Peavey 6505 MH vs Invective MH! Which One Is More BRUTAL??

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[@ollyveit6031]

I bought the 6505 a couple weeks ago and I just wanted to share this I played a Show Yesterday at a skate contest and the Backline consisted of just 1 Speaker Cabinet which we didn't know (we are 2 Guitarists in my band) and we were panicking a little bit and thought that we could cancel our show. BUT the engineer there saw my 6505 MH and told me that i could go directly into the front of house. At first i was worried about it not sounding good but when i plugged in and he turned me up i was just blown away, the sound was fantastic considering the fact that it was running through the MDSI Input. So If you are worried about the MDSI Input being terrible i can tell you it is not and you can definitely use it.

[@machine-madedog5059]

After trying one in person, the Invective seemed more suited to low-tuned and extended range guitars with its gain voicing. Played a baritone through it and it worked very well. A D tuned six-string sounded too twangy. The mini 6505 on the other hand sounds good no matter what guitar you run through it..

[@cjjams7930]

Six string in drop c it sounds amazing with some 11-56 d'addario nyxl oh yeah 👍

[@trunks828]

Nothing beats the 5150 sound. They sound alike. I’d take either.

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Jon, you're the king of these comparisons. Never disappoint. Give me the 6505 mh everytime

[@m.ochminski]

Clean winner - Invective Crunch winner - 6505 Lead - 6505

[@kinglord5163]

True

[@orionwarren4244]

I'm running Creative speaks and subs through my PC so when I hear the amps in the 'mix' , the clear winner is the Invective but that's just my opinion!

[@l8tapex]

Why i bought it... the clean.

[@derek_d]

Just picked up an Invective MH on a trade this week and honestly didn't think I'd be super into it but it sounds beastly. It's almost like a cross between a 5150 and an EVH. It's still got that huge and mean lower midrange but with the sparkle and clarity of the EVH amps. I haven't played the 120 but if it's anywhere close to the MH it's gotta be badass.

[@GuitarDiddlerJP15]

I've owned one since it came out and I love it, the thing sounds nasty! Going to get some bare knuckle jugs soon and see how it sounds with them!

[@alvarg]

@@GuitarDiddlerJP15 very djenty :)

[@russmckenna5430]

By this comparison, I like the Invective MH over the 6505 MH, especially for studio recording. It has a much clearer sound across all the frequencies and this would lend itself to varying the EQ section for more choices.

[@marcreno893]

They both sound awesome. I have the 6505 mh and have no complaints. I play metal and punk and only even use the rhythm channel. And your songs are killer. Love your guitar style

[@krisrhebergen]

This is a hard choice for sure. Personally I think the boost switch on the invective is a little bit limited and I would almost prefer the throw a boost or od pedal in front of the 6505 mh which I already have plenty of to choose from.

[@Kevn1215]

6505 sounds killer but for my sound I think an invective fits me better. It seems individual notes are more pronounced and have the bouncy djenty sound which I love. Seems like 6505 is a jack of all trades and invective is a master of modern metal.

[@mattanthony5267]

They're both great but in all honesty having a 6505 MH makes me feel like I made the better purchase, just because of the rawness and overall feel that the 6505 has over the invective. I might be in the minority here, but I just like how it sounds more tube-like to my ears and less artificial if that makes sense. Having all of the features on the invective like the noise gate and the built-in boosts are great, particularly the gate, because I have so many boost pedals that it doesn't really matter if an amp has a built-in boost cuz I'm going to want to boost the amp anyway. They sounded similar on both of the lead channels but on the rhythm channels when you took it to a rock sound there was the biggest noticeable difference. Both good but yeah I just prefer that thickness and aggression of the 6505.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

I would love a 50 watt mid-size version of the Invective with the midi features of the 100 but smaller footprint. Something similar to the EVH 50 watt amps.

[@mattanthony5267]

@@neighbourhoodmusician yea man I think people would love that. People seem to be gravitating more and more toward 50 watters these days. Most of my amps are either minis or big boys. I don't really have anything in between but I'd like to grab a hot rodded marshall type amp in a 50 watt config.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

@@mattanthony5267 I want the extra headroom and features of a 6L6 or EL34 amp but a full size head is just such a pain in the arse to transport around. The half-size 50 waters are just right to put in the car for rehearsals etc.

[@mattanthony5267]

@@neighbourhoodmusician good point! I have 4 big 100+ watters and they'd be overkill at a gig. Definitely gonna scoop a 50 watt at some point. Check out ceriatone if you're into hot rodded marshall tones. They make some good shit. I have almost all peaveys and I love what they do for death metal and the modern metal sound but now I'm getting more into classic high gain sounds. I love my Peaveys. Best amps for the money hands down. They hold their own with ANY of the bigger more expensive amps but in my opinion nothing beats the hot rodded marshall sound. At least for old school metal and thrash.

[@guitardave]

I’ve got a 50w EVH 5150III el34 combo and honestly for this type of amp, it covers all bases, plus has built in reverb and power scaling which the heads don’t.

[@misticformula1485]

I've played the 6505 MH through a 1x12 cab. Cleans and Rock sounds were exactly the same as demoed here but Metal sounds through the cab were a lot better than in this demo. I still enjoyed this comparison though. Rock on!

[@TJK_Audio]

Great comparison! Some notes as I listen - the Invective clean is very nice, I like it more than the 6505, but people are not really getting these for the cleans. The mid-gain on the Invective is much more high-mid forward - not as nice sounding in isolation but cuts better through the mix. The highs are a bit harsher (especially seeing the high turned down like it was, but that really only becomes a problem further up the neck. High gain is (as expected) similarly more high-mid focused on the Invective, but it cuts through the mix much better - it applies the kind of EQ I would probably put on the 6505 to ease some congestion in the midrange. The Invective seems a bit more nasally in the mids, but that works better in the mix and can be easily tamed (along with the highs) to taste with an EQ. Overall, they're both pretty good but I'd get the invective over the 6505.

[@bobwalters9151]

I gotta say, the 6505 sounds more wide-open and less scooped! I have to go with the 6505 in this comparison!

[@KenCostantino]

I just ordered a Peavey 6505 MH after watching this review. I had been considering the EVH 5150 LBX-S. But I like the 6505 features better. It's also a great sounding amp. So hopefully I made the right choice.

[@charlesdicristofano3678]

great demo thank you! both sound great, I like the Invective.

[@needsLITHIUM]

I would love to see quad tracked guitars where each guitar has one take on each amp, specifically for the rock tone segment. I think the two amps would complement nicely, and if the gain was pushed just a TINY bit more from what you had here, or maybe if you engaged the boost switch on the Invective and then did nothing more, the quad tracking would thicken things up enough for high gain metal tones and it would sound awesome.

[@ayeapprove]

Well done, these are killer amps. I still love my 6505MH and I don't regret getting it over the later Invective model.

[@fasteddievh2072]

I’ve been waiting for this comparison for a long time. I appreciate it. Thanks for all you do!🙏👍🤘

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Cheers mate!

[@asizeablebear]

Man, I've been WAITING for this exact demo. I'm an owner of a 6505mh and have been wondering if the invective mh might serve my taste more. The clear differences that you show in this are pushing me even further to switching to the invective! The riff in the high-gain riff portion is WICKED btw.

[@SocksworthRiffs]

you should buy one bear uwu

[@marcreno893]

And after you you finally make the switch you’ll find another one you need to have

[@carlj9831]

Maaan I’ve never headbanged this hard to an amp demo before, that high gain track was killer!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@FISHYFILMPRODUCTIONS]

Tone comparisions like this speak more the IRs used than anything. The same IR was used so you could get an AB, but holy shit that IR is amazing

[@hisroyalsucculence]

Glad I got the Invective, especially since the clean channel can actually have a clean tone. Great video!

[@voldemartrofimov4508]

Very professional and fair comments in this video . Owesome job . Appreciate you dude .

[@77523]

Your riffs are so good. You make all amps sound great.......Great Job.

[@rolojared]

Those riffs are insane. Keep doing it!

[@johnmeeks9308]

the best demo i have ever seen great job!!!

[@buckycore]

6505. All the way. Even for the cleans. As far as pristine cleans, I find just using a amp VST is a fine way to go for recording

[@vincephil7814]

Invective has more bite and top end aggression but the MH has more of a growl in the low mids. Both are great.

[@yuggothproductions]

Nice ! You played some interesting chords in the high gain section. I appreciate that! Invective for me, seems tighter, but it depends on the application of course. Both sound killer!

[@sheriff7172]

I'm assuming most of us have tube screamers any way so I would have loved to hear the 6505 boosted for fair comparison as that's a usual solution for the muddy lows

[@SM57]

I personally prefer 6505. Both are great👍

[@DenBoogieden]

This channel gives the best reviews

[@TVoltG]

I have two 6505 MH's, I got a deal. Great little amp. Some people feel the lead channel is not too versatile with the gain, that it's just way too much gain. I use a Timmy pedal to actually drop the gain down a little and it makes it more fun. Switch it off for the high gain.. Been wanting the Invective MH. Getting a cup of coffee and sitting down for this video. Thanks Jon.

[@InvadeR150]

Thank you for your videos! Best comparisons on youtube! After this video i bought 6505 mh

[@philippechassang9703]

I prefer the volume tone of the 605mh on clean and crunch, the invective is to dry for me. In Lead, I prefer the invective 'cause is more "direct in your face!!" Thanks so much. I love your channel !

[@TheAmirShimon]

Thank you, I've been waiting for this one.

[@yuletide]

The fact that the 6505 sounds as good or better for $200 less is amazing.

[@anthonytumia]

The Invective has much better cleans but I think you can get the same gain tones out of both with some tweaking.

[@disco4535]

I prefer the cleaner stuff on the Invective, but prefer the 6505 on the high gain parts.

[@CraigCrider]

Agreed.

[@vladdracul6470]

right on...

[@danrozz1]

I like the Invective, is more aggressive, Great playing man.

[@matthewperkins989]

Great video demonstration my man. I literally just bought my 6505mh lastnight. It should be here in 2 days. I'm a bass player but wanted to jam with my guitar as well. Thought the 6505 would be great for recordings. I'm a drummer as well but right now don't have the room for a kit, but that's ok as I bought a beat buddy for my drums and a Boss RC1 looper so I can sit and write songs and jam by myself. Thanks for the video. Jam on! 🤘😎

[@ITigerbaum]

Good job! I recently acquired a 6505mh and love it. Big gain on the lead, nice bright cleans easy to push. Humbuckers so far. In your test the very top-end of the MH is a little more sparkly. To my ear. I am learning about which amps use which tubes, and these have the similar capabilities as say the AC 30. I made myself a master list of my amps, with notes, tubes, and serial numbers. I'm up to 14 lol, and I've been lusting over a Morgan for one. Thanks for the video!

[@VicktoRUrosAndrijasevic]

I would like to know have you ever shared a thing or two about figurine collection of yours? 😆 All kiddin' aside, great video, structured, to the point, covers every important aspect, all in all - very useful! Thank you very much for making this comparison videos!

[@OneInTheQuiver]

I really love these videos!!! Super helpful! I was about to buy the Revv G20 until I came across this video, which drove me toward the invective mh!!!

[@TwistedIdentity]

I decided to spend the extra money and bought the Invective MH because I knew my curiosity would drive me nuts if I didn't. No regrets, I absolutely love this amp. I also had a 6505 MH a few years ago. You really can't go wrong with either one. The difference is like splitting hairs but money being no object, I prefer the Invective. If you want to take some of that high end fizz out and sound closer to the 6505, just back off the presence knob. Problem solved.

[@brandonvealey4960]

I’m wanting to get them both because I have the big brothers to both of the mini heads lol. I’ll start with the mini Invective and then hopefully I can get the 6505 mini head next at some point collect them all lol. Great video man! I enjoy the riffs and everything 🤘

[@darklight4815]

i loved the cleans on the Invective,and the dirty on the Invective is quite pleasing as well,they say it's voiced after the 6505....such a tough choice

[@ArmanGrim]

magnificent Comparison man, another amazing Vlog as always, thanks a lot, I have 6505 MH and so satisfied with it , cheers man 🤘🏻🍻❤

[@linadecaseleycarloss5838]

The 6505 seems to be a slightly more classic sound & the Invective a touch more modern. Both superb, just depends on your taste. Excellent video.

[@timeshock1255]

Amazing video again and spot on, as always. Keep rocking, friend.

[@SimonSawal]

This is the one i needed to hear. Ik denk dat beide amps zeer goed zijn en dat het echt een kwestie is van smaak. I'ts a matter of taste in this one. Both Excellent amps!

[@milkandmeat]

The Invective sounded like it had more treble but also had a wet blanket over it at the same time.

[@spookyverb]

Great vid. I prefer the Invective for my needs, returned my 6505 and swapped. Much happier. 🤘

[@maripido]

Killer, killer riffs man! Good job!

[@silenceismycanvas]

I was about to buy the 6505mh a few yrs back, but got the invective mh instead. Both are great but I am glad I got the invective. The clean channel is way better.

[@okeefy]

I like the 6505 for it's versatility. Also, it sounds closer to the Bogner Uber i use in the studio. The Invective sounds a tad more "sterile" in a Mesa Dual Rec sorta way. Both are amazing. But for my $, the 6505MH takes it (I bought 2 used for less than 1 Invective MH).

[@elvis_chen]

Awesome riffs! You guys should make an episode for the riff tutorials!

[@Qaaqqutsiannguaq]

They both sounds very good and similar 6505 mini wins for the price

[@na7h4n34]

I loved the clean channel on the invective, for mid and high gain it’s a tossup for me

[@seanhorodyski1517]

Awesome playing

[@westcoastbrotha]

Man I wish there was a way you could tab what you play in some of these videos. I spend as much time trying to figure out what you’re playing as I do what I’m hearing.

[@jameslatham2655]

On the clean that you started off with the 6505 MH is a little warmer and a tad bit fuller sounding than the Invective, but I like both. I'd pick the 6505 MH for the clean if I just had to choose. On your run with the overdrive I can not choose. I like both alot! Can't choose on that one. With the lead comparison I'll have both for the win. I think the invective has a little bit brighter top end sound to it than the MH. I still lean toward the MH but really don't know why. In a band with 2 guitarist one player using the invective and the other player using the MH sound similar then and would be soundtastic!!!

[@markolivares6943]

They both sound awesome and for my taste I chose the 6505.

[@SonicDriveStudio]

So, which one do you like best?? The Invective MH or 6505 MH? Which one would you buy? Let me know!

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

Invective MH. I'm biased because I own it.

[@keolahutchinson7687]

I prefer the clarity of the invective personally.

[@victorreee7012]

Invective is way more noisy, and something honking and pooping in the mids. Everything Misha touches, sucks.

[@ayeapprove]

6505MH because it has this mid punch while the Invective is the more scooped one in my ears.

[@СергейМогутов-ъ4д]

Lower gain tones 6505 and high gain Invective IMO. It'll be a tough decision though.

[@biebiekei3798]

Both sounds great, whichever you buy you'll be good.

[@IamVengeanceMT07]

those riffs !!!! amazing , i have the invective trough a engl 2x12 cab in red

[@MackTheKnifeSlowly]

The Invective cuts the mix better and has a real clear snap to the 6505's mush. It sounds closer to an EVH, clearer and defined. 6505 is all-around easier to listen to and less harsh, great for roaring slop. Would depend on genre/style - both sound great.

[@kellyjackson7889]

The Invective sounds voiced like the 5150II/6505+ that have higher mids .The boost exacerbates those frequencies. Just give the 6505 a TS or boost pedal, no more mush but still thicc.

[@MackTheKnifeSlowly]

@@kellyjackson7889 I've got a treble booster (EQD Bows), might work better? Idk these lunchbox heads worry me. I got the ValveKing MH when it first came out and the FX loop broke ruining the WHOLE board. They seem disposable.

[@kellyjackson7889]

@@MackTheKnifeSlowly Right they aren't probably as reliable as their big brothers however the whole VK series is def on the cheaper side altogether, even among the LBH's. EQD's products are awesome but as much as I like Germanium TB's the grit works better on medium gain amps. If you dont like T/S or Maxon 808's try a Dunlop Q-Zone. Crank the 'Q' knob all the way to the left (for max fidelity) and turn the freq knob right somewhere between 8-10 (balance the 5150mh treb and pres accordingly)

[@MackTheKnifeSlowly]

@@kellyjackson7889 Ty for the tips .. solid advice! I do like TS's (sound great obv) was just thinking a TB would boost the target freqs and give it the upper mid snap. Just spit-ballin, I don't own a 6505.

[@kevinmatthews9469]

You can't beat the depth of that chug on the 6505 MH.

[@caseyjones3522]

finally some decent tracks to listen to in a demo. nice work. imho they sound too similar to pick one.

[@Nitrav.]

Great comparison video again👍.

[@chrisb9745]

Invective with the gate and boost, as well as a good clean channel for pedals

[@alexandrebozier4703]

Put a midgain preamp tube (5751) in V1 position on the 6505MH and it will really shine, more headroom for the clean and crunch channel, and less fizzy over-compressed lead channel, with more gain range.

[@che2335]

Both in a stereo rig is the compromise lol

[@jimparsons-yy1ot]

Great comparison

[@ollevanderweide9522]

Zieke riffs weer:) I liked the clean sound of the invective the most. It reminded me of the engl fireball 25 for some reason...

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Dankje! The ENGLs have nice cleans!

[@TheToneArchive]

Clean Tone - Invective 100% Crunch - Also Invective, but barely Lead - 6505, by a hair I have the Invective MH and the full size 6505+ myself

[@deepghetto8968]

Invective is too clean and defined on the high gain. It doesn't have that snarl or grit on the low end that the 6505 has. Especially on palm muting. Perhaps a little playing with the EQ on the invective could get it there.

[@borhksalduero9259]

I definitely like more the invective, the cleans you get from it are pristine and the gain is more brutal to me…. Good one buddy!!!

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Thanks mate! I think I agree

[@canyon9127]

Can we get invective vs a EVH 5150 ??

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Could be cool! :)

[@MackTheKnifeSlowly]

Yesss

[@MineralVW]

@@SonicDriveStudio Yes Sir!

[@cjjams7930]

I'm taking invective man periphery is as heavy as it gets bro haha I love them and the fact this is their amp just makes sense

[@cjjams7930]

The invective just sounds so fkn sick bro 😂😆 it's crazy Misha murdered it but what can you expect

[@ScttSt_vocals]

For cleans - definitely the invective!

[@remuslycan6473]

I have a 6505mh it's a great amp The invective is a bit more expensive Even used it's arround 700 bucks.. My MH cost ne arround 370 bucks And for that price i think it's really awesome and rare to find. I agree the invective Sounds a lot colder And in my opinion the 6505 Sounds cold aswell But it's really, really Tight and versitele

[@dallin_saber_stories]

Great video. Been waiting on this comparison for a while. Can you do a comparison between the invective mini and the new archon 50? Maybe even the PRS MT15 too.

[@fadjar_rama]

high freq harmonics are more pronounce on Invective. That's why Invective have more clarity. Maybe, adding maximizer in 6505 MH's fx loop will make 6505 MH close to Invective

[@kellyjackson7889]

Nah just a TS or any boost with a tone control.

[@DankenNordstrom]

Fantastic video! I would love to see if you could get a Laney IRT SLS (300w hybrid amp) on the channel and do a comparison between the SLS , the Ironheart Studio 15W and the Ironheart 60W head

[@Yoguy1107]

Joel McHale really knows his metal tone

[@wallbreakers5062]

I like the 6505 for everything. The invective is too tight for my taste and not as 3D. Almost like it’s a hybrid solid state or something.

[@MetalBaller83]

I like the 6505 MH tones better; both clean and dirty. I guess it’s a good thing that’s the one I have lol. Don’t get me wrong, the Invective still sounds awesome! Had I bought that one, I wouldn’t have been disappointed.

[@Grim_owl]

Thank you for incredible demo! For me - invective is absolute winner

[@JC-fj7oo]

I thought I was hearing a difference, but then I closed my eyes and the amp stopped changing... The only thing I really noticed is that the "boost" has the opposite effect of using a tubescreamer and actually makes it more fuzzy and less chunky. So I would buy which ever one is cheaper and use a tubescreamer. Any difference in tone was miniscule and would never be noticed by an audience.

[@jeancaspar5365]

Great comparative video! Good job. Quick question: how do the silent mode cab sims compare? Are they any good? Thanks!

[@NefariousDreary]

Oh man. They both have their advantages.

[@gabewilliams7462]

Hey man, love the video as always. Think you might be able to get your hands on a Bogner Atma? They’re pretty pricey, but I’ve had one for a few months now and I’d say it’s definitely worth it. Crazy versatile amp. I recommend checking out Johan Segeborn’s review. It sounds great for metal, has amazing light overdrive, and the cleans can go from Fender to Vox with the turn of a knob. I genuinely think this amp is one of the best lunchbox heads out there.

[@oldguyjammin9732]

Having owned both, I’d have to give the nod to the Invective, less sizzle and great features. I can’t hear any difference in the clean or crunch or lead in this video.

[@starblaster77]

Both sound great!

[@graemedixon6314]

I used to own the 6505mh, I regret selling it.

[@fenixtech1342]

Awesome shootout, both of these absolutely rip!

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Cheers!

[@joeymiller2633]

those two together, my new wet dry bedroom rig, i think it would work out awesome. only question is, which one for wet ?????

[@perpetualgrimace]

That last riff rules