 has a similar characteristic
@williamscolaro11596 жыл бұрын
INeverWanted2010 you can get clean sounds from this amp just fine, the reviewer just has the pregain too high. It only needs to be at 1 and preferably on the higher wattage settings to ensure more head room.
@Tweedlydeedly5 жыл бұрын
That JP definitely has some hot pups in it. Otherwise, great playing! Nice review!
@lucyferina6 жыл бұрын
Lots of factors affect the clean channel, you could have it on the lowest setting on the back which won't push the speakers and will break easier, but will sound worse because it was not pushing the speaker, also how much gain vs main volume etc, active vs passive pickups, how hard you are strumming, how big your speakers are....if you want perfect cleans this is NOT the amp for that, it can give you very usable cleans but not what you might be looking for.
@joathescientist5 жыл бұрын
Great review !!! you spotted the problem of this amp. DOES NOT HAVE GOOD CLEAN CHANNEL. I bought it and I had the same problem.
@pataka815 жыл бұрын
How is it's distortion sound compare to PRS MT15?
@MrBLawson856 жыл бұрын
this was a really good demo. did you do one exclusively with a strat??
@L.A.W.Studios4 жыл бұрын
With such a high gain amp, and only 2 (not 3) channels, in order to get clean, you should have the pre-gain around half of what you have it (yes, like 2) ,have it on the 20 watt setting with post gain around 9, and the bright switch engaged...jus' sayin'
@nebtrebeh55883 жыл бұрын
It states right on the amp rhythm and lead, not clean/lead.
@SteveStoneMetal Жыл бұрын
Can you explain to me what footswitch you used, and what the buttons actually do for this amp? Thanks so much.
@aris91255 жыл бұрын
Just use your guitar volume dynamics to get it cleaner.
@allenwebster63292 жыл бұрын
Well for starter you're complaining about it being clean ,its a peavey 6505 probably most people that purchase these like me dont purchase these amps for a clean sound I bought one for the sound of the overdrive in the first place other things I play are van halen type stuff,this amp wasnt made for the country guy playing old hank Williams stuff it's meant for Rock stuff ,anyway I own one and i like every channel but then again knew what to expect when i bought it maybe if a person invest money in one if these heads they should perhaps know that this is not a clean sweetie amp
@JasonGrantProject6 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you Chris!!
@NomadRonin6 жыл бұрын
I use almost the exact same settings on my 6505 MH. I will vary my gain between 4-6 and my low from 5-6.
@danieljwillen19935 жыл бұрын
Did you turn the volume back giving less signal into the amp? That typically helps with cleans
@jaychen2000metal5 жыл бұрын
I am actually considering putting lower power tubes in mine for a less break-up clean
@qua77713 жыл бұрын
A 5751 tube in v2 should take it.
@odyssey21thcentury316 жыл бұрын
low gain AlNiCo pickups should allow you a cleaner sound. This amp seem to break up very easily, looks to me that it has been designed to be a super voracious half stack.
@MarcAndreLevesque4 жыл бұрын
It's called Rythm, not Clean, if you expect clean from a Peavey 6505, I think you forgot to do some research man, you don't get a metal amp for cleans!!! :) A Marshall will get clean...ish, a Peavey will get even less clean...ish, always been the case since the Plexi and 5150.
@SirNick875 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, nice video. I have Boss Katana head for bedroom playing, I'm thinking about getting 6505MH, I saw your Katana video - is it worth to upgrade in your opinion?
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear5 жыл бұрын
Imo, the Katana is way better than the 6505mh. I was not at all impressed with the Peavey.
@SirNick875 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear Thanks! :-)
@SirNick873 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear you were right, I bought the 6505MH, great amp in my opinion, but after few weeks I turned back to Katana 🙂
@snooze00236 жыл бұрын
Im tossing up whether to get this or the peavey classic 20 head. I cant decide i want both in one amp.
@MrBLawson856 жыл бұрын
WHAT DID YOU GET
@neonether6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Isn't that EJ pick just a standard Jazz III?
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear6 жыл бұрын
archosuserrx Probably? But, his name on it creates a perfect gripping surface that makes me like it more than the standard.
@These_go_to_eleven_19593 жыл бұрын
I am really considering getting one of these. Do you still use one? I cannot find anything for my needs at $500 that can beat this amp. the closest of the EVH LBX but that is $200 more and you lose features.
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear3 жыл бұрын
I did not keep this amp. For the money, I personally don't think there's anything better than the Boss Katana.
@These_go_to_eleven_19597 жыл бұрын
I was originally going to just get a Boss Katana for $329 with a 1x12" but to be honest i think this head with some pedals and a 1x12" cab would sound infinitely better even though it would cost more overall.
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear7 жыл бұрын
Guitarz 5150 Everyone has their own tastes. I will say though that, for me, the katana eats this head. And, no tubes to maintain. Best of luck with whichever you go with. 😊😊
@These_go_to_eleven_19597 жыл бұрын
The Katana is Really that good? I will have to really do a side by side sound test at the store. The katana would be less money i would have to spend so i hope you are right. :)
@ledheavy266 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy the same Katana with the foot switch, which would've been around $440 ish. I then found a 6505mh with an orange ppc112 (vintage 30) for $600. I'm really happy with my decision, the amp has delivered everything I want and without the option paralysis I was worried about with the Katana. Clean, crunch, face melting gain, and I like to throw a big muff in and it's a beast.
@michaeldiamond766 жыл бұрын
IDK man... I have both and you would have to pry the 6505 mh from my dead hands
@97warlock3 жыл бұрын
had the Boss Katana 100 1x12 .... Didnt like that the knobs wpould sometimes change,especially in the gain section. and the boost section, I could turn it down then back up & have a differnt tone. Minor issue but didnt like that.
@AllenPinchloaf7 жыл бұрын
Thank you I think you talked me out of buying it one. Lacking clean channel
@robbiepenninger41115 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to like mine...wound up getting rid of it.
@AllenPinchloaf7 жыл бұрын
How does it sound taking the low impedence output into a pa for live or board for direct recording ?
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear7 жыл бұрын
I never tried. I sent it back and bough a Yamaha THR100 dual. I kept the yamaha. :)
@artvizi6 жыл бұрын
I see the noise from the amp at the end of the video. Is it normal behavior of peavey amp?
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear6 жыл бұрын
Well, it was turned up pretty loud and I was sitting 2 feet away from the speaker. If I were distanced from the speaker cabinet, it would not get the feedback squeak as much.
@Guitar_daddy20166 жыл бұрын
does this have a midi for a line 6 pod hd500x
@cody1818186 жыл бұрын
thoes red lights mean you have bad tubes or your bias is off
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear6 жыл бұрын
Really? This amp was brand spanking new when I made the video. Maybe that was why I didn't care for it and sent it back... oh well... :/
@ryanpress42195 жыл бұрын
his lights are green throughout the whole video, when he puts it to standby that's when it shuts off the signal to the tubes and the color goes red but the second he put it back from stand by they're green lol
@racerx83356 жыл бұрын
also ..you change tubes. its got stock tubes. mod it.....
@mattduffy84023 жыл бұрын
Can you play this amp at bedroom volume.
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear3 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@racerx83356 жыл бұрын
This amp was made hard rock n heavy metal......
@sticksnstones235 жыл бұрын
The clean doesn’t dial into a useable clean. And it is dull sounding. The crunch is decent but it lacks definition. It’s a big wall of crunch mush. The lead channel is not articulate. Too fizzy. Too much extra noise. The amp comes very close to being a winner. Especially for the price. But fussy ears will be frustrated that it can only get close.
@Qban2205 жыл бұрын
Change those garbage Chinese tubes for some quality ones, use some boost or Eq in front to tight things up and this amp is a killer platform for the money.
@mang31397 жыл бұрын
Great playing bro. So....are you keeping it?
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear7 жыл бұрын
Nope. Already gone.
@mang31397 жыл бұрын
No kidding? That "bad" huh? You have skills so I value your opinion as I am looking to upgrade from my Bugera G5. What did you end up getting or haven't you replaced it yet? Thanks man.
@ChrisTompkins-Music-And-Gear7 жыл бұрын
It's actually not "Bad", just not what I want in an amp. I replaced it with the Yamaha THR100 which is pretty sick. But, Nothing beats my Boss Katana 100 watt head. Hands down my favorite amp ever.
@mang31397 жыл бұрын
Chris Tompkins Really?! A dude with mad skills prefers digital over tube?!!! Wow uv given much to think about. I haven't tried a Katana yet. Do you find any guitar sounds good thru it. Single Coli and/or humbuckers?
@mang31397 жыл бұрын
Chris Tompkins and different genres? I've watched videos on Boss multi effects pedals and high gain seems to be a weak point like on the me80 or gt1.
@Hellseeker15 жыл бұрын
There is no clean lol \m/
@robertciaschini76255 жыл бұрын
Single coils are a no no.
@TheBnslayer5 жыл бұрын
This amp dont have clean!!!! Hi gain so much!!!
@markolivares69434 жыл бұрын
TheBnslayer you put it on the crunch channel and dial back the gain.