Korean Conversation with John | 이렇게 귀하신 분이 ③

Today, I had a conversation about Korean language learning with my KZbinr friend John. John runs a KZbin channel called 'John's Language Acquisition Method,' where he creates videos offering tips to people who want to speak foreign languages like native speakers. Last year, I stumbled upon one of John's KZbin videos and found the language learning method I had been looking for, which I thought was revolutionary. We quickly became friends through a comment I left.
In this podcast, John shared a lot of valuable information, which I think can provide a new perspective for those learning Korean. 'How should I study Korean? I want to speak Korean like a native! My Korean skills aren't improving...🤔' If you're having these thoughts, I believe this will be very helpful for you. 화이팅 in your Korean studies! ❤️‍🔥
0:00 Intro
0:47 Guest Introduction
1:30 Languages John is learning
3:20 Why he started learning foreign languages/Korean
7:17 Methods he used to study Korean
14:45 The importance of visualization
19:49 Isn't it taking too long? - ⭐️How to Speak Korean Like a Korean⭐️
35:05 If you could go back to when you first started learning Korean - Watching and listening
42:50 It looks boring!
46:50 Is Korean difficult for native English speakers to learn? - Korean grammar
53:59 You speak this well in English, too, right?
55:35 Fun episode - The Jajangmyeon incident
1:01:00 What do you think about 'Didi's Korean Podcast'?
1:09:07 Thanks, John!
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[@john0518]

디디의 한국어 팟캐스트 구독자 여러분, 안녕하세요! 존쌤입니다 😆 디디님 덕분에 이 에피소드를 찍는 게 정말 편하고 재밌었는데 디디님이 팟캐를 엄청 잘 만들지 않아요? 재밌게 봐주시길 바랍니다!!! 🥳 .. 그리고 나중에 저를 다시 불러주세요 😅ㅋㅋ

[@didikoreanpodcast]

언제든 또 와주세요 존쌤~~~~🔥

[@john0518]

@@didikoreanpodcast 🥹 네!!!!

[@aaitalimbu6243]

안녕하세요, 조헌씨 전 니항 입니다 저는 네팔 사람이예요🇳🇵만히 사랑해요

[@user-xf1cn1ro2g]

👍👍👍

[@gogirri]

존쌤 유읽남때랑 텐션이 다르잖아!! 입이 귀에 걸렸네!!

[@yma_sarah]

Wow! John talks a lot in Korean and I really envy that because when I speak Korean I suddenly became quiet person. It was very inspiring!

[@john0518]

I talk TOO much hehe

[@shimshondanziger8778]

Wow I’m officially really jealous of Johnㅋㅋㅋ John님은 정말 많은 질문에 대답해주셔서 제 동기를 되찾게 해주셨어요! 정말 감사합니다! Oh and that 짜장면 story killed me 😂 그리고 평소처럼 훌륭한 팟캐스트를 준비하시는데 시간과 노력을 들여주신 Didi님께 특별히 감사드립니다!

[@didikoreanpodcast]

고마워요! 한국어 듣기연습도 고생했어요 ☺️ 앞으로의 한국어 여정도 응원합니당 💪💪💪💪💪💪🌿

[@shimshondanziger8778]

@@didikoreanpodcast 감사합니다 ☺️

[@thaothan5193]

우와 저도 언젠가 john님처럼 한국인스러운 한국말을 할 수 있었으면 좋겠어요! 저렇게 많은 시간을 투자하셔서 배우신 게 정말로 존경스럽습니다!? 오늘 팟캐스트 너무 재미있었고 도움이 많이 돼었습니다!! 디디님, john님을 자주 초대해주세요!!! 두 분 수고하셨습니다❤

[@didikoreanpodcast]

화이팅❤️‍🔥

[@shahnozamoydinova7994]

네 마자여

[@turkal9670]

I just started learning Korean few months ago and I am so happy to find this podcast at this stage of my journey. This video is amazinggg!! very informative and relatable. Thank you 존쌤 and 디디님 for this episode. "there are no shortcuts, put the time". LOVE FROM KUWAIT❤.

[@didikoreanpodcast]

고맙습니다 🥹🇰🇼🤍

[@kingringsamir]

This is so helpful video for me😊😊😊😊😊

[@prestoiidx]

Ohh thank you for having the subtitles have both 한글 and english! And english translations for the long episode must have took longer so thank you for them! 감사합니다!🙏

[@didikoreanpodcast]

Hehe thanks for noticing about it ☺️ I wanted to share these information over the world so it was worthy!! ㅋㅋㅋ 감사합니다 ❤️‍🔥

[@Wigglylove]

Agreed! English + Korean is amazing and I feel I get a lot more out of the podcasts.

[@itsmee6424]

되게 유익하고 재밌습니다.. 정말 감사합니다.. 수고 많으셨습니다!

[@ran4022]

이제까지 본 공부법 영상 안에서 체일 최고한 영상이였습니다. 디디님, 존님 정말 감사합니다.

[@didikoreanpodcast]

🥹🤍 감사합니다.ᐟ

[@okakaaaa]

디디님 팟캐스트는 자연스러운게 최고 장점이라고 생각했는데 저만 그렇게 생각한게 아니었어요👍

[@maedeh_123]

너무 재미있게 들었어요🤗❤

[@famminak852]

Thank you KZbin for recommending this video. I have been learning Korean for 3 years and John ssaem was 100% correct. I still feel like I haven’t made much progress and now I know why.i will change to immersion method from now on. Thank you so much for the translation!!

[@theliarmaiq]

헐 영상을 처음 보기 시작했을때 이렇게 재밌고 이 정도 도와줄 수 있는 영상이었는지 알 줄 몰랐어요! 이런 흥미로운 내용을 늘 주셔서 감사합니다~

[@lakpasherpa6012]

아주 중요한 것을 추천해 주셔서 너무 너무 감사합니다

[@user-uf5wc1uc8i]

新作きたぁぁぁぁあ！！！ 待ってました！！！

[@anzuun]

존쌤 정말 한국어 잘하셔서 놀랐는데 저는 이 이야기를 듣고 공부가 됐어요..!! 재밌는 영상을 만들어주셔서 항상 감사합니다^^ ありがとうございます😊

[@sujin_yuna]

디디님 정말 감사합니당 디디님 덕분에 듣기 실력이 높아졌습니다 🥰😍

[@Yubaraj830]

네팔에서 보고있습니다 디디님 팟캐스트 정말 좋아합니다 사랑합니다😌🤎🍀

[@emred1644]

This was super helpful, John answered all the questions i had it in my mind for weeks and you are a amazing listener Didi. Thank you both. (Thanks for Tr subtitles too.)

[@didikoreanpodcast]

Thank you so much for listening 🥹💪

[@codedfinance1149]

This was great. Loved it. Thank you!

[@elb3714]

Thank you so much. This was really helpful!

[@famminak852]

Thank you KZbin for recommending me this gem ❤ it’s helping me a lot in learning Korean! Subscribed 😍😍😍

[@itsmeclg]

Very insightful! Thanks Didi!!

[@pankakiss9499]

영상 너무 재미있게 봤어요! John님의 의견에 저도 동의합니다. 자연스럽고 충분히 긴 한국어 컨텐츠를 찾기 어려워요. 디디님 채널을 우연히 발견한 건데 제가 찾던 것이 딱 이런 것이라 너무 반가웠어요. 문법•어휘를 계속 외워가는 것보다 훨씬 유용하고 효율적인 듯싶어요. 앞으로 영상을 많이 볼게요

[@Emily.study.coffee]

This video is GOLD. I agree with his language learning methods so much, his information is amazing and you asked perfect questions. Thanks for this video and thanks John!

[@paulwalther5237]

I think the big problem with dictionaries, translator apps, English subtitles etc., is that your brain knows that if it's lazy and doesn't struggle to understand then you'll just bring out the help. But most of us can't just figure out new words and new grammar only from context (except when we get better at the language). We need that help usually. Or if we've seen it somewhere else already (like on a flash card). So it's probably better to mix it up and put away the helping tools sometimes but then use them later sometimes too.

[@luanapereira7722]

와 완전네. 디디님의 콘텐츠를 최고야👍🏼👍🏼. 습득 주제 듣고 있는 진짜 필요해요. 존쌤이 채널 몰르게지만 지금 바로 구독자를 가야 되요. 너무 너무 감사합니다~~~. 디디 존쌤 열심히 꼭 공부할게요❤

[@didikoreanpodcast]

화이팅❤️❤️

[@fatahhidayat5474]

Hi john.your korean is so great Before i work in usa Right now i've been in korea Nice to know you

[@user-rh2ef3he1y]

So interesting topic!!!! I got many ideas and a lot of motivation.

[@kgdskb]

디디 언니와 존 선생님 정말 감사합니다! 재미있을 것 같습니다! 꼭 봐야겠습니다! ❤

[@aiyakim290]

너무 잘한 선생님 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 감사합니다

[@didikoreanpodcast]

고마워요 😊

[@carlosgermanvillanohuachoh4912]

thank you i love them

[@malcomx951]

디디의 공동 영상 항상 흥미롭고 재밌어 ❤ 고마워 디디 😊

[@didikoreanpodcast]

파레스 고마워~~~~!👍

[@lakpasherpa9987]

thise types of video helps to learn korean language❤

[@user-xi5zg3px8e]

thank you so much❤❤

[@zengfai8787]

Wow, he speaks Korean very fuluentry, amazing.

[@AyPak26265]

Спасибо, спасибо, спасибо🙏

[@Baagiijagaa65]

제가 몽골에서 듣고 있어요. 들어 봤는데 잘 알고 있었어 너무 좋아요

[@abishpangdhaklimbu8236]

Next part please ❤ mam

[@jamest3843]

Thank you so much for doing subtitles for both languages! Must have taken you many hours 😭 i really enjoyed this episode. Subscribed 😁

[@didikoreanpodcast]

💗Thank you💗

[@Kiazuko]

finally got a time frame i was feeling dumb i couldn't make a sentence in my head yet after studying so hard but its only been 3 months fr

[@juandavidsolano6591]

ㅇㅈ! 정말 대단해!

[@Chrislw35]

Didi, You did a great job. You asked very good questions. Questions that helped us learners know how to prioritize our studies. Thank you Didi

[@didikoreanpodcast]

Thank you so much :) I'm so glad to hear that!!

[@Chrislw35]

@@didikoreanpodcast You are welcome!

[@cherinenca2856]

The thing I like about Didi님 is that she is young and just reminds me of my high school years when I used to talk a lot with my bf, when I watch your videos I feel like I'm having a real conversation with you, you are so natural and the subjects you chose are so diverse that I can't get enough of it~~~ thank you for your free style of talking, and thank you always for this podcast, for 7years living in Korea, I couldn't find anything satisfying but your podcast did, I'm in love with it. Keep it up dear! MUCH LOVE

[@didikoreanpodcast]

This comment made my day! Thank you so much for listening to my podcast, and saying kind words to me 😊 I'll do my best to show you the diverse side of my country:) Thank you!!

[@didikoreanpodcast]

❤️❤️

[@user-zg7xw8kx6t]

청말 재미있어요❤❤❤❤

[@inuchoi1492]

안녕하세요. 부업으로 한국어 가르치다가 유튜브 팟캐스트 채널 조사를 하다가 디디 님의 채널을 알게 됐습니다. 존 님이 주신 의견에 정말 동의합니다. 자연스럽게 말하고 싶은 주제를 말하니 저도 계속 듣게 됩니다. 지난 두달간 디디님 채널 성장 속도도 보고 잇엇는데요. 두달 전에 비해 일일 구독자 증가 속도가 30프로 증가한 것으로 알아요. 올해에는 10만명 할 수도 있겠어요. 저도 채널을 본격적으로 운영할 계획인데 제가 만 명이 넘으면 디디 님께 게스트 신청 하겠습니다. 재미있게 사세요!

[@didikoreanpodcast]

응원해요 💪 감사합니다✨✨✨✨

[@Rosanthalang-cz7nu]

Love from Nepal 🇳🇵❤️🙏🏻

[@sanjibkarn]

와.너무 좋았고 대단했네요,두 분 다❤ 또 감사합니다.

[@didikoreanpodcast]

며칠동안 제 영상을 많이 봐주셔서 감사합니다 ☺️✨

[@sanjibkarn]

​@@didikoreanpodcast아니에요. 누나가 아니라 제가 이렇게 열심히 재미있는 팟캐스트를 만들어 주셔서 감사하죠.

[@ruichen5862]

Thank you for learning Cantonese!

[@Lovable91]

디디님과 John님 신기한 추천해줘서 고마워요.

[@zachricemusic]

I like the way he speaks Korean extremely clearly, although I may be biased because I'm also American and I'm a native English speaker. 😅 그가 한국어를 굉장히 명확하게 말하는 방식이 매우 마음에 듭니다. 하지만 나 또한 미국인이며 영어 원어민이기 때문에 편견이 있을 수도 있어요. 😅

[@user-xf1cn1ro2g]

👍👍👍

[@AIArtistNoahC]

한국말 넘 잘하시내 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@MohdKaif-bl3xr]

진짜 잘했지,천천히 말하기가 시작하면 장래에 꼭 잘게 말할 수 있다.

[@jarellemason7291]

His Korean is great

[@ariefarsalanarief9239]

*PERCAKPAN YANG MENARIKK...MOHON BISA BERTEMAN❤❤😊😊🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨🤝🤝*

[@stevenramos3924]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Awithv]

언니 im waiting for ur ‘my day’ vlog

[@didikoreanpodcast]

My daily life vlog?? 😆

[@user-ew7vs2ur6d]

❤❤❤👍👍👍

[@user-ff9xu3uk6c]

안녕하세요 저는 베트남에서 왔어요

[@antonioanizio2737]

신은 훌륭하고 그를 돕는 것은 오직 당신의 믿음뿐입니다 sin-eun hullyunghago geuleul dobneun geos-eun ojig dangsin-ui mid-eumppun-ibnida

[@RanjitYadav-xx1gz]

❤❤

[@thedigilakans12]

존 엄청 한국어 잘하네! 내 모국어 카팡팡안어서 이게 나함테 어려운것 같은데, 일본어 내 모국어와 더 비슷해서 일본어 할 줄 알면 한국어 나한테 아마도 쉬어

[@muu8282]

このチャンネルのファンになりました🦋

[@didikoreanpodcast]

よろしくお願いします！🧚‍♀

[@muu8282]

@@didikoreanpodcast 勉強して7/25で3年になりますが、話すことが全然出来なくて＋TOPIKⅡの試験を4/14に受けますが…4級受かるかなー？どうか？ってところです。そんなときにこの動画に出会いました♡ あらためて、何のために韓国語勉強始めたのか？字幕なしで推しの言葉やドラマを見たいというのと、旅行した時に不自由なく話したいことでした。テスト問題解くことに必死になってて、楽しくなかったので、思い出せてよかったです。 (Discordに加入しましたが、使い方分からずです)

[@didikoreanpodcast]

私も本当に同じような理由で日本語を学んでいます 😊TOPIK、4級に受かることを願っています！ ディスコードは使用が少し難しいですね、すみません🥹、使いやすい方法を後日アップします！

[@paulwalther5237]

Japanese seems much easier to me than Korean too. The grammar and pronunciation are like Korean but simpler. Korean is like Japanese made more difficult. EXCEPT for the writing system. Hangul is so much simpler than kanji and hiragana and katatkana etc. It's not as easy as the roman alphabet for me because I didn't grow up with it but man it's easier than the Japanese writing system. But from my experience Koreans learn Japanese better than Japanese people learn Korean. That should tell you that Korean is harder.

[@paulwalther5237]

He's a good speaker. He speaks with confidence. But by no means his his Korean better than any native speakers 😂😂

[@user-pp1sy5mt2y]

二人の動画よく見ってます、グラボ最高

[@didikoreanpodcast]

😊😊😊😊

[@animehi5227]

이 여성은 예쁠 뿐만 아니라 언어 능력은 아주 좋다.❤

[@user-ff9xu3uk6c]

와, 한국어 잘하시네요

[@user-vx6pd3ry4q]

이 방법 일상생활에 엄청 도움이 되겠다..근데 토픽시험 보려고 하면은 어쩔수 없이 그냥 공부도 해야될 것 같아요

[@didikoreanpodcast]

맞아 시험은 어쩔 수 없지요 🥹 화이팅이에요 🤍

[@user-vx6pd3ry4q]

@@didikoreanpodcast감사해요... 3일 남았어요 ㅋㅋ🤪

[@paulwalther5237]

I can't study a language using material that is so unnatural it feels like I'm reading a textbook if not a reference book either. I'd rather tackle some content that is WAY over my head and I have no chance of understanding than to suffer through dry material. I like this channel because the content is personal enough that even if it's a script meant for beginners it still has a personal touch included and I think even native Korean speakers would enjoy it to some extent (although it probably would not be their first choice of things to watch). Interviews like this one are always fun no matter how good I get at the language - this is good content. Miku Sensei is a Japanese teacher KZbinr and she's a really nice person but I can't watch any of her grammar videos no matter how informative they are. But she also does videos like this one. And she does a weekly podcast all in Japanese about anything she finds interesting about Japan (or anything really but usually Japan) and that content is fantastic. But no matter how much I like her channel I will never watch any grammar videos.

[@didikoreanpodcast]

Oh! I also love Mike Sensei's channel. And actually, I refer to some Japanese podcasters a lot when I make my own podcast. I only studied grammar when I learned English, and I haven't studied Japanese grammar. I wonder how my language ability will appear haha. Thanks for listening to my podcast. I hope you can continue to enjoy your language journey!

[@user-kb8rr5uf7f]

재밌어요! 👍 혹시 일리야 벨랴코프 "대한러시안" 도 누군지 아신가요?

[@didikoreanpodcast]

알아요! 에 출연하셨던 ㅎㅎㅎ

[@palvonbekatabayev8968]

The talk was very funny so i did not know that the length was an hour😅

[@michaelwoodbury1788]

Just listen to the tonal movement of John's speech. It goes high and low in a very natural manner; very comparable to Didi's tones. If I had to guess, most Americans sound like robots when speaking Korean. They certainly do when speaking Norwegian which is also a tonal language. The similarities of tone are probably what drew me to learning Korean.

[@didikoreanpodcast]

Interesting insight! Conversely, when Koreans learn English, many instructors advise them to avoid the monotony often found in Korean speech patterns, encouraging them to use varied intonations instead of a flat tone　🤣

[@knmid]

People with low level tend to talk like robots regardless of language because it's still difficult to express themselves, let alone sound natural at the same time. Some people have really good accent even at beginner level, but I don't think it's common when confronted with having to use the language in real life. It's a common party trick by "KZbin polyglots". There is one who makes videos about learning Korean and they normally sounded really amazing in Korean, truly great accent... until one day they released a video that was an unscripted conversation on a topic that wasn't about language learning. Wow did they sound different. It was easy to tell they weren't actually advanced in the language, unlike what was always showed in their normal scripted videos with perfect accent. There's someone else I discovered like this lol they sound great in their own Korean speaking videos, but someone released an unedited interview with them and they were like "ummm...하하...ummm........헤헤" the whole time and they could barely express themselves, let alone have a natural accent. The guy in this video is on another level, he's actually fluent and can express his ideas clearly and efficiently...very impressive!

[@fauyinura7349]

Calon TKI Korea hadir

[@animehi5227]

이 영상을 들어보니 잘 이해하는데 사실로 그렇지 않아. 면접에서 한국인과 이야기하면 알아들 때가 많습니다.😢

[@Tamangpriston7799]

아넹하세요, 저는 네빨 에서 옸가어 요

[@midnightcereals]

이번 에피소드는 왜 spotify에서 아직 안 나오나요.. ㅠㅠ 출퇴근하면서 듣고 싶은데

[@didikoreanpodcast]

미안해요~! 10분 안에 올릴게요 ㅋㅋㅋ 😃

[@midnightcereals]

@@didikoreanpodcast 우왕 감사합니다^^ 주말 잘 보내세요~~

[@setipenchocho]

아직도 한국어를 배우려고 노력하고 있어요

[@Ddddbhatt1998]

From Nepal

[@xaviero6557]

안녕하세요 선생님🇹🇱🇰🇷

[@heartlove5795]

from nepal

[@shivasubedi9643]

Hi didi I am from nepal

[@irfannurrahman7945]

안녕하세요, 제가 인도네시아 에서 왔습니다 🇮🇩

[@rondythurlow7200]

😇😇❤️❤️

[@Sam_Bohorquez]

Where can I find John channel?

[@didikoreanpodcast]

In here! 👉 youtube.com/@john0518?si=GQuXDL-sbscODmpY

[@ariefarsalanarief9239]

*mohon berteman🤝🤝🇰🇷🇲🇨🇰🇷🇲🇨🇰🇷🇲🇨🇰🇷🇲🇨*

[@sansebastiansj]

Whenever I try to speak Korean people always think I'm drunk 🤣 I'm also thinking about speaking Korean to whoever starts an argument with me. I will babble out some Korean sentence like 너무 웃겨서 배가 아파. They'll get confused and walk away. Do you think it will work? 😂

[@didikoreanpodcast]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ너무 웃겨서 배가 아파 is a quite good sentence so it might work 🤣

[@sansebastiansj]

@@didikoreanpodcast Guess what. It totally works. I've tried this on my sister. She wanted to borrow some money so I kept repeating "네 얼굴이 달처럼 반짝이네". She got so annyoed, oh boy. But left me alone. I have saved me some money. 😂

[@mav_in_space]

@@sansebastiansj haha Oh no. Your poor sister.

[@paulwalther5237]

I think anyone that learns with the immersion method will find that when they go to learn another foreign language by God this method is SLOW. And the "what would you do different" question isn't all that important because in the end it just comes down to spending huge amounts of time with the language. You might try switching up how you use Anki or review vocabulary (or not) or what material you start with but these are small details. You have to put in huge amounts of time to get results and aside from trying to make it as fun as possible there's not much else you can do.

[@didikoreanpodcast]

Hello, I watched some of your videos and it seems like you are a language learners.ᐟ Please understand that this is an AI translation: While I haven't utilized Anki yet, I'm definitely open to exploring diverse tools to enhance my language proficiency. I also believe that there's no singular method to language acquisition; different approaches resonate with different individuals. Moreover, I concur that regardless of the tools employed, consistent effort is paramount. This dedication will undeniably foster the growth of your language abilities 🔥

[@paulwalther5237]

@@didikoreanpodcast My videos are mostly blogs of my learning 😆. Thanks for watching though.

[@user-vx6pd3ry4q]

ㅋㅋㅋ 중국집 이야기 너무 웃겨 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@isthatso9820]

안녕하세요

[@SJLAMA]

아녕하세요,저는 네팔 사람 입니다 ❤❤

[@ThisYaAungYaAung]

남자가 너무 일아기를 해서?어떡해😂😂

[@joshuabaehr44]

제가 굼궁한데 한국분이 한국어 "잘 하시네요"라고 하면 사실은 못한다고 의미에요? ㅎㅎㅎ

[@didikoreanpodcast]

아하ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 사람마다 다를 수 있겠지만 “와.... 한국어 진짜 잘해요...😳” / “한국어 왜 이렇게 잘해요...?😨” 이건 진짜! “와! 한국어 잘하시네요!😀” 이건 ‘우와! 한국어를 알고있네? 신기하다’ 이런 느낌인 거 같아요 ㅎㅎ

[@user-pd4xc2ny6m]

この方こんなに話せるのすごいけど、いくらなんでも1回ごとの話が長過ぎてしんどい、、相手のこと考えて無さすぎる。 途中で我慢できなくて、初めて途中で聞くのやめちゃった😢

[@didikoreanpodcast]

フィードバックをいただきありがとうございます！ 私の進行能力にも不足が多かったと思います。これからもっと発展するコラボ映像を作れるように努力していきます！

[@user-pd4xc2ny6m]

@@didikoreanpodcast批判するようなことを言ってすみません。私の韓国語が足りないのでそうなのかもしれません、、でもいつも楽しくてとても好きなチャンネルです！ありがとうございます🥺

[@scriptshamanji5400]

진짜 즐거웠어요 Great job Didi!

[@didikoreanpodcast]

다행이다!! 고마워요 😊👍

[@antonioanizio2737]

대부분의 사람들은 하나님께 믿음과 힘을 달라고 감사하고 구하는 것을 잊었습니다. 하나님께서 당신에게 필요한 도움을 주시기를 바랍니다 daebubun-ui salamdeul-eun hananimkke mid-eumgwa him-eul dallago gamsahago guhaneun geos-eul ij-eossseubnida. hananimkkeseo dangsin-ege pil-yohan doum-eul jusigileul balabnida